Board 8 > Johnbobb ranks user-nominated Villain Songs: Requiem - The Ranking

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Johnbobb posted...

Both singers do decent work here.

LOL. Bro, theres only one singer (Britt McKillip, FYI).

redrocket posted...

LOL. Bro, theres only one singer (Britt McKillip, FYI).

oh whoops!

Ugh it's like you know nothing about My Little Pony

Now that This Day Aria has dropped, I can link this

https://youtu.be/VEYi8RHVuw0?si=8a_A3Nw6zHnABXzM

I'm Alive too low!

Yeah, the song is really fascinating and it's really wicked to portray Diana's struggle with mental illness I really like the melody and performance too actually. But it's even better in video or on stage, yeah. Not to mention the types they usually cast as Gabe.

Also This Day Aria is pretty much an MLP classic, probably not my favorite villain song from it though.

Raka_Putra posted...

Also This Day Aria is pretty much an MLP classic, probably not my favorite villain song from it though.

I was considering nominating In Our Town, but didn't want to risk a slot on MLP

I jinxed myself earlier, didn't I? Since all of my songs are now out, I'll post my favourite lyrics from each of my nominations:

Leather Pants: We want your pants / And we want our revenge / We want your pants / And were really just friends.
I've Got a Little List: And while we're on the subject, HBO deserves a whack / For ending The Sopranos with a f****** cut to black!
Robot Hell: Just tell me why! / Just read this fifty-five page warrant. / There must be robots worse than I? / We checked around, there really aren't!
It's Our House Now: You've had your fun / You've made your play / But every rodent has his day!

I'd never seen Spy Aria before, but it's brilliant! I wonder how it would rank in comparison to the original?

Rhyming "warrant" with "aren't" is the real crime

Its pretty good, but I would swap Scouts mother for Heavys mother personally.

hombad46 posted...

Now that This Day Aria has dropped, I can link this

https://youtu.be/VEYi8RHVuw0?si=8a_A3Nw6zHnABXzM

beautiful

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71. Come Wayward Souls
Source: Over the Garden Wall
Villain: The Beast
Nominator: Jesse_Custer (1 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_GSYF5NSMQ

Villainy: 9
Characterization: 2
Melody: 3
Total: 14/30

"Sorrow and fear are easily forgotten / When you submit to the soil of the earth"

Come Wayward Souls is absolutely being carried by its evil on display here, as it scores easily the highest villainy score so far despite being under two minutes and only two short verses long. So what makes it so villainous? Well, in those two brief verses, the beast introduces himself by calling the "lost souls" to come to him and "submit to the soil", which even without the greater context of the tree horror of the show still basically implies death at best. Then the next verse hits, sung by a chorus of children, and it suddenly becomes clear that the "lost souls" are essentially kids being lured into the forest and most likely killed or worse. It doesn't get a whole lot more evil!

That being said, it is a very small song, and while it's not a joy to listen to, it serves its purpose by being absolutely creepy as all hell. It unfortunately doesn't tell you much of anything about the actual villain of the show though; quite literally the only thing we know about him is that he's luring children. Not that that makes us really want to know much more.

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70. The Goblin Song
Source: Doctor Who
Villain: The Goblins
Nominator: Dancedreamer (1 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXgnqGTOXTE

Villainy: 7
Characterization: 2
Melody: 5
Total: 14/30

"Baby blood and baby bones / Baby butter for the baby scones"

Every once in a while I think I should go back and catch up on Doctor Who, but then I see something like this and... well, I'm not sure what to think. I don't know if I liked it or not. I'm mostly confused. They sang the whole song about finally being able to eat, but then they introduce the Goblin King, and are they just feeding the baby to him? If so why sing this whole song about them collectively eating it? The song sounded like they were starving; is this like a vampire thing where obviously what they're doing is bad, but they need to to survive? But if that was the case, they wouldn't be feeding the entire baby to the one Goblin who clearly isn't starving. They said specifically "we can dine three days at least," which seems to imply that this one baby will give them all sustenance for days, but then they say the king can eat 500 puppies... seriously, the logistics of who is going to be eating what and how much that sustains them is just all over the place. If this IS a case of "their society dies if they don't eat the occasional baby, then, I mean, it's not great, but it's a lot less evil than if they just really love killing babies. But the song very specifically isn't clear! It is kinda catchy though, love the vocals, and I think over time it might grow on me more.

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69. Spanish Train
Source: Chris De Burgh
Villain: The Devil
Nominator: Chaeix (1 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnaUvPoiTfQ

Villainy: 3
Characterization: 4
Melody: 7
Total: 14/30

"He said 'That suits me fine / I'll raise you high to a hundred and five /And forever put an end to your sins' / But the Devil let out a mighty shout, 'My hand wins!!'"

First, yeah, I really dig this song. It's catchy and moody and while I definitely wouldn't put it on the same level as songs like The Devil Went Down to Georgia, it definitely has a similar vibe. There's just something about a darkly folksy song about a mysterious train that always seems to really set the mood. De Burgh is a great vocalist, although nothing in the song was quite enough to push it to the top for me.

As for the Devil himself, I mean, he's not really doing all that much in the way of evil here. Like the idea at its core behind the Devil is that he rules over Hell and when people die, if that's where there to go, he takes him there. Portraying the Devil as someone who rules over Hell and the souls of the damned isn't much more inherently evil than Hades or even Death itself really, just kind of neutral. He's doing exactly the same thing as the lord here, but just taking the souls to a different destination, and he never expresses desire to torture them for their sings like Robot Devil did. Really the worst thing he's doing here is cheating. Which like, dick move Devil, and sucks to be Chris De Burgh here, going to Hell because the lord is too bad at recognizing an unfair game to call out the Devil on it. Ultimately who's the real villain here? Basically everyone is going to Hell because the Devil is the only one who's actually good at this job.

If anyone hasnt seen it, Over the Garden Wall is absolutely fantastic

wallmasterz posted...

If anyone hasnt seen it, Over the Garden Wall is absolutely fantastic

can confirm

Yep, incredible show & music

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68. VILLAIN
Source: K/DA and League of Legends
Villain: Evelynn
Nominator: CoolCly (1 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoWxv2yZXLQ

Villainy: 5
Characterization: 4
Melody: 5
Total: 14/30

"Is it really a surprise if I'm playing with your mind? / And I treat you like a prize then I throw you to the side?"

Well this easily wins the prize for most on-the-nose title for a villain song. It's pretty solid overall, with an enjoyable beat. My main issue with it musically is largely that it feels pretty repetitive, like I keep waiting for it to build up to something that it never quite hits. The vocals are good, the mixing is great. I'm not a huge fan of the pre-chorus, but the chorus is pretty catchy.

It's a little tough to get a solid idea of the implications of the song though. Like the line "fill you full of dread 'til you go pow," is this suggesting that the person being sung to is dying? Other lines suggest, putting a price on their head, or manipulating them through seduction or some type of control, and still others are just "make you cry." It's all just a little too vague. Like Evelynn is at the very least cruel and the type to use someone, but there's no real context for the song (unlike something sung in the context of a specific scene) so it's hard to really get much of an idea of the specifics. Just vibes.

and that's it for me today, I've had like no time whoops

I'm glad that you seem to not hate StarKid

jcgamer107 posted...

I'm glad that you seem to not hate StarKid

Kick It Up a Notch placed 6th last time!

Yeah VILLAIN is kind of an odd one lyrically, probably because of how Riot handles their lore. Every skin line has its own independent lore. So while for example Rumble in League of Legends lore is an ornery arena fighter who uses a mech he built out of scrap, Rumble in "Caf Cuties" lore is a naked barista made out of coffee creamer. It's not like a time in his life where he had to take a job as a barista it's kind of a different character with the same name and general character design. Evelynn in League of Legends lore is a primordial demon who seduces people and then tortures them to death, while Evelynn in K/DA lore is a girl in a K-Pop band, but then the lyrics in her song are sort of based on the persona of her League of Legends equivalent who is her but also isn't. And then she collabs with Heartsteel which has Yone in it, who in League lore is a demon hunter specifically sworn to kill Evelynn on sight.

Anyway if it was a song about League Evelynn it probably could've gotten a few more villainy points. Maybe I should've actually used more than one nom and suggested Get Jinxed to see how that would do in comparison.

Evillordexdeath posted...

a naked barista made out of coffee creamer

excuse me what

He can get away with it because he's a little teddy bear creature.

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Well I certainly feel less bad about being confused

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67. Cell Block Tango
Source: Chicago
Villain: The Cook County Jailbirds
Nominator: Inviso (2 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1qQCFQCneA

Villainy: 5
Characterization: 5
Melody: 5
Total: 15/30

"Single, he told me. Single, my ass. Not only was he married, oh, no, he had six wives. One of those Mormons, you know?"

This is a song that feels pretty drastically low for what is a pretty iconic villain song, and one of the only iconic group villain songs. However, it falls short on what are largely a handful of technicalities despite me liking the actual moment in the show.

First, the villainy. This is the toughest spot, because yeah, they're mostly all killers. Not like serial killers, just women who were mistreated by men, and who snapped and killed their husbands/boyfriends. Except the girl who shot her husband for popping gum, that does feel pretty drastic. But here we run into one of the issues with group villain songs, because this is a song about 6 convicted murderers... one of whom is entirely innocent, and says so directly in the song, but is only convicted because she's Hungarian and can't defend herself in English. It's hard to rank the villainy higher when one of them is just literally not a villain. (For the record, I wouldn't apply this reasoning to a villain song that features a duet with a hero/villain, this is a case where the innocent women is very directly considered one of the "Cook County Jailbirds", who are as a collective the villains of the song)

Anyway, then it's hard to rank musically very high, because even while it has some great peaks, most of the song is just talking with some gentle music in the background. It's an iconic storytelling technique, but makes the song less enjoyable to listen to on its own. And then, even though we're getting stories from all the different jailbirds, again it's held back by the size of the group, as we only get a brief synopsis of each woman; enough to get what their deal is, but not a lot more.

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66. This Jesus Must Die
Source: Jesus Christ Superstar
Villain: Caiaphas and the pharisees
Nominator: Raka_Putra (3 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-3RQeYDVgw

Villainy: 7
Characterization: 6
Melody: 2
Total: 15/30

"Fools! You have no perception! / The stakes we are gambling are frighteningly high! / We must crush him completely / So like John before him, this Jesus must die"

So this is actually a pretty good example of how a group villain song can work! Caiaphas is obviously the main villain, but the pharises are all very clearly villains of the song too. That doesn't really take away from the villainy too much though, as they're all very on board with the plan, even though Caiaphas is orchestrating it. And while the rest of the pharises aren't particularly well developed, that also doesn't really hurt it because the focal villain is Caiaphas, who we get a pretty solid idea of. In fact, this song is strikingly similar to The Mob Song from Beauty of the Beast (#31 in the last ranking) in both its structure and intention.

The difference? I just don't care for this song at all. The vocals are all pretty lousy, the rhythm is awkward, and the "Jesus Christ superstar" refrains just kinda pop up out of nowhere to awkwardly interrupt the song. Like it feels like they were all given a script, but nobody was told that it was going to be a musical until the day of shooting, so they all had to make up the cadence on the spot.

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65. Big and Loud
Source: Cats Don't Dance
Villain: Darla Dimple
Nominator: Evilorexdeath (0 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n2iAY28kAw

Villainy: 4
Characterization: 6
Melody: 5
Total: 15/30

"I didn't get where I am today / By letting myself get pushed around / No man, or beast, or kitty cat, or doggy / Is going to drag me down"

Ok, this was pretty cute. Darla has a suprisingly big range for a kid voice actor, and I think it really helped bolster what otherwise might've been a more forgettable song. She pretty effectively pulls of the change to a slightly more sinister tone once the refrain hits. I can't quite pinpoint what didn't really click with me enough to put it higher; ultimately I think it was trying to replicate a very specific style of song, and didn't really do enough to put it beyond what it was taking inspiration from. While I didn't count the conversation between the sections against it as they clearly weren't part of the song, it still didn't help that it sort of ends, starts back up again to largely repeat itself, and then end again.

We definitely get a pretty good idea of Darla here though, and she's an asshole. It's not clear what exactly she's planning, as her plan is pretty vague beyond "making them fall big and loud." But we know that her intention to be an asshole is there, plain and clear. She does an excellent job of pulling off the "fake nice disgusing an evil center" act, and that definitely scored it some points in the characterization department.

Hmmm I expected Cell Block Tango to be top 20

Johnbobb posted...

Kick It Up a Notch placed 6th last time!

Well that's a good sign

So like John(bobb) before him, this Jesus must die. :"(

Yeah, a fair assessment. To be honest I should've picked another version of it, but IIRC I was in a bit of a hurry putting the list together lol. I mean the melody itself wouldn't change too much, but better instruments and vocals might get it another point or two. Ah well.

Aww, I was hoping Big and Loud might place a little higher, understandable though. Cats Don't Dance is a cool movie but it does have a bit of an amateurish vibe surrounding the whole thing which might be part of the hard to pin down feeling that stopped it scoring higher. Most of the people who worked on the movie were recent grads straight out of Calarts.

btw the plan Darla is hatching is basically to flood several blocks of Hollywood and blame it on the animals to try and get them kicked out of showbiz. So for the sake of score in this project specifically it's probably too bad she doesn't get into the specifics in the song lol

Evillordexdeath posted...

btw the plan Darla is hatching is basically to flood several blocks of Hollywood and blame it on the animals to try and get them kicked out of showbiz. So for the sake of score in this project specifically it's probably too bad she doesn't get into the specifics in the song lol

Yeah that definitely would've gotten it a couple more Villainy points if mentioned directly!

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64. Apex Predator
Source: Mean Girls (2024)
Villain: Regina George
Nominator: ScareChan (2 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXROn5zUZ6Q

Villainy: 5
Characterization: 5
Melody: 5
Total: 15/30

"Don't be fooled by the pink / She is not playing dolls / She is stalking the halls / For the thrill of the kill"

This is a slightly better example of how the "villain song that's about the villain but not by them" can work. They're not mocking Regina like with Prince John and Scrooge, they're legitimately intimidated by her, which helps to boost her own threat level above the just slightly rude self-portrayal Regina gave in Meet the Plastics. The song is a warning, and while it still doesn't go super deep into Regina's characterization beyond the surface level, basically suggesting that she's vicious, self-absorbed and protective of her own power, you really start to get a little more of a picture of Regina.

The song is decent. There's something about the flow to it that doesn't quite flow for me, I think the rhyme scheme throws me off.

A
B
B
C

D
E
E
C

But then it's not entirely consistent with that either, and then you get the rhythm of / _ / _ / becoming / _ / _ /// for the "Apex Predator" line, which always feels rushed. It makes it more interesting I guess, but click with me, despite Moana doing great work on the vocals.

the whole flow is off because they changed the duality of it being a janice con/cady pro song to a double janice/damian con song

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63. Bury the Light
Source: Devil May Cry V
Villain: Vergil
Nominator: paulg237 (2 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrg9KxGNeJY

Villainy: 4
Characterization: 8
Melody: 3
Total: 15/30

"I am reclaimer of my name / Born in flames / I have been blessed / My family crest is a demon of death"

This is a certain type of metal I've never been a massive fan of. Like it's decent, but never strikes me as something memorable. There's a lot of talent in the instrumentals, but I really don't care for the vocals very much. It's the kind of thing I hear on my local rock radio all the time. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like it'd be a badass boss battle, but it's not something I'd go out of my way to listen to.

Ya know, for how edgy the lyrics of this song are, they do tell you surprisingly a lot about Vergil, and it's almost entirely tragic. I had a really hard time really calling much of the song villainous, because while it's certainly antagonistic, it ultimately portrays Vergil as sympathetic and regretful of any action he might've taken. The only lines that really specfically suggest the villainous things he's done are "Constellations of blood pirouette / Dancing through the graves of those who stand at my feet," which yeah, sounds awful, but again, the song portrays him as lonely and mournful, with his rivalry being one of the main things still driving him. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this one or going to easy on him (I read a lot of interpretations of this song for research) but that's where I ended up.

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62. Waiky Shnshujng
Source: Senki Zesshou Symphogear G
Villain: Miku Kohinata
Nominator: SceptileSolar (1 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLH_q2E3H9o

Villainy: 2
Characterization: 8
Melody: 5
Total: 15/30

"In chaos, I lost my dream in limbo, my dream of your smile / How come how come? Where did it all go so wrong?"

I guess now we're just gonna hit all the ones I have a kind of hard time really explaining. So I'll start with the easy part. I kinda like the song. It sort of sounds like something I'd hear on an arcade rhythm machine (not DDR, but one of the imported ones you play with your hands, if that makes any sense at all). Some of the more high-pitched grinding siren noises repeating through the song didn't quite work for me, but it's not bad.

Very very little of this song comes across as villainous. I had 2/10 largely marked as my "misguided rather than villainous" category, and I think that's a great fit for Miku. She's in an antagonistic role in the song out of love for the protagonist and wanting to stop her for her own good ("I can never forgive myself for this / That's why I'll fight"). And the portrayal of Miku's love for... *hold on, let me check my notes*... Hibiki and the complicated feelings that leaves her with makes for some really excellent characterization. It's a (seemingly unrequited) love song masquerading as a boss theme, and vice versa.

Johnbobb posted...

I had 2/10 largely marked as my "misguided rather than villainous" category

This is where I expect Throw Away Your Mask to be tbh

I certainly knew it wasn't a particularly villainous song when nominating it so that all seems fair. Any of the really nasty characters don't get songs in that series.

Though now I'm imagining ridiculous mad scientist villain John Wayne Vercingetorix, the self-proclaimed Last Action Hero, getting one. Missed opportunity!

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61. Someone Gets Hurt
Source: Mean Girls (2024)
Villain: Regina George
Nominator: ScareChan (1 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVuCLquPZBY

Villainy: 4
Characterization: 5
Melody: 6
Total: 15/30

"It's (Fine) fine for you / It's (Fine) fine to flirt / And (Oh), god, you're hot / Why do you even wear a shirt?"

And the last Mean Girls entry falls. For a movie like Mean Girls, there are definitely limitations on how villainous anyone can get. Like Regina at her absolute worst is like being mean and breaking up high school relationships. This shit isn't Carrie, it's called Mean Girls for a reason. In fact, this is one of the few songs where Regina's attitude is presented less like "I get what I want and don't care about anyone else" and more like "I actively want other people to suffer for my actions." It's an important turning point for Regina and I think really cements her as the villain of the story moreso than the other nominated songs.

It's also kind of a banger. I mean Renee Rapp is killing it, and I actually do prefer this version to the Broadway version! In general, I think the direction they went with this soundtrack, instrumentally, was excellent. The vibes here are darker, and I reminded a bit of Halsey's collaboration with Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross (one of the best albums of the last few years imo). I think if the movie would've committed a bit more with the full songs but kept this musical style it would have really cemented it as something great.

The choreography for this in the movie is fantastic and one of the bright spots.

World Burn is peak Regina villain mode though imo

I enjoyed the movie and the songs and their rankings make sense. Too mean not enough evil for the prompt, but glad they got respectable showings and it sounds like JB enjoyed them

FFDragon posted...

The choreography for this in the movie is fantastic and one of the bright spots.

World Burn is peak Regina villain mode though imo

I was going to originally just nominate Black Sheep and then I realized I'm Just Ken counted. It felt right to add these other three for the ride lol

also I actually watched the 2024 Mean Girls today and Cady was definitely the villain

and World Burn probably would've ranked highest of the Mean Girls songs tbh

Karen however is precious and must be protected at all costs

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60. The Stains of Time
Source: Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
Villain: Monsoon
Nominator: Murphiroth (1 left)

https://youtu.be/PEXB_Ewjmsk

Villainy: 2
Characterization: 6
Melody: 7
Total: 15/30

"And it will come like a flood of pain / Pouring down on me / And it will not let up until the end is here / And it will come through the darkest day"

Here's another one that suffers by not being mean enough! It's another song about a figure that comes across as more tragic than villainous, without most of the lyrics pointing more toward nihilism and surrender than to actually cruelty. Monsoon comes across as hopeless, and I'm ultimately left feeling bad for him, even if he is in an antagonistic role. In a pretty short song though, it manages to really emphasize the mental condition at play here. Some of the lines are legitimately touching in a way, like "And it will never rest until the clouds are clear / Until it finds my dreams have disappeared." Am I supposed to want to go against this guy? He sounds like he needs a hug.

Also, pretty great track all in all. The vocals are a little whatever, but this sounds like something I'd have been playing on repeat on Guitar Hero III. It really feels like a boss theme, combining the metal fierceness of the instrumentals with that sort of high-tech sound to emphasize the aesthetics the game is going for. I really just kinda wished it was longer.

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59. Hands Clean
Source: Alanis Morisette
Villain: Groomer
Nominator: Snake55555555 (2 left)

https://youtu.be/AM_liRkPwdg

Villainy: 6
Characterization: 3
Melody: 6
Total: 15/30

"I wish I could tell the world 'cause you're such a pretty thing when you're done up properly / I might wanna marry you one day, if you watch that weight and keep your firm body"

So I do have a question about this one; is the chorus supposed to be sung from Alanis' point of view or from the groomer's? Because I think that makes a difference in the characterization/villainy aspect of it. Most of the song is from the groomer's POV, so it would make sense if the chorus was too, where it outlines "your request for silence." If this is the groomer requesting silence and Alanis saying she's requesting it, that might bump it up a little as far as the villainy goes, but if it's the reverse, then that's not quite as bad. I mean, let's be real, this is pretty scummy regardless. Very scummy. Like I feel like 6 doesn't seem adequate for how scummy this behavior is, but only because the shit that's higher than a 6 is really bad.

You don't really learn much about the "villain" though, including his name. That's really where the song suffers, for the purposes of this contest. In hindsight, maybe a 3 is a little harsh, but my main thought process was that it largely feels intentionally generic, kinda like a basic outline of what a groomer is rather than who this one specific guy was. Which is fine for the song, but hurts it as a villain song. Pretty decent song too! Every Alanis song is pretty much decent at least though.

The chorus is definitely Alanis' point of view. The groomer is clearly requesting the silence as to not get caught. Great subtle shift in the second chorus where Alanis adds the word "more" to the line, so simple but effective in showing just how much trauma she's suppressed because of this absolutely vile POS.

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58. Marley and Marley
Source: The Muppets Christmas Carol
Villain: The Marleys
Nominator: wallmasterz (1 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQeEtYR2Db4

Villainy: 6
Characterization: 5
Melody: 5
Total: 16/30

"We're Marley and Marley / Our hearts were painted black / We should have known our evil deeds / Would put us both in shackles"

So this is a weird one, because literally the entire point of Jacob Marley, in any interation of A Christmas Carol, is that he's a repentant person that was terrible in life and suffers in afterlife, and is offering Scrooge the chance to repent before he suffers the same fate. Marley does that here too, only... he's not really repentant. Well, they're not. They're still laughing about throwing orphans out on the street in winter to freeze. They shudder about it, but they don't seem at all regretful, they're still fully assholes.

The song itself is okay; it's not really one that requires a whole lot of vocal range. Also, the chorus of "we're Marley and Marley / oooOOoOooooOooh" just kinda felt silly to me. I mean, silly makes sense I guess, but that's part of the difficulty here. It's trying to be silly and goofy because Muppets while also handling what is intended to be a serious and frightening scene. It is pretty catchy either way, even if most of the song is moreso just them talking over music.

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57. Marley and Marley
Source: Hazbin Hotel (Fansong)
Villain: Alastor
Nominator: Pirateking2003 (3 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1BFaW4h-l8

Villainy: 7
Characterization: 5
Melody: 4
Total: 16/30

"And once your hunger has abated / Don't forget your friend who waited / Watched as you endulged your thirst and / Did I mention that you're cursed?"

So one thing I don't care for in general about fansongs, especially fansongs from content that's mainly popular online is that it always feels like it's going through a couple of filters. Like it's not the a song from the writer of the character, it's a song by an internet musician, interpreting the fandom's interpretation of the character. I only really know The Living Tombstone for No Mercy because it went so viral a few years back, but I know they're kind of in a weird spot, since they do work on music for the show, but I don't know how much involvement the show itself has with this. But it absolutely feels like a fansong in a way similar to the Deltarune songs nominated last ranking.

I mean, the guy's definitely evil. He's basically just taking the regular devil/demon role of tricking people into signing contracts so that he can take them to Hell when they die. It's a pretty well-drawn trope at this point, especially for this contest.

As for the song, man, I was really digging it to a point. I am a huge fan of the electroswing genre, and all the verses are so obviously inspired by it that I was really digging it, enough so that I was pretty willing to ignore the very weird syllable accentuation that kinda felt like they were trying to fit sentences into the lines without really planning out how they would flow beforehand. But then the chorus hits, and it was awful. I mean, I'm all for a sudden genre change, but that was bad.

Johnbobb posted...

57. Marley and Marley

Whoops!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/44ce91b4.jpg

56. Rogues Are We
Source: Holy Musical B@man!
Villain: Batman's Rogues Gallery
Nominator: jcgamer109 (3 left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5fkmZV6poA

Villainy: 4
Characterization: 6
Melody: 6
Total: 16/30

"Line up, sign up if youre looking for some sin / And a dirty way to win, yeah / Get pissed, enlist, tap into the devil within / Let the villainy begin"

So everything I just said about fansongs? I don't really apply that to Starkid musicals (the ones based on real IPs anyway) because they're very clearly not trying portray a certain interpretation of the characters in any of them. I mean, Two-Face in this musical is just a guy making squeaky "two" puns that everyone hates. In this song, everyone is just a parody of their inspiration, as seen when they very directly line up to announce what their thing is. "I made a fear toxin in the form of gas, then I wear a scary mask!" It's not exactly deep, but they do a decent job of showing who each character is, which is more than I can say for most songs with 6 main characters. Are they villainous? I mean, they outright say "we're villains" in a handful of ways, but they never really say what they plan to do beyond "take over your streets" and "revel in malevolence."

Man, I miss Jim Povolo. Jim can't really dance and he's not the greatest singers, but his characters are always a highlight of whatever scene they're in. I've mentioned before I'm a huge Starkid fan. That being said, HMB is not their best work. It's not their worst, and I still like Rogues Are We, but it's not the best song in this show and definitely isn't the best song they've done. There's a big range of vocal talents here, from Dylan Saunders, who is incredible, to Jim and Denise Donovan, who can be hilarious but never had a lot of solo vocal moments for a reason.

It always makes me laugh when they go to sing a few lines about themselves one by one, and then you get Mr. Freeze saying "I've got ice in my veins," and then just walking on.