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FortuneCookie
03/24/24 12:51:22 AM
#51:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Am I weird for not caring about this person?

Like maybe if she were the lead on bigger projects/companies than some niche indie dating sim I'd be able to muster concern. But she's not, and last I heard of the lore is that her current job is basically a glorified intern for other people who do the actual writing.

She's essentially just some random jackass in a world of random jackasses. >_>

lol, yeah.

People are making out like she's the head of Sony or something.
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Humble_Novice
03/24/24 1:26:20 AM
#52:


NoxObscuras posted...
Eh... Kind of? Lalonders clearly dislikes white people because of the way they've treated her. That kind of hate definitely swings into "racist" territory, but I can kind of understand why some people get like that.

My late grandfather hated white people because he grew up in the South during segregation. And as a black man, he got blamed and attacked by white men, for something he didn't do. So he never learned to trust white people after that, although his anger mellowed as he got older.

I didn't think it was right for him to hate all white people, because of the actions of a few, but I didn't go through what he did, so I wasn't about to argue with him on it.

I think something like that could have been solved with therapy though. Maybe that's what this lady needs? Work out her issues with a professional instead of carrying that hatred with her for her entire life.
Yeah, hatred only begets more hatred. It's most likely that trauma derived from racial discrimination is at the root of her behavior towards white people. Of course, that's no excuse to pile all that resentment on white individuals who've done nothing wrong.

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Humble_Novice
03/24/24 3:39:43 AM
#53:


Not sure if she was being sarcastic or spiteful, but yikes... I just don't get why she insists on staying in Twitter where people will provoke her incessantly.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/69cd4b79.jpg

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BloodMoon7
03/24/24 3:41:31 AM
#54:


Once you're racist the next step is becoming super racist!

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haloiscoolisbak
03/24/24 4:02:22 AM
#55:


Humble_Novice posted...
Not sure if she was being sarcastic or spiteful, but yikes... I just don't get why she insists on staying in Twitter where people will provoke her incessantly.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/69cd4b79.jpg

Kudos to her for admitting it.

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Zwijn
03/24/24 4:24:06 AM
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haloiscoolisbak
03/24/24 4:52:35 AM
#57:


Zwijn posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bb115366.jpg

So obtuse

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The_Sock
03/24/24 5:04:48 AM
#58:


The little boo.

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Zwijn
03/24/24 5:22:42 AM
#59:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
So obtuse
Make your own games if you dont like what shes doing eh.
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Zwijn
03/24/24 5:40:10 AM
#61:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

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Shes an asshole but those endless screenshots are obsessive behavior and the people on this crusade are 100% chuds who have new fuel for their bigotry. They dont actually care about the company.
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ai123
03/24/24 5:54:08 AM
#62:


Obscure minor games industry figure says some racist things.

The usual nasty little bastards try and build another disgraceful gamergate episode out of it.

Fuck 'em. They aren't worthy of anyone's notice.

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Arcanine2009
03/24/24 6:14:47 AM
#63:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

her influence is shown in a game she helped create

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Rika_Furude
03/24/24 7:05:29 AM
#65:


Zwijn posted...
Make your own games if you dont like what shes doing eh.
You can make games without being racist. So can she. All she has to do is try
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Zwijn
03/24/24 7:06:51 AM
#66:


Interesting how its the usual tags with takes like above.
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Rika_Furude
03/24/24 7:07:21 AM
#67:


Dont be racist. Such a controversial statement, amongst some people
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Zwijn
03/24/24 7:09:12 AM
#68:


Its not controversial, but people who know what this all is actually about will get the root problem of why she made these statements and they sure as hell wont throw a hissyfit about it online. You can dislike her, but venting about it is a red flag for another issue and this usually adds up.
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Southernfatman
03/24/24 7:10:30 AM
#69:


From what I can tell, She deserves to be called out and more because of her bigotry. The double standards from people who know better make me sad. It helps nothing.

The only problem is that right wingers, who are the loudest voices being heard over this, have no right to call her or others out on racism.

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cjsdowg
03/24/24 7:29:27 AM
#70:


Rika_Furude posted...
Dont be racist. Such a controversial statement, amongst some people

So you agree there is an issue with lack of representation in video games in general?

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Solution_45
03/24/24 7:29:29 AM
#71:


Tyranthraxus posted...
If you said something stupid on the Internet would you want people to forget about it and move on or harass you until the end of time trudging through years of your social media to find any other embarrassing comments you might have made?

digging up someone's past comments has been a thing for years

why should she be any different?
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VIIVincent
03/24/24 7:54:28 AM
#72:


Her career and social media posts is clearly publicly displaying of her disdain towards an entire group. That's being a racist 101.

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Rika_Furude
03/24/24 8:18:53 AM
#73:


cjsdowg posted...
So you agree there is an issue with lack of representation in video games in general?
Yes
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Tyranthraxus
03/24/24 8:57:11 AM
#74:


Solution_45 posted...
digging up someone's past comments has been a thing for years

why should she be any different?
I am specifically asking the person who said he wants to be treated the same way he treats others.

He dodged the question though, with some bullshit like "oh that would never happen to me because I would never do that" but I'm pretty sure he realizes he's not treating this woman the same way he wants to be treated so there's no point in pressing the issue.

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Lobinde
03/24/24 9:25:05 AM
#75:


Yes but tbh I don't really care this is still just chuds trying to make gamergate 2 into a thing

for some nuance, I'll agree that racism against white people is a thing that exists and it's bad but trying to equivalate racism against white people (which in 99% of cases doesn't extend beyond random twitter wokescolds making annoying posts) to systemic racism against non-white people that's existed for centuries is an extremely blatant and obtuse form of poor faith.

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PaperSplash
03/24/24 10:04:36 AM
#76:


I don't believe calling out white privilege and racism is itself racist, no. Though being against interracial relationships is pretty bad if true.

For what it's worth, she doesn't actually work for SBI, at least not anymore.
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Humble_Novice
03/24/24 1:44:55 PM
#77:


PaperSplash posted...
I don't believe calling out white privilege and racism is itself racist, no. Though being against interracial relationships is pretty bad if true.

For what it's worth, she doesn't actually work for SBI, at least not anymore.
True, but it seems like the far right has largely turned apolitical gamers against Sweet Baby Inc. Truth be told, this might have been avoided if the people involved had simply ignored them instead of lashing out.

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PaperSplash
03/24/24 2:18:46 PM
#78:


Humble_Novice posted...
True, but it seems like the far right has largely turned apolitical gamers against Sweet Baby Inc. Truth be told, this might have been avoided if the people involved had simply ignored them instead of lashing out.
Mmm, I don't know about "apolitical" in this case. Don't get me wrong far-right radicalization is definitely a thing but I feel like you already have to be at least somewhat "anti-woke" already to take those particular talking points seriously.

You're probably right that it wouldn't have blown up as much as it did if it wasn't for some of the people involved making such a fuss about it, but as someone who does a lot of lurking, I can tell you that the anti-SBI stuff has been simmering in certain corners of the internet for a while, hence why that Steam curator was created in the first place; the reaction to it, at most, just caused the spark that made everything boil over.
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Heavy_D_Forever
03/24/24 2:30:05 PM
#79:


I hope it's true that she did get fired. Anyone who holds the disgusting views that she does has no place in this industry. Her entire personality that she puts out online is based around hating a specific group of people. She honestly should seek counseling for her issues.

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Jagr_68
03/24/24 2:31:04 PM
#80:


who fucking cares.

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IceCreamOnStero
03/24/24 2:35:46 PM
#81:


PaperSplash posted...
You're probably right that it wouldn't have blown up as much as it did if it wasn't for some of the people involved making such a fuss about it, but as someone who does a lot of lurking, I can tell you that the anti-SBI stuff has been simmering in certain corners of the internet for a while, hence why that Steam curator was created in the first place; the reaction to it, at most, just caused the spark that made everything boil over.

Its taken it to the "mainstream" for lack of a better word. Before it was just random grifters having a circlejerk in their circles

The problem is that grifters are given free ammo to launder their bullcrap with. Instead of having to sell their bigotry with slightly more tame bigotry, they can hook a target in with somewhat accurate stuff like the person in this thread

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ssb_yunglink2
03/24/24 2:37:56 PM
#82:


I dont give a shit about the narrative because gamergate shit is ridiculous. Shes clearly racist but shes in no position to destroy gaming and white people like some of these right wing idiots want so badly to believe.

To everyone saying it doesnt matter or who cares though, hows this that much different than the dumbass racists tweeting about x men in the other topic?

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PaperSplash
03/24/24 2:42:27 PM
#83:


IceCreamOnStero posted...
Its taken it to the "mainstream" for lack of a better word. Before it was just random grifters having a circlejerk in their circles

The problem is that grifters are given free ammo to launder their bullcrap with. Instead of having to sell their bigotry with slightly more tame bigotry, they can hook a target in with somewhat accurate stuff like the person in this thread
Fair enough.
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KI_Simpson
03/24/24 2:49:31 PM
#84:


Pretending this person isn't racist is helping the grifters, it's letting them draw out a portion where they have actual evidence. Acknowledge this one person is racist and make them move on to explaining why this one person being racist is a big deal, which it isn't and they won't be able to.

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PesticideDream
03/24/24 2:53:04 PM
#85:


Of course you got the 12 psychopaths in here damage controlling with "nothing to see here folks. Black people can't be racist. You're a loser for caring about a hateful bigot".
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KI_Simpson
03/24/24 3:01:52 PM
#88:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

So what exactly do you want to happen beyond her being fired?

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PaperSplash
03/24/24 3:02:21 PM
#89:


I genuinely don't see those tweets as racist though because of the context. Read what she's actually saying. She's talking about privileged white people. Racist white people. White people with money. The latter two groups explicitly in a few cases. What's racist about that? It's just descriptive. Unless "white people" is somehow a slur now...
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PaperSplash
03/24/24 3:09:52 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Okay, can I get an actual source for this besides hearsay? I agree her being anti-interracial dating is pretty bad if true. I don't support editing someone else's art without permission either.
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Humble_Novice
03/24/24 3:17:17 PM
#93:


More people are using Lalonders' posts against her now.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5ff9d336.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62f5dcfc.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/68cd949b.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/43a3d9b9.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/42b3261e.jpg

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Torgo
03/24/24 3:19:16 PM
#94:


So gamergate came back from the dead and the ghouls and goblins found a new scapegoat?

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superben
03/24/24 3:24:12 PM
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deoxxys
03/24/24 3:29:04 PM
#97:


refmon posted...
Racism defenders about to deploy nuclear levels of dodging and whataboutism


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shnangyboos
03/24/24 3:32:14 PM
#98:


Can someone find me anyone claiming that she's going to oppress white people or bring upon a white genocide in gaming?

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cjsdowg
03/24/24 3:32:29 PM
#99:


Humble_Novice posted...
More people are using Lalonders' posts against her now.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5ff9d336.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62f5dcfc.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/68cd949b.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/43a3d9b9.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/42b3261e.jpg

She is right about but posting black character on black history month. When there is a lack of black characters in gaming. Andnif they are there it some side characters. That the ppl tc is backing up bitch about existing


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PaperSplash
03/24/24 3:35:34 PM
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Okay, I guess she is a shitty person then. But how does that affect the grand scheme of things?
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