Board 8 > So... who was the last non-controversial president?

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Obviously we don't how history will remember Obama, but "controversially" seems like a safe bet. Who was the last president whom people were like "Yeah, that guy. I remember him. He was an alright dude" for?

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clinton

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Clinton was mostly popular during his presidency. Eisenhower also did well most of his.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-presapp0605-31.html

History will probably remember Obama as an okay president. Or maybe he'll be remembered as the indirect founder of the Tea Party.

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Also from that graph:

Both Bush's obtained really high peaks of popularity before plummeting into the abyss.

Yeah Clinton wasn't controversial at all...He was only involved in several scandals.

Maybe George Bush

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That graph is......surprising. The president's approval rating has correlated very well with the inverse of stock prices for the past 10 years. As the stock market rose through most of Bush's presidency, his approval rating plummeted. Then came the crash, and a couple months later, Obama's election, upon which the approval rating rocketed upward. As the market came back some in the past 3 years, Obama's approval rating dropped.

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George Washington.

I'm not kidding.

Clinton is literally the only president since WW2 to have a positive trend

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Paratroopa1 posted...
George Washington.

I'm not kidding.

Came in to say this.

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Eisenhower or Coolidge.

Was going to say Ford, but his pardon of Nixon argues to the contrary.

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LordoftheMorons posted...
Clinton is literally the only president since WW2 to have a positive trend

Truman's remembered very well in spite of his abysmal approval ratings when he left office.

Eisenhower and Reagan are also praised. Even LBJ receives praise for his work in civil rights.

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From: dethfdddddh | #014
Eisenhower and Reagan are also praised

No sane person praises Reagan

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Washington was controversial among the Brits!

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WiggumFan267 posted...
Washington was controversial among the Brits!

There was also the Whiskey rebellion and his friendship with Hamilton, who the Democrat-Republicans despised.

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Reagan is a weird dude where he wasn't all that popular during most of his presidency and no one cared for a while, then conservatives starting holding him up as a paragon of "founding fathers"-style virtue and now he's seeing a resurgence. I bet he's more popular right now than he's ever been.

Paratroopa1 posted...
George Washington.

I'm not kidding.

This.

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How about William Henry Harrison? He was only in office for like 40 days before he died of an illness. The only major thing he did was...uh..die.

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William Henry Harrison had that whole controversy of whether buttoning his coat would have warded off pneumonia. I'm on the "it wouldn't have mattered" side of the fence. His speech was like 3 hours long in the freezing cold.

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dethfdddddh posted...
Eisenhower or Coolidge.

Was going to say Ford, but his pardon of Nixon argues to the contrary.

Coolidge got blamed for the Depression, Eisenhower had desegregation (for those diehards in the South, at least) and having the CIA set up the shah in Iran.

If you don't consider getting assassinated a controversy, I'd have to say McKinley.

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From: Paratroopa1 | #010
George Washington.

I'm not kidding.

Waitwaitwait.

You think George Washington wasn't controversial?

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whoever that president was who was in the hospital for his entire presidency

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Hmm...Chester A. Arthur, maybe? I don't know, you can't hold an office of any real importance without pissing someone off.

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if you are literally listing a single person at all then you have no grasp of history or just consider "controversial" to mean something different than the definition.

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Lincoln

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dude are you ****ing kidding lincoln was a president so controversial that half the country seceded from the union

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Reagan right after the assassination attempt

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From: OmarsComin | #009
Yeah Clinton wasn't controversial at all...He was only involved in several scandals.

Which apparently did not have much impact on his overall popularity.

that's not what controversial is

the dude was literally almost impeached

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SlymDayspring posted...
dude are you ****ing kidding lincoln was a president so controversial that half the country seceded from the union

Yeah but then when there were 2 Americas Lincoln was cool in America 1

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Yeah but then when there were 2 Americas Lincoln was cool in America 1

LITERALLY was assassinated by a northerner

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Theodore Roosevelt.

If not him, then William Henry Harrison.

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From: TimJab | #034
that's not what controversial is

the dude was literally almost impeached

He WAS impeached. He just wasn't removed from office. They mean two different things.

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I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything particularly bad about Eisenhower...

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Lincoln was definitely the most controversial president ever.

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I'm thinking Teddy.

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Eisenhower feels like the correct response, at least according to the opinions of modern scholars. Still, he was certainly pretty well-liked at the time... 1956 Democrats did view the election as a lost cause, after all.

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Pompidou maybe?

Chirac, De Gaulle, Sarko etc are all controversy magnets, though i reckon had Jospin ever won he might have not been nearly as controversial as the others.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...
I'm thinking Teddy.

=/

He literally had to create his own, new, politcal party because his old one didn't want him to run again.

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A lot of the two term guys had fairly calm and co.troversy free first terms.
Ike was pretty calm, mostly because people eitherLoved him or beelieved he wasn't responsible for much of what his administration did.

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It wasn't Teddy by the way, the majority of his own party hated his guts and it ended up literally Fracturing the republican party.

You can make an argument for Coolidge, being as he had the single most boring presidency and Hoover took the blame for the failures of his policy.

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From: TimJab | #034
that's not what controversial is

the dude was literally almost impeached

was literally impeached

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Eisenhower was very popular amongst dems and repubs at the time

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SantaRPG posted...
probably clinton, if you're only considering politics

if you're considering all-around controversy? uhhh maybe polk? I don't think he did enough to be controversial

I only came in to post this:

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Yeah Clinton wasn't controversial at all...He was only involved in several scandals.

Which apparently did not have much impact on his overall popularity.