Board 8 > Helldivers 2 currently collapsing like no game I've ever seen.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/04/24 8:19:33 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d7504338.jpg

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1786911313559425082

TL;DR, they didn't do anything to the game that's causing this at all, it's just that you have to have a PSN account to play now (which has been stated both on the store page and in game since day 1, but it just now being implemented), and the entire community fucking imploded.

At first I thought these were PC players being annoying and petty about taking 2 minutes to make a PSN account, but it seems there's a significant amount of countries where you actually can't MAKE a PSN account unless you do so through a VPN (for which your PSN account will be banned if it's discovered), essentially rendering the game unplayable.

They're trying to work some extreme damage control right now because apparently this was Sony's decision and the devs didn't get to a say in it, but man.....what a mess.

Anyways I'm mostly just surprised we didn't have a Helldivers General topic considering how popular this game is...maybe was, now.

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skullbone
05/04/24 8:21:39 PM
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Sony xboner of the day

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TheRock1525
05/04/24 8:47:11 PM
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skullbone posted...
Sony xboner of the day

Xsoner

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Xiahou_Shake
05/04/24 8:49:38 PM
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Absolutely astonishing that Sony couldn't just be content to take the win, they just had to fuck it up with modern corpo bullshit. Extra hilarious because this game is legit a dream come true for them (an actually successful, beloved live service game) and they're bungling it with this nonsense that provides literally negative benefit to its players and is solely for boosting internal numbers and satisfying suits and shareholders.

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Sorozone
05/04/24 8:52:23 PM
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Sony execs just want to pump up PSN memberships so they can show growth to their shareholders.

There is absolutely no reason for this to be implemented if it was working just fine prior.

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Kenri
05/04/24 8:58:50 PM
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Sorozone posted...
Sony execs just want to pump up PSN memberships so they can show growth to their shareholders.
I see a lot of people saying this but it's unclear to me how a bunch of new, free accounts that only show playtime for one PC game would even demonstrate growth? Like I can fully believe that they're just braindead stupid but I have to wonder what the (theoretic) logic even is.

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PeaceFrog
05/04/24 9:00:40 PM
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Corporate kpi's don't take that kind of nuance into account. They just take a basic, generic metric and see it go up, then round of applause for everyone.

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Meow1000
05/04/24 9:06:20 PM
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cunningplan.ytmnd.com

When's the last time I linked that site wow

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EightBoarder
05/04/24 9:07:18 PM
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Its just not a real helldive if you dont start with a success before the fall

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SHINE_GET_64
05/04/24 9:11:02 PM
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I for one will be glad to be rid of all those PC players. All they've ever done when I try to play with randoms is kick me for not playing perfectly my first time in a mission type I've never seen before. Only play this game with friends.

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Xiahou_Shake
05/04/24 9:34:49 PM
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That's really weird - my experience playing with randoms has actually been one of the better ones I've had in a game like this. Only Deep Rock Galactic was better and that game is pretty unique in its community vibe.

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Mewtwo59
05/04/24 9:59:20 PM
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Meow1000 posted...
cunningplan.ytmnd.com

When's the last time I linked that site wow

I'm amazed that ytmnd is still up.

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MacArrowny
05/04/24 11:03:07 PM
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The 'outrage' around this is pretty silly, considering how tiny a percentage of players are in markets without PSN (especially since you can make a PSN in other countries, which people like Shuhei Yoshida have encouraged doing), and how the game was announced to require a PSN account from the start, only to disable it due to server issues. Most of the review bombing is from people this won't affect who'll just make an account and move on.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Anyways I'm mostly just surprised we didn't have a Helldivers General topic considering how popular this game is...maybe was, now.
Is there any reason this would hurt popularity on console? It's still huge with PS5 alone.

Sorozone posted...
Sony execs just want to pump up PSN memberships so they can show growth to their shareholders.

There is absolutely no reason for this to be implemented if it was working just fine prior.
It's required for cross-progression, which they still want to implement.

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MZero
05/04/24 11:07:43 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
which has been stated both on the store page and in game since day 1

fair, next

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greengravy294
05/04/24 11:13:57 PM
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Gane is dead fuck I'm only level 16

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Xiahou_Shake
05/04/24 11:18:00 PM
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I was just picking up food at Wing Stop and there was a pack of dudes talking very angrily about this while waiting for their pickup. Can't remember the last time I heard GAMER RAGE out in public!

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BlueCrystalTear
05/04/24 11:27:45 PM
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sounds like it's taking a dive to hell

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Robazoid
05/04/24 11:28:14 PM
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I gave it a negative review on Steam, mostly because I saw the devs themselves ask players to because a clear indicator of the disappointment gives them a bargaining chip with Sony. It's annoying to have to link it to a PSN account, but I'm mostly doing it because it's lame for so many people in other countries to lose access to a game they've been playing fine for months now.

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kevwaffles
05/04/24 11:50:31 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
The 'outrage' around this is pretty silly, considering how tiny a percentage of players are in markets without PSN (especially since you can make a PSN in other countries, which people like Shuhei Yoshida have encouraged doing), and how the game was announced to require a PSN account from the start, only to disable it due to server issues. Most of the review bombing is from people this won't affect who'll just make an account and move on.

One, China is not a tiny percentage.

Two, that solution both requires a VPN and is a violation of Sony's own ToS, which will result in a ban if caught.

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MacArrowny
05/04/24 11:57:31 PM
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kevwaffles posted...
One, China is not a tiny percentage.

Two, that solution both requires a VPN and is a violation of Sony's own ToS, which will result in a ban if caught.
One, Steam is not officially available in China. People who live there are required to use Steam China, which Helldivers 2 is not available on. Every Chinese person playing the game was already breaking local law.

Two, Sony doesn't ban people for making a PSN account in another country.

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Raka_Putra
05/05/24 12:00:12 AM
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Well they reap what they sow(ny).

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kevwaffles
05/05/24 12:18:30 AM
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MacArrowny posted...
One, Steam is not officially available in China. People who live there are required to use Steam China, which Helldivers 2 is not available on. Every Chinese person playing the game was already breaking local law.

Two, Sony doesn't ban people for making a PSN account in another country.

It was an issue of linking the accounts that required a VPN.

But it doesn't matter anyway. They just delisted the game and remove service from ALL effected countries. So no, getting a PSN account in another country is officially not a fix.

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MacArrowny
05/05/24 12:45:39 AM
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kevwaffles posted...
It was an issue of linking the accounts that required a VPN.

But it doesn't matter anyway. They just delisted the game and remove service from ALL effected countries. So no, getting a PSN account in another country is officially not a fix.
Glad to see the review bombing is paying off

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kevwaffles
05/05/24 7:38:02 AM
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https://twitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1787076609188483254

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kevwaffles
05/05/24 8:35:00 AM
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MacArrowny posted...
Glad to see the review bombing is paying off

Steam is issuing refunds to people over the 2 hour limit. So it is paying off in a very literal sense.

https://twitter.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1786830461244719253

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FFDragon
05/05/24 8:58:26 AM
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Wake the fuck up samurai

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kevwaffles
05/05/24 10:07:05 AM
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OK this one's just funny

https://twitter.com/Succinct_Punchy/status/1786941663849460113

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FFDragon
05/05/24 10:46:43 AM
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It's fine, they're only blacklisting small insignificant countries like... *checks notes* Japan.

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WarThaNemesis2
05/05/24 10:51:32 AM
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FFDragon posted...
It's fine, they're only blacklisting small insignificant countries like... *checks notes* Japan.

Sony is also requiring players from Ukraine to purchase a PS4/PS5 to play the game on PC, since they will not allow them to create an account otherwise.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/05/24 10:57:29 AM
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Kenri posted...
I see a lot of people saying this but it's unclear to me how a bunch of new, free accounts that only show playtime for one PC game would even demonstrate growth? Like I can fully believe that they're just braindead stupid but I have to wonder what the (theoretic) logic even is.
Because they aren't shown the intricate details of each membership, just "Hey our membership numbers are up, which means we are doing better than we were."

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/05/24 11:02:27 AM
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kevwaffles posted...
https://twitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1787076609188483254

I mean judging from the follow up question and respose (why sell the game in blacklisted territories -> the developers are not the ones handling sales, Sony is), the subtext here is that the devs doing this was the only thing that made the game actually functional at launch

Insanity

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AriaOfBolo
05/05/24 11:05:32 AM
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as popular as it is, nothing I have ever heard about helldivers has made me want to learn more about helldivers

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Leafeon13N
05/05/24 11:42:00 AM
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AriaOfBolo posted...
as popular as it is, nothing I have ever heard about helldivers has made me want to learn more about helldivers
Its a fun instant gratification game that makes fun of American politics.
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Isquen
05/05/24 11:48:47 AM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Its a fun instant gratification game that makes fun of American politics.

Gee, and you wonder why blocked countries being unable to play it review-bomb it, but [the rest of this post was moderated for being politics outside the Current Events board.]

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Meow1000
05/05/24 11:49:05 AM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
I'm amazed that ytmnd is still up.
I expected it to be dead and forgotten long ago yeah

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MacArrowny
05/05/24 11:52:54 AM
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This might be the end of Sony putting their games on PC considering how big the backlash has been.

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paperwarior
05/05/24 12:04:08 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
This might be the end of Sony putting their games on PC considering how big the backlash has been.
Imagine PC not getting Ghost of Tsushima because some dumbass suits ruined the port of an indie game.
I mean, Tsushima is releasing this month, so it'll be fine. Just replace it with whatever future Sony port.

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Wanglicious
05/05/24 12:15:46 PM
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impressive sony move by sony.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/05/24 12:16:32 PM
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I can feel myself collapsing into my own being with loathing just by bringing up this comparison unprompted, but maybe I just can't help myself;

For all these gooners who have been patting themselves on the back for their little Steller Blade hashtags and petitions against Sony thinking they're achieving something with their whining, the contrast between that complete and total nothingburger culturewar BS and what happens when people ACTUALLY give a shit about something, like what is happening here, is so fucking extreme.

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paperwarior
05/05/24 12:45:11 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I can feel myself collapsing into my own being with loathing just by bringing up this comparison unprompted, but maybe I just can't help myself;

For all these gooners who have been patting themselves on the back for their little Steller Blade hashtags and petitions against Sony thinking they're achieving something with their whining, the contrast between that complete and total nothingburger culturewar BS and what happens when people ACTUALLY give a shit about something, like what is happening here, is so fucking extreme.
I read some Twitter posts related to Helldivers and was pained to see an overlap between the two by someone with presumably no understanding of anything.

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kevwaffles
05/05/24 3:57:48 PM
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Broken clock yada yada

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SHINE_GET_64
05/05/24 4:02:36 PM
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I guess we'll see how it affects Steam numbers when the change goes into effect tomorrow

Past week the game has been averaging about 115K players at peak hours

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Xiahou_Shake
05/05/24 4:06:25 PM
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If I've got this all straight, tomorrow is only the day when new Steam players are affected - seems like anyone who was already playing the game will have until the 30th, by which point I sincerely hope this has been sorted out in a less ridiculous way.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/05/24 4:06:43 PM
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SHINE_GET_64 posted...
I guess we'll see how it affects Steam numbers when the change goes into effect tomorrow

Past week the game has been averaging about 115K players at peak hours

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/123fc8a3.jpg

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kevwaffles
05/05/24 4:07:16 PM
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Also I don't think this affects Sony's plans on non-live service games in the slightest.

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05/05/24 4:40:16 PM
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SHINE_GET_64
05/05/24 4:42:40 PM
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oh no not the United States Minor Outlying Islands

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kevwaffles
05/05/24 8:19:01 PM
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https://twitter.com/BobbyWasabi/status/1787261115933896733

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kevwaffles
05/05/24 8:29:19 PM
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https://twitter.com/HexSay21/status/1787177682129625324

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