Current Events > C/D - If you spank your kids, or even believe in it, you're a POS

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Fluttershy posted...

i can't imagine you'd have anything interesting to say.

assuming makes an ass out of u and me

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i am going by how you went with sex toy insult in response to 'you are posting strawmen.'

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Fluttershy posted...

i am going by how you went with sex toy insult in response to 'you are posting strawmen.'

Did you just admit that your stuffed ponies are sex toys?

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The people refusing to post LOL right now is palpable (even tho they are irl)

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you framed them that way. again, stop trying to be witty, you're not.

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Fluttershy posted...

you framed them that way. again, stop trying to be witty, you're not.

why? you're not going to spank me, so it's not like you can stop me or anything....

I know you're not into that kind of stuff so I'm kind of invulnerable to your pony powers

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D.

It just works, whether you like it or not.

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i stopped you from posting bullshit strawmen with just the power of my words, and i didn't have to insult you to do it.

i can't stop you from acting like a child after being refuted. that's on you to act like an adult and to have answers to conflict. you won't, and don't.

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BeyondWalls posted...

I use to have to go pick my own switch off the bushes.

Same. If it was too small, I would get beat by that one, go get a better one and get beat by that one too

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Fluttershy posted...

i stopped you from posting bullshit strawmen with just the power of my words, and i didn't have to insult you to do it.

i can't stop you from acting like a child after being refuted. that's on you to act like an adult and to have answers to conflict. you won't, and don't.

This isn't going to end the way you want it to :D

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sounds like it just did.

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/mic drop

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Yea, as a kid I always thought being beat with a belt wasnt abuse, and anyone who disagreed was just overreacting. Took me a while to realize it was abuse.

I never found that it worked, especially not for me.

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*jingles keys*

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HagenEx posted...

D.

It just works, whether you like it or not.

Not according to any scientific study ever

Or countless personal anecdotes

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weekoldhotdog posted...

beating your kids is wrong
spanking your kids is reasonable
the fear of spanking should be enough for any child to behave.
every parent is different, using corporal punishment as an excuse to release stress or anger is not.

If I may, I do think its mostly just to release anger.

I mean, when its beating. That should be obvious. There are times parents genuinely do it to make you behave, but from what Ive observed, its mostly just a way to release anger built from whatever the child did and disguise it as discipline.

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TrainerNeo_02 posted...

If I may, I do think its mostly just to release anger.

I mean, when its beating. That should be obvious. There are times parents genuinely do it to make you behave, but from what Ive observed, its mostly just a way to release anger built from whatever the child did and disguise it as discipline.

reasonably noted, but rooted in anger and spanking in anger are two very different things.

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This is a complex issue. On one hand, you have a stern father type who may have an intricate physical relationship with his son. Some people just mutually agree to settle certain disputes with physicality. That isnt always healthy. I wont say whether it is or isnt often healthy to whichever group of people at whatever time.

On the other hand... you have blatant abuse & everything in between, and also lots of misguided efforts at punishment
or corrective action, and sometimes that can decolve into abuse one way or another, either because it fails & the person gets angry (either party) and lashes out, or what happens. The end result does tend to be the same. Bad tends to get worse with individuals, and good tends to get better as people settle down, but I do think society as a whole has gotten a whole hell of a lot better with age.

#yah

TrainerNeo_02 posted...

Took me a while to realize it was abuse.

no matter what kind of abuse it is, it tends to take a while to realize. Wasn't physical for me, but shouldn't have taken nearly 30 years to really understand.

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There is a lot of faith being put in parents to believe they only spank the actual bad kids that do actual bad things. It also begs the question, how did those kids get that bad in the first place? Who is even defining bad? I did nothing bad. I even got As and Bs mostly despite my "laziness". Spanking never changed me. It only obscured a cry for help.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

reasonably noted, but rooted in anger and spanking in anger are two very different things.

Thats what I said, I differ them between beating and spanking. Spanking is minor physical pain for actual discipline. Beating is getting a belt or some other object and beating your child for a mistake they made or bad thing they did. The latter is usually from anger.

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

There is a lot of faith being put in parents to believe they only spank the actual bad kids that do actual bad things. It also begs the question, how did those kids get that bad in the first place? Who is even defining bad? I did nothing bad. I even got As and Bs mostly despite my "laziness". Spanking never changed me. It only obscured a cry for help.

Sounds like you were spanked for the wrong reasons, probably just lazy parenting+anger management issues. I spank out of love for my child in wanting what's best for them, regardless of how someone else sees it right now, I'm looking out for their life long well being. I'm not trying to ditch my kids at 18, I want to be their best friends. Beating your kids is the quickest path to them never wanting to see you again.

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If my martial arts instructor hits me for doing something wrong, it may or may not be appropriate. Thats all Im saying.

cadcrafter posted...

I don't really get it either when pretty much every study ever says that physical punishment is more often then not harmful to a kid's wellbeing.
It would kind of be like saying "But I had my seat belt off and I survived a car crash just fine!" as an argument against seat belts...

This.

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Sadly, I really want to continue this conversation as like the loan representative of "responsibly disciplining" one's children, but I've been on gamefaqs for nearly 5 hours and I should probably be getting to bed. Just know that not everyone that spanks their children are bad parents.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

Sadly, I really want to continue this conversation as like the loan representative of "responsibly disciplining" one's children, but I've been on gamefaqs for nearly 5 hours and I should probably be getting to bed. Just know that not everyone that spanks their children are bad parents.

I did not consider it an argument, just explaining what i said. And no, they arent. Though parents who beat there children need to change their ways.

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Zeus posted...

This.

Yo, if there's anyone, ANYONE, that can attest to the fact my parents treated me like shit when I was younger, it'd be this guy. I've been here for TWENTY YEARS. I was 13 when I signed up, so he knows where I'm coming from. The last thing I want to do is scare my kids away from me like I did when I took a greyhound bus at 18 from arkansas to oregon to live with my now wife (of 18 years)

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There is a lot of faith being put in parents to believe they only spank the actual bad kids that do actual bad things.

red herring. resolve your conflicts without violence or abuse of any kind. this is my challenge to you as an adult. literally take five minutes of kid goes in room and you go in yours if you need to cool down, just be reasonable and thoughtful like an adult, it's your one job at that point. deep breaths. if it's not clear, i'm not shy with my anger. own that shit -- control that shit. getting angry is natural, pretending you're not is unhealthy.

(but honestly the only thing that gets me that angry is dark souls pvp -- neither here nor there *nudge xeth*)

if you're really pissed off go somewhere where you can sit on the floor and think about it for ten minutes.

Just know that not everyone that spanks their children are bad parents.

they could be better.

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I don't want to but it would be a last resort


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idk if he'll come back tho, zeus doesn't normally frequent CE

anyways, night guys, good chat. Even you, fluttershy.

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anyways, night guys, good chat. Even you, fluttershy.

wish i could say the same, but you were really childish.

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I sort of agree with the old Louis CK bit about how having the time to discipline your kids without ever hitting them is kind of a class privilege.

That said I've never hit my daughter.

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KeeperOfShadows posted...

Indeed, but you have to remember that moderation doesn't exist on CE. Either you don't hit your kids at all, or you're throwing full-force haymakers to their jaw. There are no tamer spankings here.

omg yes lmao

Most people here dont realize a normal spanking is only meant to sting for a few seconds.


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_HayleyWilliams posted...

"Physical violence isn't physical violence"

And if their brain can only understand violence, then won't their brain believe that violence is the solution?

what no?

wtf?

My parents spanked me growing up and we were never allowed to beat up our siblings, if we did we got punished.

Do you also think when people spank each other in the bedroom as their kink that this is violence? XD

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

XD Lmao I think you're more likely to be slapped with sexual harassment charges if you are slapping someone on the ass.


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We were taught in parenting class that spanking is bad because it teaches a child violence is ok, I dont believe in spanking anyway

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deoxxys posted...

Do you also think when people spank each other in the bedroom as their kink that this is violence? XD

Violence isn't just a legal term.

Some kinks are violent. Consensual, but violent. Are video games not violent if they aren't physically hurting you against your will?

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Deny x10.

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Lot of people in this topic could use a paddlin'

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ModLogic posted...

@AdrianZenz

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I think there are different degrees to spanking.

I've read much more on puppy training than child behavior, but from my understanding the litterature is pretty similar. It's at least very similar to some of the litterature in teacher studies.

People thought that you would get the best behaved dogs if you punished the dog for doing bad, by inflicting pain. Every modern dog trainer knows that's not needed, as it's way better to distract the dog before it does something bad and reinforce good behavior with something good (treats, play etc)

That being said, there are times when you need to correct your dog to get it's attention, by tugging the leash or grab its beard until he pays attention for example. And this can probably be compared to a mild spanking. It's not painful, but it's not what the dog wants.

I think a lot of people think of hurt and red asses when they think of spanking, but it can also just be mild slaps so that the kid just feels that there's a reaction to the behavior.

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C

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Big pornstar D.

This is the sole reason there is a whole generation of entitled snowflakes.

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To people saying spanking just mad eyou act out more. Would a time out and a grounding have changed it or would you have jsut did the same thing and learned to hide things more? Not saying spanking are the end all be all but a punishment is a punishment and I don't think any punishment would make you want to correct your ways if your solution is to just hide whatever your doing.

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C

It's weird that was the go to punishment for decades. Probably started by pedos trying to normalize touching kids.

weekoldhotdog posted...

Screw that, without laws I'd be a Raider Mad-Max or Fallout style. Don't speak for everyone when you tell me how I should be. This isn't some perfect world were everyone is the same and we're all hive minded.

weekoldhotdog posted...

Please, I'm not your enemy.

If laws are the only thing keeping you from going mad max then I'm not sure you can say that so confidently

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Ivany2008 posted...

I won't spank my kids. I'll use the methods taught to me by my father. Very creative methods. I'll let my kid have a tv/consoles in his bedroom. When he doesn't clean his room, I'll turn off the power to his bedroom, put a bolt lock on the power breaker, hand him a lantern and tell him that he can get the power back after he is done cleaning his room.

If they don't come home before curfue I'll have a tent set up in the back yard, because they aren't coming into the house as it will be locked. If I catch my daughter with a boy I'll wait until they are both asleep and then put the hose to them.

It's all about creativity. No need for violence.

Your a fucking tyrant son.

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I got punched in the face, denied food, had to go cut my own switch, got the wooden spoon, and the belt... and I turned out fine

A tap on the fingers ain't hurting anyone

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Spanking and beating are not the same.

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