Palestina War 12: Attacking the worlds biggest refugee camp

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darkace77450 02/26/24 12:08:23 PM #401:	IceCreamOnStero posted... If anything, the hostages remaining in captivity is exactly what Israel wants. It's certainly what Netenyahu wants. The moment this conflict ends he has to start answering questions about how he allowed such a lapse in intel. And once that's over, he has to deal with corruption charges. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979052483] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>If anything, the hostages remaining in captivity is exactly what Israel wants.</quote>It's certainly what Netenyahu wants. The moment this conflict ends he has to start answering questions about how he allowed such a lapse in intel. And once that's over, he has to deal with corruption charges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 02/26/24 12:18:34 PM #402:	So where would we rank Israel now in terms of human rights abuse? Just behind Russia I assume. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:979052720] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>So where would we rank Israel now in terms of human rights abuse? Just behind Russia I assume. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/26/24 1:15:56 PM #403:	divot1338 posted... So where would we rank Israel now in terms of human rights abuse? Just behind Russia I assume. Well, on account of that no one else is seriously attempting to carry out a genocide right now (Russia are attempting an illegal annexation and committing some horrible atrocities in the process, sure, but their direct goal isn't genocide), I would say Israel automatically earn the position of worst human rights abusing nation in the world. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979053887] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>So where would we rank Israel now in terms of human rights abuse? Just behind Russia I assume.</quote>Well, on account of that no one else is seriously attempting to carry out a genocide right now (Russia are attempting an illegal annexation and committing some horrible atrocities in the process, sure, but their direct goal isn't genocide), I would say Israel automatically earn the position of worst human rights abusing nation in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 02/26/24 1:17:11 PM #404:	Trumble posted... Well, on account of that no one else is seriously attempting to carry out a genocide right now (Russia are attempting an illegal annexation and committing some horrible atrocities in the process, sure, but their direct goal isn't genocide), I would say Israel automatically earn the position of worst human rights abusing nation in the world. /laughs in Mandarin <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979053909] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Well, on account of that no one else is seriously attempting to carry out a genocide right now (Russia are attempting an illegal annexation and committing some horrible atrocities in the process, sure, but their direct goal isn't genocide), I would say Israel automatically earn the position of worst human rights abusing nation in the world.</quote>/laughs in Mandarin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/26/24 1:21:20 PM #405:	https://twitter.com/palestinercs/status/1762131185520492698?s=46 --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979054005] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/palestinercs/status/1762131185520492698?s=46 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/26/24 1:24:38 PM #406:	darkace77450 posted... /laughs in Mandarin I get your point (though generalizing it to a language, primarily spoken by the civilians who aren't responsible, is iffy...), and yeah, probably wasn't quite fair to say Israel are the only ones, although Israel are still significantly ahead of China in terms of brutality and speed. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979054066] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>/laughs in Mandarin</quote>I get your point (though generalizing it to a language, primarily spoken by the civilians who aren't responsible, is iffy...), and yeah, probably wasn't quite fair to say Israel are the only ones, although Israel are still significantly ahead of China in terms of brutality and speed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 02/26/24 1:25:58 PM #407:	Trumble posted... Well, on account of that no one else is seriously attempting to carry out a genocide right now (Russia are attempting an illegal annexation and committing some horrible atrocities in the process, sure, but their direct goal isn't genocide), I would say Israel automatically earn the position of worst human rights abusing nation in the world. Aren't some really bad shit happening in Sudan and other African countries --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:979054100] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Well, on account of that no one else is seriously attempting to carry out a genocide right now (Russia are attempting an illegal annexation and committing some horrible atrocities in the process, sure, but their direct goal isn't genocide), I would say Israel automatically earn the position of worst human rights abusing nation in the world.</quote>Aren't some really bad shit happening in Sudan and other African countries </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 02/26/24 1:30:59 PM #408:	Trumble posted... Well, on account of that no one else is seriously attempting to carry out a genocide right now (Russia are attempting an illegal annexation and committing some horrible atrocities in the process, sure, but their direct goal isn't genocide), I would say Israel automatically earn the position of worst human rights abusing nation in the world. Russia's foreign policy bible denies Ukrainian identity and sovereignty. When you pair that with the utter joy that Russians are going through as they whittle away at Ukraine frontline villages and launch waves of missiles, you're getting into genocide territory. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:979054206] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Well, on account of that no one else is seriously attempting to carry out a genocide right now (Russia are attempting an illegal annexation and committing some horrible atrocities in the process, sure, but their direct goal isn't genocide), I would say Israel automatically earn the position of worst human rights abusing nation in the world.</quote>Russia's foreign policy bible denies Ukrainian identity and sovereignty. When you pair that with the utter joy that Russians are going through as they whittle away at Ukraine frontline villages and launch waves of missiles, you're getting into genocide territory. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/26/24 1:33:12 PM #409:	Starks posted... Russia's foreign policy bible denies Ukrainian identity and sovereignty. When you pair that with the utter joy that Russians are going through as they whittle away at Ukraine frontline villages and launch waves of missiles, you're getting into genocide territory. Okay, let's go with the assumption that Russia's actions are indeed genocidal at least in intent. They still come nowhere near the sheer scale of Israel's actions, so Russia would still be a distant 2nd place. To be very clear (since this is CE...), I am not in any way saying Russia's actions are defensible, regardless of exactly what labels do or don't apply to it. The only point I am trying to make is that what Israel is doing is, by far, the worse of the two. Overall though, it doesn't remotely escape my notice that the majority of people who support one, support both. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979054271] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite><quote>Russia's foreign policy bible denies Ukrainian identity and sovereignty. When you pair that with the utter joy that Russians are going through as they whittle away at Ukraine frontline villages and launch waves of missiles, you're getting into genocide territory.</quote>Okay, let's go with the assumption that Russia's actions are indeed genocidal at least in intent. They still come nowhere near the sheer scale of Israel's actions, so Russia would still be a distant 2nd place.To be very clear (since this is CE...), I am not in any way saying Russia's actions are defensible, regardless of exactly what labels do or don't apply to it. The only point I am trying to make is that what Israel is doing is, by far, the worse of the two. Overall though, it doesn't remotely escape my notice that the majority of people who support one, support both. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/26/24 1:37:57 PM #410:	Trumble posted... Okay, let's go with the assumption that Russia's actions are indeed genocidal at least in intent. I mean, they did bring mobile crematoriums for a reason... --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979054348] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Okay, let's go with the assumption that Russia's actions are indeed genocidal at least in intent.</quote>I mean, they did bring mobile crematoriums for a reason... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 02/26/24 2:33:23 PM #411:	Trumble posted... I get your point (though generalizing it to a language, primarily spoken by the civilians who aren't responsible, is iffy...), and yeah, probably wasn't quite fair to say Israel are the only ones, although Israel are still significantly ahead of China in terms of brutality and speed. emblem-man posted... Aren't some really bad shit happening in Sudan and other African countries To the first poster, please be aware that this is an ongoing problem. The media just doesn't report if its not popular enough. https://www.lemkininstitute.com/active-genocide-alert To the second person, yes. It's unfortunate how many more are occurring in the last year alone. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:979055350] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I get your point (though generalizing it to a language, primarily spoken by the civilians who aren't responsible, is iffy...), and yeah, probably wasn't quite fair to say Israel are the only ones, although Israel are still significantly ahead of China in terms of brutality and speed.</quote>emblem-man posted... </cite><quote>Aren't some really bad shit happening in Sudan and other African countries</quote>To the first poster, please be aware that this is an ongoing problem. The media just doesn't report if its not popular enough. https://www.lemkininstitute.com/active-genocide-alertTo the second person, yes. It's unfortunate how many more are occurring in the last year alone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zoks 02/26/24 3:10:54 PM #412:	emblem-man posted... Aren't some really bad shit happening in Sudan and other African countries It's a matter of culpability. As a Westerner most people don't think their governments (which they view as an extension of themselves since they vote) have anything to do with the genocides in Africa and parts of Asia. Israel however has huge financial and political backing in the West, which they feel is happening without their consent, so that upsets them. --- Who Dat? https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/Zoks-810047183 <cite>Zoks posted [p:979056047] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>emblem-man posted... </cite><quote>Aren't some really bad shit happening in Sudan and other African countries</quote>It's a matter of culpability. As a Westerner most people don't think their governments (which they view as an extension of themselves since they vote) have anything to do with the genocides in Africa and parts of Asia. Israel however has huge financial and political backing in the West, which they feel is happening without their consent, so that upsets them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
willythemailboy 02/26/24 4:58:11 PM #413:	Trumble posted... Okay, let's go with the assumption that Russia's actions are indeed genocidal at least in intent. They still come nowhere near the sheer scale of Israel's actions, so Russia would still be a distant 2nd place. Only because they're spread over a wider area and population. In sheer numbers Russia is significantly ahead, not to mention the whole stealing children thing. --- There are four lights. <cite>willythemailboy posted [p:979057833] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Okay, let's go with the assumption that Russia's actions are indeed genocidal at least in intent. They still come nowhere near the sheer scale of Israel's actions, so Russia would still be a distant 2nd place.</quote>Only because they're spread over a wider area and population. In sheer numbers Russia is significantly ahead, not to mention the whole stealing children thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 02/26/24 5:15:37 PM #414:	Ukraine war: 453 children killed in 23 months. Gaza war: 12,300 children killed in <5 months. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-01-17/over-9-000-civilians-killed-in-ukraine-since-russia-invaded-kyiv https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979058122] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Ukraine war: 453 children killed in 23 months.Gaza war: 12,300 children killed in <5 months.https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-01-17/over-9-000-civilians-killed-in-ukraine-since-russia-invaded-kyivhttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/26/24 5:19:53 PM #415:	willythemailboy posted... Only because they're spread over a wider area and population. In sheer numbers Russia is significantly ahead, not to mention the whole stealing children thing. Russia have caused 31k military deaths and 10k civilian deaths confirmed, with the actual number for the latter likely to be a bit higher in reality but on that order of magnitude. If we're a bit generous on how much of an underestimate the latter is, we could maybe assume 50k to 60k total deaths. Israel have caused around 30k, with seperate numbers for civilian vs military not being readily available but clear evidence that the majority are civilians. The numbers on total deaths are considered pretty reliable. Those numbers do put Russia ahead on total deaths, but roughly even on civilian deaths. And that's before you take into account that Russia's war on Ukraine has been going on five times as long. Or compare damage to civilian infrastructure. Again to be very clear, both are utterly awful. But Israel is the worse of the two. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979058176] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>willythemailboy posted... </cite><quote>Only because they're spread over a wider area and population. In sheer numbers Russia is significantly ahead, not to mention the whole stealing children thing.</quote>Russia have caused 31k military deaths and 10k civilian deaths confirmed, with the actual number for the latter likely to be a bit higher in reality but on that order of magnitude. If we're a bit generous on how much of an underestimate the latter is, we could maybe assume 50k to 60k total deaths.Israel have caused around 30k, with seperate numbers for civilian vs military not being readily available but clear evidence that the majority are civilians. The numbers on total deaths are considered pretty reliable.Those numbers do put Russia ahead on total deaths, but roughly even on civilian deaths. And that's before you take into account that Russia's war on Ukraine has been going on five times as long. Or compare damage to civilian infrastructure.Again to be very clear, both are utterly awful. But Israel is the worse of the two. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 02/26/24 5:21:08 PM #416:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Because Israel does not care about freeing the hostages. If anything, the hostages remaining in captivity is exactly what Israel wants. They're a useful enotive bargaining chip that Israel can use convince gullible and/or misinformed that whatever they do is justified. Just look at some of the Israel shills on this board. They rejected plans tonget them back and killed some. --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:979058196] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Because Israel does not care about freeing the hostages. If anything, the hostages remaining in captivity is exactly what Israel wants. They're a useful enotive bargaining chip that Israel can use convince gullible and/or misinformed that whatever they do is justified. Just look at some of the Israel shills on this board.</quote>They rejected plans tonget them back and killed some. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 02/26/24 5:25:48 PM #417:	Both Israel and Hamas are rejecting ceasefire and pauses in the fighting. Neither of these fucks are willing to compromise and budge --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:979058282] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Both Israel and Hamas are rejecting ceasefire and pauses in the fighting. Neither of these fucks are willing to compromise and budge </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 02/26/24 5:30:18 PM #418:	Human Rights Watch: Israel Not Complying with World Court Order in Genocide Case The Israeli government has failed to comply with at least one measure in the legally binding order from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in South Africas genocide case, Human Rights Watch said today. Citing warnings about catastrophic conditions in Gaza, the court ordered Israel on January 26, 2024, to take immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian aid, and to report back on its compliance to the specific measures within one month. One month later, however, Israel continues to obstruct the provision of basic services and the entry and distribution within Gaza of fuel and lifesaving aid, acts of collective punishment that amount to war crimes and include the use of starvation of civilians as a weapon of war. Fewer trucks have entered Gaza and fewer aid missions have been permitted to reach northern Gaza in the several weeks since the ruling than in the weeks preceding it, according to United Nations Office of the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). More in link: https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/26/israel-not-complying-world-court-order-genocide-case --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979058367] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Human Rights Watch: Israel Not Complying with World Court Order in Genocide Case<quote>The Israeli government has failed to comply with at least one measure in the legally binding order from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in South Africas genocide case, Human Rights Watch said today. Citing warnings about catastrophic conditions in Gaza, the court ordered Israel on January 26, 2024, to take immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian aid, and to report back on its compliance to the specific measures within one month.One month later, however, Israel continues to obstruct the provision of basic services and the entry and distribution within Gaza of fuel and lifesaving aid, acts of collective punishment that amount to war crimes and include the use of starvation of civilians as a weapon of war. Fewer trucks have entered Gaza and fewer aid missions have been permitted to reach northern Gaza in the several weeks since the ruling than in the weeks preceding it, according to United Nations Office of the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).</quote>More in link:https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/26/israel-not-complying-world-court-order-genocide-case </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 02/26/24 6:07:47 PM #419:	As far as I know anyone can post a Putin Ukraine genocide topic. I cannot speak for tc but my concern for what is going on in Gaza+West Bank+East Jerusalem+Israel is based on what is going on there international protests not making a change a 25 yo American burned himself up in guilt Israel could not do this without the US veto in security council --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:979058987] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>As far as I know anyone can post a Putin Ukraine genocide topic. I cannot speak for tc but my concern for what is going on in Gaza+West Bank+East Jerusalem+Israel is based on what is going on thereinternational protests not making a changea 25 yo American burned himself up in guiltIsrael could not do this without the US veto in security council </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 02/26/24 6:32:12 PM #420:	darkace77450 posted... /laughs in Mandarin So tell me what war China is waging right now? --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:979059397] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>/laughs in Mandarin</quote>So tell me what war China is waging right now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 02/26/24 7:14:26 PM #421:	Fenriswolf posted... So tell me what war China is waging right now? China's treatment of the Uyghurs is no secret. Neither is your ceaseless campaign to defend them. So find someone else to indulge your horse shit, because I won't. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979060056] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Fenriswolf posted... </cite><quote>So tell me what war China is waging right now?</quote>China's treatment of the Uyghurs is no secret. Neither is your ceaseless campaign to defend them. So find someone else to indulge your horse shit, because I won't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/26/24 7:24:01 PM #422:	emblem-man posted... Aren't some really bad shit happening in Sudan and other African countries And China which its disenfranchisement of Tibet - censorship of the internet, not to mention its bullshit relationship with Hong Kong and Taiwan, North Korea where human rights simply do not exist, India where over ten million people suffer in slavery and have to put up with the bullshit caste system. Iran and Afghanistan where women cant show their face in public. But Israels the worst according to that guy. Because some terrorist organization committed a genocidal terror attack and they responded disproportionately. Obviously no one would confuse them with Canada or something like that, but there are atrocities that happen globally that dont get nearly as much traction as this war in Gaza has. And by the way, I know the caste system was outlawed in 1949, but look at this shit still happening today. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste-related_violence_in_India --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:979060212] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>emblem-man posted... </cite><quote>Aren't some really bad shit happening in Sudan and other African countries</quote>And China which its disenfranchisement of Tibet - censorship of the internet, not to mention its bullshit relationship with Hong Kong and Taiwan, North Korea where human rights simply do not exist, India where over ten million people suffer in slavery and have to put up with the bullshit caste system. Iran and Afghanistan where women cant show their face in public.But Israels the worst according to that guy. Because some terrorist organization committed a genocidal terror attack and they responded disproportionately.Obviously no one would confuse them with Canada or something like that, but there are atrocities that happen globally that dont get nearly as much traction as this war in Gaza has.And by the way, I know the caste system was outlawed in 1949, but look at this shit still happening today.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste-related_violence_in_India </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/26/24 8:14:11 PM #423:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Because some terrorist organization committed a genocidal terror attack Huh, this is where you find the term "genocidal" to be apt. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979061121] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Because some terrorist organization committed a genocidal terror attack</quote>Huh, this is where you find the term "genocidal" to be apt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/26/24 8:22:22 PM #424:	DrizztLink posted... Huh, this is where you find the term "genocidal" to be apt. Do you see any other goal for October 7th? --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:979061320] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Huh, this is where you find the term "genocidal" to be apt.</quote>Do you see any other goal for October 7th? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/26/24 8:27:01 PM #425:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Do you see any other goal for October 7th? I dunno, do you think those toddlers the IDF "heroes" sniped were in charge of watching the hostages? I just wanna know where the line is drawn, you get real uppity when other people talk about genocide but use it pretty freely yourself. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979061407] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Do you see any other goal for October 7th?</quote>I dunno, do you think those toddlers the IDF "heroes" sniped were in charge of watching the hostages?I just wanna know where the line is drawn, you get real uppity when other people talk about genocide but use it pretty freely yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/26/24 9:18:55 PM #426:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... But Israels the worst according to that guy. Because some terrorist organization committed a genocidal terror attack and they responded disproportionately. You continue to get "genocidal" wrong. Hamas has a genocidal ideology. A singular terrorist attack, unless it is of such scale that it could wipe out an entire country or people, is not genocidal. They'd love to have the ability, but they don't have it. A military campaign that deliberately and systematically ethnically cleanses and forces a people into a migration while their abandoned homes are being razed and their people being very discriminately bombed and sniped and mortared and... is genocidal. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979062408] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>But Israels the worst according to that guy. Because some terrorist organization committed a genocidal terror attack and they responded disproportionately.</quote>You continue to get "genocidal" wrong.Hamas has a genocidal ideology. A singular terrorist attack, unless it is of such scale that it could wipe out an entire country or people, is not genocidal. They'd love to have the ability, but they don't have it.A military campaign that deliberately and systematically ethnically cleanses and forces a people into a migration while their abandoned homes are being razed and their people being very discriminately bombed and sniped and mortared and... is genocidal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/26/24 10:43:46 PM #427:	DnDer posted... You continue to get "genocidal" wrong. Hamas has a genocidal ideology. A singular terrorist attack, unless it is of such scale that it could wipe out an entire country or people, is not genocidal. Thats where you and I fundamentally disagree. https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/what-is-genocide The definition of genocide, which apparently I learned here, involves five ways in which it occurs. And October 7th certainly applies towards the first three. If you want to hold what is happening in Gaza to those same standards, no one, not even me could possibly argue with you. But the way the definition has been described, at least to me, the limits to which someone is capable of committing genocide arent taken into account when doing it. The assholes who committed the October 7th were clearly moving as far as way as they possibly could from Gaza to kill as many people and take as many hostages as they could, and the repeated calls for additional events to occur as well as the rocket attacks on civilians are clearly designed to make sure that conditions in Israel get reduced to bring about its total or partial destruction. After all, who in their right mind would want to live in an area where every day rockets are being fired at your house. Just because the Israeli military is making it near impossible for them to do it again, that doesnt dismiss what happened on that day. The Israelis made the dumbest comment they could have made when they called October 7th their 9/11. Because it wasnt, not even close. October 7th was the start of an attempt to drive the Israelis to the sea. Just using the definition provided, it was a genocidal event. And unfortunately, the IDF has responded in such a way that can only be described as another. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:979063747] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>You continue to get "genocidal" wrong.Hamas has a genocidal ideology. A singular terrorist attack, unless it is of such scale that it could wipe out an entire country or people, is not genocidal. </quote>Thats where you and I fundamentally disagree.https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/what-is-genocideThe definition of genocide, which apparently I learned here, involves five ways in which it occurs. And October 7th certainly applies towards the first three. If you want to hold what is happening in Gaza to those same standards, no one, not even me could possibly argue with you. But the way the definition has been described, at least to me, the limits to which someone is capable of committing genocide arent taken into account when doing it. The assholes who committed the October 7th were clearly moving as far as way as they possibly could from Gaza to kill as many people and take as many hostages as they could, and the repeated calls for additional events to occur as well as the rocket attacks on civilians are clearly designed to make sure that conditions in Israel get reduced to bring about its total or partial destruction. After all, who in their right mind would want to live in an area where every day rockets are being fired at your house. Just because the Israeli military is making it near impossible for them to do it again, that doesnt dismiss what happened on that day.The Israelis made the dumbest comment they could have made when they called October 7th their 9/11. Because it wasnt, not even close. October 7th was the start of an attempt to drive the Israelis to the sea. Just using the definition provided, it was a genocidal event. And unfortunately, the IDF has responded in such a way that can only be described as another. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/27/24 1:45:13 AM #428:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... And October 7th certainly applies towards the first three. And October 8 forward establishes Israel has gone all-in on *all five. But I don't think I've ever seen you say that. The UN Charter on genocide, where those 5 points you cited came from (I'll link their FAQ sheet below), talk about the need to establish intent and that the targets be deliberate and of that specific group. I don't think an international music festival qualifies. Rocket attacks on Israel? Genocidal. Bombings of holy sites to prevent worship? Genocidal. Suicide bombs of busses full of Israelis? Genocidal. International music festival full of acts and people from across the world? Not genocidal. Hamas has a history of genocidal acts. October 7 does not meet the threshold of evidence/definition to qualify as an act of attempted genocide. Point to any random day or act before October 7 that was hamas-organized violence against Israel, and I can almost guarantee its universal condemnation as genocidal. And you have so many other examples you can point to in the 70 years of Israeli occupation of Palestine, but you don't. You don't point to any of them. You want to use October 7 as a rallying cry against Palestine to excuse what Israel is doing. You've been doing it for weeks in every I/P thread. At least you stopped saying "self-defense." Hopefully that means you learned that Israel's systemic and ongoing genocide isn't in self-defense and not just you learning to get better talking points. SOURCE: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/Genocide%20Convention-FactSheet-ENG.pdf FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Just because the Israeli military is making it near impossible for them to do it again, that doesnt dismiss what happened on that day. It's statements like this that make you look like someone who's into the genocide of the Palestinian people, and excusing anything Israel does as well and good, because "it's making it impossible to do again." No shit. You can't do it again when the people no longer exist. Which is Israel's goal, and has been for a long, long time. But tell me you're not. Prove me wrong. Tell me you're not into the genocide of the Palestinian people. Start by calling it what it is: Israel deliberately and actively and systematically (say it with me) genociding* Palestine. FlyEaglesFly24 posted... And unfortunately, the IDF has responded in such a way that can only be described as another. Another what? You were right there. And you still didn't bring yourself to say it. You couldn't even type two more words? "...another genocidal event." Bro. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979065742] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>And October 7th certainly applies towards the first three.</quote>And October 8 forward establishes Israel has gone all-in on all five. But I don't think I've ever seen you say that.The UN Charter on genocide, where those 5 points you cited came from (I'll link their FAQ sheet below), talk about the need to establish intent and that the targets be deliberate and of that specific group. I don't think an international music festival qualifies.Rocket attacks on Israel? Genocidal.Bombings of holy sites to prevent worship? Genocidal.Suicide bombs of busses full of Israelis? Genocidal.International music festival full of acts and people from across the world? Not genocidal.Hamas has a history of genocidal acts. October 7 does not meet the threshold of evidence/definition to qualify as an act of attempted genocide. Point to any random day or act before October 7 that was hamas-organized violence against Israel, and I can almost guarantee its universal condemnation as genocidal. And you have so many other examples you can point to in the 70 years of Israeli occupation of Palestine, but you don't. You don't point to any of them. You want to use October 7 as a rallying cry against Palestine to excuse what Israel is doing. You've been doing it for weeks in every I/P thread.At least you stopped saying "self-defense." Hopefully that means you learned that Israel's systemic and ongoing genocide isn't in self-defense and not just you learning to get better talking points.SOURCE: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/Genocide%20Convention-FactSheet-ENG.pdfFlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Just because the Israeli military is making it near impossible for them to do it again, that doesnt dismiss what happened on that day.</quote>It's statements like this that make you look like someone who's into the genocide of the Palestinian people, and excusing anything Israel does as well and good, because "it's making it impossible to do again."No shit. You can't do it again when the people no longer exist. Which is Israel's goal, and has been for a long, long time.But tell me you're not. Prove me wrong. Tell me you're not into the genocide of the Palestinian people. Start by calling it what it is: Israel deliberately and actively and systematically (say it with me) genociding Palestine.FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>And unfortunately, the IDF has responded in such a way that can only be described as another.</quote>Another what? You were right there. And you still didn't bring yourself to say it. You couldn't even type two more words? "...another genocidal event."Bro. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/27/24 4:26:02 AM #429:	https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/details-40-day-gaza-truce-draft-proposal-being-studied-by-hamas-2024-02-27/ --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979066743] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/details-40-day-gaza-truce-draft-proposal-being-studied-by-hamas-2024-02-27/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/27/24 5:47:53 AM #430:	Foppe posted... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/details-40-day-gaza-truce-draft-proposal-being-studied-by-hamas-2024-02-27/ Cool. I'd be happier with stronger language, like "guarantee" instead of "commitment," though. And maybe some agreement to oversight that the obligations on even this first part are met by the parties. Preferably by the UN and not the US. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979067115] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/details-40-day-gaza-truce-draft-proposal-being-studied-by-hamas-2024-02-27/</quote>Cool. I'd be happier with stronger language, like "guarantee" instead of "commitment," though. And maybe some agreement to oversight that the obligations on even this first part are met by the parties. Preferably by the UN and not the US. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reimu 02/27/24 12:44:38 PM #431:	Israel accused of deliberately starving Gaza civilians as war plans leave Netanyahu "increasingly isolated" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-starvation-un-netanyahu-isolated-biden-rafah-offensive/ --- Eh, whatever. <cite>Reimu posted [p:979073198] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Israel accused of deliberately starving Gaza civilians as war plans leave Netanyahu "increasingly isolated"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-starvation-un-netanyahu-isolated-biden-rafah-offensive/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 02/27/24 1:02:16 PM #432:	There's municipal elections in Israel today. Not expecting any surprises. Somewhat hard to gauge since the parties are local and different from the national ones. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:979073576] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>There's municipal elections in Israel today. Not expecting any surprises. Somewhat hard to gauge since the parties are local and different from the national ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/28/24 12:24:04 PM #433:	Representatives of Hamas and Fatah will meet in Moscow to discuss the formation of a unified government and the rebuilding of Gaza. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979092420] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Representatives of Hamas and Fatah will meet in Moscow to discuss the formation of a unified government and the rebuilding of Gaza. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/28/24 12:37:29 PM #434:	Foppe posted... Representatives of Hamas and Fatah will meet in Moscow to discuss the formation of a unified government and the rebuilding of Gaza. Can't we have an election that replaces hamas first? That also doesn't occur in Moscow? Didn't the surrounding countries pledge to pay for the rebuild of Gaza under specific circumstances? I know I made an offhand comment about if they were just saying it because they knew they'd never have to, or if they really wanted to do it... but I think that was a thread or two ago, and I can't remember their terms and conditions. I'm 90% sure none of it involved Russia though. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979092671] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Representatives of Hamas and Fatah will meet in Moscow to discuss the formation of a unified government and the rebuilding of Gaza.</quote>Can't we have an election that replaces hamas first? That also doesn't occur in Moscow?Didn't the surrounding countries pledge to pay for the rebuild of Gaza under specific circumstances? I know I made an offhand comment about if they were just saying it because they knew they'd never have to, or if they really wanted to do it... but I think that was a thread or two ago, and I can't remember their terms and conditions. I'm 90% sure none of it involved Russia though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/28/24 12:39:51 PM #435:	Russia wants to look good. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979092728] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Russia wants to look good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 02/28/24 12:47:55 PM #436:	DnDer posted... Can't we have an election that replaces hamas first? We can't even get the citizens of Gaza food or medical supplies. How are we going to get them ballots? <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979092914] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Can't we have an election that replaces hamas first?</quote>We can't even get the citizens of Gaza food or medical supplies. How are we going to get them ballots?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 02/28/24 12:49:11 PM #437:	Foppe posted... Russia wants to look good. I mean, doesn't everyone? Their reputation has gone to shit after Ukraine invasion, they need some propaganda as the peacekeeper instead of warmonger. The question is why US doesn't facilitate the meeting? I think we can guess why. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:979092946] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Russia wants to look good.</quote>I mean, doesn't everyone?Their reputation has gone to shit after Ukraine invasion, they need some propaganda as the peacekeeper instead of warmonger.The question is why US doesn't facilitate the meeting? I think we can guess why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/28/24 12:49:16 PM #438:	How do you create a fair election in a warzone? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979092949] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>How do you create a fair election in a warzone? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/28/24 12:49:34 PM #439:	darkace77450 posted... We can't even get the citizens of Gaza food or medical supplies. How are we going to get them ballots? One would assume food first. But that's a good point. Why are we discussion unified government when we haven't even unified people with food against the famine? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979092953] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>We can't even get the citizens of Gaza food or medical supplies. How are we going to get them ballots?</quote>One would assume food first. But that's a good point.Why are we discussion unified government when we haven't even unified people with food against the famine? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/28/24 2:22:53 PM #440:	Foppe posted... Representatives of Hamas and Fatah will meet in Moscow to discuss the formation of a unified government and the rebuilding of Gaza. Im not a poly sci expert, but a unified government with Hamas and Fatah isnt going to work. The West isnt going to cooperate with an organization that it considers to be a terrorist organization, and the Israelis will look at it as a roadblock for peace. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:979094757] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Representatives of Hamas and Fatah will meet in Moscow to discuss the formation of a unified government and the rebuilding of Gaza.</quote>Im not a poly sci expert, but a unified government with Hamas and Fatah isnt going to work. The West isnt going to cooperate with an organization that it considers to be a terrorist organization, and the Israelis will look at it as a roadblock for peace. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zoks 02/28/24 4:22:37 PM #441:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Im not a poly sci expert, but a unified government with Hamas and Fatah isnt going to work. The West isnt going to cooperate with an organization that it considers to be a terrorist organization, and the Israelis will look at it as a roadblock for peace. Hamas has a monopoly on political power in Gaza. Realistically the peace process should consider how to disarm and integrate Hamas into the government, because all you are likely to get out of Gaza is people changing the shirts they are wearing if you say no Hamas at all. It's still going to be the same guys. --- Who Dat? https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/Zoks-810047183 <cite>Zoks posted [p:979096956] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Im not a poly sci expert, but a unified government with Hamas and Fatah isnt going to work. The West isnt going to cooperate with an organization that it considers to be a terrorist organization, and the Israelis will look at it as a roadblock for peace.</quote>Hamas has a monopoly on political power in Gaza. Realistically the peace process should consider how to disarm and integrate Hamas into the government, because all you are likely to get out of Gaza is people changing the shirts they are wearing if you say no Hamas at all. It's still going to be the same guys. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 02/28/24 4:45:39 PM #442:	Zoks posted... Hamas has a monopoly on political power in Gaza. Probably because Israel keeps bombing Gaza and Hamas are seen as the predominant mode of resistance. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:979097359] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Zoks posted... </cite><quote>Hamas has a monopoly on political power in Gaza. </quote>Probably because Israel keeps bombing Gaza and Hamas are seen as the predominant mode of resistance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 02/28/24 9:39:48 PM #443:	The West isnt going to cooperate with an organization that it considers to be a terrorist organization, and the Israelis will look at it as a roadblock for peace. So how does that explain why Western politicians continue to supply groups like the MEK and even got them off the designated terrorist list, simply because the target of their terrorist attacks are unworthy victims aka Iran? --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:979102207] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote><quote>The West isnt going to cooperate with an organization that it considers to be a terrorist organization, and the Israelis will look at it as a roadblock for peace.</quote>So how does that explain why Western politicians continue to supply groups like the MEK and even got them off the designated terrorist list, simply because the target of their terrorist attacks are unworthy victims aka Iran? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 02/28/24 9:47:37 PM #444:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Probably because Israel keeps bombing Gaza and Hamas are seen as the predominant mode of resistance. They rule out of fear and hidden truth. Any funds they drum up don't go to the people to govern. It went to military supplies and the militant. Before the Oct attack, there were many more attacks that were failures. After this successful one. We are seeing Isreal in the worst light possible. Isreal was expanding slowly before and creating new fences. Hamas was created by Israel in an attempt to the area nearest to the border. That plan backfired once they gained the control. Isreal is now conveniently condemning the area that they helped them gain control of. Before the war, Israel was actively funding hamas. Everything is coming full circle and they want to erase their slate clean in the worst way possible. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:979102333] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Probably because Israel keeps bombing Gaza and Hamas are seen as the predominant mode of resistance.</quote>They rule out of fear and hidden truth. Any funds they drum up don't go to the people to govern. It went to military supplies and the militant. Before the Oct attack, there were many more attacks that were failures. After this successful one. We are seeing Isreal in the worst light possible. Isreal was expanding slowly before and creating new fences. Hamas was created by Israel in an attempt to the area nearest to the border. That plan backfired once they gained the control. Isreal is now conveniently condemning the area that they helped them gain control of. Before the war, Israel was actively funding hamas. Everything is coming full circle and they want to erase their slate clean in the worst way possible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 02/28/24 9:59:45 PM #445:	Reimu posted... Israel accused of deliberately starving Gaza civilians as war plans leave Netanyahu "increasingly isolated" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-starvation-un-netanyahu-isolated-biden-rafah-offensive/ Well, this has actually been proven, already. One of the things that pissed me off about the IDF actions is when they bunt food rations in one of the earlier parts of their invasion, a part that was so starved they absolutely needed these food, and waxing shitty ass poetry about bring light to darkness while bring food that assuredly led to deaths via starvation. They are the darkness. They're monsters equal to that of the Russian army. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:979102518] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Reimu posted... </cite><quote>Israel accused of deliberately starving Gaza civilians as war plans leave Netanyahu "increasingly isolated"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-starvation-un-netanyahu-isolated-biden-rafah-offensive/</quote>Well, this has actually been proven, already.One of the things that pissed me off about the IDF actions is when they bunt food rations in one of the earlier parts of their invasion, a part that was so starved they absolutely needed these food, and waxing shitty ass poetry about bring light to darkness while bring food that assuredly led to deaths via starvation. They are the darkness.They're monsters equal to that of the Russian army. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Music_Rock_Cat 02/29/24 12:40:24 AM #446:	I was reading some article on that Air Force Member who passed away and it said something about how US Soldiers were involved in the genocide secretly or some shit like that. Idk it was just like woah --- KOALA RPG NOW ON ITCH.IO FOR FREE https://cyanideangelstudio.itch.io/koala-rpg <cite>Music_Rock_Cat posted [p:979104707] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>I was reading some article on that Air Force Member who passed away and it said something about how US Soldiers were involved in the genocide secretly or some shit like that. Idk it was just like woah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
willythemailboy 02/29/24 1:21:53 AM #447:	Zoks posted... Hamas has a monopoly on political power in Gaza. Realistically the peace process should consider how to disarm and integrate Hamas into the government, because all you are likely to get out of Gaza is people changing the shirts they are wearing if you say no Hamas at all. It's still going to be the same guys. You can't "integrate" Hamas into a Palestinian government because Hamas already is the Palestinian government for just under half the Palestinian population. Literally the best we can hope for is a situation even more fucked up than the de-Ba'athification of Iraq, and that led to years of insurgency. --- There are four lights. <cite>willythemailboy posted [p:979105052] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Zoks posted... </cite><quote>Hamas has a monopoly on political power in Gaza. Realistically the peace process should consider how to disarm and integrate Hamas into the government, because all you are likely to get out of Gaza is people changing the shirts they are wearing if you say no Hamas at all. It's still going to be the same guys.</quote>You can't "integrate" Hamas into a Palestinian government because Hamas already is the Palestinian government for just under half the Palestinian population. Literally the best we can hope for is a situation even more fucked up than the de-Ba'athification of Iraq, and that led to years of insurgency. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/29/24 1:46:27 AM #448:	https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/food-aid-reaches-north-gaza-for-first-time-in-weeks-00143998 Food aid reaches Northern Gaza. Hamas is found to sell donated food on the Rafah market instead of giving it to people in need. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979105236] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/food-aid-reaches-north-gaza-for-first-time-in-weeks-00143998Food aid reaches Northern Gaza.Hamas is found to sell donated food on the Rafah market instead of giving it to people in need. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 02/29/24 8:07:03 AM #449:	https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-health-authorities-say-israeli-fire-gaza-city-kills-70-2024-02-29/ Health authorities in Gaza said on Thursday Israeli fire on people waiting for aid near Gaza City had killed 104 Palestinians and wounded 280, with one hospital saying it had received 10 bodies and dozens of injured patients. A spokesperson for Israel's military said there was no knowledge of shelling at that location. The military later said dozens of people were hurt as a result of pushing and trampling when aid trucks arrived in northern Gaza. An Israeli source said troops opened fire at "several people" in the crowd who posed a threat to them. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979107863] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-health-authorities-say-israeli-fire-gaza-city-kills-70-2024-02-29/<quote>Health authorities in Gaza said on Thursday Israeli fire on people waiting for aid near Gaza City had killed 104 Palestinians and wounded 280, with one hospital saying it had received 10 bodies and dozens of injured patients.A spokesperson for Israel's military said there was no knowledge of shelling at that location. The military later said dozens of people were hurt as a result of pushing and trampling when aid trucks arrived in northern Gaza.An Israeli source said troops opened fire at "several people" in the crowd who posed a threat to them.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/29/24 8:38:55 AM #450:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Hamas are seen as the predominant mode of resistance. Thats not what the reports are saying now. A lot of Palestinians in Gaza are just as pissed at Hamas as they are at Israel. https://www.npr.org/2024/02/08/1229749527/in-gaza-anger-grows-at-hamas And also, for the record, if this truck thing derails the hostage and ceasefire negotiations, Im done. Just flat out done. Theres just no excuse for that. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:979108186] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Hamas are seen as the predominant mode of resistance.</quote>Thats not what the reports are saying now. A lot of Palestinians in Gaza are just as pissed at Hamas as they are at Israel.https://www.npr.org/2024/02/08/1229749527/in-gaza-anger-grows-at-hamasAnd also, for the record, if this truck thing derails the hostage and ceasefire negotiations, Im done. Just flat out done. Theres just no excuse for that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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