Current Events > One Reason the Trump Fever Won't Break, Christian see Trump as God's chosen one.

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10/02/23 6:03:13 PM
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Necronmon
10/02/23 6:04:16 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/opinion/christian-nationalism-trump-renew-america.html

Anyone who really gives a damn about Christianity has to start making it clear, well, even more clear that if you are Trump supporter you are not any thing close to a Christian.

As this article shows, Trump supporters don't give a damn about Jesus or anything else about the religion, they just back Jesus because" He's the one that's suppose to win." And all that they care about is " Being the winners and making the losers pay."

A good chunk of them just want to revert completely back to tribal fury, giving up on all civilization so they can just do whatever whenever.

I know the Pope and others have already condemned them but it has to be clearer and clearer that if you like Trump you don't like Jesus, and they have to be pushed till they admit they don't really about Jesus but are more in line with the Devil and only care about power.

Maybe it won't be everything, but forcing Trump supporters to outright say they just want to be monsters that just want to endlessly sin they will look worst and worst.
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Zikten
10/02/23 6:06:39 PM
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Necronmon posted...
Anyone who really gives a damn about Christianity has to start making it clear, well, even more clear that if you are Trump supporter you are not any thing close to a Christia
Unfortunately that won't work because the most powerful Christian groups in America are the ones willing to worship Trump

Many Trump Christians see Christians who think Trunp is evil, as false Christians. And they outnumber the sane ones. We have to kick all the televangelists, the mega churches, the Christian groups that control republican politicians, they all have to be kicked out of power to fix this
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Umbreon
10/02/23 6:07:12 PM
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Trump fits the description of the Anti-Christ pretty well.

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DrizztLink
10/02/23 6:07:34 PM
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If they gave a shit about their blatant hypocrisy they wouldn't be in this situation to begin with.

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ScazarMeltex
10/02/23 6:07:53 PM
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If you view Trump as God's chosen one, that should tell you that maybe it's time to find a new religion.

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Guide
10/02/23 6:08:23 PM
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https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706


"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching'turn the other cheek'[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis."

At least some of them are more honest about their bigotry, now? Maybe make more of them go to church.

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RISEofCHRISTIAN
10/02/23 6:08:49 PM
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Oh I thought this topic was about me.

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mercurydude
10/02/23 6:08:51 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/3/3/AAC89BAAE5Kt.jpg

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Guide
10/02/23 6:09:02 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Trump fits the description of the Anti-Christ pretty well.

Doesn't speak enough languages. Barely speaks his own.

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brestugo
10/02/23 6:18:13 PM
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I know the Pope and others have already condemned them

There are probably Catholics in the MAGA tribe, but this seems like more an Evangelical Protestant problem. They're not listening to the Vatican for advice.

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FL81
10/02/23 7:02:56 PM
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I 100% believe that MAGAs would choose Trump over Jesus

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pick4six
10/02/23 7:13:55 PM
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thronedfire2
10/02/23 7:15:31 PM
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if you actually believe in Christianity he's literally the perfect example of the Antichrist

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sabin017
10/02/23 7:16:26 PM
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It's probably the televangelist viewers.

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Solar_Crimson
10/02/23 7:16:49 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Trump fits the description of the Anti-Christ pretty well.
Absolutely. He's the anti-thesis of Christianity and everything Jesus stands for, and yet many "Christians" are in complete lockstep behind him.

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Garabandal
10/02/23 7:17:12 PM
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Trump is demon possessed. You can tell by looking at his eyes.

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rideshort
10/02/23 7:17:44 PM
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The so called chosen one can't even quote anything from the Bible. Shows absolutey no Christian values and continues to shit on anyone. Christians that follow Trump are idiots. Like lambs to a slaughter.

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Questionmarktarius
10/02/23 7:23:52 PM
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required reading:
https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about
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tremain07
10/02/23 8:15:10 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
required reading:
https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about
Wow, Cracked used to get posted on CE all the time back in it's hey days what the fuck happened to that site

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Umbreon
10/02/23 8:23:17 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Wow, Cracked used to get posted on CE all the time back in it's hey days what the fuck happened to that site

Like 90% of their writers got laid off.

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itachi15243
10/02/23 8:24:34 PM
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Necronmon posted...
Anyone who really gives a damn about Christianity has to start making it clear, well, even more clear that if you are Trump supporter you are not any thing close to a Christian

Everytime I do that here I'm met with nothing but "No true Scotsman!" Over and over (not completely wrong)

However at this point I would argue that at the very least, those who worship Trump as an actual part of Christianity and say things like Jesus' word aren't harsh enough, good enough, fit their politics, or whatever, definitely aren't Christian

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Dark_Arbron
10/02/23 8:25:16 PM
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I liked their old content, the funny lists and such. Kinda lost its spark around the mid-2010s.

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Questionmarktarius
10/02/23 8:26:51 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Like 90% of their writers got laid off.
Then the content became 350% "listicles" and nothing else.

well... there's the occasional "discounted crap you don't need, on some shop you never heard of"
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marthsheretoo
10/02/23 8:30:09 PM
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Yeah they basically buzzfeed-ified their site in an attempt to expand outside their niche.

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tremain07
10/02/23 8:32:14 PM
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Yet another example of greed killing a good thing

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littlebro07
10/02/23 8:35:27 PM
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Its bizarre considering Trump is literally the physical embodiment of the Seven Deadly Sins.

I just dont understand why these people are so obsessed with the guy.

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Gritty
10/02/23 8:36:27 PM
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Christians are always the first to be duped by a false Idol
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FortuneCookie
10/02/23 8:37:39 PM
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Bad people are dedicated to bad causes. Look at how many jerkoffs worship Hitler to this day. Trump is the diet version of that. He's bigoted, but not openly genocidal. They can side with him and claim it's about "American values" even though he stands against everything that America is supposed to stand for.

And, yes, there will be people in 50 to 80 years from now toting him as the ideal leader for America; a representation of what was or could have been.
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dameon_reaper
10/02/23 8:41:16 PM
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Guide posted...
Doesn't speak enough languages. Barely speaks his own.

Doesn't need to. He's literally doing what they claimed Obama was.
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EPR-radar
10/02/23 9:15:58 PM
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It is way overdue for Trump worshipping heresy (and, more generally the prosperity gospel) to get the Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God treatment from a charismatic preacher.

Preferably as a nasty surprise at a big evangelical convention.
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DarkBuster22904
10/02/23 9:22:40 PM
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Right wingers don't give a shit about the Bible or Jesus christ.

If they did, they'd realize that the guy who fed the hungry for free, healed the sick for free, hung out with lepers, prostitutes, the mentally ill, and other "unclean" outcasts, said that it was easier for a camel to pass the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven, ordered his disciples to throw away their wealth and follow him, smashed money changer and bank stalls at the temple, and told people to pay their taxes was a *gasp* socialist! And not some Ayn Rand reading, bootstrap pulling, rugged neo-capitalist.

They'd also see that a carpenter born to poverty in a barn in the middle of bumfuck nowhere is about as far from a silver-spoon millionaire born in a Manhattan penthouse as you can get.

Jesus Christ would be absolutely fucking disgusted with republicans and evangelicals.


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EPR-radar
10/02/23 9:27:24 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Jesus Christ would be absolutely fucking disgusted with republicans and evangelicals.
I'm not a believer, but the idea of the second coming ending up being Jesus Christ personally reverse rapturing the very worst of his purported followers directly to Hell is enormously appealing.
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Garabandal
10/02/23 9:30:27 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
I'm not a believer, but the idea of the second coming ending up being Jesus Christ personally reverse rapturing the very worst of his purported followers directly to Hell is enormously appealing.
I am a believer and the idea of Matt Walsh and Nick Fuentes burning in Hell for eternity is extremely appealing. And yes, I know that makes me a bad Christian, but I'm still a better Christian than they are.

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WingsOfGood
10/02/23 9:36:48 PM
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reminder of this old clip

https://twitter.com/DrAaronNew/status/1429971931500003336

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Necronmon
10/02/23 9:38:04 PM
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required reading:
https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about

All of that is true...but then they double down on the one just about making it worst because" He says what we want to hear." Because they don't want to make the tough choices and they lose any mercy I would have had.
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WingsOfGood
10/02/23 9:40:09 PM
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my mom says she isn't for Trump anymore, she is upset with him for vacinations
this is always said after I press her about many things

then later in the conversation Trump is the only person who can do x,y,z and save America
I point out her contradiction and she rages
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St0rmFury
10/02/23 9:41:13 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Does your mom have a split personality?

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Dark_Arbron
10/02/23 9:41:35 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
my mom says she isn't for Trump anymore, she is upset with him for vacinations
this is always said after I press her about many things

then later in the conversation Trump is the only person who can do x,y,z and save America
I point out her contradiction and she rages

Curious, whats worse? A Trump supporter or a former Trump supporter who only turned away because he embraced something good? (Not out of the goodness of his heart, of course)

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WingsOfGood
10/02/23 9:43:25 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Curious, whats worse? A Trump supporter or a former Trump supporter who only turned away because he embraced something good? (Not out of the goodness of his heart, of course)

That is a strange question as my point was Mom would be a Trump supporter still but to answer your question a Trump supporter is definitely worse than someone who was a former Trump supporter.

also wouldn't say she embraced something good she is anti-vaxx that is why she was disappointed with "how he handled it"
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Dark_Arbron
10/02/23 9:45:24 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
That is a strange question as my point was Mom would be a Trump supporter still but to answer your question a Trump supporter is definitely worse than someone who was a former Trump supporter.

You said she became upset with him over vaccinations. I recall he changed his tune to pro-vaccine (so he could claim credit), meaning shes upset with that. So, she turned away from him because he did something good for a change.


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WingsOfGood
10/02/23 9:46:14 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
You said she became upset with him over vaccinations. I recall he changed his tune to pro-vaccine (so he could claim credit), meaning shes upset with that. So, she turned away from him because he did something good for a change.

oh I see, yes you are correct except she didn't actually turn away lol
one consolation at least is my mom doesn't vote so it is just her opinion, I try to get her to see the light but it is tiring
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Dark_Arbron
10/02/23 9:47:10 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
oh I see, yes you are correct except she didn't actually turn away lol
one consolation at least is my mom doesn't vote so it is just her opinion, I try to get her to see the light but it is tiring

Ah, okay.

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ShaneMcComez
10/03/23 6:24:40 AM
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This is why I believe there's no course correcting back to normalcy for the Republican party, even if they suffer massive election defeats again and again. Trumpism is now a part of American Christianity just as American Christianity and the religious right has been part of the Republican party for the past several decades. They're married to this insanity til death do them apart.

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bfslick50
10/03/23 6:50:36 AM
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After a certain point well have to stop calling them Christians if they view Trump and not Jesus as the messiah.

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