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MoogleKupo141 07/14/22 8:49:59 PM #251:	a bunch of sources have come out and said the SDCC/D23 stuff is fake so dont get too attached to any of that --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:966580622] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>a bunch of sources have come out and said the SDCC/D23 stuff is fake so dont get too attached to any of that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/14/22 8:52:43 PM #252:	Hey, it's fun to gossip! --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:966580661] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Hey, it's fun to gossip! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 07/14/22 8:53:20 PM #253:	Yeah let it sit for a minute and then realized there's a ton of already-announced stuff they would be talking about before announcing even more new stuff. Not to mention I'd really want Planet Hulk before World War Hulk, and pre-announcing post-credit teasers, yeah... <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:966580672] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Yeah let it sit for a minute and then realized there's a ton of already-announced stuff they would be talking about before announcing even more new stuff. Not to mention I'd really want Planet Hulk before World War Hulk, and pre-announcing post-credit teasers, yeah... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/14/22 8:57:59 PM #254:	based on some other stuff Ive seen, I think some version of that World War Hulk bit is true i dont totally know how theyll justify it though, or how similar to its namesake it will actually be. Theoretically ~~Skarr would have been born during Hulks stay on the planet from Ragnarok, I guess. Maybe Skarr will be filling the Hulk role and Hulk will be the protagonist?~~ It doesnt really make sense for Bruce to be mad at Earth people. --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:966580763] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>based on some other stuff Ive seen, I think some version of that World War Hulk bit is true i dont totally know how theyll justify it though, or how similar to its namesake it will actually be. Theoretically Skarr would have been born during Hulks stay on the planet from Ragnarok, I guess. Maybe Skarr will be filling the Hulk role and Hulk will be the protagonist? It doesnt really make sense for Bruce to be mad at Earth people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 07/14/22 9:05:21 PM #255:	What's in the spoiler tag is possible, maybe. The heart of WWH is the PH beforehand really so otherwise it's just taking the name and lampshading a totally different story onto it e.g. Hulk persona goes crazy due to villain mind control or lab experiment gone wrong or something. So it's less WWH and more "Hulk rampage and various heroes try to stop him", but then that doesn't work for a tv show either since you need the heavy hitter/big name actors or special effects budget for that... would really probably work better as a movie if that was the case? Just can't see the actual elements of that storyline coming into play unless they're going to start doing non-616 movies in anticipation of possible ~~Secret Wars~~ <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:966580921] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>What's in the spoiler tag is possible, maybe. The heart of WWH is the PH beforehand really so otherwise it's just taking the name and lampshading a totally different story onto it e.g. Hulk persona goes crazy due to villain mind control or lab experiment gone wrong or something. So it's less WWH and more "Hulk rampage and various heroes try to stop him", but then that doesn't work for a tv show either since you need the heavy hitter/big name actors or special effects budget for that... would really probably work better as a movie if that was the case? Just can't see the actual elements of that storyline coming into play unless they're going to start doing non-616 movies in anticipation of possible Secret Wars </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/14/22 9:09:21 PM #256:	MartinFF7 posted... it's just taking the name and lampshading a totally different story onto it That's pretty much Civil War in a nutshell. And absolutely Infinity War. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:966581001] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>MartinFF7 posted... </cite> <quote>it's just taking the name and lampshading a totally different story onto it</quote>That's pretty much Civil War in a nutshell. And absolutely Infinity War. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 07/14/22 9:11:54 PM #257:	Tbh if we get a movie called World War Hulk it will be World World Hulk in name only. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:966581053] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Tbh if we get a movie called World War Hulk it will be World World Hulk in name only. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 07/14/22 9:14:12 PM #258:	scarletspeed7 posted... That's pretty much Civil War in a nutshell. And absolutely Infinity War. well the "heart" of Civil War re: Superhuman Registration Act was there, and Infinity War is more like Thanos Quest, but yeah.... Age of Ultron too for name <> material, fair enough. I guess the animated Planet Hulk movie is as close as I'll get to true World War Hulk... <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:966581093] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>scarletspeed7 posted... </cite> <quote>That's pretty much Civil War in a nutshell. And absolutely Infinity War.</quote> well the "heart" of Civil War re: Superhuman Registration Act was there, and Infinity War is more like Thanos Quest, but yeah.... Age of Ultron too for name <> material, fair enough. I guess the animated Planet Hulk movie is as close as I'll get to true World War Hulk... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/14/22 9:15:34 PM #259:	they kind of blew their chance to do MCU Planet Hulk at this point, since most of his friends were in Ragnarok and it would be weird to send him into space again anyway... definitely would have to be an incredibly loose WWH adaptation at this point --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:966581120] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>they kind of blew their chance to do MCU Planet Hulk at this point, since most of his friends were in Ragnarok and it would be weird to send him into space again anyway... definitely would have to be an incredibly loose WWH adaptation at this point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 07/14/22 9:28:34 PM #260:	Hey speaking of blown chances: I understand this flows naturally from stuff being setup post-blip and they probably want to not revisit that 5 year gap of time where nothing happens in-universe, but not doing the Thunderbolts as a tv show (instead of movie) set somewhere inside that 5-year time period seems like a missed opportunity to me. I mean the rationale for their existence is right there, just like following the Onslaught saga... Just imagine all the promotional material making it seem like another straight superhero tv show, a bunch of new no-name heroes coming together to help the world during a dark time, yada yada, and then you get the big twist at the end of episode 1. I remember when Invincible was setting the internet on fire with its ep 1 twist buzz! Ah well. <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:966581331] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Hey speaking of blown chances: I understand this flows naturally from stuff being setup post-blip and they probably want to not revisit that 5 year gap of time where nothing happens in-universe, but not doing the Thunderbolts as a tv show (instead of movie) set somewhere inside that 5-year time period seems like a missed opportunity to me. I mean the rationale for their existence is right there, just like following the Onslaught saga... Just imagine all the promotional material making it seem like another straight superhero tv show, a bunch of new no-name heroes coming together to help the world during a dark time, yada yada, and then you get the big twist at the end of episode 1. I remember when Invincible was setting the internet on fire with its ep 1 twist buzz! Ah well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 07/14/22 9:32:38 PM #261:	I've been ranting about the missed opportunities of not having Thunderbolts yet endlessly. Hell, not having it now when there apparently isn't really an Avengers team that exists at the moment seems like a missed opportunity too. If you're not going to give us Thunderbolts, at least give us Dark Avengers now with insane MCU Willem DeFoe as Iron Patriot in these non-Avengers times! --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:966581408] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>I've been ranting about the missed opportunities of not having Thunderbolts yet endlessly. Hell, not having it now when there apparently isn't really an Avengers team that exists at the moment seems like a missed opportunity too. If you're not going to give us Thunderbolts, at least give us Dark Avengers now with insane MCU Willem DeFoe as Iron Patriot in these non-Avengers times! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 07/14/22 10:08:15 PM #262:	Thunderbolts got monkey's pawed it's been given to the Black Widow writer --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:966582061] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Thunderbolts got monkey's pawed it's been given to the Black Widow writer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 07/14/22 10:15:15 PM #263:	.............. Well, ah..... at least Yelena was the best part of Black Widow so the writer did well with her character, right... Edit: just imdb'ed and it's being directed by someone who's directed nothing of note and seems to be primarily a music video director? the hell? <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:966582195] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>.............. Well, ah..... at least Yelena was the best part of Black Widow so the writer did well with her character, right... Edit: just imdb'ed and it's being directed by someone who's directed nothing of note and seems to be primarily a music video director? the hell? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/14/22 10:52:18 PM #264:	Hey maybe that means we'll get another Smells Like Teen Spirit cover --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:966582899] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Hey maybe that means we'll get another Smells Like Teen Spirit cover </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 07/14/22 11:03:41 PM #265:	Leonhart4 posted... Hey maybe that means we'll get another Smells Like Teen Spirit cover Has the number of these covers equaled/exceeded the # of FFIV ports/remakes yet? --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:966583083] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite> <quote>Hey maybe that means we'll get another Smells Like Teen Spirit cover</quote> Has the number of these covers equaled/exceeded the # of FFIV ports/remakes yet? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 07/14/22 11:20:58 PM #267:	The weirdest thing about giving it to the Black Widow writer is just that people only had negative things to say about the Black Widow movie's writing. Not even neutral or positive things. Just mostly meh to bad. And team movies are the big money maker. Why not give it to someone who has a lot of promise to make such a thing? It's why I can't get too excited for Thunderbolts when I've wanted it for forever. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:966583344] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>The weirdest thing about giving it to the Black Widow writer is just that people only had negative things to say about the Black Widow movie's writing. Not even neutral or positive things. Just mostly meh to bad. And team movies are the big money maker. Why not give it to someone who has a lot of promise to make such a thing? It's why I can't get too excited for Thunderbolts when I've wanted it for forever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 07/15/22 5:31:46 PM #268:	Oh, I watched the Ms. Marvel finale. From a writing standpoint, this finale was a completely messy. Some of this stuff was completely contrived and absurd. After not having seen the Damage Control folks for two full episodes they come back and are just all about kidnapping this kid and I really don't get the logic in that DC leader going all out to kidnap the Kamran defying orders. Like for what reason. And then that girl Zoe who I only remember because we see the bare minimum from her through the whole show but they pretend like she's been super involved and is part of the gang. But she's there on a Saturday inexplicably to film TikToks at night? Come on. She was in this episode alone more than she was in the entirety of the rest of the episodes combined. And Kamala's brother just appearing there to chaperone was also really lazy too. ~~And the whole speech where Kamala's father had to stretch super duper hard to get him to be able to call her Ms. Marvel was awful too.~~ There was probably more but this finale was sloppy AF, while at the same time being more entertaining and visually awesome? I don't know, this show stands out as really terrible writing. It was jarring because while a lot of times the writing in Marvel stuff isn't tremendous, this is the first time it actually felt awful and amateurish to me, like there was no quality control done on it. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:966600798] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Oh, I watched the Ms. Marvel finale. From a writing standpoint, this finale was a completely messy. Some of this stuff was completely contrived and absurd. After not having seen the Damage Control folks for two full episodes they come back and are just all about kidnapping this kid and I really don't get the logic in that DC leader going all out to kidnap the Kamran defying orders. Like for what reason. And then that girl Zoe who I only remember because we see the bare minimum from her through the whole show but they pretend like she's been super involved and is part of the gang. But she's there on a Saturday inexplicably to film TikToks at night? Come on. She was in this episode alone more than she was in the entirety of the rest of the episodes combined. And Kamala's brother just appearing there to chaperone was also really lazy too. And the whole speech where Kamala's father had to stretch super duper hard to get him to be able to call her Ms. Marvel was awful too. There was probably more but this finale was sloppy AF, while at the same time being more entertaining and visually awesome? I don't know, this show stands out as really terrible writing. It was jarring because while a lot of times the writing in Marvel stuff isn't tremendous, this is the first time it actually felt awful and amateurish to me, like there was no quality control done on it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 07/15/22 6:25:24 PM #269:	Thor Love and Thunder was above average/good on my MCU scale. I probably would've enjoyed it more if I had any love for GNR, but these days I just think they're too cheesy. The ~~black and white fight scene~~ was possibly top five fight/scene and I enjoyed how the film handled Jane's ~~cancer. I also really liked how Eternity looked. Christian Bale was also really good.~~ Overall the movie is light and breezy, but the jokes don't land as consistently as I would've liked. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:966602013] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Thor Love and Thunder was above average/good on my MCU scale. I probably would've enjoyed it more if I had any love for GNR, but these days I just think they're too cheesy. The black and white fight scene was possibly top five fight/scene and I enjoyed how the film handled Jane's cancer. I also really liked how Eternity looked. Christian Bale was also really good. Overall the movie is light and breezy, but the jokes don't land as consistently as I would've liked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/15/22 6:28:29 PM #270:	colliding posted... Overall the movie is light and breezy, but the jokes don't land as consistently as I would've liked. I think the issue here is that the jokes hit so well in Ragnarok because we weren't expecting it, given the previous Thor movies. Now we are, so doing the same style isn't as effective. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966602087] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite> <quote>Overall the movie is light and breezy, but the jokes don't land as consistently as I would've liked.</quote> I think the issue here is that the jokes hit so well in Ragnarok because we weren't expecting it, given the previous Thor movies. Now we are, so doing the same style isn't as effective. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 07/15/22 6:32:28 PM #271:	StealThisSheen posted... I think the issue here is that the jokes hit so well in Ragnarok because we weren't expecting it, given the previous Thor movies. Now we are, so doing the same style isn't as effective. I'd attribute it more to the lack of Goldblum, Ruffalo, and Hiddlestone and not having those characters. Here Korg has to do most of the heavy comedy lifting. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:966602190] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>I think the issue here is that the jokes hit so well in Ragnarok because we weren't expecting it, given the previous Thor movies. Now we are, so doing the same style isn't as effective.</quote> I'd attribute it more to the lack of Goldblum, Ruffalo, and Hiddlestone and not having those characters. Here Korg has to do most of the heavy comedy lifting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/15/22 6:35:31 PM #272:	colliding posted... I'd attribute it more to the lack of Goldblum, Ruffalo, and Hiddlestone and not having those characters. Here Korg has to do most of the heavy comedy lifting. That's fair, too, yeah. It's lacking some of the more comedic characters. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966602261] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite> <quote>I'd attribute it more to the lack of Goldblum, Ruffalo, and Hiddlestone and not having those characters. Here Korg has to do most of the heavy comedy lifting.</quote> That's fair, too, yeah. It's lacking some of the more comedic characters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/15/22 6:44:01 PM #273:	Yeah, I don't think of Jane or Valkyrie (well, she's more deadpan) as inherently funny characters, so they don't play off of Thor's style of humor as well. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:966602444] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I don't think of Jane or Valkyrie (well, she's more deadpan) as inherently funny characters, so they don't play off of Thor's style of humor as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/16/22 6:23:33 AM #274:	ok I just watched Shang-Chi and thought it was really good but i must air this grievance ~~why did Wong invite Awkwafina through the portal at the end and talk as if she somehow was important? She should just be a rando to him... shes not magic~~ ~~also it was just a little absurd for her to be a really good archer in a day but whatever~~ --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:966612695] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>ok I just watched Shang-Chi and thought it was really good but i must air this grievance why did Wong invite Awkwafina through the portal at the end and talk as if she somehow was important? She should just be a rando to him... shes not magic also it was just a little absurd for her to be a really good archer in a day but whatever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 07/16/22 10:33:58 AM #275:	yeah I shared those grievances however I also think that movie is pretty terrible for many other reasons I don't feel like rehashing right now. maybe later --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:966615395] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>yeah I shared those grievances however I also think that movie is pretty terrible for many other reasons I don't feel like rehashing right now. maybe later </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 07/16/22 6:34:00 PM #277:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgaYSk28IM this nails almost all of my complaints about Thor 4 directly --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:966624505] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgaYSk28IM this nails almost all of my complaints about Thor 4 directly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/16/22 7:18:05 PM #278:	MoogleKupo141 posted... ok I just watched Shang-Chi and thought it was really good but i must air this grievance ~~why did Wong invite Awkwafina through the portal at the end and talk as if she somehow was important? She should just be a rando to him... shes not magic~~ ~~also it was just a little absurd for her to be a really good archer in a day but whatever~~ I think there's a bit of "She's important to him" and comic book/comic book movie logic dictates that's important for the main character. Wong's one of the more "all knowing" characters, so maybe he knows Shang doesn't come without her or something. ~~The second bit is weird, yeah. I think it's supposed to suggest there's a latent power hidden inside of her, but it doesn't go into it, so who knows.~~ --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966625296] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>ok I just watched Shang-Chi and thought it was really good but i must air this grievance why did Wong invite Awkwafina through the portal at the end and talk as if she somehow was important? She should just be a rando to him... shes not magic also it was just a little absurd for her to be a really good archer in a day but whatever </quote> I think there's a bit of "She's important to him" and comic book/comic book movie logic dictates that's important for the main character. Wong's one of the more "all knowing" characters, so maybe he knows Shang doesn't come without her or something. The second bit is weird, yeah. I think it's supposed to suggest there's a latent power hidden inside of her, but it doesn't go into it, so who knows. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 07/16/22 7:43:07 PM #279:	for the first thing I didn't really take it that Wong specifically needed her or anything, but I mean she was in Ta Lo, she is aware of the movie's events so it's not like they need to keep her in the dark, they're together at dinner so just ask them to come second thing.... ~~yeah when it happened I just immediately thought it was silly but whatever cliche to get the supporting cast to accomplish something~~ --- https://imgtc.ws/i/1LkkaGU.jpg somethin somethin hung somethin horse somethin <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:966625785] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>for the first thing I didn't really take it that Wong specifically needed her or anything, but I mean she was in Ta Lo, she is aware of the movie's events so it's not like they need to keep her in the dark, they're together at dinner so just ask them to come second thing.... yeah when it happened I just immediately thought it was silly but whatever cliche to get the supporting cast to accomplish something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/16/22 7:45:08 PM #280:	CelesMyUserName posted... for the first thing I didn't really take it that Wong specifically needed her or anything, but I mean she was in Ta Lo, she is aware of the movie's events so it's not like they need to keep her in the dark, they're together at dinner so just ask them to come ~~This is probably part of it, too. Like, you have two people aware of what took place, why not just bring both?~~ --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966625824] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>CelesMyUserName posted... </cite> <quote>for the first thing I didn't really take it that Wong specifically needed her or anything, but I mean she was in Ta Lo, she is aware of the movie's events so it's not like they need to keep her in the dark, they're together at dinner so just ask them to come</quote> This is probably part of it, too. Like, you have two people aware of what took place, why not just bring both? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 07/16/22 8:15:25 PM #281:	Wong ~~probably also saw the bus video and knows Katy's associated with Shang Chi just from that alone.~~ <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:966626367] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Wong probably also saw the bus video and knows Katy's associated with Shang Chi just from that alone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 07/16/22 10:14:36 PM #282:	okay finally watched the Ms. Marvel finale while I appreciate that they turned this episode into ~~a superhero version of Home Alone, the entire Department of Damage Control storyline was a horrendous mistake~~ ~~not that the Clandestines were any better~~ --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:966628424] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>okay finally watched the Ms. Marvel finale while I appreciate that they turned this episode into a superhero version of Home Alone, the entire Department of Damage Control storyline was a horrendous mistake not that the Clandestines were any better </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 07/18/22 12:15:08 AM #284:	Alright, I saw Thor: Love and Thunder today and I just... didn't love it a whole hell of a lot? Like Gorr was the best part and he was barely in it. The humor just doesn't land most of the time and Korg is barely funny in it. Like keep that dude relegated to a much more minor role instead of Thor's number two. How the hell do you have Gorr the God Butcher and we see him kill exactly ONE GOD. And then we see Sif with an arm chopped off and it's mostly a comedic scene and Thor barely seems to give a fuck. That could have been a dramatic scene to show how grisly Gorr was and instead it's just "Haha you won't go to Valhalla but your chopped off arm will." "LOL Oh Thor you scamp." Like what the HELL was Gorr's motivation here? He gets the sword that makes him have incredible blood lust and he decides nah I don't want to kill the gods personally, I just want to make a wish and poof them all away. And he does that by... kidnapping children and letting them bring the Stormbreaker to him? Why the fuck isn't he massacring everyone to get to it? Why is Gorr killing all the gods in sight not enough motivation for Thor to come at them? And don't get me started on the complete waste of opportunity to explore the "gods are selfish" plot. There's a point where Gorr goes on about it but it's just... dropped. No interesting back and forth about it. It rattles Valkyrie but then we got a fight to do so OH WELL. And Thor just going "Yo you can wish to kill all the gods or wish your little girl back instead idk you should care about love my dude" like what. Thor is a dad now too? Where is any of this coming from? Because Korg mentioned Thor being a good dad once and because he talked to children and GAVE THEM ALL POWERS to kill the things effortlessly that absolutely kicked Thor, Valkyrie, and Jane's ass? Loki was sorely missed in this movie. The entire dynamic between him and Thor was what carried most of these movies, and without them it's really lacking. Valkyrie is just too cool for school for all of this shit, Korg is just a little joke machine, and Jane was... I don't even know how to describe it? But it didn't do much for me. I don't think this movie is as bad as Thor 2, but I sure liked the scenes with Loki and Thor a lot more in that one than most of the scenes in this movie with Thor and any of his friends. Thor 1 is absolutely a better film than this though, simply because it at least presented an interesting drama and inner turmoil for Thor. This one is just a really sloppy proclamation for "love" whatever the movie wants us to learn from it, because it never does a good job of it. The action was good at least. Christian Bale killed it with Gorr and you can tell he was really into the character but man did they need to do more for him. But aside from that, the comedy just wasn't there half the time and it felt like kind of a waste of time. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:966651180] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Alright, I saw Thor: Love and Thunder today and I just... didn't love it a whole hell of a lot? Like Gorr was the best part and he was barely in it. The humor just doesn't land most of the time and Korg is barely funny in it. Like keep that dude relegated to a much more minor role instead of Thor's number two. How the hell do you have Gorr the God Butcher and we see him kill exactly ONE GOD. And then we see Sif with an arm chopped off and it's mostly a comedic scene and Thor barely seems to give a fuck. That could have been a dramatic scene to show how grisly Gorr was and instead it's just "Haha you won't go to Valhalla but your chopped off arm will." "LOL Oh Thor you scamp." Like what the HELL was Gorr's motivation here? He gets the sword that makes him have incredible blood lust and he decides nah I don't want to kill the gods personally, I just want to make a wish and poof them all away. And he does that by... kidnapping children and letting them bring the Stormbreaker to him? Why the fuck isn't he massacring everyone to get to it? Why is Gorr killing all the gods in sight not enough motivation for Thor to come at them? And don't get me started on the complete waste of opportunity to explore the "gods are selfish" plot. There's a point where Gorr goes on about it but it's just... dropped. No interesting back and forth about it. It rattles Valkyrie but then we got a fight to do so OH WELL. And Thor just going "Yo you can wish to kill all the gods or wish your little girl back instead idk you should care about love my dude" like what. Thor is a dad now too? Where is any of this coming from? Because Korg mentioned Thor being a good dad once and because he talked to children and GAVE THEM ALL POWERS to kill the things effortlessly that absolutely kicked Thor, Valkyrie, and Jane's ass? Loki was sorely missed in this movie. The entire dynamic between him and Thor was what carried most of these movies, and without them it's really lacking. Valkyrie is just too cool for school for all of this shit, Korg is just a little joke machine, and Jane was... I don't even know how to describe it? But it didn't do much for me. I don't think this movie is as bad as Thor 2, but I sure liked the scenes with Loki and Thor a lot more in that one than most of the scenes in this movie with Thor and any of his friends. Thor 1 is absolutely a better film than this though, simply because it at least presented an interesting drama and inner turmoil for Thor. This one is just a really sloppy proclamation for "love" whatever the movie wants us to learn from it, because it never does a good job of it. The action was good at least. Christian Bale killed it with Gorr and you can tell he was really into the character but man did they need to do more for him. But aside from that, the comedy just wasn't there half the time and it felt like kind of a waste of time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/18/22 1:59:35 AM #285:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... ~~Loki was sorely missed in this movie.~~ I thought the film was okay and I think upon reflection this might be the biggest reason why. Not that Thor can't be great without Loki (like Infinity War and Endgame) but those were more supporting roles than lead ones. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:966652415] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>Loki was sorely missed in this movie.</quote> I thought the film was okay and I think upon reflection this might be the biggest reason why. Not that Thor can't be great without Loki (like Infinity War and Endgame) but those were more supporting roles than lead ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/18/22 4:32:52 AM #286:	watching eternals like halfway through, got annoyed at Arishems explanation of his whole deal and now am taking a break from watching Eternals --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:966653572] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>watching eternals like halfway through, got annoyed at Arishems explanation of his whole deal and now am taking a break from watching Eternals </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/18/22 5:47:51 AM #287:	uh ~~did that dude just fly into the sun~~ --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:966654038] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>uh did that dude just fly into the sun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/18/22 5:55:05 AM #288:	He did --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:966654089] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>He did </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/18/22 6:06:49 AM #289:	ok sure cool ~~ha ha just got it, he flew way too close to the sun, like Icarus!~~ that was... not as bad as I thought it would be? i enjoyed some of it for sure I feel like the dont interfere with stuff unless Deviants are involved logic sort of falls apart when you consider ~~that their whole goal was to maximize human population... seems like Arishem should have popped in and said hey you guys can actually interfere with this Thanos situation.~~ also I feel bad for Kingo. It seemed like Phastos could basically do his finger guns too + a million other things. --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:966654165] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>ok sure cool ha ha just got it, he flew way too close to the sun, like Icarus! that was... not as bad as I thought it would be? i enjoyed some of it for sure I feel like the dont interfere with stuff unless Deviants are involved logic sort of falls apart when you consider that their whole goal was to maximize human population... seems like Arishem should have popped in and said hey you guys can actually interfere with this Thanos situation. also I feel bad for Kingo. It seemed like Phastos could basically do his finger guns too + a million other things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 07/18/22 6:27:35 AM #291:	MoogleKupo141 posted... I feel like the dont interfere with stuff unless Deviants are involved logic sort of falls apart when you consider ~~that their whole goal was to maximize human population... seems like Arishem should have popped in and said hey you guys can actually interfere with this Thanos situation.~~ The Celestials ~~operate on a scale of millions and billions of years so a couple decades or even a couple hundred years while the population builds back up is ultimately nothing to them.~~ At least that's why I assume they didn't care. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:966654317] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like the dont interfere with stuff unless Deviants are involved logic sort of falls apart when you consider that their whole goal was to maximize human population... seems like Arishem should have popped in and said hey you guys can actually interfere with this Thanos situation.</quote> The Celestials operate on a scale of millions and billions of years so a couple decades or even a couple hundred years while the population builds back up is ultimately nothing to them. At least that's why I assume they didn't care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 07/18/22 8:00:54 AM #292:	Eternals is my least favorite MCU movie of what I've seen but I'd still put it about equal to the first Thor. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:966655118] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Eternals is my least favorite MCU movie of what I've seen but I'd still put it about equal to the first Thor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 07/18/22 11:40:12 AM #293:	All the stuff in biscuit's Thor 4 post is absolutely true, yet I still think it's an okay to good movie. If I compare it to Ant Man and the Wasp - its closest MCU counterpart - I think it's a better rom-com. As an action film / epic Marvel movie it does not work (even though its best scene is that black and white action scene). --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:966658809] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>All the stuff in biscuit's Thor 4 post is absolutely true, yet I still think it's an okay to good movie. If I compare it to Ant Man and the Wasp - its closest MCU counterpart - I think it's a better rom-com. As an action film / epic Marvel movie it does not work (even though its best scene is that black and white action scene). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 07/18/22 12:02:01 PM #294:	Oh no that's why some hate the new Thor. Eww girls! --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:966659272] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Oh no that's why some hate the new Thor. Eww girls! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/18/22 12:40:58 PM #295:	Oh hey it's LMS being weird about girls again --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:966660094] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Oh hey it's LMS being weird about girls again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 07/18/22 12:52:31 PM #296:	colliding posted... All the stuff in biscuit's Thor 4 post is absolutely true, yet I still think it's an okay to good movie. If I compare it to Ant Man and the Wasp - its closest MCU counterpart - I think it's a better rom-com. As an action film / epic Marvel movie it does not work (even though its best scene is that black and white action scene). See, I actually really like Ant-Man & Wasp a lot. It feels like a very different and very fun movie and I enjoy the scope of it. And I think all the drama and relationships work incredibly well. Most of the humor works there too. Love & Thunder tries to be some weird epic which doesn't feel anything like one. I think most of what they try with drama just doesn't work and none of the inter-personal relationships with Thor aren't very interesting. Hell, I'd argue that the themes of love and caring for one another are done a lot better in Ant-Man & Wasp too. I'd have to watch Ant-Man & Wasp again to see if it's actually better, but I know I enjoyed it more than Love & Thunder aside from when Christian Bale was on the screen. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:966660334] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite> <quote>All the stuff in biscuit's Thor 4 post is absolutely true, yet I still think it's an okay to good movie. If I compare it to Ant Man and the Wasp - its closest MCU counterpart - I think it's a better rom-com. As an action film / epic Marvel movie it does not work (even though its best scene is that black and white action scene).</quote>See, I actually really like Ant-Man & Wasp a lot. It feels like a very different and very fun movie and I enjoy the scope of it. And I think all the drama and relationships work incredibly well. Most of the humor works there too. Love & Thunder tries to be some weird epic which doesn't feel anything like one. I think most of what they try with drama just doesn't work and none of the inter-personal relationships with Thor aren't very interesting. Hell, I'd argue that the themes of love and caring for one another are done a lot better in Ant-Man & Wasp too. I'd have to watch Ant-Man & Wasp again to see if it's actually better, but I know I enjoyed it more than Love & Thunder aside from when Christian Bale was on the screen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 07/18/22 1:02:12 PM #297:	a cohesive antagonist even if not properly allowed to shine I'll still hold over Wasp & Ghost --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:966660513] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>a cohesive antagonist even if not properly allowed to shine I'll still hold over Wasp & Ghost </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 07/18/22 1:04:12 PM #298:	Ghost was bae tho --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:966660542] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Ghost was bae tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 07/18/22 1:10:03 PM #299:	Ghost stands out as a problem with that movie, yeah. I love Ghost in the comics so this kind of stripped the personality out of the character. I'd have to see it again to remember all of my issues with it, but I at least remember laughing during it more and the dramatic moments landing for the most part, which is more than I can say for Love & Thunder. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:966660660] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>Ghost stands out as a problem with that movie, yeah. I love Ghost in the comics so this kind of stripped the personality out of the character. I'd have to see it again to remember all of my issues with it, but I at least remember laughing during it more and the dramatic moments landing for the most part, which is more than I can say for Love & Thunder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 07/18/22 1:16:26 PM #300:	definitely the comedy lands better than L&T but I enjoyed L&T's emotional/dramatic moments very well when we got them, just wish they were given more time to breath without lobbing all the jokes that just an become annoying detraction --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:966660798] in MCU Genera... [t:80084154]...</cite> <quote>definitely the comedy lands better than L&T but I enjoyed L&T's emotional/dramatic moments very well when we got them, just wish they were given more time to breath without lobbing all the jokes that just an become annoying detraction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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