Poll of the Day > Mario 64 sucks

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Prove me wrong.

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Mario 64 rocks
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yeah it fucking blows
i know it was the first and was really ground breaking when it came out but the camera is dogshit and sucks out all the fun in 2021

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Okay but first we have to talk about parallel universes.

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I can prove you wrong in 0.5 A presses.

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I enjoy it a lot.

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It's the game that killed any interest I ever had in the Mario franchise. And by extension, to some extent, Nintendo as a whole.

The shift to 3D left me completely cold - both Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 were terrible to me (both looking and playing like shit) compared to the SNES games in those franchises. Added to the fact that I hated Ocarina of Time for similar reasons, and the fact that Final Fantasy jumped to the PS1 as a franchise, it's why I basically shifted from Nintendo to Sony and never looked back.

Since then, Nintendo's kept going in directions that are either completely disinteresting to me or are outright annoying, while my fickle taste tends to wobble back and forth between Playstation and Xbox these days. It didn't help that almost every game I ever wanted to play or that interested me either wasn't on the current-gen Nintendo console at all, or if it was it was also available on the others as well. So I've never felt the need to own one ever again.

There are very few games I can point to and say "THIS is why I don't own Nintendo consoles anymore", but Mario 64 is definitely one of them (Ocarina's probably another, and Shadowgate 64 probably falls in that list as well). It forms a pretty clear dividing line in my brain for the moment when I stopped caring about Nintendo.
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My dick is small. Prove me wrong.

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Forest_Temple posted...

My dick is small. Prove me wrong.

You're wrong.

It's microscopic.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

It's the game that killed any interest I ever had in the Mario franchise. And by extension, to some extent, Nintendo as a whole.

The shift to 3D left me completely cold - both Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 were terrible to me (both looking and playing like shit) compared to the SNES games in those franchises. Added to the fact that I hated Ocarina of Time for similar reasons, and the fact that Final Fantasy jumped to the PS1 as a franchise, it's why I basically shifted from Nintendo to Sony and never looked back.

Since then, Nintendo's kept going in directions that are either completely disinteresting to me or are outright annoying, while my fickle taste tends to wobble back and forth between Playstation and Xbox these days. It didn't help that almost every game I ever wanted to play or that interested me either wasn't on the current-gen Nintendo console at all, or if it was it was also available on the others as well. So I've never felt the need to own one ever again.

There are very few games I can point to and say "THIS is why I don't own Nintendo consoles anymore", but Mario 64 is definitely one of them (Ocarina's probably another, and Shadowgate 64 probably falls in that list as well). It forms a pretty clear dividing line in my brain for the moment when I stopped caring about Nintendo.

How old were you when it came out?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A

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I can't, it's awful. Mario didn't have another good game for 16 years after SMW, absolutely disgraceful.

ReturnOfFa posted...

How old were you when it came out?

I was 19 when it hit North America.

It would have been right around the same time I bought my PS1 (I remember mostly playing my SNES in freshman year of college, but I pre-ordered FFVII for release day on 7/7/97 about a year later, so I got my PS1 somewhere between those two points).

I freely acknowledge my distaste for M64 might have been because I was too "old" to buy into it (the same reason I tend to think why I dislike/am apathetic towards Pokemon, while most people who were kids in the late 90s are still obsessed with it).

It might also have been because I was already gravitating away from platformers in general (I don't really play/enjoy them at all today, and even back then it's hard to think of any platformers on the PS1/PS2/etc that I was into, other than maybe the original Tomb Raider). Most of my early PS1 games were RPGs (Final Fantasy, Suikoden, Xenogears, Lunar, Legend of Dragoon, Granstream Saga, Kartia) or racing games (Destruction Derby, Gran Turismo, Ridge Racer). Or games that fell somewhere on the point-and-click adventure/survival horror spectrum (Broken Sword, Myst/Riven, Resident Evil, Parasite Eve). Or when playing with friends, mainly fighting games (Mortal Kombat Trilogy, Tekken, SoulEdge).

Even once I started moving into full-on shooters, I never really saw GoldenEye as something worth caring about, because I was coming from the Wolfenstein/Doom style of shooter and then segued right into Halo, so I kind of skipped over anything that made GoldenEye memorable (and most of my friends were in the same Wolfenstein/Doom/Halo trajectory I was).
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Mario 64 needs a proper remake. The DS game added some great content but the controls were ass. Whomp's Fortress in Galaxy 2 was a lot of fun and I would love to see the whole game in that style

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wwinterj25 posted... Prove me wrong.

Unless you were playing the remake, even the first few minutes of Mario 64 would prove you wrong.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

It's the game that killed any interest I ever had in the Mario franchise. And by extension, to some extent, Nintendo as a whole.

Boo!

SilentSeph posted...

Mario 64 needs a proper remake. The DS game added some great content but the controls were ass. Whomp's Fortress in Galaxy 2 was a lot of fun and I would love to see the whole game in that style

I'm not sure how much of a remake it needs since a lot of the charm was also in the game's look and there's only so much you can change before it stops feeling like Mario 64 (that and you can just include homage levels in similar sequels). The DS remake was disappointing both for the controls, but also because you were forced to use Yoshi during the early missions

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

I was 19 when it hit North America.

It would have been right around the same time I bought my PS1 (I remember mostly playing my SNES in freshman year of college, but I pre-ordered FFVII for release day on 7/7/97 about a year later, so I got my PS1 somewhere between those two points).

I freely acknowledge my distaste for M64 might have been because I was too "old" to buy into it (the same reason I tend to think why I dislike/am apathetic towards Pokemon, while most people who were kids in the late 90s are still obsessed with it).

It might also have been because I was already gravitating away from platformers in general (I don't really play/enjoy them at all today, and even back then it's hard to think of any platformers on the PS1/PS2/etc that I was into, other than maybe the original Tomb Raider). Most of my early PS1 games were RPGs (Final Fantasy, Suikoden, Xenogears, Lunar, Legend of Dragoon, Granstream Saga, Kartia) or racing games (Destruction Derby, Gran Turismo, Ridge Racer). Or games that fell somewhere on the point-and-click adventure/survival horror spectrum (Broken Sword, Myst/Riven, Resident Evil, Parasite Eve). Or when playing with friends, mainly fighting games (Mortal Kombat Trilogy, Tekken, SoulEdge).

Even once I started moving into full-on shooters, I never really saw GoldenEye as something worth caring about, because I was coming from the Wolfenstein/Doom style of shooter and then segued right into Halo, so I kind of skipped over anything that made GoldenEye memorable (and most of my friends were in the same Wolfenstein/Doom/Halo trajectory I was).

I was gonna make 'old' jokes, but you're self-aware XD. Fair.

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Yeah; agreed. Mario 64 convinced me that 3D Mario isn't my cup of tea.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

It's the game that killed any interest I ever had in the Mario franchise. And by extension, to some extent, Nintendo as a whole.

I have interest in Nintendo. I did enjoy playing Mario Galaxy a little on the WII. The problem with that was the WII and it's controls. I understand what you're saying though. 2D Mario seems more fun. Granted Mario 64 with its bad level design and controls isn't a good representation of how far Mario games have come but this shit is really testing my patience.

Forest_Temple posted...

My dick is small. Prove me wrong.

Sadly GameFAQs doesn't allow me to post pics of my small rooster.

Zeus posted...

Unless you were playing the remake, even the first few minutes of Mario 64 would prove you wrong.

Playing the All Stars collection. You are not providing evidence.

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I think Sunshine killed a bit of my enthusiasm between the waterpack gimmick as well as that shit decision to add Bowser Jr (when the franchise already had SEVEN great Koopalings and they could featured any one of them in his place), and then I just never felt into SMG (and I still need to play SMG2, which is shrinkwrapped on a shelf somewhere... but I also don't feel like hooking up the Wii again)

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I will try Sunshine next. Never played it.

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I never liked Mario 64, I just felt that as a whole, video game developers never "got" how 3D platforming should work until the mid 00's. Everything before that just felt like a downgrade from their 2D counterparts.

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wwinterj25 posted...

I will try Sunshine next. Never played it.

I love it, but if you don't like the controls in Mario 64...Sunshine is arguably worse.

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Sunshine is fucking great

Sunshine is technically kinda bad but its BY FAR my favorite Mario game.

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