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HylianFox
03/24/24 10:13:41 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/floridas-senate-passes-bill-block-local-regulations-protecting-workers-rcna142021

Florida Senate passes bill blocking local rules protecting workers from heat

Floridas Senate on Tuesday approved a bill that would ban cities and counties from adopting requirements for mandatory water breaks and other workplace protections against extreme heat.

The Republican-controlled Senate voted 28-11, along party lines, to pass Senate Bill 1492, which would prohibit local governments from determining workplace heat standards that go beyond those required by federal law. In effect, the bill would strip cities and counties of the ability to require water breaks for workers and time to rest in the shade throughout the day.

The state legislation comes after the planet notched its hottest year in recorded history in 2023. Nearly the entire southern part of the U.S. last summer suffered weeks on end of oppressive humidity and triple-digit temperatures in a series of long-lasting heat waves that climate scientists said were intensified by global warming.

Supporters of Senate Bill 1492 said the measure will help establish uniform regulations, rather than having rules applied inconsistently across the state.

But labor organizations have said workplace heat standards are necessary to keep people safe, particularly for individuals who work in construction, agriculture and other industries that require them to be outside.

Similar legislation was passed last year in Texas, as part of a state law that limited local governments from, among other things, establishing ordinances for mandatory water breaks and time in the shade for outdoor workers.

Heat causes more deaths in the U.S. each year than any other weather event, according to the National Weather Service, and outdoor workers are among those most vulnerable to heat-related illness and death when temperatures spike.

In addition to water and shade breaks, the local heat protections banned under Senate Bill 1492 would include heat-exposure training programs, protections for employees who report issues related to excessive heat exposure and record-keeping requirements related to heat exposure.

Under the state legislation, businesses would follow general rules set by the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration. While the agency recognizes extreme heat as a workplace hazard, OSHA has not yet issued specific federal rules to protect workers from dangerously high temperatures.

The bill awaits final approval in the House before heading to Gov. Ron DeSantis. If signed into law, it would take effect July 1

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ironman2009
03/24/24 10:14:33 PM
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that's fuckin insane

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AbsolutelyNoOne
03/24/24 10:15:32 PM
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Deathsantis strikes again

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Xatrion
03/24/24 10:16:05 PM
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HylianFox posted...
While the agency recognizes extreme heat as a workplace hazard, OSHA has not yet issued specific federal rules to protect workers from dangerously high temperatures.

Gee willikers, mister. I do wonder what kind of precautions we can take to safeguard our workers from extreme heat? Maybe, just maybe, a fucking water break?


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VeesMcGees
03/24/24 10:16:36 PM
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They probably use prison labor.
And those prisoners should recreate their worst crimes on all those who voted for this bill and those who enforce it.
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Lonestar2000
03/24/24 10:19:55 PM
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Isn't their economy already tanking from banning undocumented immigrants from working?

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wackyteen
03/24/24 10:21:19 PM
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HylianFox posted...
which would prohibit local governments from determining workplace heat standards that go beyond those required by federal law.


https://www.wrshlaw.com/blog/construction-accident/texas-ending-its-worksite-water-break-rules-was-a-bad-idea/

Federal regulations require employers to provide access to drinkable water, but there are no specific OSHA guidelines on how often employees must be provided with water breaks.

OSHA doesnt have a minimum water break rule, and federal regulations are vague, only stating that employers must allow workers reasonable opportunities to drink water during their shifts.

HMMMMMMMM....

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wackyteen
03/24/24 10:22:37 PM
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this is isn't even good business.

These laws make absolutely no sense.

You want a hydrated workforce. They do better work.

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Jiek_Fafn
03/24/24 10:23:02 PM
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wackyteen posted...
https://www.wrshlaw.com/blog/construction-accident/texas-ending-its-worksite-water-break-rules-was-a-bad-idea/

Federal regulations require employers to provide access to drinkable water, but there are no specific OSHA guidelines on how often employees must be provided with water breaks.

OSHA doesnt have a minimum water break rule, and federal regulations are vague, only stating that employers must allow workers reasonable opportunities to drink water during their shifts.

HMMMMMMMM....
This means anyone not in a union is fucked

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TyVulpine
03/24/24 10:24:36 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
This means anyone not in a union is fucked
And that's probably next on the list, since Republicans are openly anti-union.

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LonelyStoner
03/24/24 10:25:06 PM
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How is DeSantis still employed?

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TheGoldenEel
03/24/24 10:26:13 PM
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Party of small government at it again


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PMarth2002
03/24/24 10:28:21 PM
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Every one of these senators who signed this bill should be fired into the sun.

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LonelyStoner
03/24/24 10:38:20 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Every one of these senators who signed this bill should be fired into the sun.
Fair

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Umbreon
03/24/24 10:44:26 PM
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One day, the people who push these laws will find themselves in a far hotter place. Then they can experience not having water.

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Heineken14
03/24/24 10:45:50 PM
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Didn't Texas do this last year and then like, immediately you saw stories of people dying of heat stroke when summer rolled around?

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cjsdowg
03/24/24 10:46:29 PM
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FL keeps voting for these people so for the people who voted R no sympathy for the people who didn't vote for these assholes I feel bad for them.

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KnightofShikari
03/24/24 10:47:44 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Every one of these senators who signed this bill should be fired into the sun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdtJvVgIG9Y

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Euripides
03/24/24 10:48:11 PM
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wackyteen posted...
this is isn't even good business.

These laws make absolutely no sense.

You want a hydrated workforce. They do better work.

They ain't working if they're drinking, amirite?

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Rika_Furude
03/24/24 10:49:41 PM
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So, when someone dies from this, can republican politicians be held accountable for murder? Because theres no way anyone with a functioning brain would pass this without knowing its going to cause great harm or death to someone

also, when will Republican voters be held accountable for damage and death?
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LonelyStoner
03/24/24 10:50:51 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
So, when someone dies from this, can republican politicians be held accountable for murder? Because theres no way anyone with a functioning brain would pass this without knowing its going to cause great harm or death to someone
Any pro-bono lawyer would jump at this chance.

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wackyteen
03/24/24 10:51:18 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
So, when someone dies from this, can republican politicians be held accountable for murder? Because theres no way anyone with a functioning brain would pass this without knowing its going to cause great harm or death to someone
"we never said you couldn't give them water! Just that cities can't mandate you to do so!"

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El_Marsh
03/24/24 10:51:56 PM
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Somebody should really kick Florida's ass

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Umbreon
03/24/24 10:52:11 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
So, when someone dies from this, can republican politicians be held accountable for murder?

Not legally.


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littlebro07
03/24/24 10:52:37 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
So, when someone dies from this, can republican politicians be held accountable for murder? Because theres no way anyone with a functioning brain would pass this without knowing its going to cause great harm or death to someone

also, when will Republican voters be held accountable for damage and death?

Republicans being held accountable for their awfulness? You must have us confused for an actual developed nation and not the third world shithole we truly are


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ReiRei89
03/24/24 10:52:56 PM
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Our resident deplorables will defend this.

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Nirvanas_Nox
03/24/24 10:54:53 PM
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Living in Florida is a death sentence. Leave while you can.

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LightHawKnight
03/24/24 10:56:27 PM
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Really dont get how idiots get in charge of stuff, it is just nepotism? I mean any good businessman should know a fed, hydrated, happy worker, works far far harder than a starving, dehyrdated, suffering worker. Also a well paid worker, will put that money back into the economy, which means more money all around.

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Rika_Furude
03/24/24 10:58:45 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Really dont get how idiots get in charge of stuff, it is just nepotism? I mean any good businessman should know a fed, hydrated, happy worker, works far far harder than a starving, dehyrdated, suffering worker. Also a well paid worker, will put that money back into the economy, which means more money all around.
I think that latter one is more of a prisoners dilemma. If other companies pay their employees well, its good for me. But I can get away with paying my employees lower which is also good for me
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FortuneCookie
03/24/24 11:09:56 PM
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Employer: Remember, if you "have a health condition and need water," you can be replaced.

Employee: "But that's against the law."

Employer: "We'll change that one too."

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legendary_zell
03/24/24 11:27:44 PM
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These people want ABSOLUTE power for capital. And anyone higher up in a hierarchy than others in general.

They take the idea that there should be limits on the power of social/economic betters or that people lower on the totem pole should have rights as an affront and an abomination that needs to be corrected by force.

It's clear as day and they've gotta be stopped.

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ZMythos
03/24/24 11:32:14 PM
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wackyteen posted...
this is isn't even good business.

These laws make absolutely no sense.

You want a hydrated workforce. They do better work.
>Hire undocumented workers to do undervalued labor
>Workers get less protections which means more labor
>Worker gets injured to suffers heat stroke, easy to replace and don't have to worry about healthcare because they're undocumented

It's all according to plan.

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BewmHedshot
03/24/24 11:41:03 PM
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Hmm so now States' Rights means having to follow the (lack of) federal rules?
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Kradek
03/24/24 11:44:37 PM
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Republicans continue finding new and exciting ways for us to revile them. This is uniquely monstrous, especially for a state like FL.

LonelyStoner posted...
How is DeSantis still employed?

Their government literally changed the law to allow him to run for POTUS without giving up his role as governor.

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psideresider
03/24/24 11:50:11 PM
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From google:

Only three states currently have heat exposure standards for all outdoor workersCalifornia, Minnesota and Washington, according to OSHAbut Oregon, Colorado and Nevada implemented rules requiring mandatory breaks, shade and cold water last year.

Seems like the majority of America goes by the federal requirements. I think all states should adopt mandatory water/shade breaks. With that said, Ive never been denied a water break or a moment to cool off at any of the jobs Ive worked Florida. Actually theyre encouraged.

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hockeybabe89
03/24/24 11:51:30 PM
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The American economy needs to be brought to a screeching halt until employers bend the knee to workers.

Most companies are amoral at best and deliberately malicious at worst, solely to maximize profit and then give none of it to the people making them the profit.

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FortuneCookie
03/25/24 12:08:59 AM
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ZMythos posted...
>Hire undocumented workers to do undervalued labor
>Workers get less protections which means more labor
>Worker gets injured to suffers heat stroke, easy to replace and don't have to worry about healthcare because they're undocumented

It's all according to plan.

Why not just enlist people on death row and work them to death?

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Solar_Crimson
03/25/24 12:46:34 AM
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LonelyStoner posted...
How is DeSantis still employed?
Florida is a battered wife suffering stockholm syndrome.

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Zikten
03/25/24 12:48:02 AM
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Texas and Florida continue to compete for worst state
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ChrisTaka
03/25/24 12:51:11 AM
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Literally why though

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FortuneCookie
03/25/24 12:55:07 AM
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ChrisTaka posted...
Literally why though

ZMythos posted...
>Hire undocumented workers to do undervalued labor
>Workers get less protections which means more labor
>Worker gets injured to suffers heat stroke, easy to replace and don't have to worry about healthcare because they're undocumented

It's all according to plan.

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Tora_Sami
03/25/24 12:56:08 AM
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ChrisTaka posted...
Literally why though

Cause fuck em, that's why.

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Nunyobidness
03/25/24 1:26:44 AM
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wackyteen posted...
this is isn't even good business.

These laws make absolutely no sense.

You want a hydrated workforce. They do better work.


It's just cruelty at this point. The party of Trump runs on pure hatred of human dignity.
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GuerillaGorilla
03/25/24 1:32:56 AM
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Some Floridians: Biden took away my water break!

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kirbymuncher
03/25/24 1:50:13 AM
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how do you even ban someone from providing breaks?? I can understand requiring them to provide breaks, but I don't understand the reverse

and I don't mean this in the sense of "how can they do something that's such a bad idea", I mean actually how does it work? can't the company just provide a break for any other random reason?

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Voidgolem
03/25/24 1:56:07 AM
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I continue to be baffled as to why anyone would want to live in florida

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Rika_Furude
03/25/24 3:27:38 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Why not just enlist people on death row and work them to death?
Dont give them ideas
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Sufferedphoenix
03/25/24 3:31:31 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Isn't their economy already tanking from banning undocumented immigrants from working?

Pretty sure that's nationwide. Just about every job I've applied for I'm asked if I'm a US citizen and if I could legally work in the US

Anyways hopefully not many companies will abuse this.

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wackyteen
03/25/24 5:56:56 AM
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kirbymuncher posted...
how do you even ban someone from providing breaks?? I can understand requiring them to provide breaks, but I don't understand the reverse

and I don't mean this in the sense of "how can they do something that's such a bad idea", I mean actually how does it work? can't the company just provide a break for any other random reason?

It isn't a ban on water breaks. Just banning/stopping, say, Daytona Beach or Bradenton from having their own laws requiring companies to provide additional water breaks or imposing specific conditions like iced water must be available or something.


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