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CableZL
04/04/24 7:41:39 PM
#401:


https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1776029985540616240

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EPR-radar
04/04/24 7:43:24 PM
#402:


008Zulu posted...
Jack Smith has run out of fucks to give.
I really hope the DOJ has a wiretap or the like on Cannon. She's too stupid to fuck things up for Trump "properly" on her own, so she must be getting extensive coaching from more intelligent GOP ratfuckers.

I'd love to see Smith go the appeals court with transcripts of that shit in hand.

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Tyranthraxus
04/04/24 8:58:15 PM
#403:


At this point I don't think Cannon is trying to get Trump off the hook. She knows she can't, even in her most insane "interpretations" of the law she can't do it. All she's trying to do is delay this trial until 2025.

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CSCA33
04/04/24 8:59:22 PM
#404:


So, the $175 million bond wasnt actually paid? Theyre just like yep, this insurance guarantee will cover it if he loses on appeal? Seems sketch.

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Amakusa
04/04/24 9:18:14 PM
#405:


CSCA33 posted...
So, the $175 million bond wasnt actually paid? Theyre just like yep, this insurance guarantee will cover it if he loses on appeal? Seems sketch.
At the moment it seems whoever is providing the $175 million can't actually produce the $175 million to the state's satisfaction (or maybe even at all)

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Tyranthraxus
04/04/24 9:19:04 PM
#406:


Dude literally fucking tried to post IOUs for bail

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thronedfire2
04/04/24 9:22:52 PM
#407:


CSCA33 posted...
So, the $175 million bond wasnt actually paid? Theyre just like yep, this insurance guarantee will cover it if he loses on appeal? Seems sketch.

he put Mar A Lago's $1.5 billion value up against it

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mystic_belmont
04/04/24 9:29:53 PM
#408:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Dude literally fucking tried to post IOUs for bail

This is pretty funny.

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Takuya_Lee
04/04/24 9:44:41 PM
#409:


mystic_belmont posted...
This is pretty funny.

Funny for us. The judge, not so much.

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CSCA33
04/04/24 9:47:49 PM
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A web of lies isnt going to cover $175 mil, they need that shit collateralized

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derp420
04/04/24 9:50:53 PM
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CSCA33 posted...
A web of lies isnt going to cover $175 mil, they need that shit collateralized
"But that's all we're good at!"

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008Zulu
04/04/24 10:21:12 PM
#412:


Amakusa posted...
At the moment it seems whoever is providing the $175 million can't actually produce the $175 million to the state's satisfaction (or maybe even at all)
Only a few days left on that isn't there?

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Takuya_Lee
04/04/24 10:26:21 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Only a few days left on that isn't there?

I think tomorrow is the 10 day deadline.

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GTA1984
04/05/24 12:49:42 AM
#414:


Tyranthraxus posted...
At this point I don't think Cannon is trying pto get Trump off the hook. She knows she can't, even in her most insane "interpretations" of the law she can't do it. All she's trying to do is delay this trial until 2025.

Actually the move I could see her making is dismissing charges after there is a jury. Once you have the jury the defendant is considered to be in jeopardy. Once someone has been in jeopardy for a crime and has gotten out of it whether it be by acquittal or the judge dismissing charges, they can never be charged for said crimes again. Also there would be no opportunity for appeal.

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Tyranthraxus
04/05/24 12:52:59 AM
#415:


GTA1984 posted...
Actually the move I could see her making is dismissing charges after there is a jury. Once you have the jury the defendant is considered to be in jeopardy. Once someone has been in jeopardy for a crime and has gotten out of it whether it be by acquittal or the judge dismissing charges, they can never be charged for said crimes again. Also there would be no opportunity for appeal.

Oh you can definitely appeal that. The only thing you can't appeal is a jury delivered not guilty verdict.

Edit: and you can even appeal that too if you feel there was judicial misconduct

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tremain07
04/05/24 6:57:23 AM
#416:


I still feel like Cannon is doing this as a signal to the Republicans that the next time there's a supreme court seat open she'd like to have it and she's proven she's loyal to Republicans that she'll do whatever they want regardless of how bad it looks, she'll gladly be a bought and corrupt judge for Republicans even fi she's not getting paid. The desperation is disgusting and worst thing about it is I can see her being on the federalist society's short list for a seat because of it because those traitors and their Project 2025 shit definitely want more judges like her in as many high levels of government as possible

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divot1338
04/05/24 7:27:22 AM
#417:


With Cannon its a combination of her making partisan rulings and general incompetence.

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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 8:17:38 AM
#418:


https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-york-ag-questions-if-dollar175-million-bond-insurer-can-save-trump

But just before the new paperwork was filed, Knight Specialty Insurance president Amit Shah told CBS that the company has a novel theory as to why the state capital requirements dont apply to their firm: because Knight Insurance isnt even registered to operate as a surety in New York.

One problem with that theory:

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cvp/article-25/2502/

2502. Surety; form of affidavit; two or more undertakings; condition; acknowledgment. (a) Surety; form of affidavit. Unless the court orders otherwise, surety shall be: 1. an insurance company authorized to execute the undertaking within the state, or 2. a natural person, except an attorney, who shall execute with the undertaking his affidavit setting forth his full name and address and that he is domiciled within the state and worth at least the amount specified in the undertaking exclusive of liabilities and of property exempt from application to the satisfaction of a judgment.

So the company says it's okay since we aren't bonded in New York, yet New York requires them to be.

So, good luck.

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littlebro07
04/05/24 8:24:08 AM
#419:


lmao

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Tyranthraxus
04/05/24 8:34:35 AM
#420:


mystic_belmont posted...
the company has a novel theory as to why the state capital requirements dont apply to their firm: because Knight Insurance isnt even registered to operate as a surety in New York.

On brand with all the other legal theories Trump has tried to push.

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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 8:39:56 AM
#421:


"You can't give me a ticket officer, I don't even have a license to drive."

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TimeForAction
04/05/24 8:42:19 AM
#422:


mystic_belmont posted...
"You can't give me a ticket officer, I don't even have a license to drive."

sovcits unironically make this argument
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Takuya_Lee
04/05/24 8:46:18 AM
#423:


Tyranthraxus posted...
On brand with all the other legal theories Trump has tried to push.

Yeah this "theory" seems like a surefire way to get the bond rejected.

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darkace77450
04/05/24 8:47:38 AM
#424:


https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-be-deposed-dispute-with-media-company-co-founders-2024-04-04/

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is scheduled to be deposed later this month by lawyers for co-founders of his social media company as part of a dispute over ownership in Trump Media & Technology Group (DJT.O), which went public last week.

A notice filed with Delaware's Court of Chancery, where the co-founders sued Trump Media, said the deposition is scheduled for April 15 at 10 am ET (1400 GMT) in New York, which is also the scheduled start of Trump's first criminal trial.

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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 8:48:41 AM
#425:


So bonds issued in NY can not exceed a company's liquid assets by 10%. This bond exceeds their liquid assets by more than 120%.

Hey, I have a great Idea, just inflate the company's liquid assets.

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toreysback
04/05/24 8:49:47 AM
#426:


mystic_belmont posted...
Hey, I have a great Idea, just inflate the company's liquid assets.

give them a 1% holding in maralago, and suddenly they are worth billions

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TomClark
04/05/24 9:05:48 AM
#427:


So, if I'm reading this right, Team Trump offered up the bond via a company that does not have the money to pay it, and that legally cannot put up bonds in New York. And while doing so they also filled out the forms wrong and didn't submit the required paperwork.

A more cynical person might suggest that this looks like it was done just so that Donnie could either delay again, or hide his embarrassment at not being able to pay the bond by manufacturing a claim that he isn't too broke to pay the bond and that the Crooked Judge is rejecting his perfect Bond because of a Witch Hunt, or both.

But a less cynical person could also suggest that his team really might just be that stupid.

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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 9:06:41 AM
#428:


Guess where Knight Specialty, the company trying to issue the bond, is licensed in:

https://www.knightinsurancegroup.com/

Licensed and regulated by the Cayman Islands Monetary Authority as a class Biii insurer


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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 9:07:27 AM
#429:


TomClark posted...
So, if I'm reading this right, Team Trump offered up the bond via a company that does not have the money to pay it, and that legally cannot put up bonds in New York. And while doing so they also filled out the forms wrong and didn't submit the required paperwork.

A more cynical person might suggest that this looks like it was done just so that Donnie could either delay again, or hide his embarrassment at not being able to pay the bond by manufacturing a claim that he isn't too broke to pay the bond and that the Crooked Judge is rejecting his perfect Bond because of a Witch Hunt, or both.

But a less cynical person could also suggest that his team really might just be that stupid.

The interest builds up every day, but it does delay NY from seizing assets.

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Takuya_Lee
04/05/24 9:39:38 AM
#430:


mystic_belmont posted...
Guess where Knight Specialty, the company trying to issue the bond, is licensed in:

https://www.knightinsurancegroup.com/

*Breaks out into hysterical laughter*

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Bishop9800
04/05/24 10:02:07 AM
#431:


TomClark posted...
So, if I'm reading this right, Team Trump offered up the bond via a company that does not have the money to pay it, and that legally cannot put up bonds in New York. And while doing so they also filled out the forms wrong and didn't submit the required paperwork.



Wow. Just wow.

I guess the moving vans are coming........


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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 10:04:37 AM
#432:


Bishop9800 posted...
Wow. Just wow.

I guess the moving vans are coming........

NY gave Trump 10 days to correct.

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Bishop9800
04/05/24 10:05:43 AM
#433:


mystic_belmont posted...
NY gave Trump 10 days to correct.

So another delay tactic........

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ZMythos
04/05/24 10:08:26 AM
#435:


I almost pity those lawyers. Their weaponized incompetence, whether or not it's genuine, will cost them their entire careers once this is over, AND you know for a fact Trump won't pay them for it either.

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Takuya_Lee
04/05/24 10:08:53 AM
#436:


Bishop9800 posted...
So another delay tactic........

I think this is just sheer incompetence that helped him luck into another delay.

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divot1338
04/05/24 10:10:05 AM
#437:


A notice filed with Delaware's Court of Chancery
I cannot think of a better name for a court that would adjuciate Donald Trumps shennanigans.

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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 10:10:50 AM
#438:


Bishop9800 posted...
So another delay tactic........

It's NY making sure they are getting their money. As much fun as it would seem to seize real estate, it's hard to sell it.

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Bishop9800
04/05/24 10:13:32 AM
#439:


mystic_belmont posted...
It's NY making sure they are getting their money. As much fun as it would seem to seize real estate, it's hard to sell it.

True, but I do think his property would sell fast. In fact, I'll bet Musk would buy Trump Tower for his ego trip.

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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 10:21:33 AM
#440:


Bishop9800 posted...
True, but I do think his property would sell fast. In fact, I'll bet Musk would buy Trump Tower for his ego trip.

That is if they aren't over-leveraged.

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Cemith
04/05/24 10:28:41 AM
#441:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


God I hate it here.

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CableZL
04/05/24 10:30:26 AM
#442:


https://twitter.com/sfoguj/status/1776249865879842885

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mystic_belmont
04/05/24 10:31:34 AM
#443:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/sfoguj/status/1776249865879842885

Love it.

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Takuya_Lee
04/05/24 10:39:24 AM
#444:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/sfoguj/status/1776249865879842885

I like the use of the parentheses in this.

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TimeForAction
04/05/24 10:42:06 AM
#446:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/sfoguj/status/1776249865879842885

more power to them, they saw their chance and took it
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Cemith
04/05/24 10:43:58 AM
#447:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


As depressing as that may be to think, I would hope them turning in their radical ex-spouses would hopefully be the wake up call they needed.

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CableZL
04/05/24 10:49:51 AM
#448:


Cemith posted...
As depressing as that may be to think, I would hope them turning in their radical ex-spouses would hopefully be the wake up call they needed.

Melania needs to step her game up in this regard as well

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texanfan27
04/05/24 11:07:25 AM
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So did trump post bond or they seizing stuff yet?

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