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HornedLion
07/15/22 6:55:30 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/4/AAckHXAADdGY.jpg
Epic Store Epic Summer Sale! Or ESESS as the community lovingly calls it.

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Revelation34
07/15/22 7:06:38 AM
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PC gamers wait for the Steam sale instead.

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adjl
07/15/22 9:52:31 AM
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Unless their free game schedule is ramping up, I don't particularly have reason to care any more than my usual approach of checking the store every thursday afternoon.

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Judgmenl
07/15/22 9:54:31 AM
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I don't even buy video games anymore.

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papercup
07/15/22 9:59:41 AM
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Ah, yes, giving Epic money. Now you too can fund CCP organ harvesting operations!

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adjl
07/15/22 10:00:29 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
I don't even buy video games anymore.

Also this, honestly. Not quite that extreme, but my backlog is so huge that I generally only buy stuff that I either really, really want (in which case I'll usually wait for a small sale) or is so exceptionally discounted that I probably won't be able to get it that cheap again (mostly $6 Humble Monthlies that have 2+ games I really want). I didn't buy anything in Steam or GOG's summer sales. Epic selling mostly the same games at mostly the same prices isn't going to change that trend.

I will, however, be buying Xenoblade 3 on the 29th.

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darkknight109
07/15/22 10:10:17 AM
#7:


Revelation34 posted...
PC gamers wait for the Steam sale instead.
And *real* PC gamers already hit up the GOG.com summer sale instead.

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Nichtcrawler-X
07/15/22 10:40:02 AM
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Hardly anyone cares that much about Epic. Try again.

Looking at Wikipedia, the only relevant titles I am seeing are Jazz Jackrabbit, Unreal Tournament and Shadow Complex. (None of them really recent)

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Metalsonic66
07/15/22 12:31:31 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
PC gamers wait for the Steam sale instead.
It ended like a week ago

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Revelation34
07/15/22 3:13:11 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...

It ended like a week ago


Yep. Nobody cares about the Epic sale.

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Dikitain
07/15/22 3:56:04 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Hardly anyone cares that much about Epic. Try again.

Looking at Wikipedia, the only relevant titles I am seeing are Jazz Jackrabbit, Unreal Tournament and Shadow Complex. (None of them really recent)

Fortnite is Epic.

It is arguably the only reason they had enough money to try and compete with Steam

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Krazy_Kirby
07/15/22 4:22:00 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
PC gamers wait for the Steam sale instead.


maybe people buy on more than 1 platform.

competing platforms are a good thiing

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BlackScythe0
07/15/22 5:07:58 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
PC gamers wait for the Steam sale instead.

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Dikitain
07/15/22 5:44:18 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
maybe people buy on more than 1 platform.

competing platforms are a good thiing

They do, GoG, Humble Bundle, Green Man Gaming, etc.

Just not Epic.

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agesboy
07/15/22 8:46:07 PM
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adjl posted...
Unless their free game schedule is ramping up, I don't particularly have reason to care any more than my usual approach of checking the store every thursday afternoon.
do play the geneforge 1 remake that they had free a lil while ago, it is probably the third most formative game of my childhood (#2 is tales of symphonia and #1 is golden sun)

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Nichtcrawler-X
07/15/22 8:59:08 PM
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agesboy posted...
do play the geneforge 1 remake that they had free a lil while ago, it is probably the third most formative game of my childhood (#2 is tales of symphonia and #1 is golden sun)

Where do the Oracles rank?

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agesboy
07/15/22 9:01:10 PM
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oracle of ages is why i'm agesboy, and is in the 4-6 position

seasons is somewhere in the 11-20's, because it took me for fucking ever to get a legit copy

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Revelation34
07/16/22 2:17:37 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...


maybe people buy on more than 1 platform.

competing platforms are a good thiing


Epic is good for nobody because of exclusives.

agesboy posted...

do play the geneforge 1 remake that they had free a lil while ago, it is probably the third most formative game of my childhood (#2 is tales of symphonia and #1 is golden sun)


FF6 for me. I should try replaying Golden Suns again. I wish I had more free time.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/16/22 2:19:12 AM
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Revelation34 posted...


Epic is good for nobody because of exclusives.


it's okay for steam, but not epic.....

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Revelation34
07/16/22 2:23:29 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...


it's okay for steam, but not epic.....


Steam has no exclusives.

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adjl
07/16/22 6:21:27 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
competing platforms are a good thiing

If they actually compete to provide better services/prices, sure. If they "compete" by throwing around money to buy temporary exclusivity while offering an objectively inferior experience in every other regard, less so. Buying exclusives doesn't make your platform better, it makes other platforms worse, and that's bad for everyone.

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Zareth
07/16/22 7:57:04 PM
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TRUE gamers shop on the Wii Shopping Channel every Wednesday

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DragonClaw01
07/16/22 8:11:45 PM
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Zareth posted...
TRUE gamers shop on the Wii Shopping Channel every Wednesday
Well, there always is Epic Free Games Wednesday. It is kind of like Wii Shopping Wednesday, but not as alliterative, but much cheaper.

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HornedLion
07/16/22 9:28:53 PM
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This thread has been a success in ways I couldnt even have hoped for.

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EvilResident
07/16/22 11:43:00 PM
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HornedLion posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/4/AAckHXAADdGY.jpg
Epic Store Epic Summer Sale! Or ESESS as the community lovingly calls it.
Any free shit theyre giving away?

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Revelation34
07/17/22 2:25:08 AM
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EvilResident posted...

Any free shit theyre giving away?


Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap right now.

Still going to aim to get it on Steam.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/17/22 5:59:52 AM
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adjl posted...


If they actually compete to provide better services/prices, sure. If they "compete" by throwing around money to buy temporary exclusivity while offering an objectively inferior experience in every other regard, less so. Buying exclusives doesn't make your platform better, it makes other platforms worse, and that's bad for everyone.


exclusives make companies try to compete

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Dikitain
07/17/22 6:03:39 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
exclusives make companies try to compete
Not really, it just perpetuates fanboyism at best ("My exclusives are better then yours!"), and piracy as worst.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/17/22 6:09:38 AM
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Dikitain posted...

Not really, it just perpetuates fanboyism at best ("My exclusives are better then yours!"), and piracy as worst.


right, because people never buy consoles just for exclusives....
fanboys are the ones who whine they can't buy something on.the platform they want

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Dikitain
07/17/22 6:16:27 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
right, because people never buy consoles just for exclusives....
fanboys are the ones who whine they can't buy something on.the platform they want

They don't anymore. Exclusives are a relic of the 16-bit era. Nowadays people stick to the platform they want and if they can't get a game, it is the game companies loss, not theirs. It is why even Playstation games are showing up on PC.

And if they REALLY want it, emulation and piracy.

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adjl
07/17/22 11:17:23 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
exclusives make companies try to compete

Making exclusives is a beneficial form of competition. In that regard, companies invest in studios to produce games that are better than their competitors, ultimately providing a better product. In many cases, that's in the form of first- and second-party studios, but you get the occasional example like Nintendo funding Bayonetta 2 as an exclusive because it otherwise wouldn't get to exist. If a game wouldn't be made unless it's exclusive to help recover the investment put into it, that's perfectly fine because that results in better products for customers for the sake of being more competitive.

The problem arises when the game would be made either way, and exclusivity is just a (usually temporary) deal made with a platform holder in exchange for a bit of extra money. That's not a beneficial form of competition, because rather than making better products or offering a better service, that just acts to make competitors' services worse. There are no new games produced this way, the games themselves are not improved for it, you end up with fewer people able to play the games (depending on just what hoops they have to jump through to do so)... everything about that arrangement is ultimately worse for consumers.

I'd love to see some meaningful competition for Steam. Their de facto monopoly on the PC gaming market is really not a great situation, given how complacent they've become in their success and how little incentive they have to improve their service. I even like a lot of the things Epic is doing to try to become that competition, like taking a smaller cut of the purchase price and waiving the UE license fee, since those are really beneficial for smaller studios (which is the only time savings like that actually get passed on to the people doing the real work of making the games). But the fact of the matter is that their storefront and service is objectively inferior to Steam's in every way (it took them a year to add a shopping cart, of all things) and the only thing they have going for them is throwing around all their Fortnite money to buy temporary exclusivity deals (which make Steam et al worse, rather than making Epic better) and hand out free stuff (which is ultimately bad for the industry because it discourages people from impulse buying games under the pretense that they might end up being given away later). That's not beneficial competition.

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xcrimx
07/17/22 11:56:43 AM
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Love me some denuvo
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Revelation34
07/17/22 3:19:11 PM
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xcrimx posted...
Love me some denuvo


Lol.

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Nichtcrawler-X
07/17/22 3:40:58 PM
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Also, as a more serious answer, pretty syre the only events I really look out for every year are E3 and both GDQs. Although neither are exclusively about PC gaming.

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Metalsonic66
07/17/22 3:52:07 PM
#35:


adjl posted...
I'd love to see some meaningful competition for Steam. Their de facto monopoly on the PC gaming market is really not a great situation, given how complacent they've become in their success and how little incentive they have to improve their service.
I just want Valve to make games again dammit

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HornedLion
07/17/22 7:08:28 PM
#36:


Revelation34 posted...
Still going to aim to get it on Steam.

Thats what I say but about the Epic store.


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sabin017
07/17/22 7:17:41 PM
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IDK why people would rather support Cliffy over Gabe.

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Dikitain
07/17/22 7:19:50 PM
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sabin017 posted...
IDK why people would rather support Cliffy over Gabe.

Cliff Bleszinski doesn't work at Epic.

You are thinking of Tim Sweeney.

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Metalsonic66
07/17/22 7:38:37 PM
#39:


Cliffy B used to be such a big deal lol

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Zareth
07/17/22 10:25:15 PM
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Cliffy's a washed up nobody who regularly gets dunked on by randos on Twitter

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Metalsonic66
07/17/22 10:31:37 PM
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I completely forgot he existed until he made that cameo in the Buu Saga video

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Revelation34
07/17/22 10:42:39 PM
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Tim is bad.

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adjl
07/18/22 1:19:21 PM
#43:


Revelation34 posted...
Tim is bad.

https://i.redd.it/tj7i3tuywu891.png

... Since when does Steam not have voice chat? Pretty much everyone uses Discord instead now, but the feature has been there for at least a decade.

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Dikitain
07/18/22 1:56:14 PM
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adjl posted...
... Since when does Steam not have voice chat? Pretty much everyone uses Discord instead now, but the feature has been there for at least a decade.
IDK, maybe I was hallucinating when I used Steam's voice chat with my friend while playing Outward.

As for his other points, "we have features that allow you to interact with better platforms"?

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adjl
07/18/22 3:15:25 PM
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Pretty much. Cross-platform integration is generally a good thing, but if the only selling point for your client is that you don't need to convince your friends to use it to access basic features, you don't have a very compelling client.

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Revelation34
07/19/22 2:32:21 AM
#46:


adjl posted...


... Since when does Steam not have voice chat? Pretty much everyone uses Discord instead now, but the feature has been there for at least a decade.


I think he meant cross server voice chat.

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adjl
07/19/22 8:28:05 AM
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I could believe that. The wording's a bit ambiguous. Of course, that doesn't mean much when Discord exists and is just generally a better solution than any built-in voice chat these clients have.

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Metalsonic66
07/19/22 5:32:33 PM
#48:


Revelation34 posted...
I think he meant cross server voice chat.
I can voice chat on Steam with a friend in one game while I'm playing a different game

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Revelation34
07/19/22 9:00:56 PM
#49:


Metalsonic66 posted...

I can voice chat on Steam with a friend in one game while I'm playing a different game


I wouldn't know. The point is that Tim himself is bad. Tim Sweeney and Randy Pitchford are both scumbags.

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adjl
07/19/22 10:48:24 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
I can voice chat on Steam with a friend in one game while I'm playing a different game

Indeed. The only time that might come up is trying to chat with somebody who doesn't have a Steam account, but really, how often do you run into somebody that's interested enough in PC gaming to need a voice chat feature to improve it, but has neither a Steam account nor Discord?

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