Poll of the Day > Literally all 50 Portland riot police officers resign

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Ferarri619
06/18/21 12:14:17 PM
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/entire-portland-police-crowd-control-unit-resigns-officer/story?id=78342360

Oh boy, imagine if riots begin now
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Sarcasthma
06/18/21 12:16:28 PM
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Imagine if they started a restaurant that sold burgers made of meat from Hitler clones.

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Ferarri619
06/18/21 12:17:38 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Imagine if they started a restaurant that sold burgers made of meat from Hitler clones.

xD

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Mead
06/18/21 12:27:49 PM
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Fuck em

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adjl
06/18/21 1:04:42 PM
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No, we don't need police reform at all! The fact that this entire squad is effectively going on strike over one of their members being charged (not even convicted) with using illegal force does not in any way indicate that there's a serious large-scale problem with covering up incidents and avoiding accountability for officers that overstep boundaries that need to be in place!

Charge the lot of them with some manner of conspiracy or corruption, I'd say. Jeopardizing public safety for the sake of supporting a colleague suspected of committing a crime should not be tolerated.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
06/18/21 1:14:41 PM
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adjl posted...
Charge the lot of them with some manner of conspiracy or corruption, I'd say. Jeopardizing public safety for the sake of supporting a colleague suspected of committing a crime should not be tolerated.
This.

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OrangeDawn
06/18/21 2:01:59 PM
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ACAB

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OhhhJa
06/18/21 2:11:10 PM
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adjl posted...
Charge the lot of them with some manner of conspiracy or corruption, I'd say. Jeopardizing public safety for the sake of supporting a colleague suspected of committing a crime should not be tolerated.
Ok Kim Jong un
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Muscles
06/18/21 2:12:53 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Ok Kim Jong un
I'm not sure where you're making that comparison, this kind of corruption is what Un is known for.

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adjl
06/18/21 2:13:10 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Ok Kim Jong un

I'm curious how you think not letting police strongarm the population into turning a blind eye to police brutality qualifies as a dictatorial practice. From where I stand, that looks like it's the exact opposite of true, which makes it a very strange thing to say indeed.

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OhhhJa
06/18/21 3:19:27 PM
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adjl posted...
I'm curious how you think not letting police strongarm the population into turning a blind eye to police brutality qualifies as a dictatorial practice. From where I stand, that looks like it's the exact opposite of true, which makes it a very strange thing to say indeed.
You should be allowed to quit a job whenever you feel like it for any reason
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Mead
06/18/21 3:22:24 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
You should be allowed to quit a job whenever you feel like it for any reason

and if you commit a crime while on the job that results in pain and suffering you should be charged like anyone else

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OhhhJa
06/18/21 3:30:01 PM
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Mead posted...
and if you commit a crime while on the job that results in pain and suffering you should be charged like anyone else
Sure but they can also quit if they want to
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Mead
06/18/21 3:32:25 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Sure but they can also quit if they want to

Yes, but can you concur that their union having them all quit in unison because a coworker was charged with a crime is a betrayal of public trust?

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adjl
06/18/21 3:35:03 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
You should be allowed to quit a job whenever you feel like it for any reason

Emergency services are rarely allowed full freedom to take job action due to the potential for disastrous consequences if their roles aren't filled. The fact that literal lives on the line makes that necessary. Modified provisions generally exist, but they generally amount to requiring alternative coverage to be arranged. A paramedic that decided to quit mid-call and let a patient die in the back of an ambulance, for example, would face charges for doing so.

Regardless of that, this is unambiguously a case of the force threatening the public to get out of facing consequences for breaking the law. There is no way to suggest that this should be permitted. It is unarguably a case of corruption and should be treated as such.

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OhhhJa
06/18/21 3:35:52 PM
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Mead posted...
Yes, but can you concur that their union having them all quit in unison because a coworker was charged with a crime is a betrayal of public trust?
Sure. But cops are easily replaceable. Just go find 50 more dumbasses and they'll do every bit as good
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Mead
06/18/21 3:36:22 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Sure. But cops are easily replaceable. Just go find 50 more dumbasses and they'll do every bit as good

Agreed.

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OhhhJa
06/18/21 3:36:37 PM
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adjl posted...
A paramedic that decided to quit mid-call and let a patient die in the back of an ambulance, for example, would face charges for doing so.
Sure but these cops didn't quit amidst an emergency
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adjl
06/18/21 3:40:06 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Sure but these cops didn't quit amidst an emergency

And if an emergency were to arise before they were replaced?

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OhhhJa
06/18/21 3:41:39 PM
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adjl posted...
And if an emergency were to arise before they were replaced?
Idk if forcing disgruntled cops to continue working as cops is a great idea
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adjl
06/18/21 3:59:09 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Idk if forcing disgruntled cops to continue working as cops is a great idea

The job needs to be done. If they fail to live up to that duty because they're grumpy, that's on them, and should certainly result in some manner of punishment for breaching their employment contract.

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OhhhJa
06/18/21 4:05:18 PM
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adjl posted...
The job needs to be done. If they fail to live up to that duty because they're grumpy, that's on them, and should certainly result in some manner of punishment for breaching their employment contract.
Well, I disagree with criminal charges. There are enough options available that that would be silly
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adjl
06/18/21 4:11:55 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Well, I disagree with criminal charges. There are enough options available that that would be silly

This is pretty clearly corruption in a public office, which is a criminal charge. A single cop quitting like this, less so, but when it's a coordinated attempt across the entire force, that becomes a conspiracy to endanger the public.

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Zeus
06/18/21 4:12:28 PM
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Portland has apparently already decided that it doesn't need police

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/defunding-portland-police-city-council-budget-15-million-cuts/283-239c5e3a-cfed-4dce-8775-d2c52a9df9aa

If 75% of Portland actually wants its police (as polling has shown), they need to step up against the radical elements and to vote out the politicians kowtowing to those elements. Otherwise they can let Portland become an experimental city to see if things can manage without a real police presence.

adjl posted...
No, we don't need police reform at all! The fact that this entire squad is effectively going on strike over one of their members being charged (not even convicted) with using illegal force does not in any way indicate that there's a serious large-scale problem with covering up incidents and avoiding accountability for officers that overstep boundaries that need to be in place!

...for riot police to be effective, they have to be able to police riots. When you arrest them for doing their job, it's understandable that people aren't going to want to do that job.

Rather than police reform, we need governmental reform to limit how much harm politicians can do their area at any given time.

adjl posted...
Charge the lot of them with some manner of conspiracy or corruption, I'd say. Jeopardizing public safety for the sake of supporting a colleague suspected of committing a crime should not be tolerated.

Literally crying pretend-fascism while proposing literal fascism.

adjl posted...
Emergency services are rarely allowed full freedom to take job action due to the potential for disastrous consequences if their roles aren't filled.

You say that, but when's the last time charges were brought against 911 dispatchers who decided to drop a call or conveyed bad information? We've seen dispatchers literally drop emergency calls because they didn't "feel like dealing with them right now" where punishments ranged from reprimand to termination rather than prison time. Clearly there's no real standard in place for emergency roles, even though in some of those cases there WERE disastrous consequences.


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adjl
06/18/21 4:17:49 PM
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Zeus posted...
...for riot police to be effective, they have to be able to police riots.

Which does not include carte blanche to use whatever force they want. There are rules to be followed, and when those rules are broken, consequences should be faced.

Zeus posted...
Literally crying pretend-fascism while proposing literal fascism.

Again, you're suggesting it is fascist to penalize a police force for attempting to hold the public hostage because one of their own is facing criminal charges for committing a crime? But not fascist for the police force to hold the public hostage because one of their own is facing criminal charges for committing a crime? Little backwards, don't you think?

Zeus posted...
You say that, but when's the last time charges were brought against 911 dispatchers who decided to drop a call or conveyed bad information? We've seen dispatchers literally drop emergency calls because they didn't "feel like dealing with them right now" where punishments ranged from reprimand to termination rather than prison time. Clearly there's no real standard in place for emergency roles, even though in some of those cases there WERE disastrous consequences.

There really should be more concrete standards and harsher punishments there, especially where every call is recorded and it's easy to collect evidence of dispatchers that fail to do their job. Whatever point you're trying to make with this whataboutism, you've really just brought up another example of the same problem, to which I object equally.

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Zareth
06/18/21 5:11:05 PM
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Zeus posted...
Literally crying pretend-fascism while proposing literal fascism.
I don't think you understand what fascism is

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Sahuagin
06/18/21 5:15:33 PM
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as Zang mentioned, they have not resigned from being cops, they have only de-volunteered from the "Rapid Response Team"

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Metalsonic66
06/18/21 5:17:41 PM
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Zeus posted...
When you arrest them for doing their job
Hahahahahaha

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Krazy_Kirby
06/18/21 5:52:45 PM
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adjl posted...


Charge the lot of them with some manner of conspiracy or corruption, I'd say. Jeopardizing public safety for the sake of supporting a colleague suspected of committing a crime should not be tolerated.


you can't force people to volunteer for other parts of their job
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Krazy_Kirby
06/18/21 5:59:22 PM
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remember, they were protesting...

just because they set fires/looted/vandalised/etc...

and the virus can't spread during protests, so you don't have to wear masks
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Blightzkrieg
06/18/21 6:15:49 PM
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I wonder how many good apples will resign to protest this endorsement of police brutality

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Mead
06/18/21 6:17:02 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
remember, they were protesting...

just because they set fires/looted/vandalised/etc...

and the virus can't spread during protests, so you don't have to wear masks

are you just incapable of completing human thoughts?

Is that what is going on with you?

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adjl
06/18/21 7:14:23 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
you can't force people to volunteer for other parts of their job

If they've already volunteered, and lives depend on them honouring that commitment? Sure you can, at least until you're able to line up a replacement. Most notably, the issue is not that a single cop resigned, it's that the entire force colluded to resign together in an organized attack on public safety.

Mead posted...
are you just incapable of completing human thoughts?

Is that what is going on with you?

Perhaps he's disoriented because there's a heat wave and his resting temp is in the high 90's.

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Veedrock-
06/18/21 7:19:28 PM
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adjl posted...
it's that the entire force colluded to resign together
That's kinda how effective protest works. Wait til you learn police officers are union and can go on strike in their entirety if they choose.

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Hop103
06/18/21 7:23:56 PM
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RIP Portland

It has to be one of the worst places for riot police to resign as that's an Antifa hotspot. Maybe they can move to the midwest, we have a slight shortage of cops due to an aging police force.
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shadowsword87
06/18/21 7:27:48 PM
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Y'all just... don't read the article do you?
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DirtBasedSoap
06/18/21 7:31:20 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
remember, they were protesting...

just because they set fires/looted/vandalised/etc...

and the virus can't spread during protests, so you don't have to wear masks
your brain is rotten

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HelIWithoutSin
06/18/21 7:49:47 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
That's kinda how effective protest works. Wait til you learn police officers are union and can go on strike in their entirety if they choose.

Here ya go. https://onlabor.org/overview-how-different-states-respond-to-public-sector-labor-unrest/

Oregon
No strikes by hospital guards, firefighters, or police

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Mead
06/18/21 8:01:42 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Antifa hotspot.

lmao

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HelIWithoutSin
06/19/21 2:50:04 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Hahahahahaha

Just doing his job. It even says that's what he was charged with on the arrest report.

https://i.imgur.com/oJ3sCOd.mp4

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Metalsonic66
06/19/21 3:12:27 AM
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What a nice guy

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Kegran
06/19/21 9:31:48 AM
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I seriously hope they get the police defunded. Cops are the only thing protecting the lives of the criminals from good armed citizens.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
06/19/21 1:32:40 PM
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I thought these were peaceful protests. What need do they have for riot police?

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Muscles
06/19/21 2:22:46 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I thought these were peaceful protests. What need do they have for riot police?
1. It's possible for some people to peacefully protest while others riot
2. It's not like cops don't love to break up peaceful protests for no reason, how many peaceful hippies got beat in the 60s and 70s?

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Revelation34
06/19/21 2:45:05 PM
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Didn't this happen like 6 months ago? Or was that a different city?
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adjl
06/19/21 2:47:45 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Didn't this happen like 6 months ago? Or was that a different city?

A similar thing happened in another city about a year ago. This happened on Thursday.

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Blightzkrieg
06/19/21 3:08:07 PM
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adjl posted...
A similar thing happened in another city about a year ago. This happened on Thursday.
This shit happens every Thursday? I thought it was more frequent

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FatalAccident
06/19/21 3:11:03 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Imagine if they started a restaurant that sold burgers made of meat from Hitler clones.
lmfao

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adjl
06/19/21 3:17:48 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
This shit happens every Thursday? I thought it was more frequent

It probably is, but most of the stats I've got to look at are more local, which is going to fail to capture its true frequency.

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