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Touch
03/20/24 11:42:43 AM
#51:


This is a FUCKING video

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RetuenOfDevsman
03/20/24 3:13:54 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
"I insist this thing exists and I want to whine about it, but I can't tell you examples of it actually insisting."

Okay.
Oh I see. Maybe I was a bit unclear. I said I agree, and I meant, yes, video games should be fun, and no video games shouldn't be about white men being evil.

Hence why I added that I don't know why he would be saying it.
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UnsteadyOwl
03/20/24 3:18:02 PM
#53:


Look, video game companies should not grind up puppies in order to make more graphics.

Somebody had to say it.

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el_cheato
03/20/24 3:19:33 PM
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GranAures posted...
It has MAGAs. Not "literally" MAGAs but literally MAGAs, who harass the main characters as being illegals for being Hispanic. Of course it apparently super heavy handed and probably would have been better served by not trying to use real world stuff.
That kind of thing does actually happen though. That is the lived experience of many people. Why should it not be fair game to make a video game about a common lived experience? Especially if it's a game set in the real world modern day?

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Verdekal
03/20/24 3:21:51 PM
#55:


Weird how the web defended him at first but now he doesn't even pretend to be a good guy anymore and his defenders don't care.

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hereforemnant
03/20/24 3:23:14 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Pretty sure once the friendly gaming YouTuber facade fell though, boogie realized that right wing grifting is where the actual money is
It's not gonna be enough to bail him out of his bad decisions & financial debt
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Ragnarider
03/20/24 3:26:37 PM
#57:


GranAures posted...
It has MAGAs. Not "literally" MAGAs but literally MAGAs, who harass the main characters as being illegals for being Hispanic. Of course it apparently super heavy handed and probably would have been better served by not trying to use real world stuff.

So it's about why being a MAGA is bad, not why being a white man is bad.
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Sandalorn
03/20/24 3:28:24 PM
#58:


bigblu89 posted...
As someone running a Madden franchise with Daniel Jones at QB, white man is definitely bad.


This was pure gold.
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JoeDangIt
03/20/24 3:32:18 PM
#59:


If "gamers" spent more time playing games and less time whining about them, then companies might think they were a group worth catering to.
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GranAures
03/20/24 3:37:48 PM
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el_cheato posted...
That kind of thing does actually happen though. That is the lived experience of many people. Why should it not be fair game to make a video game about a common lived experience? Especially if it's a game set in the real world modern day?
Yes, it does and yes, it is. I was more commenting on what little bit I know of the game, but I also know it is possible to present experiences and stories without needing to lean on things in the real world. They did choose to and that's fine and as has been stated/implied to the user that initially brought it up, the choices of a 5+ year old game is not indicative of a pattern of "white man bad," nor do I consider that to be the message one should take from LiS2.

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BloodMoon7
03/20/24 3:39:24 PM
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I'm not sure it was the white man specifically but I have seen examples were "the man" is bad but it's ok because the heroes always defeat racism in the end. Or befriend it.

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codey
03/20/24 3:43:55 PM
#62:


el_cheato posted...
That kind of thing does actually happen though. That is the lived experience of many people. Why should it not be fair game to make a video game about a common lived experience? Especially if it's a game set in the real world modern day?

To add, from my limited experience with the game (I've only played the first episode) the racist MAGA white guy in the first episode is directly contrasted with a non-racist, non-MAGA white guy that helps you escape from him and then helps you find a place to stay. So far the game is very explicit that white guys aren't the villain, racists are.

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GranAures
03/20/24 3:50:52 PM
#63:


codey posted...
To add, from my limited experience with the game (I've only played the first episode) the racist MAGA white guy in the first episode is directly contrasted with a non-racist, non-MAGA white guy that helps you escape from him and then helps you find a place to stay. So far the game is very explicit that white guys aren't the villain, racists are.
Yeah, that was closer to my meaning. The game does not present all white people as bad, and the only people who could consider it to would be if they think the characters that are presented as bad are supposed to be indicative of all white people.

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LightningThief
03/20/24 8:33:22 PM
#64:


BloodMoon7 posted...
I'm not sure it was the white man specifically but I have seen examples were "the man" is bad but it's ok because the heroes always defeat racism in the end. Or befriend it.
"The man" has nothing to do with being white. That's an authority reference, usually being cops, government, feds, etc.
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haloiscoolisbak
03/21/24 2:10:02 AM
#65:


NeonOPPAl posted...
What? All I heard about that game was how bad the game was lol

I loved it. Loved the detailed backstory we got for all the capos and soldiers in the family, loved the wide range of personalities found throughout the 9 major assassination targets (some felt sopranos based, some more out of Scarface, some the godfather)

People thought the actual gameplay was way too repetitive but I enjoyed it for the most part.

As for why I brought it up in this thread, it felt a little heavy handed having nearly every character with a cut scene in the game viciously racist, but it was set in the south in the 60s so I get why optically it's a safe decision


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_Valigarmanda_
03/21/24 2:19:44 AM
#66:


NeonOPPAl posted...
What? All I heard about that game was how bad the game was lol

the opening act involves a 60's era black and white gangsters collaborating, until.....

https://youtu.be/9Ah6yrGOz-Q?si=JIy-OAMW4z9pZWrE

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shnangyboos
03/21/24 2:21:13 AM
#67:


If y'all just ignored this person they'd go away, right fellas.

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_Valigarmanda_
03/21/24 2:21:32 AM
#68:


I actually really love the story conceit for Mafia 3.... it's what they did to the open world that I hate about it

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Patriotwolf
03/21/24 2:21:45 AM
#69:


Ulfar posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/32aa7b39.jpg

You dropped some straw

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haloiscoolisbak
03/21/24 2:28:59 AM
#70:


_Valigarmanda_ posted...
I actually really love the story conceit for Mafia 3.... it's what they did to the open world that I hate about it

What's so bad about the open world? I kinda liked the city/bayou split

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_Valigarmanda_
03/21/24 2:48:13 AM
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The world of Mafia 2 feels like something Vito can live in while Mafia 3 has all the typical gang wars, side activities of a GTA or Saint's Row

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Zikten
03/21/24 2:55:26 AM
#72:


Boogie is famous for fence sitting on every issue. But now it looks like he's going conservative.
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Ilishe
03/21/24 3:45:57 AM
#73:


Luca Blight is pretty fucking terrifying I'll give you that

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Dark_Arbron
03/21/24 4:47:04 AM
#74:


HashtagSEP posted...
"I insist this thing exists and I want to whine about it, but I can't tell you examples of it actually insisting."

Okay.

Reminder the user youre responding to identified as centrist in another topic. Which Im sure is completely believable for a Jul 2023 account with nearly a thousand active posts.

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GranAures
03/21/24 5:10:44 AM
#76:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Wait? The visual representation of the beliefs of the vast majority of the people who cry about "woke," CRT, DEI, LGBTQIA+ and more upset somebody?

I wonder why?

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RetuenOfDevsman
03/21/24 9:53:18 AM
#77:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Reminder the user youre responding to identified as centrist in another topic. Which Im sure is completely believable for a Jul 2023 account with nearly a thousand active posts who has at least once used a variant of the phrase you cant say that on CE.
Did I say that? I remember saying something like "normal right instead of right wing", but I wouldn't consider myself centrist.

I think it might have been a poll where it asked are you left, centrist or right wing and I might have said something like I'm closer to centrist than right wing, or something along those lines.
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philsov
03/21/24 9:56:33 AM
#78:


Rosstin316 posted...
As a straight white man, I felt attacked by Tetris and its woke agenda.


So, I see Tetris as homophobic as the best way to get points is to thrust that straight block into the hole.

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McMarbles
03/21/24 9:58:25 AM
#79:


CruelBuffalo posted...

What is this clown even talking about. What are 5 popular games that are even described by this.
I guess boogies reached this stage of his career now.
https://x.com/dril/status/841892608788041732?s=20

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LoveLikeJazz
03/21/24 10:01:21 AM
#80:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Pick any 5 games with a female protagonist or a prominent non white character.

You still won't have an answer but that's what he's complaining about.
Tomb Raider
Watch Dogs 2
AC Origins
Forspoken
GTA: SA
Spiderman MM
Mafia 3
Control
Plague Tale
Horizon

All off the top of my head, female and/or non-white. Surely there are a lot more lol

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Funkydog
03/21/24 10:10:58 AM
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The fact he couldnt provide any examples when asked was amusing

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Hayame_Zero
03/21/24 10:24:08 AM
#83:


Blue checkmark = Boogie wants money

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Fire_Emblem_
03/21/24 10:24:22 AM
#84:


Who the hell is that?

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Xenogears15
03/21/24 10:26:37 AM
#85:


Fire_Emblem_ posted...
Who the hell is that?

Another dude who appears to be going down the right wing grifter pipeline.

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Doe
03/21/24 10:27:35 AM
#86:


Touch posted...
This is a FUCKING video
Can't believe it took until page 2

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Ragnarider
03/21/24 10:44:02 AM
#87:


Asmongold saw a cartoon dragon lady say the word "patriarchy" and he has never been the same since.
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Zwijn
03/21/24 12:50:03 PM
#89:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Sounds like Goodbye Volcano High, pretty cool looking visual novel.
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coolpal23
03/21/24 1:16:03 PM
#90:


Zwijn posted...
Sounds like Goodbye Volcano High, pretty cool looking visual novel.
Check out Snoot Game, if you havent

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ironman2009
03/21/24 1:24:56 PM
#91:


Dude should be more concerned about making it to next week.

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creativerealms
03/21/24 7:25:16 PM
#92:


Zwijn posted...
Sounds like Goodbye Volcano High, pretty cool looking visual novel.
Would make sense as that's one of the games Sweet Baby worked on and that group has made a bunch of anti-woke people froth at the mouth.

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cjsdowg
03/21/24 7:35:46 PM
#93:


The funny thing is that sack if shit could not bring up one game that does that . Like if you going to say something like that. Should he have some games in mind?

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Dark_Arbron
03/22/24 3:51:39 AM
#94:


cjsdowg posted...
The funny thing is that sack if shit could not bring up one game that does that . Like if you going to say something like that. Should he have some games in mind?

Its one of those things that is so common its a problem but not so common that you can think of an example when prompted.

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Kradek
03/22/24 4:09:23 AM
#95:


GranAures posted...
As memory serves it didn't even change the difficulty of fights it just changed how much money you found/received.

Yep. I played and finished the game myself as a white character, I watched my friend start up a black character and it was common to find like 0.17 in money when you'd normally find .80 or more.

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BadKarma_JT
03/22/24 4:32:40 AM
#96:


If the game isn't political, I.e. Mass Effect, Cyberpunk, Elden Ring then it's not fun nor is it a good game.

Games must have politics in order to have a good story and narrative.

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Trumble
03/22/24 5:08:55 AM
#97:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Not even that.

The first one had "Jew" as a class, akin to Fighter or Mage etc, and tbh it was probably the most OP class.

The second one labelled the part of the character select where you choose your skin color as a "difficulty selector", but the only things that picking hard (which of course, was the darkest tone of black) affected were how much money you start with; whether a certian boss gets hurt or healed when she eats your character; and whether or not Morgan Freeman will fight you (he's the game's ultimate optional superboss). For everything else, there's a seperate and explicit difficulty setting. You could identify as Jewish too but it didn't affect anything beyond a tiny bit of dialogue.

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/22/24 5:14:28 AM
#98:


LoveLikeJazz posted...
Tomb Raider
Watch Dogs 2
AC Origins
Forspoken
GTA: SA
Spiderman MM
Mafia 3
Control
Plague Tale
Horizon

All off the top of my head, female and/or non-white. Surely there are a lot more lol
How could you forget The Last of Us 2? Chuds so mad that they sent death threats so credible the goddamn FBI got involved.

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GranAures
03/22/24 5:33:42 AM
#99:


DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
How could you forget The Last of Us 2? Chuds so mad that they sent death threats so credible the goddamn FBI got involved.
Even threats about the child of one of the voice actresses.

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/22/24 8:57:23 AM
#100:


GranAures posted...
Even threats about the child of one of the voice actresses.
You have to be a special kind of asshole to threaten a baby because his mom, an actress, played a character you don't like.

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