Board 8 > Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne HD remaster coming Spring 2021; new SMTV trailer

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7NOzFb_1MI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZJ5qC1w2xE

OH YAYAYAYAYAYA

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2021 on course to redeem 2020

Edit: wait no Dante from the Devil May Cry series? Man...

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also SMTV is getting a worldwide release

according to arti not even Persona gets that.

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ninkendo posted...

also SMTV is getting a worldwide release

according to arti not even Persona gets that.

I can confirm from past experience that this is the case

and in the case of Scramble, it might not get released at all!

Is there any hope for actual voice acting in the Nocturne remake, given that the trailer has voice work, or did they literally find people to do english voices just for the trailer?

regardless, SMTV confirmed for next year is the real news here.

An HD remaster of an RPG that first released in 2003....

(looks at Xenosaga)

I'm not crying, you're crying

Have SMT 1&2 ever had an official English release? I know there's translations, and they're not exactly 'friendly' games by modern standards, but remakes with some (optional) QoL improvements would seem overdue given that the franchise's current popularity.
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BlackMageJawa posted...

Have SMT 1&2 ever had an official English release? I know there's translations, and they're not exactly 'friendly' games by modern standards, but remakes with some (optional) QoL improvements would seem overdue given that the franchise's current popularity.

SMT 1 was released for iOS. 2 doesn't have an English release.

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http://shin-megamitensei.jp/3hd/

Nocturne is also coming to PS4

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ninkendo posted...

http://shin-megamitensei.jp/3hd/

Nocturne is also coming to PS4

Oh cool. I don't really trust HD remasters on Switch.

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Okay 2021 good work so far.

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https://twitter.com/QueenFlaming/status/1285224413118574593

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MechanicalWall posted...

Edit: wait no Dante from the Devil May Cry series? Man...

Kirby ate Dante
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MechanicalWall posted...

Edit: wait no Dante from the Devil May Cry series? Man...

man first Nier loses the dad and now this

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Yeah they already lost it back in the PS2 era when it got a re-release in Japan they replaced Dante with Raidou from the Devil Summoner games.

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https://youtu.be/Wovh784sz9M

The virgin P5 switch port vs the chad Nocturne remaster

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Good news. Nocturne is a classic and really made you feel like you were in a post-apocalyptic world and you never knew what you were getting yourself into. I definitely felt fear and anxious with the setting and music. Now DDS1&2 need remasters

Why do IV and V's protags have such awful hair

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barreldragon88 posted...

Good news. Nocturne is a classic and really made you feel like you were in a post-apocalyptic world and you never knew what you were getting yourself into. I definitely felt fear and anxious with the setting and music. Now DDS1&2 need remasters

Why do IV and V's protags have such awful hair

Well 4 had a samurai theme going on. Here, we don't actually know what they'll look like, since he was clearly merging with a demon at the end there. Think we have another demifiend situation.

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barreldragon88 posted...

Why do IV and V's protags have such awful hair

Flynn's hair is fine, since it very strongly suits the "Samurai" style.

Flower boy's hair would probably be better if it were less asymmetrical though, I agree.

Not gonna lie I thought the SMT5 character was a girl at first

wow what a bad SMT5 trailer

it's bonkers that all this time later and that's all they can show us. the same scenery they had teased years ago with some new models in them. not even great looking models.

i'm pretty convinced that this game is going to be garbage.

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swordz9 posted...

Not gonna lie I thought the SMT5 character was a girl at first

Same.

Very curious to see if this ties directly into Nocturne somehow, the demon dude in the trailer looks kind of like an older, buffer, more armored Demi Fiend.

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swordz9 posted...

Not gonna lie I thought the SMT5 character was a girl at first

I wish.

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to expand my thoughts a little bit more: it seems like a really bad sign that, after all this time, that's all they have to show us. a trailer that shows next to nothing that we hadn't already seen. that reads as a very bad sign.

also the fact that like, the trailer is clearly trying to be moody and atmospheric but just comes off as dull and uninteresting. this is also a bad sign! not that the same person/people that cut the trailer worked on the game but if you can't get the tone down for a minute long trailer...oof

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So I have played some other SMT games and I really liked them so I will buy both of them. I have heard that Nocturne is the best supposedly but I hope it will have QOL updates and extra stuff too.

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Safer_777 posted...

So I have played some other SMT games and I really liked them so I will buy both of them. I have heard that Nocturne is the best supposedly but I hope it will have QOL updates and extra stuff too.

it might! The voice acting in the trailer is already an upgrade the original didn't have.

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pxlated posted...

to expand my thoughts a little bit more: it seems like a really bad sign that, after all this time, that's all they have to show us. a trailer that shows next to nothing that we hadn't already seen. that reads as a very bad sign.

also the fact that like, the trailer is clearly trying to be moody and atmospheric but just comes off as dull and uninteresting. this is also a bad sign! not that the same person/people that cut the trailer worked on the game but if you can't get the tone down for a minute long trailer...oof

I'm currently neutral on SMTV, but I want to like it. I wonder if those rumors that Atlus literally forgot they announced it are actually true and only just started working on it again recently.

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Atlus is good about updating gameplay with their re-releases, so I would at least expect Apocalypse or Persona 5 levels of convenience for demon fusion or whatever similar mechanics Nocturne has.

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yeah IMO the thing about SMT5 is that the mainline games are pretty consistent. I never got around to SMT4A (need to replay 4 and do that soonish I guess) but 4 itself was great. If they keep the QOL and polish of that, and then improve on it, I dunno how they could fuck it up. I dont even really need a trailer, I'm just glad they remembered it exists and have a timeline.

The worst thing I can say about it is that it kinda looks like a Nocturne ripoff. But like....fine? Good? If they just make Nocturne Lite with modern design sensibilities it'll probably still kick ass.

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yeah like...it will still probably be fine. it's SMT, it's not like they're going to show off some new groundbreaking thing for SMT. it's just weird that this is all we've got.

i hadn't heard the rumors that they literally just forgot about it but god i hope that's true. it would at least make sense.

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Yoo did I see Raidou in that trailer??

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Yeah Raidou replaces Dante from Devil May Cry in the updated versions of the game.

Hopefully we can at least get a "Featuring Raidou from Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army" icon on the boxart!

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This is neat. I own a version of Nocturne, but I'll happily give Atlus more of my dollars to encourage them to keep giving me the chance to give them my dollars here in the USA.

Maybe I'll actually play it this time, and maybe I'll play SMTV!

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Why are we assuming protag is a male. Maybe it's going to be different since it is 2021 lol

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I don't think this trailer is enough to draw a negative conclusion from.

We still have half a year of 2020 left.

https://youtu.be/zlJrEwEMIpM

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Now what I actually want is HD remasters of digital devil saga 1+2

Those are my favorite PS2 SMT games

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ninkendo posted...

Now what I actually want is HD remasters of digital devil saga 1+2

Those are my favorite PS2 SMT games

Yes, they need more love

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colliding posted...

I don't think this trailer is enough to draw a negative conclusion from.

We still have half a year of 2020 left.

the negative conclusion comes from the fact that there's essentially nothing to draw a conclusion from. atlus having essentially nothing to show (or deciding to show nothing) except models after how many years? and coupled with atlus' recent history of (imo) quite bad game design decisions, i am less than optimistic. SMT isn't exactly a franchise that benefits from some sort of super secret marketing campaign with no actual details revealed.

but i'm also generally a pessimistic shit so who cares.

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pxlated posted...

the negative conclusion comes from the fact that there's essentially nothing to draw a conclusion from. atlus having essentially nothing to show (or deciding to show nothing) except models after how many years? and coupled with atlus' recent history of (imo) quite bad game design decisions, i am less than optimistic. SMT isn't exactly a franchise that benefits from some sort of super secret marketing campaign with no actual details revealed.

How far before launch did they show gameplay for previous SMT games? I feel like it was a pretty short time with those.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

How far before launch did they show gameplay for previous SMT games? I feel like it was a pretty short time with those.

i have no idea but this isn't exactly a standard SMT release. it's the highest profile release the franchise has had, and one that was used as a switch launch announcement vehicle.

like that trailer doesn't even show us any new environments. it's the same environments we had already seen in the very, very, brief "teasers" we had gotten (that were, similarily, empty environments and occasionally models)

it just strikes me as a very odd decision to only show what they showed. one that feels to me like it was an afterthought. feels very much like they don't care to put the same kind of effort into SMT that they do into other things anymore.

shine claimed at one point that there were rumors that atlus just plain forgot about this game (probably unsubstantiated rumors based on just how much time passed) but honestly? i believe it. it feels like a rushed book report. that's the vibe this trailer gives me.

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especially given the very first teaser we got was just some models floating around one of the environments we saw again in the recent trailer :eyes:

tho the majority of those models were covered in shadow at the time. so i guess like...they finished those? that's cool? i said this in discord but if the tradeoff for having spent this much time on the game to seemingly less-than-spectacular results was they just like...made future-proofed, really nice 3d models for every smt demon ever or something. make the next decade of SMT and related games easier to make. but the models don't necessarily look all that great? they look good for sure and probably can look better on non-switch hardware, but i'd be surprised if this is what happened.

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Atlus does this all the time though. They did a chair trailer for Persona 5 and didn't show anything else for like four years afterwards.

yeah and persona 5 has a lot of bad choices. more than good ones!

(i'm being facetious about the connection between the non-trailers and this, to be clear)

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there is a difference though between something that is clearly meant to be highly stylized and "weird" and "mysterious" or all that shit that is tied to the persona brand now and just...an empty trailer.

if this trailer had any kind of intrigue to it, it would be a different story. but there isn't. there's just...nothing.

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I was intrigued by the angel dude (I'm guessing it was Metatron since he's the only one with metallic hands like that) coming down to give the MC his power

seemed like reverse Nocturne

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yeah that's the most substantial bit in the whole trailer and it still gives me that like..rushed book report vibe.

we'll see. i'm certain the game isn't going to be bad, atlus doesn't really make bad games. just disappointing ones lately, it seems. i just wish they tried a little harder to combat the appearance that they just don't give a shit about SMT any more.

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I dunno, I just disagree. I thought the trailer was pretty hype. I have nothing factual to back that up, but I think it's intriguing.

yeah that's fair. i'm just pessimistic and defensive about SMT. i don't like the modern persona formula and atlus is (for good reason, it makes them more money) leaning into that more and more and straying further away from what i think was most compelling about their game design.

and having followed and analyzed to death the non-teasers that had been released over the past 5 years, it's frustrating seeing how little new exists in what they finally gave us to accompany the release date reveal.

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but yeah. the most recent SMT releases are co-opting persona design in ways i do not like. SMT4: apocalypse is dripping in persona-esque characters and writing (which clashes entirely with the vibe of SMT), and the remake of strange journey's biggest new feature is a poorly written persona-esque character (lolol redundant)...i'm worried. probably more than i have any right to be, i'll admit.

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