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argonautweakend
09/11/23 12:08:59 PM
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As somebody who refuses a plastic bag because i either have my own or its a few items i can carry, this is good. plastic bags don't degrade very quickly and i assume most are used once and then thrown out and this prevents landfills from being bombarded with plastic bags and them littering our fields and waterways.

But man, the people who NEED them for their cat/dog shit are going to be so insufferable. There are no other solutions to clean their pets mess outside of free plastic bags....

This is going to be a rough few months in the retail world in my neck of the woods only because some people just won't be able to handle it.

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Nichtcrawler-X
09/11/23 12:10:56 PM
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Paper bags and other kinds of biodegradable bags exist to deal with pet messes.

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Far-Queue
09/11/23 12:12:01 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
But man, the people who NEED them for their cat/dog shit are going to be so insufferable. There are no other solutions to clean their pets mess outside of free plastic bags....
Uh, there are products available for this express purpose. Anyone who can't afford to buy a roll of disposal bags shouldn't be allowed to own pets tbh. How can they afford to feed a pet if they can't afford to clean up after it?

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argonautweakend
09/11/23 12:16:04 PM
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That was my point. The cat/dog people are going to be so insufferable acting like there is no way they can deal with pet messes except for a cheap plastic bag they get for free that is terrible for the environment.
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Nichtcrawler-X
09/11/23 12:20:12 PM
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They actually want to shovel up a shopping plastic bag up fully with their pets excrement?

The baggies intended for it are small for a reason...

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argonautweakend
09/11/23 12:26:01 PM
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No. These people save their plastic bags from grocery store trips and reuse them for their dogs poop or cats litter. They don't fill them up they use them once and throw them out.

All this means is pet owners are going to have to purchase actual bags for their pets waste instead of having readily available free plastic bags.

I'd imagine using a plastic bag twice, once to carry groceries and once for pet litter, still isn't a super efficient use of them, even if it is better than just being used for grocery.

Plastics can take anywhere from 20-600+ years to degrade, which I feel like a lot of people don't realize or care because that's the main reason i don't like 'em.
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JOExHIGASHI
09/11/23 12:26:29 PM
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Produce section has free plastic bags

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Revelation34
09/11/23 12:27:30 PM
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Waste disposal bags are super small compared to a grocery store bag. They're also made out of plastic.

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MagicalPrincess
09/11/23 12:29:48 PM
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I reuse plastic bags for trash. It's really messed up to ban it.

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argonautweakend
09/11/23 12:33:57 PM
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I don't think it is. The people who reuse their plastic bags will just have to find a different solution.

Working in retail I've seen people get a plastic bag they presumably didn't want for their one item or whatever and just throw the bag away in the garbage as soon as they leave the store. I'd imagine for everybody who reuses them one time for garbage or pet litter doesn't eclipse the people who use them once total and throw them out.
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Nichtcrawler-X
09/11/23 12:43:15 PM
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Wait, for clarity, banning plastic bags, or banning free plastic bags?

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argonautweakend
09/11/23 12:45:18 PM
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I don't know for certain. I imagine it is that stores and businesses will be banned from using them for customers purchases for free. you might need to pay 5 or 10c per bag, or they will be banned altogether and you must use paper or anything else.

I don't know how the finer details work, but no more packing your items in plastic for free by default at least.
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Nichtcrawler-X
09/11/23 12:47:00 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
but no more packing your items in plastic for free by default at least.

So they are catching up with about a decade ago?

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rjsilverthorn
09/11/23 2:13:30 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
. The cat/dog Karens are going to be so insufferable
FTFY. The fact that other products exist specifically for this purpose means not all cat and dog owners are relying on grocery bags.

One of the chains near us did this a year or two ago. No plastic bags at all and you have to pay 5 cents for a paper bag. We've been using reusable bags for a while now, so no real issue for us, but I haven't really heard anyone complaining while I've been there either.
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Shrek
09/11/23 2:58:43 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
But man, the people who NEED them for their cat/dog shit are going to be so insufferable. There are no other solutions to clean their pets mess outside of free plastic bags....
why would i spend like $50 on a box of cat shit bags when i could just use a free Walmart bag though

i fear for when they get banned around here so i have been, quite literally, hoarding them

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NeoSioType
09/11/23 2:59:17 PM
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I don't think this paper bag thing is going to work if we all do it.

I still have nightmares about the TP and paper towels and when I wake up I realize it's all real. Been using the cheap and thin stuff since the apocalypse.
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grimhilde00
09/11/23 4:02:50 PM
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this is a very common ban, it's not that big of a deal

I've used reusable grocery bags for over a decade and biodegradable pet waste bags exist and are common

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wwinterj25
09/11/23 5:16:33 PM
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Free bags? I miss those days.

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GranTurismo
09/11/23 5:29:27 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
As somebody who refuses a plastic bag because i either have my own or its a few items i can carry, this is good. plastic bags don't degrade very quickly and i assume most are used once and then thrown out and this prevents landfills from being bombarded with plastic bags and them littering our fields and waterways.

But man, the people who NEED them for their cat/dog shit are going to be so insufferable. There are no other solutions to clean their pets mess outside of free plastic bags....

This is going to be a rough few months in the retail world in my neck of the woods only because some people just won't be able to handle it.
What city? NYC?
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adjl
09/11/23 5:53:46 PM
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Shrek posted...
why would i spend like $50 on a box of cat s*** bags when i could just use a free Walmart bag though

I spend $2 for a box of 100 fold top sandwich baggies. Lasts 2-3 months with two cats. Sure, it's more expensive than "free," but not by enough to genuinely worry about.

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LinkPizza
09/11/23 6:35:18 PM
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Im glad my city still has plastic bags. That said, I reused mine quite often. I dont ever really use paper. They tear too easily for me. Plus, even the slightest tear can cause massive problems (at least when Ive used it) They also wouldnt really work well with what I use the plastic ones for

I do have some of the reusable bags from the store. But I almost never have them. They are usually in the house wherever I put them after removing groceries. And I sometimes forget them when heading to the store. Plus, many trips are spontaneous, or when Im on the way from somewhere else

Shrek posted...
but you don't seem to realize that whatever they use as a replacement is still going to be a plastic bag.

This is probably true. The ones who were using the free plastic bags are probably just going to buy the cheap plastic poop bags. I guess they are smaller, but still plastic

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jsb0714
09/11/23 7:59:13 PM
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Lol at the thought banning plastic bags solves anything.
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adjl
09/11/23 8:26:37 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
I do have some of the reusable bags from the store. But I almost never have them. They are usually in the house wherever I put them after removing groceries. And I sometimes forget them when heading to the store. Plus, many trips are spontaneous, or when Im on the way from somewhere else

That's really easy to fix. Keep them in your car when you aren't using them. After you empty them, hang them on your doorknob so you remember to bring them out to the car the next time you head out. If you're driving to most places where you might need a bag anyway, there's really no reason not to have a reusable one with you.

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LinkPizza
09/11/23 8:32:57 PM
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adjl posted...
That's really easy to fix. Keep them in your car when you aren't using them. After you empty them, hang them on your doorknob so you remember to bring them out to the car the next time you head out. If you're driving to most places where you might need a bag anyway, there's really no reason not to have a reusable one with you.

Id definitely lose them on the doorknob. I have a cat and a dog who both need to constantly mess with everything. They are the reason I cant find some of them now. Or why some are torn. Though, tbf, I even forget them in the car when I do go to the store. Either way, its not a big deal since my store still offers plastic bags, and I like having them

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faramir77
09/11/23 8:47:42 PM
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Plastic bags were banned in my area about 2 years ago. I used to use them for household garbage bags. Now I have to buy plastic bags to use as garbage bags.

I get that it's a overall good thing to ban them, but it's felt more like a punishment for those of us that used them responsibly, and has no effect on people that used to just throw them away in bulk or litter them.

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LinkPizza
09/11/23 8:50:34 PM
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faramir77 posted...
Plastic bags were banned in my area about 2 years ago. I used to use them for household garbage bags. Now I have to buy plastic bags to use as garbage bags.

I get that it's a overall good thing to ban them, but it's felt more like a punishment for those of us that used them responsibly, and has no effect on people that used to just throw them away in bulk or litter them.

Ive done that myself. Where they were perfect for the little trash cans. In the end, whether I use the bags from the store or buy them, they still end up being a plastic bag, I guess

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adjl
09/11/23 9:24:43 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Id definitely lose them on the doorknob. I have a cat and a dog who both need to constantly mess with everything. They are the reason I cant find some of them now. Or why some are torn.

I'm sure you could figure out something that would leave them in an accessible, easily-remembered location that also kept them safe from meddling quadrupeds. It's not that hard to develop the habit of keeping bags around. You just have to actually put a modicum of effort into doing so instead of just sticking to the status quo of making unnecessary garbage.

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ReturnOfFa
09/11/23 9:28:03 PM
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idk when they banned plastic bags at grocery stores in my city but it's been at least a couple of years.

I seem to recall this discussion playing out here before, because I definitely remember LinkPizza's perspective.

I like adapting, pretty easy.

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ReturnOfFa
09/11/23 9:29:30 PM
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There are also those handy rolls of little doggy bags you can buy. I buy those when I'm taking care of a friend's dog. They're $1.68 for 10 rolls. But I'd be fine with other methods not involving plastic bags.

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josh
09/11/23 9:38:34 PM
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they banned single new plastic bags in my state and replaced them with reusable expensive plastic bags that everyone treated as single use (:

typical government L

they finally realised their mistake after a few years and now we're using paper bags

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ReturnOfFa
09/11/23 9:42:18 PM
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josh posted...
they banned single new plastic bags in my state and replaced them with reusable expensive plastic bags that everyone treated as single use (:

typical government L

they finally realised their mistake after a few years and now we're using paper bags
I'd call people buying 40 of the re-useable bags the ones fucking up, and that includes my mom. You should have 5 of them. People are so dumb.

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sodium-chloride
09/11/23 9:45:01 PM
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they should just ban plastic bags altogether from grocery stores
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LinkPizza
09/11/23 10:07:34 PM
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adjl posted...
I'm sure you could figure out something that would leave them in an accessible, easily-remembered location that also kept them safe from meddling quadrupeds. It's not that hard to develop the habit of keeping bags around. You just have to actually put a modicum of effort into doing so instead of just sticking to the status quo of making unnecessary garbage.

Maybe. If I tried Then again, I left my wallet on the counter once so Id remember it, and took forever looking for it So, maybe not Maybe it would be different if I needed to use them, or even wanted to And I do keep bags around. Theyre just mostly plastic bags and the occasional backpack. And my DND messenger bag

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Ferron
09/11/23 10:36:10 PM
#35:


Shrek posted...
why would i spend like $50 on a box of cat shit bags when i could just use a free Walmart bag though

i fear for when they get banned around here so i have been, quite literally, hoarding them

I'm sorry but this is just kind of...sad
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ReturnOfFa
09/11/23 10:37:54 PM
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Shrek posted...
why would i spend like $50 on a box of cat shit bags when i could just use a free Walmart bag though
wtf are cat shit bags bro


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DrPrimemaster
09/11/23 10:59:23 PM
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My plastic bags dont end up in a landfill, theyre in a cupboard in my house.

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Sufferedphoneix
09/12/23 8:04:30 AM
#38:


Far-Queue posted...
Uh, there are products available for this express purpose. Anyone who can't afford to buy a roll of disposal bags shouldn't be allowed to own pets tbh. How can they afford to feed a pet if they can't afford to clean up after it?

My mom is practically a crazy car lady. She will easily fill a grocery bag with cat litter. It's the only reason we keep them

Me personally I've had to have my receipt checked many times going out of Walmart cause they find it odd I don't typically use bags. Bags of any kind. I go to the store like every few days and only buy a little.

My drinks for work I keep in the trunk. I'll pull one out the day before to put in the fridge bur I can be forgetful so if I forget to pack it for work I still got some in the trunk. Won't be cold but I'll have it. Everything else I can typically manage to carry in the house in just one or two trips despite no bags

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Revelation34
09/12/23 12:00:24 PM
#39:


sodium-chloride posted...
they should just ban plastic bags altogether from grocery stores


Including garbage bags.

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J_Dawg983
09/12/23 5:48:57 PM
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Theyve been banned in Canada for a while now, most places carry paper or sell reusable bags fabric bags. Its a little annoying at first but you get used to it quickly.

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ReturnOfFa
09/12/23 9:18:58 PM
#41:


@Shrek can you please explain why you need bags for your cat shits

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wwinterj25
09/12/23 10:01:12 PM
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https://imgur.com/FgKKvSR

Just a rubbish bag I paid for. These are strong enough to carry stuff and use as well....rubbish bags. Paper bags will not carry what I buy and I don't drive.

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ReturnOfFa
09/12/23 10:35:04 PM
#43:


wwinterj25 posted...
https://imgur.com/FgKKvSR

Just a rubbish bag I paid for. These are strong enough to carry stuff and use as well....rubbish bags. Paper bags will not carry what I buy and I don't drive.
I spent two years in a different city a year back - I shopped on my bike with a backpack. To be fair, pretty goddamn annoying when you have to go every 2nd day since milk etc takes up room. Still, it's a lot more doable if you get saddle bags and whatnot. But it's full dedication to bike dorkdom.

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wwinterj25
09/12/23 10:37:04 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
But it's full dedication to bike dorkdom.

I have legs but no bike. Besides I don't live far from shops.


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Revelation34
09/12/23 11:10:46 PM
#45:


ReturnOfFa posted...
@Shrek can you please explain why you need bags for your cat shits


Revelation34 posted...
Waste disposal bags are super small compared to a grocery store bag.

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ReturnOfFa
09/12/23 11:30:45 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
@Shrek can you please explain why you need bags for your cat s***s


Revelation34 posted...
Waste disposal bags are super small compared to a grocery store bag.
Are you/him/other people putting bags in their cat litter boxes???? Or using bags to scoop shit out instead of the scoop???? Are you leaving the cat litter dirty enough that you need a bag in it? That would smell fucking disgusting. I have taken care of cats. You scoop the shit and clumped piss out daily and replace the litter every few weeks or once a month. I am not sure where a bag enters the equation and nobody I know with a cat uses a bag.

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Shrek
09/13/23 12:01:52 AM
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you scoop the poop into the bag and throw the bag away

are you just free balling cat shit in your regular trashcan

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ReturnOfFa
09/13/23 12:08:23 AM
#48:


Shrek posted...
you scoop the poop into the bag and throw the bag away

are you just free balling cat shit in your regular trashcan
In a separate fully sealed smallish garbage can, yes? Also, that blows away Rev's weird comment about waste disposal bags not being big enough, if you chose to do this. Those little poop bags are plenty big enough, you can pick up big fat dog shits with those.

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_____Cait
09/13/23 12:09:10 AM
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in japan, we all have carry bags that we put stuff in. Its really useful and cuts back on plastic.

Trust me, it is better

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NeoSioType
09/13/23 12:31:22 AM
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Japanese carrying around used cat litter? Possibly a new jutsu to ward off bears?
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