Current Events > LGBTQ censorship in Ghostbusters, Jurassic World, and Terminator (SPOILERS)

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FortuneCookie 04/05/24 5:33:35 PM #1:	I finally got around to seeing Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire. I know this is a low bar, but it's the best sequel of the bunch. There's just one thing that bothers me. Egon's granddaughter and a ghost girl strike up a friendship while their eyes, their body language, and their hesitancy to say what they really feel suggests lesbian chemistry. Never do they kiss and never do they confess their feelings. Hold that thought because I want to mention a couple of other movies. In Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, Zia actor Danielle Pineda was upset about the line being cut, "I dont date men, but if I did, it would be you. It would gross me out, but Id do it." It's the most ham-fisted I'm Gay line in the history of cinema, but the fact that it was cut for the international market makes it a matter of censorship. In Terminator: Dark Fate, Grace, the Terminator woman from the future, is clearly in love with Dani. Yet, she dies just before she confesses it. They dance around her motivation for volunteering and her last words are, "I... I...." (The words you were looking for were, "love you.") Fallen Kingdom had a backlash over the censorship. Dark Fate and Frozen Empire seem to have engaged in self-censorship by having obviously gay characters who never get to have their moment where they identify themselves or have any romance. I can only conclude one of two things: 1) The nations we market to with hostile governments to LGBTQ people do not want films that cut out gay kisses. They only want to market films that never had LGBTQ characters to begin with. 2) Studios have caught on to the backlash from censoring films in other countries and have opted instead to remove gayness altogether. You can't censor LGBTQ characters if they aren't LGBTQ to begin with. It's very disheartening. I worry that we're reaching a point where characters in movies aren't going to be allowed to be gay, but you'll be able to see them and their partners happily together on the streaming-exclusive spinoff shows. No same sex relationships in the theaters though. Winnie the Pooh and certain religious leaders would not approve. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979752119] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>I finally got around to seeing Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire. I know this is a low bar, but it's the best sequel of the bunch. There's just one thing that bothers me.Egon's granddaughter and a ghost girl strike up a friendship while their eyes, their body language, and their hesitancy to say what they really feel suggests lesbian chemistry. Never do they kiss and never do they confess their feelings. Hold that thought because I want to mention a couple of other movies.In Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, Zia actor Danielle Pineda was upset about the line being cut, "I dont date men, but if I did, it would be you. It would gross me out, but Id do it." It's the most ham-fisted I'm Gay line in the history of cinema, but the fact that it was cut for the international market makes it a matter of censorship.In Terminator: Dark Fate, Grace, the Terminator woman from the future, is clearly in love with Dani. Yet, she dies just before she confesses it. They dance around her motivation for volunteering and her last words are, "I... I...." (The words you were looking for were, "love you.")Fallen Kingdom had a backlash over the censorship. Dark Fate and Frozen Empire seem to have engaged in self-censorship by having obviously gay characters who never get to have their moment where they identify themselves or have any romance.I can only conclude one of two things:1) The nations we market to with hostile governments to LGBTQ people do not want films that cut out gay kisses. They only want to market films that never had LGBTQ characters to begin with.2) Studios have caught on to the backlash from censoring films in other countries and have opted instead to remove gayness altogether. You can't censor LGBTQ characters if they aren't LGBTQ to begin with.It's very disheartening. I worry that we're reaching a point where characters in movies aren't going to be allowed to be gay, but you'll be able to see them and their partners happily together on the streaming-exclusive spinoff shows. No same sex relationships in the theaters though. Winnie the Pooh and certain religious leaders would not approve.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 04/05/24 5:34:48 PM #2:	Banging ghosts is pretty taboo --- Bees <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:979752135] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Banging ghosts is pretty taboo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 04/05/24 5:35:21 PM #3:	Dakimakura posted... Banging ghosts is pretty taboo Not in the first movie. --- http://imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:979752148] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Banging ghosts is pretty taboo</quote>Not in the first movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnightofShikari 04/05/24 5:36:58 PM #4:	Dakimakura posted... Banging ghosts is pretty taboo it was fine for ray https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWXbrOyqshk --- The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States <cite>KnightofShikari posted [p:979752170] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Banging ghosts is pretty taboo</quote>it was fine for rayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWXbrOyqshk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 04/05/24 5:38:02 PM #5:	A straight male Ghostbuster can get a BJ from a ghost woman. A lesbian Ghostbuster can't even hold hands or share a kiss with her ghost girl "best friend." <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979752188] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>A straight male Ghostbuster can get a BJ from a ghost woman.A lesbian Ghostbuster can't even hold hands or share a kiss with her ghost girl "best friend."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 04/05/24 5:42:48 PM #6:	Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead? --- Bees <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:979752273] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 04/05/24 5:44:41 PM #7:	Dakimakura posted... Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead? I'm not going to be the one to Google, "How many states require a pulse for consent?" <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979752298] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead?</quote>I'm not going to be the one to Google, "How many states require a pulse for consent?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/05/24 5:45:35 PM #8:	Dakimakura posted... Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead? If it's wrong to do it with the dead, it logically follows it's right to do it with the undead. They're opposites! --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979752309] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead?</quote>If it's wrong to do it with the dead, it logically follows it's right to do it with the undead. They're opposites! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/05/24 5:45:54 PM #9:	Yeah despite all the anti-woke crowd BS, it's still far more likely that studios cut queer content to make it palatable for certain audiences/state censors --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979752312] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Yeah despite all the anti-woke crowd BS, it's still far more likely that studios cut queer content to make it palatable for certain audiences/state censors </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 04/05/24 5:47:11 PM #10:	There are plenty of examples of this kind of corporate plug n' play representation but, at least the Ghostbusters and Terminator examples are...not that. This is borderline shipping. --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:979752331] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>There are plenty of examples of this kind of corporate plug n' play representation but, at least the Ghostbusters and Terminator examples are...not that. This is borderline shipping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/05/24 5:47:28 PM #11:	Southernfatman posted... Not in the first movie. That wasn't great . --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:979752337] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>Not in the first movie.</quote>That wasn't great . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scintillant 04/05/24 5:48:19 PM #12:	this is more like queerbaiting than actual censorship --- whats cat up to <cite>Scintillant posted [p:979752346] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>this is more like queerbaiting than actual censorship </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 04/05/24 5:53:27 PM #13:	Sounds like shipping --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:979752409] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like shipping </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 04/05/24 5:54:35 PM #14:	FortuneCookie posted... I'm not going to be the one to Google, "How many states require a pulse for consent?" I wonder how many people out there tried the line; "But their ghost consented!" --- Bees <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:979752420] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>I'm not going to be the one to Google, "How many states require a pulse for consent?"</quote>I wonder how many people out there tried the line; "But their ghost consented!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 04/05/24 5:54:40 PM #15:	Scintillant posted... this is more like queerbaiting than actual censorship That is a form of censorship though. If you, I don't know, tease in the trailer that two women are going to be a couple and then one of them turns out to be the love interest of the male hero, that would be baiting audiences. If you have two men or two women, and they have all of the earmarks of a couple, and they would be a couple if not for a mandate saying that they can't be a couple, that's censorship. It probably wasn't the choice of the director or the screenwriters. It probably wasn't self-censorship. I think they were all on board for having an LGBTQ female lead who saves the world and the producers were like, "Nah." <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979752422] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Scintillant posted... </cite><quote>this is more like queerbaiting than actual censorship</quote>That is a form of censorship though.If you, I don't know, tease in the trailer that two women are going to be a couple and then one of them turns out to be the love interest of the male hero, that would be baiting audiences. If you have two men or two women, and they have all of the earmarks of a couple, and they would be a couple if not for a mandate saying that they can't be a couple, that's censorship.It probably wasn't the choice of the director or the screenwriters. It probably wasn't self-censorship. I think they were all on board for having an LGBTQ female lead who saves the world and the producers were like, "Nah." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 04/05/24 5:54:57 PM #16:	I don't think it was really censored in Frozen Empire. But it was pretty obvious Phoebe had a thing for Melody. Like yeah neither one came out and said how they felt but the look Phoebe's mom and Gary gave Phoebe at least acknowledged it. I immediately picked up on Phoebe and Melody. I wouldn't call it censorship though. --- Michigan Wolverines 30 to Ohio state 24: 11/25/23 Michigan Wolverines Football:15-0 ,Rose Bowl Champions&National Champions <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:979752428] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>I don't think it was really censored in Frozen Empire.But it was pretty obvious Phoebe had a thing for Melody.Like yeah neither one came out and said how they felt but the look Phoebe's mom and Gary gave Phoebe at least acknowledged it.I immediately picked up on Phoebe and Melody.I wouldn't call it censorship though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/05/24 5:55:24 PM #17:	KnightofShikari posted... it was fine for ray https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWXbrOyqshk Well, Ray (if he was around the same age as Aykroyd) was 32. McKenna Grace was 17 when this was filmed (and looked a lot younger). It's partly the same reason they didn't make any references to America Chavez being a lesbian in Multiverse of Madness, because Xochitl Gomez was only 14 when they filmed it. --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979752439] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>KnightofShikari posted... </cite><quote>it was fine for rayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWXbrOyqshk</quote>Well, Ray (if he was around the same age as Aykroyd) was 32. McKenna Grace was 17 when this was filmed (and looked a lot younger).It's partly the same reason they didn't make any references to America Chavez being a lesbian in Multiverse of Madness, because Xochitl Gomez was only 14 when they filmed it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 04/05/24 5:57:39 PM #18:	put final fantasy 13 in this category --- --- <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:979752468] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>put final fantasy 13 in this category </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 04/05/24 5:58:08 PM #19:	They want the preformitive progressive points while having enough deniability to sell their films to a foreign market. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979752475] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>They want the preformitive progressive points while having enough deniability to sell their films to a foreign market. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 04/05/24 5:59:35 PM #20:	creativerealms posted... They want the preformitive progressive points while having enough deniability to sell their films to a foreign market. I like Redlettermedia's term for it: "Passive progressive". --- http://imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:979752495] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>They want the preformitive progressive points while having enough deniability to sell their films to a foreign market.</quote>I like Redlettermedia's term for it: "Passive progressive". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 04/05/24 5:59:35 PM #21:	DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... Well, Ray (if he was around the same age as Aykroyd) was 32. McKenna Grace was 17 when this was filmed (and looked a lot younger). It's partly the same reason they didn't make any references to America Chavez being a lesbian in Multiverse of Madness, because Xochitl Gomez was only 14 when they filmed it. Queer content is not adult content FFS. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:979752496] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... </cite><quote>Well, Ray (if he was around the same age as Aykroyd) was 32. McKenna Grace was 17 when this was filmed (and looked a lot younger).It's partly the same reason they didn't make any references to America Chavez being a lesbian in Multiverse of Madness, because Xochitl Gomez was only 14 when they filmed it.</quote>Queer content is not adult content FFS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 04/05/24 6:01:15 PM #22:	Dakimakura posted... Banging ghosts is pretty taboo <Blazin_Bev has entered the chat> --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979752524] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Banging ghosts is pretty taboo</quote><Blazin_Bev has entered the chat> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 04/05/24 6:03:02 PM #23:	That Jurassic World line should've been cut regardless. Holy cringe. Someone actually wrote that and thought it was clever. The other two I dunno, I haven't seen them to say but it leans towards sounding like shipper complaints to me. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:979752554] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>That Jurassic World line should've been cut regardless. Holy cringe. Someone actually wrote that and thought it was clever.The other two I dunno, I haven't seen them to say but it leans towards sounding like shipper complaints to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/05/24 6:06:34 PM #24:	Sir_Will posted... Queer content is not adult content FFS. You can't possibly not realize that having a gay teenager in a mass-market film is an invitation to that film being ripped to shreds by right-wing media, because something something it's bad for the children. The studios don't want to have to deal with that, so they don't allow it. Simple. --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979752609] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Sir_Will posted... </cite><quote>Queer content is not adult content FFS.</quote>You can't possibly not realize that having a gay teenager in a mass-market film is an invitation to that film being ripped to shreds by right-wing media, because something something it's bad for the children.The studios don't want to have to deal with that, so they don't allow it. Simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 04/05/24 6:18:21 PM #25:	DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... Well, Ray (if he was around the same age as Aykroyd) was 32. McKenna Grace was 17 when this was filmed (and looked a lot younger). It's partly the same reason they didn't make any references to America Chavez being a lesbian in Multiverse of Madness, because Xochitl Gomez was only 14 when they filmed it. Okay, Disney, why is it bad for a 14-year-old to be a lesbian? I know they've had gay kids in Owl House. A boy and a girl can hold hands, share a quick kiss, or express their feelings for one another and nobody accuses the filmmakers of any wrongdoing. But if a character is homosexual, that's homoSEXUALITY -- which is inherently more sexual than heterosexuality. For some reason. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979752754] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... </cite><quote>Well, Ray (if he was around the same age as Aykroyd) was 32. McKenna Grace was 17 when this was filmed (and looked a lot younger).It's partly the same reason they didn't make any references to America Chavez being a lesbian in Multiverse of Madness, because Xochitl Gomez was only 14 when they filmed it.</quote>Okay, Disney, why is it bad for a 14-year-old to be a lesbian? I know they've had gay kids in Owl House.A boy and a girl can hold hands, share a quick kiss, or express their feelings for one another and nobody accuses the filmmakers of any wrongdoing. But if a character is homosexual, that's homoSEXUALITY -- which is inherently more sexual than heterosexuality. For some reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 04/05/24 6:19:47 PM #26:	What about marvel censoring the Tessa Thompson lesbian scene --- Italian, French, German. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:979752774] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>What about marvel censoring the Tessa Thompson lesbian scene </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 04/05/24 6:21:27 PM #27:	SauI_Goodman posted... What about marvel censoring the Tessa Thompson lesbian scene I haven't kept up on the MCU. I'm sure there are several other examples that I'm missing. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979752792] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>SauI_Goodman posted... </cite><quote>What about marvel censoring the Tessa Thompson lesbian scene</quote>I haven't kept up on the MCU. I'm sure there are several other examples that I'm missing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/05/24 6:27:29 PM #28:	FortuneCookie posted... Okay, Disney, why is it bad for a 14-year-old to be a lesbian? I know they've had gay kids in Owl House. A boy and a girl can hold hands, share a quick kiss, or express their feelings for one another and nobody accuses the filmmakers of any wrongdoing. But if a character is homosexual, that's homoSEXUALITY -- which is inherently more sexual than heterosexuality. For some reason. Personally, I don't think it's bad. But as I stated above, they know that Fox News and the right wing will screech about it, and that will cost them money, and they can't have that. --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979752893] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>Okay, Disney, why is it bad for a 14-year-old to be a lesbian? I know they've had gay kids in Owl House.A boy and a girl can hold hands, share a quick kiss, or express their feelings for one another and nobody accuses the filmmakers of any wrongdoing. But if a character is homosexual, that's homoSEXUALITY -- which is inherently more sexual than heterosexuality. For some reason.</quote>Personally, I don't think it's bad. But as I stated above, they know that Fox News and the right wing will screech about it, and that will cost them money, and they can't have that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 04/05/24 6:38:10 PM #29:	DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... Personally, I don't think it's bad. But as I stated above, they know that Fox News and the right wing will screech about it, and that will cost them money, and they can't have that. Sorry. I wasn't attacking you. When I said "Okay, Disney" I was trying to make it clear that my problem was with them. I know you weren't taking that stance. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979753014] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... </cite><quote>Personally, I don't think it's bad. But as I stated above, they know that Fox News and the right wing will screech about it, and that will cost them money, and they can't have that.</quote>Sorry. I wasn't attacking you. When I said "Okay, Disney" I was trying to make it clear that my problem was with them. I know you weren't taking that stance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 04/05/24 6:43:14 PM #30:	FortuneCookie posted... Okay, Disney, why is it bad for a 14-year-old to be a lesbian? I know they've had gay kids in Owl House. A boy and a girl can hold hands, share a quick kiss, or express their feelings for one another and nobody accuses the filmmakers of any wrongdoing. But if a character is homosexual, that's homoSEXUALITY -- which is inherently more sexual than heterosexuality. For some reason. Yeah it is annoying. Of course when you ask a conservative whose trying to ban any book with LGBT characters that simple question. They have no answer. It should be no different if a heterosexual couple kiss and a gay couple and yet to countless people they think ones okay and the other is unsuitable for kids. For all the talk of how woke our media is, it really isn't. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979753096] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>Okay, Disney, why is it bad for a 14-year-old to be a lesbian? I know they've had gay kids in Owl House.A boy and a girl can hold hands, share a quick kiss, or express their feelings for one another and nobody accuses the filmmakers of any wrongdoing. But if a character is homosexual, that's homoSEXUALITY -- which is inherently more sexual than heterosexuality. For some reason.</quote>Yeah it is annoying. Of course when you ask a conservative whose trying to ban any book with LGBT characters that simple question. They have no answer. It should be no different if a heterosexual couple kiss and a gay couple and yet to countless people they think ones okay and the other is unsuitable for kids.For all the talk of how woke our media is, it really isn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 04/05/24 6:48:55 PM #31:	FortuneCookie posted... Okay, Disney, why is it bad for a 14-year-old to be a lesbian? I know they've had gay kids in Owl House. To be fair, they did drop Owl House, saying that it didn't fit for the Disney brand. Shame, because it was a fantastic show. I hope stuff like this stops as younger generations start take over these companies. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979753195] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>Okay, Disney, why is it bad for a 14-year-old to be a lesbian? I know they've had gay kids in Owl House.</quote>To be fair, they did drop Owl House, saying that it didn't fit for the Disney brand. Shame, because it was a fantastic show. I hope stuff like this stops as younger generations start take over these companies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/05/24 7:09:00 PM #32:	FortuneCookie posted... Sorry. I wasn't attacking you. When I said "Okay, Disney" I was trying to make it clear that my problem was with them. I know you weren't taking that stance. NP, I didn't think you were. Just observing that it's almost always about the money. A corollary to that is "Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence." ^_^ NoxObscuras posted... To be fair, they did drop Owl House, saying that it didn't fit for the Disney brand. Shame, because it was a fantastic show. I hope stuff like this stops as younger generations start take over these companies. Yeah, they want "drop-in/drop-out" stuff, not well--written, story-heavy shows. --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979753525] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>Sorry. I wasn't attacking you. When I said "Okay, Disney" I was trying to make it clear that my problem was with them. I know you weren't taking that stance.</quote>NP, I didn't think you were. Just observing that it's almost always about the money. A corollary to that is "Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence." ^_^NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>To be fair, they did drop Owl House, saying that it didn't fit for the Disney brand. Shame, because it was a fantastic show. I hope stuff like this stops as younger generations start take over these companies.</quote>Yeah, they want "drop-in/drop-out" stuff, not well--written, story-heavy shows. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain_S_Fiend 04/05/24 7:12:22 PM #33:	Dakimakura posted... Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead? Ghosts aren't the same as the undead. --- The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself. <cite>Villain_S_Fiend posted [p:979753572] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead?</quote>Ghosts aren't the same as the undead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 04/05/24 7:24:13 PM #34:	Dakimakura posted... Banging ghosts is pretty taboo Only if you're human, apparently it's fine if it's a ghost and a horse. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:979753775] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Banging ghosts is pretty taboo</quote>Only if you're human, apparently it's fine if it's a ghost and a horse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/05/24 7:24:15 PM #35:	Villain_S_Fiend posted... Ghosts aren't the same as the undead. What --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979753776] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Villain_S_Fiend posted... </cite><quote>Ghosts aren't the same as the undead.</quote>What </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/05/24 7:32:37 PM #36:	Tyranthraxus posted... What "Undead" typically means things like vampires or zombies, which still have physical bodies. --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979753920] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>What</quote>"Undead" typically means things like vampires or zombies, which still have physical bodies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 04/05/24 7:40:36 PM #37:	DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... "Undead" typically means things like vampires or zombies, which still have physical bodies. And how do you have sex with something that has no physical representation? --- Bees <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:979754040] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... </cite><quote>"Undead" typically means things like vampires or zombies, which still have physical bodies.</quote>And how do you have sex with something that has no physical representation? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/05/24 7:42:03 PM #38:	Dakimakura posted... And how do you have sex with something that has no physical representation? If ghosts are some kind of energy, then that could conceivably...interact with a human body's bioelectric nervous system. ;) --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979754065] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>And how do you have sex with something that has no physical representation?</quote>If ghosts are some kind of energy, then that could conceivably...interact with a human body's bioelectric nervous system. ;) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 04/05/24 7:42:58 PM #39:	I thought it was pretty easy to tell that Zia was gay in JW. Especially with the "almost kiss after saving my life" scene. I wonder if that's where these lines were cut from? she was a good character though, I hope they bring her back in later movies. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:979754081] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>I thought it was pretty easy to tell that Zia was gay in JW. Especially with the "almost kiss after saving my life" scene. I wonder if that's where these lines were cut from?she was a good character though, I hope they bring her back in later movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 04/05/24 7:43:30 PM #40:	Dakimakura posted... And how do you have sex with something that has no physical representation? you ever watch The Shining? --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:979754097] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>And how do you have sex with something that has no physical representation?</quote>you ever watch The Shining? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/05/24 7:43:44 PM #41:	Dakimakura posted... And how do you have sex with something that has no physical representation? If slimer can eat Cheetos off the floor I'm sure we can figure something out --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979754101] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>And how do you have sex with something that has no physical representation?</quote>If slimer can eat Cheetos off the floor I'm sure we can figure something out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link_of_time 04/05/24 7:51:00 PM #42:	I legit don't remember any romantic chemistry in Terminator: Dark Fate. The movie was already a really hamfisted feminism woke movie, so i'm not sure why they would feel the need to censor a possible gay romance. Haven't seen the latest Ghostbusters, but everyone already knew the character was gonna be gay when the trailer dropped for the last movie. <cite>Link_of_time posted [p:979754194] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>I legit don't remember any romantic chemistry in Terminator: Dark Fate. The movie was already a really hamfisted feminism woke movie, so i'm not sure why they would feel the need to censor a possible gay romance. Haven't seen the latest Ghostbusters, but everyone already knew the character was gonna be gay when the trailer dropped for the last movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 04/05/24 7:51:57 PM #43:	Link_of_time posted... really hamfisted feminism woke movie, I think that's a Bingo. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979754211] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Link_of_time posted... </cite><quote>really hamfisted feminism woke movie,</quote>I think that's a Bingo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 04/05/24 7:59:33 PM #44:	Disney sort of wants it both ways with some of their shows. It's why the creator of Gravity Falls had to repeatedly insist that the two cops were just really, really, really good friends that shared their lives with each other when making the show, even as Disney later advertised the characters as being LGBTQ friendly. Meanwhile, with The Owl House the show was dropped mostly by one executive under the pretext of wanting thought-free episodic content. It's weird because the first season has an amazing ramp up from episode to episode, to the point that even some random executive SHOULD be able to sense the building excitement over the show. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:979754314] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Disney sort of wants it both ways with some of their shows. It's why the creator of Gravity Falls had to repeatedly insist that the two cops were just really, really, really good friends that shared their lives with each other when making the show, even as Disney later advertised the characters as being LGBTQ friendly. Meanwhile, with The Owl House the show was dropped mostly by one executive under the pretext of wanting thought-free episodic content. It's weird because the first season has an amazing ramp up from episode to episode, to the point that even some random executive SHOULD be able to sense the building excitement over the show. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 04/05/24 10:42:50 PM #45:	thronedfire2 posted... I thought it was pretty easy to tell that Zia was gay in JW. Especially with the "almost kiss after saving my life" scene. I wonder if that's where these lines were cut from? she was a good character though, I hope they bring her back in later movies. There's a really abrupt cut after Franklin rescues Zia. She starts to squeeze his cheeks, then it just moves on to the next shot. I thought that's where she was supposed to have said the line, but Danielle Pineda said in an interview that the line was supposed to be in reference to Chris Pratt as Owen. So, maybe there was another line that was cut. Or maybe they cut something else as well. DuneMan posted... Disney sort of wants it both ways with some of their shows. It's why the creator of Gravity Falls had to repeatedly insist that the two cops were just really, really, really good friends that shared their lives with each other when making the show, even as Disney later advertised the characters as being LGBTQ friendly. That sounds like Disney. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979757001] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>I thought it was pretty easy to tell that Zia was gay in JW. Especially with the "almost kiss after saving my life" scene. I wonder if that's where these lines were cut from?she was a good character though, I hope they bring her back in later movies.</quote>There's a really abrupt cut after Franklin rescues Zia. She starts to squeeze his cheeks, then it just moves on to the next shot. I thought that's where she was supposed to have said the line, but Danielle Pineda said in an interview that the line was supposed to be in reference to Chris Pratt as Owen. So, maybe there was another line that was cut. Or maybe they cut something else as well.DuneMan posted... </cite><quote>Disney sort of wants it both ways with some of their shows. It's why the creator of Gravity Falls had to repeatedly insist that the two cops were just really, really, really good friends that shared their lives with each other when making the show, even as Disney later advertised the characters as being LGBTQ friendly.</quote>That sounds like Disney.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 04/05/24 11:02:41 PM #46:	Dakimakura posted... Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead? If they won't, I will. I'd fuck the fuck out of Kayako Saeki --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:979757313] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite><quote>Are you guys saying you are in favor of having sex with the undead?</quote>If they won't, I will. I'd fuck the fuck out of Kayako Saeki </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DemonicChaosXX 04/05/24 11:45:33 PM #47:	Imagine thinking that people of the same sex can't be friends. No they HAVE to be gay! --- It's a point and click adventure where the only action is "use gun" on "man". <cite>DemonicChaosXX posted [p:979757894] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Imagine thinking that people of the same sex can't be friends. No they HAVE to be gay! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/05/24 11:46:48 PM #48:	DemonicChaosXX posted... Imagine thinking that people of the same sex can't be friends. No they HAVE to be gay! If you watch the movie it's obvious they are totally gay. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979757907] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>DemonicChaosXX posted... </cite><quote>Imagine thinking that people of the same sex can't be friends. No they HAVE to be gay!</quote>If you watch the movie it's obvious they are totally gay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 04/05/24 11:51:24 PM #49:	DuneMan posted... Meanwhile, with The Owl House the show was dropped mostly by one executive under the pretext of wanting thought-free episodic content. It's weird because the first season has an amazing ramp up from episode to episode, to the point that even some random executive SHOULD be able to sense the building excitement over the show. And that pretext is bogus. Luz (Owl House spoilers) ~~finally kisses Amity near the end of season 2 and suddenly the exec only wants episodic shows? The timing was too suspicious~~ --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979757957] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>DuneMan posted... </cite><quote>Meanwhile, with The Owl House the show was dropped mostly by one executive under the pretext of wanting thought-free episodic content. It's weird because the first season has an amazing ramp up from episode to episode, to the point that even some random executive SHOULD be able to sense the building excitement over the show.</quote>And that pretext is bogus. Luz (Owl House spoilers) finally kisses Amity near the end of season 2 and suddenly the exec only wants episodic shows? The timing was too suspicious </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 04/05/24 11:52:14 PM #50:	Southernfatman posted... I like Redlettermedia's term for it: "Passive progressive". --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:979757972] in LGBTQ cens... [t:80739940]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>I like Redlettermedia's term for it: "Passive progressive".</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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