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Crimsoness 03/19/24 1:13:34 PM #1:	Not really. He was unique for the time period but his motivation is severely lacking tbh --- She/Her <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:979451245] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Not really. He was unique for the time period but his motivation is severely lacking tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 03/19/24 1:14:46 PM #2:	Crimsoness posted... He was unique for the time period Was he? Joke character turned big bad was a pretty common trope. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979451262] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Crimsoness posted... </cite><quote>He was unique for the time period</quote>Was he? Joke character turned big bad was a pretty common trope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcoRubio 03/19/24 1:14:57 PM #3:	He's the best written Final Fantasy character --- Confirmed unbiased <cite>MarcoRubio posted [p:979451267] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>He's the best written Final Fantasy character </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 03/19/24 1:15:23 PM #4:	there isn't a single well-written character in ff6 <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:979451275] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>there isn't a single well-written character in ff6</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 03/19/24 1:17:06 PM #5:	Kaiganeer posted... there isn't a single well-written character in ff6 I disagree I think Terra's story arc is good but you're right for the most part because there's so many of them. --- She/Her <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:979451302] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Kaiganeer posted... </cite><quote>there isn't a single well-written character in ff6</quote>I disagree I think Terra's story arc is good but you're right for the most part because there's so many of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CARRRNE_ASADA 03/19/24 1:18:19 PM #6:	All characters back then where flash over substance with just 2 or 3 lines of character development. Maybe IX and X started having some more real characters. --- SEXY SEXY! <cite>CARRRNE_ASADA posted [p:979451315] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>All characters back then where flash over substance with just 2 or 3 lines of character development. Maybe IX and X started having some more real characters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Japanties 03/19/24 1:18:54 PM #7:	He's a by-the-books Joker villain who actually wins. He's not offensively badly written, but he exists only to set up the twist second-half of the game, which is what makes FF6 interesting. <cite>Japanties posted [p:979451324] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>He's a by-the-books Joker villain who actually wins. He's not offensively badly written, but he exists only to set up the twist second-half of the game, which is what makes FF6 interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 03/19/24 1:23:17 PM #8:	He's ugly, so no --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:979451404] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>He's ugly, so no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 03/19/24 1:24:37 PM #9:	Turbam posted... He's ugly, so no What about ~~god form~~ Kefka? He's got a six pack even --- She/Her <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:979451431] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Turbam posted... </cite><quote>He's ugly, so no</quote>What about god form Kefka? He's got a six pack even </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/19/24 1:25:51 PM #10:	Nope. I am a huge final fantasy fan but none of the games are well written. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979451459] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Nope.I am a huge final fantasy fan but none of the games are well written. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rharyx211 03/19/24 1:27:45 PM #11:	Didn't the localization give him more characterization, and that's what future appearances based things off of? In any event... Kaiganeer posted... there isn't a single well-written character in ff6 ...this is cap. --- Watch our "BLEACH Can't Fear Your Own World" full fandub: https://youtu.be/a2s_RdYM_pE?si=5kHTTbvJX4CY8Zk8 <cite>Rharyx211 posted [p:979451492] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Didn't the localization give him more characterization, and that's what future appearances based things off of?In any event...Kaiganeer posted... </cite><quote>there isn't a single well-written character in ff6</quote>...this is cap. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 03/19/24 1:27:59 PM #12:	Dancing Mad is a well written song. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:979451497] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Dancing Mad is a well written song. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/19/24 1:29:28 PM #13:	Crimsoness posted... Not really. He was unique for the time period but his motivation is severely lacking tbh In the game it is. In the auxiliary/cut material his motivation makes more sense. The empire was working on the magitek knight infusion. The first person they tested it on was Gau's father who went completely insane. They improved it a little and then tested it on Kefka. He only went a little insane. Then they offered it to Leo and he refused, so Celes got it and by then they had perfected it. After Kefka got it he couldn't find any pleasure in anything until he hurt someone and thought it was the funniest shit ever. From that point on his goal was to just hurt people because it was the only thing that made him feel joy. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979451521] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Crimsoness posted... </cite><quote>Not really. He was unique for the time period but his motivation is severely lacking tbh</quote>In the game it is. In the auxiliary/cut material his motivation makes more sense. The empire was working on the magitek knight infusion. The first person they tested it on was Gau's father who went completely insane. They improved it a little and then tested it on Kefka. He only went a little insane. Then they offered it to Leo and he refused, so Celes got it and by then they had perfected it. After Kefka got it he couldn't find any pleasure in anything until he hurt someone and thought it was the funniest shit ever. From that point on his goal was to just hurt people because it was the only thing that made him feel joy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 03/19/24 1:34:45 PM #14:	I suppose it depends on how you look at it. On one hand it is interesting that his mind is pretty much broken because of the experiments conducted on him, and he got to the point he just wanted to destroy everything. On the other hand that's all he wants, destruction, suffering, etc. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." <cite>Strider102 posted [p:979451618] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>I suppose it depends on how you look at it.On one hand it is interesting that his mind is pretty much broken because of the experiments conducted on him, and he got to the point he just wanted to destroy everything.On the other hand that's all he wants, destruction, suffering, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nota214 03/19/24 1:47:08 PM #15:	Kefka is a character from a game that had writing. <cite>Nota214 posted [p:979451822] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Kefka is a character from a game that had writing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 03/19/24 2:17:30 PM #16:	I like that for most of the game he's down in the dirt with everyone else, whereas most FF villains suffer from a terminal case of having the stick of predestined grandeur shoved so far up their ass that they couldn't even look down their noses to see our scrappy heroes so far below them. Kefka starts off as a general, sure, but he's basically a glorified errand boy in his first non-flashback appearance. He's an active presence in the WoB, he leads his own troops into battle, and he gets his ass kicked on more than one occasion. I know it's easy to just write him off as a loon with no motivation, but he's clearly highly ambitious, driven to conquer, and ~~taking over the Warring Triad isn't something he just does on a whim at the last minute~~. He's also jealous / resentful of General Leo, and it's subtly foreshadowed at least once that he's not too fond of taking orders from Emperor Gestahl. I'm not saying he's masterfully written by any stretch. But I feel like the current 'Kefka sucks and has no motivation' trend is a bit of an overcorrection against guys my age who used to proclaim him as teh best vidya gaem villen evar. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:979452331] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>I like that for most of the game he's down in the dirt with everyone else, whereas most FF villains suffer from a terminal case of having the stick of predestined grandeur shoved so far up their ass that they couldn't even look down their noses to see our scrappy heroes so far below them. Kefka starts off as a general, sure, but he's basically a glorified errand boy in his first non-flashback appearance. He's an active presence in the WoB, he leads his own troops into battle, and he gets his ass kicked on more than one occasion.I know it's easy to just write him off as a loon with no motivation, but he's clearly highly ambitious, driven to conquer, and taking over the Warring Triad isn't something he just does on a whim at the last minute. He's also jealous / resentful of General Leo, and it's subtly foreshadowed at least once that he's not too fond of taking orders from Emperor Gestahl.I'm not saying he's masterfully written by any stretch. But I feel like the current 'Kefka sucks and has no motivation' trend is a bit of an overcorrection against guys my age who used to proclaim him as teh best vidya gaem villen evar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Letsago 03/19/24 8:49:33 PM #17:	My main problem with him is that it's not made completely clear whether he was planning to betray Gestahl. He does talk to himself in the lab about wanting to become a god, but in the Floating Continent scene, I kinda got the vibe that it was a spur of the moment thing where he freaked out at seeing his own blood which caused him to get really mad and absorb the Warring Triad. My interpretation might be wrong I'll admit, but I think it's a bit ambiguous about whether he was loyal to Gestahl. On the bright side, I think it's cool that he starts as just an evil clown who after some introspection develops his nihilistic philosophy. It does serve the game's themes well. --- Let's-a go! Okey dokey! <cite>Letsago posted [p:979458966] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>My main problem with him is that it's not made completely clear whether he was planning to betray Gestahl. He does talk to himself in the lab about wanting to become a god, but in the Floating Continent scene, I kinda got the vibe that it was a spur of the moment thing where he freaked out at seeing his own blood which caused him to get really mad and absorb the Warring Triad.My interpretation might be wrong I'll admit, but I think it's a bit ambiguous about whether he was loyal to Gestahl.On the bright side, I think it's cool that he starts as just an evil clown who after some introspection develops his nihilistic philosophy. It does serve the game's themes well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 03/19/24 8:51:39 PM #18:	He doesn't have writing --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:979459003] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>He doesn't have writing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 03/19/24 8:54:42 PM #19:	If I can be honest. I think his character is decently written, but I'm not really a fan of his fight. Especially when you compare it to other villains in the series. I expected more. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:979459043] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>If I can be honest. I think his character is decently written, but I'm not really a fan of his fight. Especially when you compare it to other villains in the series. I expected more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drunk_Cobra 03/19/24 8:55:06 PM #20:	Eh. --- I don't want to be a snuff film reviewer. I want my hobbies to be farming, coin collecting, and reading. - farmer88 <cite>Drunk_Cobra posted [p:979459049] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Eh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 03/19/24 8:55:07 PM #21:	Letsago posted... My main problem with him is that it's not made completely clear whether he was planning to betray Gestahl. He does talk to himself in the lab about wanting to become a god, but in the Floating Continent scene, I kinda got the vibe that it was a spur of the moment thing where he freaked out at seeing his own blood which caused him to get really mad and absorb the Warring Triad. My interpretation might be wrong I'll admit, but I think it's a bit ambiguous about whether he was loyal to Gestahl. On the bright side, I think it's cool that he starts as just an evil clown who after some introspection develops his nihilistic philosophy. It does serve the game's themes well. He talked about wanting to form the "Magitek Empire of Kefka" while in Thamasa. He clearly had no plans on serving forever. He got his moment and ran with it. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:979459050] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Letsago posted... </cite><quote>My main problem with him is that it's not made completely clear whether he was planning to betray Gestahl. He does talk to himself in the lab about wanting to become a god, but in the Floating Continent scene, I kinda got the vibe that it was a spur of the moment thing where he freaked out at seeing his own blood which caused him to get really mad and absorb the Warring Triad.My interpretation might be wrong I'll admit, but I think it's a bit ambiguous about whether he was loyal to Gestahl.On the bright side, I think it's cool that he starts as just an evil clown who after some introspection develops his nihilistic philosophy. It does serve the game's themes well.</quote>He talked about wanting to form the "Magitek Empire of Kefka" while in Thamasa. He clearly had no plans on serving forever. He got his moment and ran with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 03/19/24 8:57:26 PM #22:	Ivany2008 posted... If I can be honest. I think his character is decently written, but I'm not really a fan of his fight. Especially when you compare it to other villains in the series. I expected more. Between Master Scroll Physical Attacks, Quick Shenanigans, and Ultima, he goes down pretty easily alright. At least the Post-Game Dragon's Den and Soul Shrine had some decent challenges in them. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:979459091] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Ivany2008 posted... </cite><quote>If I can be honest. I think his character is decently written, but I'm not really a fan of his fight. Especially when you compare it to other villains in the series. I expected more.</quote>Between Master Scroll Physical Attacks, Quick Shenanigans, and Ultima, he goes down pretty easily alright. At least the Post-Game Dragon's Den and Soul Shrine had some decent challenges in them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sub_Tank 03/19/24 9:45:36 PM #23:	Kefka was memorable, but I wouldn't say he was a well written character. Like most of the cast of FF6, Kefka's story was a bit lacking. They never give a good explanation for why he was given so much power, or why he was so close to Emperor Gestahl. He was clearly a loose cannon, and wasn't particularly great at his job, but everyone was forced to tolerate him anyway. You'd typically expect this to mean he was secretly the Emperor's son (or illegitimate son), but as far as I know he was just some random ass dude. Even if he was the prototype for Magitek knights, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to keep him around. --- "...on a ps3 a realalistic looking megaman with a huge universe to explore rag dog physics." - Djmidnight1 <cite>Sub_Tank posted [p:979459895] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Kefka was memorable, but I wouldn't say he was a well written character.Like most of the cast of FF6, Kefka's story was a bit lacking. They never give a good explanation for why he was given so much power, or why he was so close to Emperor Gestahl. He was clearly a loose cannon, and wasn't particularly great at his job, but everyone was forced to tolerate him anyway. You'd typically expect this to mean he was secretly the Emperor's son (or illegitimate son), but as far as I know he was just some random ass dude. Even if he was the prototype for Magitek knights, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to keep him around. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heptade 03/19/24 9:59:29 PM #24:	Quite overrated. Not necessarily bad as far as 90s video game villains go, but there wasn't much competition back then. While he is quite entertaining, he feels a bit like a Joker ripoff, to be honest. And there was no reason for Gestahl to keep him around for so long. Dancing Mad is a prog rock masterpiece, however. --- Me reconnaissez-vous? C'est moi le crisse de fou qui marche sur la ville. Friend code 5043 - 4349 - 6972 The name's Laurent, you can add me as much as you want. <cite>Heptade posted [p:979460134] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Quite overrated. Not necessarily bad as far as 90s video game villains go, but there wasn't much competition back then. While he is quite entertaining, he feels a bit like a Joker ripoff, to be honest.And there was no reason for Gestahl to keep him around for so long.Dancing Mad is a prog rock masterpiece, however. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/19/24 11:34:10 PM #25:	Sub_Tank posted... Kefka was memorable, but I wouldn't say he was a well written character. Like most of the cast of FF6, Kefka's story was a bit lacking. They never give a good explanation for why he was given so much power, or why he was so close to Emperor Gestahl. He was clearly a loose cannon, and wasn't particularly great at his job, but everyone was forced to tolerate him anyway. You'd typically expect this to mean he was secretly the Emperor's son (or illegitimate son), but as far as I know he was just some random ass dude. Even if he was the prototype for Magitek knights, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to keep him around. The reasons were there they just got cut along with a bunch of other stuff. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979461409] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Sub_Tank posted... </cite><quote>Kefka was memorable, but I wouldn't say he was a well written character.Like most of the cast of FF6, Kefka's story was a bit lacking. They never give a good explanation for why he was given so much power, or why he was so close to Emperor Gestahl. He was clearly a loose cannon, and wasn't particularly great at his job, but everyone was forced to tolerate him anyway. You'd typically expect this to mean he was secretly the Emperor's son (or illegitimate son), but as far as I know he was just some random ass dude. Even if he was the prototype for Magitek knights, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to keep him around.</quote>The reasons were there they just got cut along with a bunch of other stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Crissaegrim- 03/19/24 11:51:27 PM #26:	philsov posted... Dancing Mad is a well written song. --- And that blood is so real, because I just can't fake it. Work in progress bass guitar sound- https://vocaroo.com/17qBOSAFwIfM <cite>-Crissaegrim- posted [p:979461593] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>philsov posted... </cite><quote>Dancing Mad is a well written song.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 03/20/24 9:02:02 AM #27:	Letsago posted... My main problem with him is that it's not made completely clear whether he was planning to betray Gestahl. He does talk to himself in the lab about wanting to become a god, but in the Floating Continent scene, I kinda got the vibe that it was a spur of the moment thing where he freaked out at seeing his own blood which caused him to get really mad and absorb the Warring Triad. My interpretation might be wrong I'll admit, but I think it's a bit ambiguous about whether he was loyal to Gestahl. On the bright side, I think it's cool that he starts as just an evil clown who after some introspection develops his nihilistic philosophy. It does serve the game's themes well. It's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it scene, but there's a quick bit with Gestahl and Kefka entering the Sealed Gate just before the Floating Continent rises, where Gestahl orders Kefka to hurry up and Kefka is visibly irate at it. Not the most amazing foreshadowing in the world, but it does illustrate that Kefka doesn't take kindly to being ordered around at that point. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:979465809] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Letsago posted... </cite><quote>My main problem with him is that it's not made completely clear whether he was planning to betray Gestahl. He does talk to himself in the lab about wanting to become a god, but in the Floating Continent scene, I kinda got the vibe that it was a spur of the moment thing where he freaked out at seeing his own blood which caused him to get really mad and absorb the Warring Triad.My interpretation might be wrong I'll admit, but I think it's a bit ambiguous about whether he was loyal to Gestahl.On the bright side, I think it's cool that he starts as just an evil clown who after some introspection develops his nihilistic philosophy. It does serve the game's themes well.</quote>It's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it scene, but there's a quick bit with Gestahl and Kefka entering the Sealed Gate just before the Floating Continent rises, where Gestahl orders Kefka to hurry up and Kefka is visibly irate at it. Not the most amazing foreshadowing in the world, but it does illustrate that Kefka doesn't take kindly to being ordered around at that point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetuenOfDevsman 03/20/24 9:11:00 AM #28:	Well, kinda He's the villain the game needed, so in that sense he is. But there's also just not much about the guy that's particularly interesting from a writing perspective. Nutcase, opportunist, completely flat, doesn't even represent a believable ideology. <cite>RetuenOfDevsman posted [p:979465920] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Well, kinda He's the villain the game needed, so in that sense he is. But there's also just not much about the guy that's particularly interesting from a writing perspective. Nutcase, opportunist, completely flat, doesn't even represent a believable ideology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 03/20/24 9:35:52 AM #29:	Nope. Just a warped mind who wants chaos and mayhem and got lucky to achieve his powers. His fanboys will try to convince you that he is this wise person who manipulated and had a long plan to get all his power. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:979466181] in Is Kefka a... [t:80725434]...</cite> <quote>Nope. Just a warped mind who wants chaos and mayhem and got lucky to achieve his powers. His fanboys will try to convince you that he is this wise person who manipulated and had a long plan to get all his power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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