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Unsuprised_Pika
02/27/24 12:03:06 PM
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Seaman_Prime
02/27/24 12:03:57 PM
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I cant accept bulbasaur as a toad, hes a dinosaur goddamnit
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ai123
02/27/24 12:08:39 PM
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I refuse to accept Bulbasaur is a frog. I've seen all the evidence, the statement from Ken Sugimori, and it hasn't moved me one inch. He's a little dinosaur thing, and that's that.

I guess I'll pick Poliwag, but only because of Politoed.


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Unsuprised_Pika
02/27/24 12:12:33 PM
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ai123 posted...
I refuse to accept Bulbasaur is a frog. I've seen all the evidence, the statement from Ken Sugimori, and it hasn't moved me one inch. He's a little dinosaur thing, and that's that.

I guess I'll pick Poliwag, but only because of Politoed.

Dinosaur frog

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ai123
02/27/24 2:56:18 PM
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Dinosaur frog
I've never said this on these boards before, but . . .

Shut the fuck up.

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Unsuprised_Pika
02/27/24 3:01:56 PM
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ai123 posted...
I've never said this on these boards before, but . . .

Shut the fuck up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebufo

Frogs existed in dinosaur times. And this frog was believed to have Scales/Scutes much like some dinosaurs and dinosaur descendants.

Also dinosaurs and frogs are both awesome and pokemom has mixed creatures together before.

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BucketCat
02/28/24 2:42:05 PM
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ai123 posted...
I refuse to accept Bulbasaur is a frog. I've seen all the evidence, the statement from Ken Sugimori, and it hasn't moved me one inch. He's a little dinosaur thing, and that's that.
frogs and every other amphibian/reptile are basically modern day dinosaurs so bulbasaur is basically a dino froggy

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viewmaster_pi
02/28/24 2:48:44 PM
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i'll always love good ol' poliwag, poliwhirl, and poliwhirl but he was working out

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VampireCoyote
02/28/24 2:50:52 PM
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why the leech seeding fuck is bulbasaur doing here

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Mizznox
02/28/24 2:54:14 PM
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Greninja is cool I guess, but I'm partial to Croagunk/Toxicroak

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Calwings
02/28/24 2:54:32 PM
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The Bulbasaur line's appearance and the Ken Sugimori statement that they were inspired by frogs is enough for me to count them.

Still voted for the Froakie line though.

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ellis123
02/28/24 2:55:10 PM
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Tadbulb so unpopular that TC can't even spell it.

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The_Korey
02/28/24 3:04:25 PM
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Yoshi's route in Smash Bros U has him fighting all the reptillian characters and Ivysaur is there. That kinda settled it for me. The Bulba line is only part frog at best.

Either way, I love ninjas. There's no topping Grenny. Toxicroak is a distant second.

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Unsuprised_Pika
02/28/24 3:08:03 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Tadbulb so unpopular that TC can't even spell it.

I fucking love Bellibolt (T_T)

I evolved mine super fast tho

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WilliamPorygon
02/28/24 3:09:27 PM
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Froakie but only because I don't consider Bulbasaur a frog/toad

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ellis123
02/28/24 3:27:00 PM
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Bulbasaur really is the case of an English localization breaking the minds of people.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/15892c01.png

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PowerOats
02/28/24 3:29:27 PM
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If Bulbasaur is a frog, why doesn't it use Vine Whip from it's mouth?
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Revelation34
03/01/24 9:31:04 AM
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Bulbasaur looks like a giant flower lizard.

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Shotgunnova
03/01/24 9:37:48 AM
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I choose the Bulbasaur line, then Politoed, then Croagunk, then throw the others in the trash.

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JoeDangIt
03/01/24 9:41:55 AM
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I chose tympole because someone has to.
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Unsuprised_Pika
03/01/24 9:45:07 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
I choose the Bulbasaur line, then Politoed, then Croagunk, then throw the others in the trash.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/edb4b494.jpg

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Rharyx211
03/01/24 11:45:14 PM
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Froakie is so cool I have to vote for it.

But after him, it's def the Poli- line.

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Agent_Stroud
03/02/24 12:07:46 AM
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I was gonna say Sobble, but then I realized that that Pokmon is based on a chameleon, not a frog. I guess Froakie, then.

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comicfire
03/02/24 12:12:28 AM
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Love me some Croagunk~ plus its shiny looks really nice

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Ubergeneral3
03/02/24 2:49:03 AM
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Seaman_Prime posted...
I cant accept bulbasaur as a toad, hes a dinosaur goddamnit
I didn't know it was a frog until lets go. This is one of the reasons why I think it's a bad pokemon design.

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jumi
03/02/24 2:56:37 AM
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Bulbasaur > Froakie >>> others

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ai123
03/02/24 3:02:48 AM
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That's not hopping. Looks more like galloping.

Frogs don't move like that.

Not a frog.

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StealThisSheen
03/02/24 3:08:14 AM
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ai123 posted...
That's not hopping. Looks more like galloping.

Frogs don't move like that.

Not a frog.

...Have you ever seen something gallop before? That is not a gallop. You can argue it's not a frog hop (I'd disagree), but it's certainly not a gallop.

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ai123
03/02/24 3:15:34 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
...Have you ever seen something gallop before? That is not a gallop. You can argue it's not a frog hop (I'd disagree), but it's certainly not a gallop.
Have you seen a frog hopping before? They don't push off their front and back legs equally like that.

This is 'Bulbasaur is a frog' nonsense is some of the worst misinformation seen on gamefaqs. Possibly anywhere, ever.

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StealThisSheen
03/02/24 3:18:28 AM
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ai123 posted...
Have you seen a frog hopping before? They don't push off their front and back legs equally like that.

This is 'Bulbasaur is a frog' nonsense is some of the worst misinformation seen on gamefaqs. Possibly anywhere, ever.

https://i.imgur.com/bzz70qS.gif

I mean, it's a hell of a lot closer to a frog hop than it is a gallop, in any case. Venusaur is doing the same general motion as a frog hop, he just obviously has less spingry-ness in his back legs since he's more short and stout. You can say it's not exactly a frog hop, but you sure as hell can't call what he does a "gallop."

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Agent_Stroud
03/02/24 3:22:31 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
https://i.imgur.com/bzz70qS.gif

I mean, it's a hell of a lot closer to a frog hop than it is a gallop, in any case.

Not to mention that Ken Sugimori apparently confirmed that not only is that evolutionary line based on frogs, but also that they designed Venusaur first and worked backwards, with Bulbasaur being the last of its evolutionary line to be created. This is according to Bulbapedias article on Bulbasaur, specifically the Origin subsection under Trivia, but they did cite the interview where this was allegedly stated (I cant read Japanese, so I cannot confirm for myself).

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ai123
03/02/24 3:37:45 AM
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Agent_Stroud posted...
Not to mention that Ken Sugimori apparently confirmed that not only is that evolutionary line based on frogs, but also that they designed Venusaur first and worked backwards, with Bulbasaur being the last of its evolutionary line to be created. This is according to Bulbapedias article on Bulbasaur, specifically the Origin subsection under Trivia, but they did cite the interview where this was allegedly stated (I cant read Japanese, so I cannot confirm for myself).
I don't dispute that Ken Sugimori thought he was drawing a frog.

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pegusus123456
03/02/24 3:42:23 AM
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It doesn't matter what the original artists intended.

Going by the Detective Pikachu movie, Jigglypuff is supposed to have fur.

That's fucked up and thus their intentions can be disregarded.

The Bulbasaur line is not a frog and Jigglypuff is a hairless balloon as God intended.

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Revelation34
03/02/24 6:50:17 AM
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SerperiorThanU posted...

Yeah, they're cartoon creatures which often aren't biologically correct, often at all.

Is there anywhere besides Detective Pikachu where it could be said that it's simply unique to there?


Pikachu doesn't talk.

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Fenrir_Howls
03/02/24 6:55:07 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
It doesn't matter what the original artists intended.

Going by the Detective Pikachu movie, Jigglypuff is supposed to have fur.

That's fucked up and thus their intentions can be disregarded.

The Bulbasaur line is not a frog and Jigglypuff is a hairless balloon as God intended.


Jigglypuff has a visible tuft of fur on its head and Wigglytuff has multiple Dex entries about its fur. Jigglypuff was never meant to be hairless.

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YugiNoob
03/02/24 6:55:57 AM
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Giacomo_Hawkins
03/02/24 7:39:10 AM
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Tympole for both having a tadpole stage and embracing water/ground amphibiousness.

Croagunk is also embraces very froglike aspects with poison/fighting, but doesn't have a tadpole stage of evolution.

Otherwise you have a lack of tadpole stage, lack of frog stage (poliwrath just doesn't look like a frog to me), water and electricity don't mix, and being a dinosaur.

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pegusus123456
03/02/24 7:42:00 AM
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Fenrir_Howls posted...
Jigglypuff has a visible tuft of fur on its head and Wigglytuff has multiple Dex entries about its fur. Jigglypuff was never meant to be hairless.
I'm aware of the mistakes they made in the Pokedex entry, it's safe to disregard them.

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The_Korey
03/02/24 7:48:26 AM
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Kan we really not just say Bulbasaur is a dino-frog hybrid? Possessing traits of both as well as traits that belong to neither, but make some sense for something of mixed biology?

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Fenrir_Howls
03/02/24 7:59:43 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...

I'm aware of the mistakes they made in the Pokedex entry, it's safe to disregard them.

Its not a mistake unless you delude yourself into believing it is. Its just one of the things that happens when drawing arent details. Theres a number of Pokmon that would be hairless by your argument despite being covered in fur otherwise. Same goes for ones with scales or feathers.

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pegusus123456
03/02/24 8:02:11 AM
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Fenrir_Howls posted...
Its not a mistake unless you delude yourself into believing it is. Its just one of the things that happens when drawing arent details. Theres a number of Pokmon that would be hairless by your argument despite being covered in fur otherwise. Same goes for ones with scales or feathers.
Jigglypuff is a balloon, just accept it

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Fenrir_Howls
03/02/24 8:13:19 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...

Jigglypuff is a balloon, just accept it

I do, I can also accept it has fur. Not hard to do.

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ai123
03/02/24 8:15:13 AM
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The_Korey posted...
Kan we really not just say Bulbasaur is a dino-frog hybrid? Possessing traits of both as well as traits that belong to neither, but make some sense for something of mixed biology?
I'm a very easy going and accomodating person, but I will never give an inch on this.

Not one fucking inch. I will 'make it my entire personality' (as the children say), if I have to.

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jumi
03/02/24 9:16:57 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Jigglypuff is a balloon, just accept it

A furry balloon.

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pegusus123456
03/02/24 2:51:10 PM
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jumi posted...
A furry balloon.
Sounds fake but I'm not one to criticize other people's headcanon

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