Board 8 > Super Mario Bros. Wonder review zone

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The jet run "coyote time" was something that took me a while to get used to. It's good that the game's collectibles basically tell you exactly when to jump because I don't think I ever truly mastered the timing on that.

Spin boost was very easy though. Probably the easiest one.

Final Final took me about 45 minutes, and I gave up on Champion's Road after over an hour. Different difficulty for different folks I guess!

I was trying for a long time starting from the first checkpoint with no power up. Things turned around fast when I restarted the level to take a power up farther in! Plus I'd gotten so good at the second section by then

There aren't any hidden power ups anywhere in Final Final right?

I never restarted the level, lol. Also never used my stored power up. Might've made the level harder for me by doing that...

yeah I never restarted the level, instead used up like 40 lives going off of checkpoints (I was 99 before starting, finished with in the 60s of lives and who knows how many I gained from coins)

like I said though first time I did at least still have one stored power-up to spend on the spring segment, but not my second attempt to get the 10-coin I missed

And World 5 is the first special stage I get the checkmark for. After like 30 lives. It probably would've been much less if I had made the effort to get a power-up after each loss, but ehh.

World 3 is the only other special stage I've beaten, but I missed the first 10 coin and the flag.

Credits rolled. Don't know if I'll push through all the special stages, but I mostly had a fun time.

I found the Special stages very fun, but I can see not being into them.

I think the first two specials were actually the most difficult, and most ended up just more about a fun ride rather than being about a challenge.

Man I really expected a last phase for the final boss but it just kinda ended. Just slightly disappointed in that but otherwise it was fun. What a fantastic game!

I just completed special 1 with only a few deaths, but then died probably 50+ times on special 2. It may just be beyond the capabilities of my reflexes. Most runs end in the same spot when it gets to climbing the 2-block walls, and I know my problem is that I'm not letting go of A fast enough to press it again, but knowing that doesn't seem to make it any easier to improve it.

mnk posted...

I just completed special 1 with only a few deaths, but then died probably 50+ times on special 2. It may just be beyond the capabilities of my reflexes. Most runs end in the same spot when it gets to climbing the 2-block walls, and I know my problem is that I'm not letting go of A fast enough to press it again, but knowing that doesn't seem to make it any easier to improve it.

Climb to the Beat is probably the second hardest level in the game in my opinion.

Part of the issue I had is that walljumping feels a bit wonky. The main issue I had is that it feels like the game expects you to still be pressing in the direction of the wall when you press jump. So if you change directions to early in your walljump, you'll fall instead.

Yeah, the game doesn't just let you instantaneously wall jump, which is kind of annoying. You have to wait for that split second for the character to actually "grab" the wall first.

I suppose the problem could also be that I'm trying to jump too fast. Slowing down at that part feels so counterintuitive, though.

What I found helpful was going to W2's Search Party and just practicing my wall jumps there until I was confident I could do them fast

It turns out failing this stage over and over and over again is at least a decent way to grind for standees. Only need four more!

VintageGin posted...

Climb to the Beat is probably the second hardest level in the game in my opinion.

LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, the game doesn't just let you instantaneously wall jump, which is kind of annoying. You have to wait for that split second for the character to actually "grab" the wall first.

both of these

BTW you can instantly wall jump. You just need to keep holding the control stick in the direction of the wall as you jump instead of changing to the direction you're jumping in. Took a bit to get used to doing that

mfw I make it the furthest I get, get past the 1-block jumps, and then the long platform disappears under me... and I notice as I'm dying that there are MORE 1-block jumps after that. ;_;

Yeah that's when I decided to take a break from that level lol

Yeah the disappearances REALLY speed up. At first it's really slow and you have to actively wait for the next platform to appear, but towards the end they disappear faster than your top speed.

It feels like there'd be no way to get all the 10-coins AND beat the stage in one go.

omgggggg I did ittttttttt

I was so scared when I got to the top that the flag would also require speed and reflexes, but phew.

Grimlyn posted...

Yeah the disappearances REALLY speed up. At first it's really slow and you have to actively wait for the next platform to appear, but towards the end they disappear faster than your top speed.

It feels like there'd be no way to get all the 10-coins AND beat the stage in one go.

it's been done, though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s3Kp4ZJYrE

I began this game a bit late but I really like it. Just playing as Mario offline, I have beaten the first three worlds along with every available level as well.

Climb to the Beat was probably the most fun level so far. I like Mario levels where you do precision jumping in a rush. But also platforming is my gaming specialty so I didn't struggle either.

Hbthebattle posted...

it's been done, though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s3Kp4ZJYrE

Geez that was the fastest wall jumping I've ever seen.

Special 1-7 100%ed. The hardest part of 7 for me was landing on the goomba in the beginning. >_>

Climb to the beated in 15 lives

Finished completing the game, I loved it the whole time. Even went and beat Climb to the Beat with the invisibility badge on just because.

_Blur_ posted...

Yeah Champion's Road is the runner up for me. I think if you had to do Champion's Road as Mario, it might take the cake. But being able to use Rosalina or Peach makes it a lot easier.

Just in pure time, pretty sure Champion's Road took me around an hour first try and this was over an hour and a half. Must have been 50+ attempts.

I watched PangaeaPanga play though this game on Twitch and it took him about 26 minutes to beat the final level (going off the Twitch VOD). Though he's a god gamer when it comes to Mario games due to his prior experience with SMW kaizo ROM hacks and Mario Maker as well. He makes extremely difficult levels in Mario Maker.

Here's a edited version of Panga playing through the final level of this game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ZL3el6vd4

Base game of this was way too easy. Cool game though. I'm not sure it's notably better than NSMB.

I just can't comprehend how anyone can say that with a straight face.

I just finished world 2 and I my overwhelming feeling is definitely that's it's another 2D Mario. It's nice and all but I miss the gameplay innovation of the 3D ones.

Also warm take but badges make the game worse

Waluigi1 posted...

I just can't comprehend how anyone can say that with a straight face.

Honestly, it's like how some people have a refined palate with varietals of red wine and stuff. I have no doubt they know what they're talking about, but it all tastes the same to me. Same thing with 2D mario games. To me, everything since Super Mario World has had the same level of high quality(except for NSMB2 which I recognize is kind of weird/sub-par).

I think I legitimately hurt my hand playing Climb to the Beat just now. I've never realized how uncomfortable the buttons can be in handheld mode, but the rhythmic timing with one button while also needing to hold down the other really does not feel good. I keep losing because the muscle in my hand suddenly cramps up.

finished the final special world level and got all flagpoles, all 10 coins, all wonder seeds, and all standees. game is officially complete :)

the last segment of the last level and its flagpole are a bitch though. i lost 30 lives the first time and around 30 doing it again because i missed the damn flagpole.

great game, probably my favorite 2d mario, though i think it's a bit on the easy side compared to the older ones

Didn't realize flower coins had a limit and I hit 999 right as I got the last seed for an area, so my 100 coin bonus was wasted. 0/10 returning game

Through probably 90% or so of the game and Climb to the Beat is the only level so far Id say is hot garbage

Man, would not have thought the 2nd level in the game would have such a hidden secret exit.

I was starting to freak out on having several missing stages in World 1. Now it's all cleared.

legit I think that's the hardest secret exit to find

Pretty much every other one is telegraphed in some way, theres really no indication that anything is there for that one.

The red pipe in the foreground that pops up after/during the wonder flower segment is the indication that there's something. But finding that something without knowing where to look is another thing.

100% completed the game with all 6 file medals.

What a wonderful game through and through.

changmas posted...

the last segment of the last level and its flagpole are a bitch though. i lost 30 lives the first time and around 30 doing it again because i missed the damn flagpole.

Exactly my thoughts on the final level. Holy shit was Nintendo cruel putting that there. I seriously doubt I would have finished it as soon as I did had I not been playing online and a very kind soul was helping me with the revives throughout the whole level. We became friends on Switch afterwards.

30 lives is pretty impressive I'd say! Definitely lost 60ish myself, though I purposely played it offline for the challenge. Luckily got all the coins and the top of the flagpole my first run.

Been itching to play this again already. Probably will a little closer to Christmas. Be about a 2 month wait that way. Also might go back and play NSMBU/NSLU first. I kinda love that game, but this blows it out the water so much it will be interesting to see if it holds up.

I beat the Final Final Test offline first just as a matter of pride, but it took an embarrassingly long time for me to get the hang of the end of the Spring section
and it probably was responsible for like 80% of my deaths there.

I did enjoy the level enough to go back while online and help people get through it though. Got two or three friend requests from that

Spring & Invisible are the 2 toughest challenges, far & away

Wall climb was just as hard as those for me tbh

Wall Climb isn't so bad once you figure out that you're supposed to just zoom through it. If you go at top speed the Lil sparkies and hotheads don't matter.

How does one unlock final final?

All Wonder seeds, all purple coins, all top of flagpole finishes. Each world should have a green checkmark if you're done there.

Waluigi1 posted...

How does one unlock final final?

Get every purple 10 coin, wonder seed, and flagpole tip