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Who are the best coaches in the NFL right now? The ones that actually make their teams better and don't just win because they have the best players.

Tomlin somehow carried that Steelers team to the playoffs.

I feel like belichick has to be at or near the top perpetually until he isn't.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Tomlin somehow carried that Steelers team to the playoffs.

He also had a .500 record starting Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges for nearly an entire season

DUCK HODGES IN THE 24 1/2 CENTURY!!!!

I seriously don't even remember the name "Duck Hodges" so that sounded better.

Leonhart4 posted...

That Eagles team was so talented that they won the Super Bowl with Nick Foles. I don't think it means Pederson is a good coach, just like nobody thinks Barry Switzer was a good NFL coach because he won a Super Bowl with Jimmy Johnson's players.

...Against Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and a very talented Patriots team.

Also Switzer took over from Jimmy Johnson. Pederson took over from Chip Kelly.

I don't think Pederson is great, but 'good' is definitely not out of the question.

I guess with both Tomlin and Belichick, I have to wonder if they can do it without their Hall of Fame QB.

When Brady goes to Tampa and wins a Super Bowl and has another great year the next...it really makes you question how much credit Belichick deserved.

Same thing with Tomlin. I know Ben was injured quite a bit over his tenure but lets see him get to the Super Bowl with some "nobody".

Having said that, they're still both likely near the top of the list.

He just got to the playoffs with a "some nobody" at best quality QB and a team that was in shambles, though.

Crescent-Moon posted...

DUCK HODGES IN THE 24 1/2 CENTURY!!!!

I seriously don't even remember the name "Duck Hodges" so that sounded better.

His real name is Devlin lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4PVLzR9XcY

You have to have a legit all time great team to win with a mediocre QB (which is why Kubiak doesn't get credit for that Broncos Super Bowl. Everyone knows how great that defense was).

I don't think you need to get to a superbowl with some nobody to be considered a top coach. Players are just more important than a coach imo, I think bill taking the pats to the playoffs this year with a rookie who seems "fine" is good enough to let him retain the crown

Like, what are we gonna blame sean payton for starting jameis winston this year and say his coaching is why they didn't make the playoffs?

The Pats did have a fairly easy out of division schedule, though.

Seanchan posted...

Who are the best coaches in the NFL right now? The ones that actually make their teams better and don't just win because they have the best players.

It's a cliche top 3 but I'd probably say Belichick, Tomlin, and Payton (okay technically not in the NFL now but) They've all had HoF QBs and talent but they've also shown they can get teams to fight and overperform even when they are missing that (2008 Pats, this year's Pats, Steelers lately with Ben basically a Weekend at Bernie's character, Payton similarly dragging the Brees-less Saints to the verge of the playoffs)

I think the next tier for me would look something like this, no particular order:

Vrabel (Yeah, Titans have King Henry but I've been very impressed how he's had them going these past few years)
Harbaugh
McVay (Harder to tell because he had lots of talent on the team even before they took it to comedy levels this year but hey he got to the Super Bowl with Goff!)
Reid (time management memes aside I have to give props to the breadth of the resume)

Emeraldegg posted...

I don't think you need to get to a superbowl with some nobody to be considered a top coach. Players are just more important than a coach imo, I think bill taking the pats to the playoffs this year with a rookie who seems "fine" is good enough to let him retain the crown

Like, what are we gonna blame sean payton for starting jameis winston this year and say his coaching is why they didn't make the playoffs?

I think the fact that they nearly made the playoffs (and probably only didn't because they couldn't play Hill or Siemian for one game) is a huge credit to Payton as a coach.

I don't know why people are floating rumors of Aaron Rodgers to the Titans because it ain't happening. If Peyton Manning wouldn't come here after leaving the Colts, no big name QB is willingly coming here.

Leonhart4 posted...

I don't know why people are floating rumors of Aaron Rodgers to the Titans because it ain't happening. If Peyton Manning wouldn't come here after leaving the Colts, no big name QB is willingly coming here.

Well are the 2012 Titans the same skill position wise as the 2022 Titans would be? Nashville has also gotten more popular as a vacation spot.

Nah, the 2012 Titans weren't a QB away like these Titans are. Peyton made the right choice going to Denver, for sure, but Vols fans were hoping super hard he'd come home to finish his career.

I can only assume Rodgers will go somewhere unsuspected and I won't like it.

So uh, Miami.

Miami would be great.

Hell anywhere out of the NFC North would be great.

Rodgers will end up with the Washington Commanders. Following in the Top Pick of the draft he was drafted in, he goes to do what Alex Smith could not. Stay alive in Washington for an entire season.

Wherever he ends up (or if he stays in Green Bay) it'll be pretty funny if its not Denver. Because I get the feeling Denver hired Hackett in hopes he'd come with Aaron Rodgers. Even if it is only for about two years.

if Rodgers goes somewhere this year, it won't be the NFC (certainly not the north)

Yeah, it's very unlikely that Rodgers gets traded within the NFC since he's not a free agent. The Packers still control where he goes (or if he goes anywhere).

send him to the jets for full favre synchronicity

I mean I was joking, but I don't think it's that unlikely that he gets traded to an NFC team, especially if an NFC team offers the right price. I mean are they really going to say no to a huge haul, just because they might have to face Rodgers in the playoffs at some point in the future? Besides, he's on the wrong side of 30 for a Quarterback to be a long term solution. I'd say he's got maybe 4 more years left in him.

Rodgers is probably gone from wherever he's sent in 2-3 seasons.

I'd just take the best out of division offer from most teams.

Though I wouldn't send him to Tampa and let just him replace Brady.

Nobody should fear Rodgers in the playoffs. Hes barely .500 there

yeah but if he goes to another team he won't have to play playoff games in Lambeau anymore so he'll be fine

put him in a dome and watch him cook

no coincidence 2010 had two dome games and he always wins in dallas!

He just needs to dodge San Francisco

.What if he goes to San Francisco?

then he becomes Kevin Durant...?

LiquidOshawott posted...

He just needs to dodge San Francisco

.What if he goes to San Francisco?

He has to make sure he goes somewhere with competent special teams so that works.

LiquidOshawott posted...

He just needs to dodge San Francisco

.What if he goes to San Francisco?

San Francisco is really strict about vaccinations so I don't think he would be welcome.

defense showing up to the pro bowl

Apparently the Texans job is down to Flores and Josh McCown. This is gonna be good.

Rodgers going to another NFC North team is absolutely out of the question. No way would Gutekunst and Lafleur allow him to join a hated rival. He could end up in another division in the NFC, of course.

Teams that he'll never go to are:
Bears
Viqueens
Lions
Cowboys/McCarthy
Teams with a QB (so Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, Cardinals, Rams, and probably others)

Packers still hold the right to trade him where they want to, but because his deal needs to be restructured (his cap hit is ridiculous), he can demand a trade since he has that leverage. He didn't have the same leverage last year.

I just want this to be done with. There has already been more than enough negative press covfefe. If he leaves, he leaves. I'm ambivalent at this point since while I love his abilities, he's still a dick at the end of the day, and his toxic Prima Donna attitude can go.

Even if the Cowboys didn't have McCarthy, they're paying Dak too much money to trade for Rodgers because the Packers value draft picks over actual players (which is why I don't think he ends up in San Francisco. They traded all their draft capital to get Lance).

It's too bad McDaniels didn't take over for Belichick. We coulda had a McDaniels, a McDaniel, and a McDermott in the AFC East. With Saleh just waiting to get fired so the Jets could get in on the McD action but alas.

Still totally unfathomable to me that Rodgers only even played in the one super bowl. To be that talented and only get to one. Eli Manning won two. Crazy.

First coach of color hired this season! He's biracial remember. The NFL most definitely wants you to remember that.

Winning in football is hard! Marino only ever made it to one and never won one despite being way ahead of the curve as a passer. Brady just makes it look easy.

Ashethan posted...

First coach of color hired this season! He's biracial remember. The NFL most definitely wants you to remember that.

which means he only gets paid 50,000 per game to lose

Dan Marino is the ultimate example of "Oh he'll get back there he's totally due for it" that never happens.

https://twitter.com/davidcharns/status/1490521506652164102

Alvin Kamara arrested in Vegas for battery

The door of the NFC South gets even more open.

Looks like the frontrunner for the Texans job is Lovie Smith now

...Honestly, he wasn't that bad as DC last year.

He was pretty bad as the head coach of Illinois but college isn't a fit for everyone so we'll see

He had very limited playoff success, but honestly he was the best Bears coach...ever in my lifetime. By an almost impossible margin. I would say that's a good hire for the Texans if they go that route.

I forgot Lovie Smith still existed.

Apparently the packers are hiring bisaccia as their new special teams coach.

Kinda sucks for him honestly, he did p good as the interim in LV and now he gets a relegation but, hey what do I know