Current Events > Majority of single women aren't dating.

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https://youtu.be/VRq4I1a1iVw

it's obvious why but if i say it i'll get modded lol

dave_is_slick posted...

Unrealistic expectations is likely the cause.

Must; be >6ft tall, make 6 figures per year, have ripped body with 6 pack abs, dick >6in long, etc, etc.

I agree with @Imit8m3

Fony posted...

I definitely believe that men and women today do not care, and also rather just sit and complain about what the opposite sex actually wants out of a partner. I firmly believe that. you see it in many women and you see it in incels.

Some women would qualify as "incels" due to having traits and behavior so repulsive the men they want for relationships remain uninterested and aloof. There's a valid reason one of the first persons who literally self identified under the term is a woman.

"Oh but even the most unattractive women can still get laid by some random loser because there's always guys willing to sink that low for sex. "

So what? Adhering to that narrative is missing a significant point. Those women are still not getting what they really want: to locked down a successful high value man of status as a committed relationship partner. As far as they're concerned, they are basically sexless too since the thirsty losers they pity fucked are not worth counting. The sex with said losers barely has any value to these women, some of them would prefer to forget it ever happened out of regret. By that merit, psychologically these women can also identify themselves as "incels" because satisfying relationships are the fruit constantly out of their reach.

There's also noticeable similarities between outspoken male posters on social media bitter towards the opposite sex over dating standards and outspoken female posters on angry radfem sites bitching about the lack of sutiable men to date while bashing anyone with a Y chromosome. In most cases, they're practically cut from the same cloth and their pitiful dating/relationship success shows it...

ElleRagu posted...

it's obvious why but if i say it i'll get modded lol

A fan of Shadow Skill I see.

ClockworkHare posted...

There's also noticeable similarities between outspoken male posters on social media bitter towards the opposite sex over dating standards and outspoken female posters on angry radfem sites bitching about the lack of sutiable men to date while bashing anyone with a Y chromosome. In most cases, they're practically cut from the same cloth and their pitiful dating/relationship success shows it...

Yep.

Imit8m3 posted...

Must; be >6ft tall, make 6 figures per year, have ripped body with 6 pack abs, dick >6in long, etc, etc.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/8/AAJHVqAADOj-.jpg

@Irony

cringe

Says the LivingLegend alt that's gonna get glassed

Girls dont wanna date me

*super cringe*

@Irony 100% accurate

Living-Legendx8 posted...

Dating is so damn easy.

1. go get food together
2. Flirt
3. get a room at a motel for like $50
4. Bang
5. ?????????
6. profit

....I think you might be a prostitute dude. #5 is "Split money with my daddy"

Living-Legendx8 posted...

Dating is so damn easy.

1. go get food together
2. Flirt
3. get a room at a motel for like $50
4. Bang
5. ?????????
6. profit

What? Most girls dont want to bang after a sober daytime date getting food.

Tyranthraxus posted...

They're not doing that either.

No, a lot are and they prefer it that way.

dave_is_slick posted...

Unrealistic expectations is likely the cause.

hehe shots fired

Irony posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/8/AAJHVqAADOj-.jpg

This reminds me of hearing about an attempted meet up between 4chan's /r9k/, their incel board and some female counterpart on some other site. It flopped. Why? The guys were down because they just wanted to be loved. The ladies on the other hand, "ew". That's right, the undesirable and loneliest of females refused to match with the loneliest and undesirable of males lmao.

r/femcels went private due to getting messages from lonely guys on reddit.

dave_is_slick posted...

Unrealistic expectations is likely the cause.

Thats definitely a major cause.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/7/AAazv-AADSBD.jpg

Pepys Monster posted...

What? Most girls dont want to bang after a sober daytime date getting food.

You skipped step #2 then. Or youre just not good at step #2.

Meh, anecdotally what I see among my 20-something female friends is that their standards are probably too high. They usually don't OUTRIGHT spout off the "6 figures, 6 pack, 6 foot" spiel but it kinda becomes clear when taking a look at the few guys they would date.

Another thing is they seem to want commitment hard and early, and walk away if that's in question. Which is kind of a problem when you're limiting yourself to the somewhat rare type of guy who actually does find success on these hookup apps that are 80% dudes and 15% bots.

I'm really glad I met my current partner through my ethnic community, it feels good to be more or less living out that cringey tradcouple meme and no longer be in the modern dating rat-race.

Sad_Face posted...

This reminds me of hearing about an attempted meet up between 4chan's /r9k/, their incel board and some female counterpart on some other site. It flopped. Why? The guys were down because they just wanted to be loved. The ladies on the other hand, "ew". That's right, the undesirable and loneliest of females refused to match with the loneliest and undesirable of males lmao.

But they always tell guys they are the ones who need to lower their standards.....

KhlavicLanguage posted...

Meh, anecdotally what I see among my 20-something female friends is that their standards are probably too high. They usually don't OUTRIGHT spout off the "6 figures, 6 pack, 6 foot" spiel but it kinda becomes clear when taking a look at the few guys they would date.

Another thing is they seem to want commitment hard and early, and walk away if that's in question. Which is kind of a problem when you're limiting yourself to the somewhat rare type of guy who actually does find success on these hookup apps that are 80% dudes and 15% bots.

I'm really glad I met my current partner through my ethnic community, it feels good to be more or less living out that cringey tradcouple meme and no longer be in the modern dating rat-race.

This is so true and it is ok if women want to have these ridiculously high standards. They have a right too. People just need stop lying to average men and telling them they have a chance. No you don't

KhlavicLanguage posted...

Meh, anecdotally what I see among my 20-something female friends is that their standards are probably too high. They usually don't OUTRIGHT spout off the "6 figures, 6 pack, 6 foot" spiel but it kinda becomes clear when taking a look at the few guys they would date.

Another thing is they seem to want commitment hard and early, and walk away if that's in question. Which is kind of a problem when you're limiting yourself to the somewhat rare type of guy who actually does find success on these hookup apps that are 80% dudes and 15% bots.

I'm really glad I met my current partner through my ethnic community, it feels good to be more or less living out that cringey tradcouple meme and no longer be in the modern dating rat-race.

You have to read between the lines with women as they never openly admit anything like that. The other issue is the type of guy you described will never settle for them. They want that guy and he knows it - so he bangs them for a while and moves to the next one. And most of the time that guy is "dating down" with them just so he can bang a lot more. That gives those same women an ego boost because they got to "date up" or get their "dream guy", or whatever for a while, so they think they can get that all of time now and won't even interact with guys lower than that. They don't know they're all getting played for sex, and when they do it's too late.

They end up being those late 30's women on dating apps, early 30's single moms that figured that shit out too late. Or they just live in denial, get a bunch of cats and be miserable. I know a few like that right now in both scenarios : One with extremely high standards, one complaining because "all the good men are gone", and another one who is bitter with cats.

Always end up getting sucked into these topics, but long story short: if you dont have the partner that you desire, the person to blame is yourself.

Living-Legendx8 posted...

Always end up getting sucked into these topics, but long story short: if you dont have the partner that you desire, the person to blame is yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prw2B_03IzY

At least from a dating site perspective, as a man, I realize there are issues on the female side of things. They get bombarded with something stupid like a 1 to 100 ratio. On the other side of things, as a man, I could match with 3 out of 100 women, and even though I don't consider myself bad looking, I won't get any responses from women at all, and I know some of them exist, as I used to see them when I was working retail. What's worse, is that some dating sites force you to pay just to see a profile, which is ridiculous. So even if someone matches with me, I can't see their profile. Or more annoyingly via Bumble, a woman will match with me, but not send the first message.

There was a great video on it I saw a couple weeks ago of a woman from I think Europe going on dating sites as a man to see how they are, and it really opened her eyes to the lack of interaction from a guys perspective. They could message 2-3 dozen women and maybe 1 will get back to them and then they will just randomly ghost, and that the amount of matches decreased greatly as the days progressed. The first day she would see a couple hundred women, the next day maybe 10, and from there onward maybe 1 but mostly 0.

Number090684 posted...

No, a lot are and they prefer it that way.

62% are not and that's what the subject of the topic is about.

Ivany2008 posted...

At least from a dating site perspective, as a man, I realize there are issues on the female side of things. They get bombarded with something stupid like a 1 to 100 ratio. On the other side of things, as a man, I could match with 3 out of 100 women, and even though I don't consider myself bad looking, I won't get any responses from women at all.

What youre not realizing is that you dont get responses because youre not trying to do better for yourself.

assassingriskel posted...

This is so true and it is ok if women want to have these ridiculously high standards

There's a difference between high and unrealistic.

dave_is_slick posted...

There's a difference between high and unrealistic.

It is so cringe to blame expectations a woman does not want to have sex with you.

Super mega cringe.

Lacking attractive qualities is a personal problem.

dave_is_slick posted...

There's a difference between high and unrealistic.

This.

I know women in their late 30s and 40s who just had incredibly high standards and it was the main reason why they weren't get into into relationships or long lasting ones.

You can't expect your partner to have everything. You'd also have to offer something yourself too. Rich men don't want just models. They'll know if you're in it for the money. If you don't have anything of substance, it won' last.

Everyone in general shouldn't have crazy high standards. Obviously go for someone you are attracted to and values in common.. But there's no such thing as perfection and they can't check off a long list of yours.

Girls still getting dicked down by guys with meaningful relationships out of their reach is like a rich person complaining you cant buy everything with money.

List of things that cringe:

• Incel dudes thinking that women are missing out by not giving them a chance.
• Incel dudes thinking that they dont need to improve themselves to maybe get a woman to respond to a DM.
• Dudes who are broke talking about women using them for money.

Living-Legendx8 posted...

What youre not realizing is that you dont get responses because youre not trying to do better for yourself.

Spoken like someone who doesn't use the websites or have the same outcome as I have.... I'm fine with dating women, nearly every woman I've tried to date offline has at the very least wanted to be near me. That isn't me bragging, just how it is. I know how to treat them. What I'm telling you is that dating sites are a very different ballgame, at least where I live. You could have a great profile, decent photos, but with the amount of messages they get from creeps, and stress in general, the chances of your profile being even visited if you aren't at least an 8/10 is low.

I'm 36, My game is fine. I've been on plenty of dates offline and online. Most of the online ones messaged me first. I've gone through the local ringer. Like legitimately gone through the online ringer. I've had 1 no show a date, 1 threaten to kill me and get her pregnant the very same date, 1 ended up in hospital from drinking too much alcohol (and had like 5 different ID cards on her according to the EMTs), and 1 who atm is absolutely obsessed with me, and I like her back, but we live too far apart to make it work properly outside of a once a month hookup. Actually, I mentioned to her I was going to drop some weight, as college packed on a few pounds and she said she would do the same, and she's dropped 75 lbs since then (she started at 330, yes, I like bigger women, though she was a bit too big, didn't mention that to her).

Living-Legendx8 posted...

List of things that cringe:

* Incel dudes thinking that women are missing out by not giving them a chance.
* Incel dudes thinking that they dont need to improve themselves to maybe get a woman to respond to a DM.
* Dudes who are broke talking about women using them for money.

What I find interesting is that men need to constantly improve in order too attract women. Ok fair. But women seemingly don't have to improve or do anything too find sucess yet they complain about dating being hard. That does not make sense

AsucaHayashi posted...

Girls still getting dicked down by guys with meaningful relationships out of their reach is like a rich person complaining you cant buy everything with money.

Apt comparison

Ivany2008 posted...

Spoken like someone who doesn't use the websites or have the same outcome as I have.... I'm fine with dating women, nearly every woman I've tried to date offline has at the very least wanted to be near me. That isn't me bragging, just how it is. I know how to treat them. What I'm telling you is that dating sites are a very different ballgame

You wouldnt be complaining about online dating if you were successful dating women in person.

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This does not answer my question whatsoever. You approached it from a perceived risk to women that is the narrative often spun but you didn't address the fact that women do not have to put for much or any effort in the dating world. You said it is overwhelming....because you guys have numerous options

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I want to believe that, but I've watched women tell some of my coworkers that. Then turn around, and go out with some of the shadiest men I've ever seen because they were very attractive. In both cases they got hit/nearly assaulted & police were involved.

SolidxSnake posted...

I want to believe that, but I've watched women tell some of my coworkers that. Then turn around, and go out with some of the shadiest men I've ever seen because they were very attractive. In both cases they got hit/nearly assaulted & police were involved.

See this is why that narrative is hard too believe. I believe people hide behind the excuse of needing to vet in online dating when the only vetting they do is how hot/tall/rich he is

Living-Legendx8 posted...

You wouldnt be complaining about online dating if you were successful dating women in person.

....clearly reading isn't your strong suit. I was making a generalized point about online dating from the perspective of someone who used it for 3 years straight from 2011 to 2014.

Living-Legendx8 posted...

List of things that cringe:

* Incel dudes thinking that women are missing out by not giving them a chance.
* Incel dudes thinking that they dont need to improve themselves to maybe get a woman to respond to a DM.
* Dudes who are broke talking about women using them for money.

Things that cringe:

Your desperate need to prove yourself better than other users here and your constant and utter failure in doing so.

dave_is_slick posted...

Unrealistic expectations is likely the cause.

Having a job, decent personal hygiene, and not being a fucking creeper isn't a real high bar man.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

For men, they aren't improving on themselves. A lot of guys blame the world and women for being single, without self-improvement and lack of direction.

If it was only a matter of character, income, or weight, those are things that can be improved upon. But when woman demand guys at 6ft+ or a giant 12in dick then what?

Literally all they can do is blame the world at that point.

Not reading through this topic but I would bet money that at least 50% are trying to put every ounce of blame on either sex