Current Events > The Supreme Court student loan forgiveness decision is tomorrow

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Block_that_Kick posted...

Cancer research funding is unfair to people like me who dont have cancer.

That's not even close to the same.

Patty_Fleur posted...

Oh no. People have to pay back the loan they agreed to borrow. I'm so sad.

...do you want help or not?

Patty_Fleur posted...

That's not even close to the same.

Youre pissed because taxpayer money is being spent on something that doesnt personally benefit you. It is the same.

Block_that_Kick posted...

Cancer research funding is unfair to people like me who dont have cancer.

Most people don't choose to get cancer. I don't think that's the best analogy.

DrizztLink posted...

...do you want help or not?

Uh....You borrow the money and pay it back? The loan is the help.

DrizztLink posted...

...do you want help or not?

Hes not American so he wouldnt get it either way.

Rasmoh posted...

Joey B throwing out that new carrot quick-like.

Republicans bringing out the classics real quick.

I feel so sorry for you guys still in student debt - wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, and thought i won life when i got out.

Starks posted...

So you have no answer.

I gave you the answer. Multiple people did. You just want to ignore reality.

No surprise. In what kind of developed nation is education treated as a partisan issue? Fucking pathetic.

NatsuSama posted...

Republicans bringing out the classics real quick.

I'm not a Republican.

Student Loan Forgiveness would be nice for people, but it's an obvious carrot-on-a-stick at this point. Efforts would be much better focused on things like improving wages and decreasing living costs, but those are gradual and small changes that could actually be attained so we can't have that. Gotta dangle that sexy five-figure loan forgiveness carrot that is easily handwaved away at the last second because that's what the hyper-rich want people to focus on.

Rasmoh posted...

I'm not a Republican

User tag says otherwise

Starks posted...

Most people don't choose to get cancer. I don't think that's the best analogy.

you know the message every single kid in the 90s and 00s got was that if they didn't go to college they'd end up flipping burgers for the rest of their lives right? I went to regular old public school and going to college was the focus of the entire senior year. it was not seen as an option.

thronedfire2 posted...

you know the message every single kid in the 90s and 00s got was that if they didn't go to college they'd end up flipping burgers for the rest of their lives right? I went to regular old public school and going to college was the focus of the entire senior year. it was not seen as an option.

And I guarantee those kids aren't properly educated on them either. They're probably given just the initial loan amount and maybe the interest rate by the person pushing it.

Ironically the people that have student loans that aren't paying on them are getting doubly fucked by the politicians who promise student loan forgiveness and know they can't deliver it because the interest is just growing and growing for them while these assholes with tens of millions of dollars in the bank are horsing around and making promises they can't keep

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AssultTank... I think I remember you from the Battlefront 2 boards. From like 15 years ago lmao

I guess repubs want us to vote in democratic super-majorities in congress to actually get us out of the 1950s. Cool with me.

Rasmoh posted...

I'm not a Republican.

Student Loan Forgiveness would be nice for people, but it's an obvious carrot-on-a-stick at this point. Efforts would be much better focused on things like improving wages and decreasing living costs, but those are gradual and small changes that could actually be attained so we can't have that. Gotta dangle that sexy five-figure loan forgiveness carrot that is easily handwaved away at the last second because that's what the hyper-rich want people to focus on.

Let's pretend I actually believe your first sentence.

The idea that it's a "carrot on a stick" is a lovely talking point from Rose Twitter and Republicans. Rose Twitter doesnt understand how government actually works so they classically argue "both sides" in a roundabout way anytime a campaign promise fails, but seem to lack understanding it failed do to mostly Republicans. Republicans argue the same talking with the aim to convince voters Dems never wanted to pass a campaign promise that oh btw Republicans legally obstructed in the first place.

What the President can do is limited without Congress. So the only takeaway for anyone truly disappointed about the SCs verdict is they need to get out and vote, and grasp WHY the campaign promise actually failed. Also understand regardless of whatever your candidate promises, you need to understand they can't meet those promises if they don't have the numbers in Congress. So if they don't have the numbers this Congress, rally for more and vote out the ones against what you want.

So the "dangling carrot" angle isn't accurate.

Many of the people complaining the debt wasn't forgiven are the same people who stayed home 2014, 2016, and some even 2018. On the, "whats the point of voting...both sides the same" logic. Yet they want a gold star for participating in the last 1 to 3 elections confused why the people they just started voting for can't pass anything. Same to many of the non voters of 2016 with a shocked pikachu face Roe v Wade was gutted.

Supposedly Biden will go through the higher education act. Its slower, but will likely be how he does it.

Biden should make public service loan forgiveness 5 years

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I was filling the board up with fanfiction just like everybody else hahaha we had to create our own message board because moderators marked it all as off topic.

Patty_Fleur posted...

That's not even close to the same.

Yeah, the better analogy is being opposed to cancer research because it's not fair to people who already had cancer

yemmy posted...

Ironically the people that have student loans that aren't paying on them are getting doubly fucked by the politicians who promise student loan forgiveness and know they can't deliver it because the interest is just growing and growing for them while these assholes with tens of millions of dollars in the bank are horsing around and making promises they can't keep

The false hope is harmful. These are people in the worst position to dick around with their loans outside of legal methods.

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Certainly, but the fact of the matter is that broad student loan forgiveness simply isn't going to happen within the framework of our government. Too many roadblocks and people in power who don't want it to happen. It is far more feasible to put all efforts into improving lives for everyone via things like reducing cost of living and increasing wages and doing so would actually have measurable results.

Block_that_Kick posted...

Cancer research funding is unfair to people like me who dont have cancer.

Nobody chooses to have cancer. You can choose not to take out student loans, and the informationis presented to you before you agree to it.

Hope this helps.

pretzelcoatl posted...

Nobody chooses to have cancer. You can choose not to take out student loans, and the informationis presented to you before you agree to it.

Hope this helps.

after being told over and over and over again from our parents that if we dont go to college we will be losers, and that its easy to find a well paying job with just a college degree.

we followed the advice of our parents and other authority figures.

Why is there a system to entrap adolescents into debt who don't know shit about money management yet?

pretzelcoatl posted...

Nobody chooses to have cancer. You can choose not to take out student loans, and the informationis presented to you before you agree to it.

"You can choose to be poor."

mystic_belmont posted...

after being told over and over and over again from our parents that if we dont go to college we will be losers, and that its easy to find a well paying job with just a college degree.

we followed the advice of our parents and other authority figures.

That's really your fault for being an impressionable teenager *shrug*

/s

I mathed out the rest of my private loan. Fuck it, I should just pay it off over the weekend. Probably can't avoid a final interest hit tomorrow but it's pennies.

Really comes down to whether I want to complain about an extra $300 in interest over the final 5 payments.

On paper, I shouldn't pay it off early. But again, fuck it. Yes, I can make a better return than my 3.15% interest. I could just let that payment money grow at a theoretical 4.75% or more instead.

And yes, this is privilege.

GATTJT posted...

That's really your fault for being an impressionable teenager *shrug*

/s

Not everybody has the balls to tell their narcissist parent to keep their shit advice to themselves.

I see your tag, but it is a thing, dude.

Starks posted...

Most people don't choose to get cancer. I don't think that's the best analogy.

Most people don't choose poverty either.

All these knobheads that hate educated folks, when those educated folks are behind many of the careers that give them their entertainment, guide their health, protect their rights, etc.

Had I known what I know now, I would have gone to a state school and been kinder to myself and my parents.

How loans function and the payback schedule should've been drilled into my skull. Even the idea of "you have to pay it back" was mysterious until I had a job and suddenly I had to. And even then, nobody explained to me why I had different issuers and interest rates, how to deal with them, or how much more I had taken on during grad school.

I just nodded my head the whole time.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Most people don't choose poverty either.

True.

Once again, the Supreme Court comes through with the correct and fair decision.

pretzelcoatl posted...

You can choose not to take out student loans, and the information is presented to you before you agree to it.

No it isnt, thats the problem. They are deceptive on purpose.

Have_A_Cigar posted...

Once again, the Supreme Court comes through with the correct and fair decision.

If youre going to embarrass yourself simping for fascists you should probably take the Pink Floyd lyrics out of your sig.

Really bad timing on top of everything else.

Inflation in the USA is so high at this point that I recently recieved a predeclined credit card in the mail.

Have_A_Cigar posted...

Once again, the Supreme Court comes through with the correct and fair decision.

Again? Only correct one in awhile has been the one about drawing district maps.

Have_A_Cigar posted...

Once again, the Supreme Court comes through with the correct and fair decision.

What are the other correct and fair decisions that they've made lately?

Have_A_Cigar posted...

Once again, the Supreme Court comes through with the correct and fair decision.

....every word of that sentence is wrong. I'm not sure how you did it, but you pulled off something rare v bravo

GATTJT posted...

That's really your fault for being an impressionable teenager *shrug*

/s

but still responsible enough to borrow tens of thousands!