Board 8 > Worst DCEU movie?

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Of what Ive seen WW84 is by far the worst

This is so hard and I haven't even seen Harley Quinn and Flash.

Shazam 2 is overhated though. I feel like everyone just dogpiled and joined a meme that it was actually bad.

i cant imagine anything being much worse than ww84

WW84 easily

Pedro Pascal's Max Lord could've been great in a different movie too

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Shazam 2 is overhated though. I feel like everyone just dogpiled and joined a meme that it was actually bad.

It's pretty bad

I will always say this - Wonder Woman 1984 is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. Easily bottom 5. And that's taking into account some true crap I've seen over the years.

BvS is a fascinatingly bad movie that you could argue set the stage for almost everything that went wrong with the DCEU after it. But in no way is it worse than WW84.

I still maintain that it's amazing that Wonder Woman 84 is so bad that nobody even talks about Wonder Woman 2-83 as a result.

I watch D-horror for fun and WW84 is by far in the bottom five movies I've ever seen

I haven't watched the DCEU because all I ever hear about it is how bad it is.

Remember when Wonder Woman convinced the entire world somehow to give back every single one of their wishes using only a poorly cobbled together speech?

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Remember when Wonder Woman convinced the entire world somehow to give back every single one of their wishes using only a poorly cobbled together speech?

It's the worst part and that's saying a lot!

WW84 is somehow actually that bad and like others in here, I'm saying this as a horror fan who's seen some absolute dreck in my day.

WW84 practically makes Birdemic look like Jurassic Park

Worth noting that this board convinced me to not see WW84. Thank you guys from sparing me the trouble.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Remember when Wonder Woman convinced the entire world somehow to give back every single one of their wishes using only a poorly cobbled together speech?

Especially because of this. If for some reason I was actually listening to her speech, I ain't just giving my happiness back, thanks.

WW84 is an embarrassment to cinema. I can't believe it's not sweeping this. I can only assume those votes for Suicide Squad just haven't seen WW84.

never saw WW84 but I did see Suicide Squad, which is near the top of my list for worst movie I've ever seen

And there it is lol

welp I should really read to the end of the topic, huh

I can't not vote for BvS, because that movie doing what it did was a historic crime. WW84 was just a fairly bad movie, but BvS infuriated me.

BvS was absolute garbage and not even remotely fun to watch.

At least Suicide Squad was stupidly amusing.

Regarding Suicide Squad, I don't blame anyone for thinking that one is worse.

It's a truly terrible movie too. Nothing fun or interesting or cool or innovative in it. Just absolutely boring with some rather poor character designs. It attempts to make emotional beats with the story that fall flat because they don't actually take any time to let these people grow and interact properly.

The most offensive part is that the only funny part of the movie is when Flagg at the end says if anyone wants to leave, they can. And then without even waiting a second Captain Boomerang is out of there. But then he just comes back for no reason in the slow motion walk to the final boss.

I think WW84 is worse because it tries to be this profound and deep movie and continually falls on its face at every attempt, and it treats the viewer like they're stupid. Suicide Squad at least doesn't have aspirations aside from being a dumb, fun action movie. And while it failed there, I can't hate it as much for that.

Batman vs. Superman just made me legitimately sad watching it though. Just a morose feeling watching it, devoid of joy. Which lines up with Zack Snyder's grey and brown vision.

Just an impossibly bad decision to let this guy make everything so gritty and glum.

With Suicide Squad I at least remember enjoying the Deadshot firing range scene

This topic continues to make me feel good about skipping the entire DCEU.

You have saved me from suffering ~

I've still got a lot of time for Man of Steel, though it has absolutely no chill in the second half and becomes a bit of a slog

Still pretty good though

Suicide Squad had the achievement of introducing Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn, who is now almost the face of the DCEU, as well as Viola Davis' Amanda Waller

WW84 did the exact opposite and destroyed the character of DCEU Wonder Woman herself by making her bland and unable to get over her boyfriend from 70 years earlier

Suicide Squad at least had that fucking dope Enchantress transformation. I still think about it sometimes.

Suicide Squad comes close, but at least it felt quick and painless when I saw it in theaters.

Wonder Woman 1984 felt like it dragged on for hours though.

What? No Birds of Prey?? It's so bad it doesn't have competition.

BvS absolutely ENRAGED me when I saw the entire plot of the film during the trailer that my theatre played immediately preceding the movie.

I didn't hate WW84 as much as many but I'm not defending it. Thoroughly mediocre.

Birds of Prey

BvS needs to go die in a dumpster fire. Absolutely nothing redeemable about the film. WW84 is a bad, bad movie that I am glad I didn't pay for, but I was able to laugh at how terrible it was. SS I knew was terrible from the start so I went into it knowing what I getting. BvS made me actually angry that such a great storyline was butchered.

I saw WW84 and Birds of Prey on the same plane ride and WW84 is easily worse.

I'm more disappointed in Birds or Prey, but at least I got to see Ewan McGregor in it.

Birds of Prey was fine. There's a reason it's not on the list.

(Spoilers for WW84 but who cares at this point)

It's been said how terrible the ending of WW84 is, which it is, but this also bothers me a lot.

When Diana makes her wish to get Steve back, he doesn't just poof into existence, he takes over the body of an innocent man. Just some guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time apparently, that only Diana can tell is Steve and not this other dude. And they proceed to take this guy's body across the globe, getting him nearly killed several times, and I can't remember anyone at any point caring about putting an innocent life in danger. I guess because Diana was okay with effectively killing someone to get Steve back? And then at the end when everyone has given up their wish the guy gets his body back and he just stumbles out of an alley or something I don't remember exactly, and she gives him some smile like 'Haha bro you just had some crazy adventure!'

That's insane.

That movie has like a 100 plot holes it's crazy. They just didn't give a fuck about anything. At least Pedro Pascal was entertaining, legitimately the only thing it had going for it.

I haven't seen WW84 and this topic is making me want to.

Anyway, my answer is BvS.

It has some actual good stuff but it is aggressively boring for at least 70% of its (very long) runtime.

SS is incredibly bad from start to end but it has a higher fun vs boring ratio. I take bad fun over no fun.

J/L and Birds of Prey are bad movies but they are not at the same level of bad as the ones above.

Man of Steel is mediocre.

Aquaman 1, WW 1, Shazam 1 and SS 2 are actual good movies.

Haven't seen the rest.

plasmabeam posted...

BvS was absolute garbage and not even remotely fun to watch.

At least Suicide Squad was stupidly amusing.

Basically this

bryans7 posted...

(Spoilers for WW84 but who cares at this point)

It's been said how terrible the ending of WW84 is, which it is, but this also bothers me a lot.

When Diana makes her wish to get Steve back, he doesn't just poof into existence, he takes over the body of an innocent man. Just some guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time apparently, that only Diana can tell is Steve and not this other dude. And they proceed to take this guy's body across the globe, getting him nearly killed several times, and I can't remember anyone at any point caring about putting an innocent life in danger. I guess because Diana was okay with effectively killing someone to get Steve back? And then at the end when everyone has given up their wish the guy gets his body back and he just stumbles out of an alley or something I don't remember exactly, and she gives him some smile like 'Haha bro you just had some crazy adventure!'

That's insane.

This, among other things, is what makes me think the script got torn apart and put back together many, many times. Because so much of the movie has ideas that end up not making much sense in totality, and has very strange conclusions and story beats put into them.

It's just a very confusing movie.

bryans7 posted...

(Spoilers for WW84 but who cares at this point)

It's been said how terrible the ending of WW84 is, which it is, but this also bothers me a lot.

When Diana makes her wish to get Steve back, he doesn't just poof into existence, he takes over the body of an innocent man. Just some guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time apparently, that only Diana can tell is Steve and not this other dude. And they proceed to take this guy's body across the globe, getting him nearly killed several times, and I can't remember anyone at any point caring about putting an innocent life in danger. I guess because Diana was okay with effectively killing someone to get Steve back? And then at the end when everyone has given up their wish the guy gets his body back and he just stumbles out of an alley or something I don't remember exactly, and she gives him some smile like 'Haha bro you just had some crazy adventure!'

That's insane.

Tbf, in the first one WW doesn't give a crap about killing soul manipulated people.

bryans7 posted...

(Spoilers for WW84 but who cares at this point)

It's been said how terrible the ending of WW84 is, which it is, but this also bothers me a lot.

When Diana makes her wish to get Steve back, he doesn't just poof into existence, he takes over the body of an innocent man. Just some guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time apparently, that only Diana can tell is Steve and not this other dude. And they proceed to take this guy's body across the globe, getting him nearly killed several times, and I can't remember anyone at any point caring about putting an innocent life in danger. I guess because Diana was okay with effectively killing someone to get Steve back? And then at the end when everyone has given up their wish the guy gets his body back and he just stumbles out of an alley or something I don't remember exactly, and she gives him some smile like 'Haha bro you just had some crazy adventure!'

That's insane.

Not defending this aspect but TBH I didn't really have a problem with it other than Steve somehow picking up on everything relating to his reincarnation BUT this. Plus IIRC the guy who Steve possessed was hitting on Diana right before Steve took him over. Having said that, it was weird no doubt. My main problem with the movie was there were so many scenes where I wondered what the point was. Just trying too hard to be inspirational, as if Jenkins needed Zack Snyder of all people to cover for her worst excesses the first time around (and even that movie was only decent IMO, and I didn't feel like I really missed anything by putting off watching it fully until last year).

Sorry for the bump, but TBH I do feel like a lot of the time people point out "unfortunate" implications they're overblown to various degrees or else just generally don't bother me. This is a big reason I tend to fall into alt-right traps, although now I'm realizing they're at least as bad if not worse in the "getting easily offended" department. In the case of the whole Steve possessing that guy thing, like, I dunno, I feel like if I'm watching a comic book movie I can accept a lot of fantastical stuff. Still found the movie overall mediocre though - would put it on par with Batman Forever personally if we're assessing DC Comics adaptations. Though Forever is more forgettable on the whole.

Super heroes should not be ok with innocent civilians getting possessed and then put into danger multiple times by their own hands. Kinda common sense in super hero media.

Batman Forever is NOT forgettable for those of us who actually saw it when it came out. It's a bad movie but I could storyboard that film from memory.

I can quote many things from Forever even if it was a bad movie so it certainly wasn't forgettable.

Batman Forever is definitely not forgettable as I'll never forget turning it off halfway through the first time I watched it.

Yeah a pretty silly take.

I watched both it and Batman & Robin as a kid and loved them both.

I did not watch them again to check if they hold up to a non-kid audience and I'm happy living without that insight.

Yeah I saw both the Schumacher Batman movies for the first time in 2021 to honor his passing and because the movies' all-star casts had me curious (especially Arnie and Uma in & Robin). Forever came off to me as like the most generic superhero movie ever made, although I didn't mind either movie's campiness at all and mostly felt the scripts were super sloppy. Batman & Robin borders on being hilariously bad, and the only reason I say borders is because the plot is incredibly dull. There is still so much wrong with the movie that even online reviews don't do it justice - although it's probably not really one of the WORST movies ever made, even discounting MST3K fare. One of the worst excuses for a tentpole movie though, yes.