Current Events > C/D - If you spank your kids, or even believe in it, you're a POS

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I will never understand how anyone could think hitting a kid is a positive thing to make them a better person.

If you think spanking a child is a good thing, I really want to know why you think that way. Explain it to me, please.

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I don't really get it either when pretty much every study ever says that physical punishment is more often then not harmful to a kid's wellbeing.
It would kind of be like saying "But I had my seat belt off and I survived a car crash just fine!" as an argument against seat belts...

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I dont think it should be done, but at the same time, having been spanked when I was a younger child, I think looking back that its a better deterrent than any other punishment.

Again, I dont think it should be done, but being told Id be spanked made me start behaving on the spot, Ill give it that.

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If you wouldn't hit an adult, then you shouldn't hit your kid

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PatFreiermuth posted...

Physical violence is not an acceptable way to deal with your problems, so its incredibly stupid to discipline children that way Youre literally teaching them to be a violent criminal who attacks people when they dont get what they want

Lol that not how spanking works

Its not as though the parent is beating the child down with their fist or backhanding them across the face lmao. Thats called child abuse not spanking.

A small flick on the ass, or back of legs with a wooden spoon isnt physical violence.

As to address TC why choose a spanking over another punishment? There is a phase in the development of a childs brain where they cant retain or understand vocal reasoning, you can tell them why they were in the wrong and they wont understand because the brain has to develop further. So obviously once they can reach this stage of comprehension, you wouldnt want to use this punishment.

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deoxxys posted...

small flick on the ass, or back of legs with a wooden spoon isnt physical violence.

As to address TC why choose a spanking over another punishment? There is a phase in the devolopment of a childs brain where they cant retain or understand vocal reasoning, you can tell them why they were in the wrong and they wont understand because the brain has to develop further.

"Physical violence isn't physical violence"

And if their brain can only understand violence, then won't their brain believe that violence is the solution?

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My dad beat me with a belt. I still have the belt.

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beating your kids is wrong
spanking your kids is reasonable
the fear of spanking should be enough for any child to behave.
every parent is different, using corporal punishment as an excuse to release stress or anger is not.

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people think kids are some kind of complete morons that can only respond to physical abuse, it's really weird
more like they just want to vent their frustrations and are using "teaching a lesson" as a shitty excuse

weekoldhotdog posted...

spanking your kids is reasonable

No, it's not

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Bad_Mojo posted...

No, it's not

It is, trust me, if you've got 3 kids under the age of 7, ruling with as a dictatorship and calling all shots until they are old enough to think for themselves and have common sense and enforcing those rules with practical warnings and ample chances to redeem oneself is perfectly okay to take the next step when all other options are exhausted. Apparently you've never thrown a fit in the middle of Wal-Mart and had your mother tell you there's a thousand switches between the store and home and she'll use everyone of them on your ass unless you straighten up.

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Who have you ever heard describe spanking children as "a good thing"?

And D. You can be a perfectly good person and spank your children.

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Confirm. I think my ex fiancee was a domestic abuser because she got abused as a child. IDK, though.

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KeeperOfShadows posted...

Who have you ever heard describe spanking children as "a good thing"?

It's not a "good thing". It's a last resort that will scare your child but will correct their behavior if used effectively.

Also: I used the word "reasonable", not "a good thing"

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That's an affirmative

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weekoldhotdog posted...

It's not a "good thing". It's a last resort that will scare your child but will correct their behavior if used effectively.

I agree. I was referring to the op's use of "a good thing", though.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

It's not a "good thing". It's a last resort that will scare your child but will correct their behavior if used effectively.

Also: I used the word "reasonable", not "a good thing"

If you wouldn't scare your wife, then don't scare your child.

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Confirm, unless the child says something racist, then slap the shit out of em.

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KeeperOfShadows posted...

Who have you ever heard describe spanking children as "a good thing"?

The person above you

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

If you wouldn't scare your wife, then don't scare your child.

I'm not my wife's guardian, nor her keeper....

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weekoldhotdog posted...

I'm not my wife's guardian, nor her keeper....

And yet you think it would be ok to hit kids

Either a kid is too young to understand anything, or old enough to be spoken to and punished in non-corporal ways

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I use to have to go pick my own switch off the bushes.

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PatFreiermuth posted...

If you do that to someone when you have a disagreement then you will be headed to jail on assault charges.

But officer, I was only spanking him!

What country do you live in where someone goes to jail over a disagreement getting slightly physical?

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

And yet you think it would be ok to hit kids

Either a kid is too young to understand anything, or old enough to be spoken to and punished in non-corporal ways

Which dystopian colony are you from? I'd like to move there, I hear it's perfect all year round!

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KeeperOfShadows posted...

What country do you live in where someone goes to jail over a disagreement getting slightly physical?

He lives in a civilized one.

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Speaking as someone who was belted, I don't think it makes your child behave so much as it makes them misbehave better. If you don't wanna get clapped, don't get caught. And when you're old enough, you can clap back. Hence why I still have the belt. Now I just need to find my dad.

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

He lives in a civilized one.

So Earth is uncivilized?

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This guy really wants to die on this hill

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BloodMoon7 posted...

Speaking as someone who was belted, I don't think it makes your child behave so much as it makes them misbehave better. If you don't wanna get clapped, don't get caught. And when you're old enough, you can clap back. Hence why I still have the belt. Now I just need to find my dad.

I can absolutely confirm that getting spanked led to my next spanking being worse, because I would just hide things harder.

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KeeperOfShadows posted...

So Earth is uncivilized?

Damn right it is, but strangely enough, getting my ass beat when I was a child raised me to be fearful of the law and to respect authority. Now I translate that into a more acceptable punishment for 2021 and viola, we got ourselves a bare palmed spanking that people accuse you of "hitting" people with. The skin of the modern snow flake is quite thin, I don't think they'd survive the traditional spanking, much less the tamer version I've adopted.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

Damn right it is, but strangely enough, getting my ass beat when I was a child raised me to be fearful of the law and to respect authority. Now I translate that into a more acceptable punishment for 2021 and viola, we got ourselves a bare palmed spanking that people accuse you of "hitting" people with. The skin of the modern snow flake is quite thin, I don't think they'd survive the traditional spanking, much less the tamer version I've adopted.

If you fear your parents, then they utterly failed as parents.

Don't hit a kid if you wouldn't hit an adult for the same reason. It's hypocritical to believe violence is only correct in self-defense, or if you take care of a child that can't fight back.

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

If you fear your parents, then they utterly failed as parents

Stop changing my words (to fit your narrative). I said I fear the law and respect authority.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

Damn right it is, but strangely enough, getting my ass beat when I was a child raised me to be fearful of the law and to respect authority. Now I translate that into a more acceptable punishment for 2021 and viola, we got ourselves a bare palmed spanking that people accuse you of "hitting" people with. The skin of the modern snow flake is quite thin, I don't think they'd survive the traditional spanking, much less the tamer version I've adopted.

Indeed, but you have to remember that moderation doesn't exist on CE. Either you don't hit your kids at all, or you're throwing full-force haymakers to their jaw. There are no tamer spankings here.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

Damn right it is, but strangely enough, getting my ass beat when I was a child raised me to be fearful of the law and to respect authority. Now I translate that into a more acceptable punishment for 2021 and viola, we got ourselves a bare palmed spanking that people accuse you of "hitting" people with. The skin of the modern snow flake is quite thin, I don't think they'd survive the traditional spanking, much less the tamer version I've adopted.

That sounds like a problem. You should obey laws because you are civilized and educated about why the law is there, not because you're afraid. If you're afraid of the law, it defeats the purpose, laws are there for your safety.

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KeeperOfShadows posted...

Indeed, but you have to remember that moderation doesn't exist on CE. Either you don't hit your kids at all, or you're throwing full-force haymakers to their jaw. There are no tamer spankings here.

Well said.

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BloodMoon7 posted...

That sounds like a problem. You should obey laws because you are civilized and educated about why the law is there, not because you're afraid. If you're afraid of the law, it defeats the purpose, laws are there for your safety.

Screw that, without laws I'd be a Raider Mad-Max or Fallout style. Don't speak for everyone when you tell me how I should be. This isn't some perfect world were everyone is the same and we're all hive minded.

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D, but it should only be used in extreme circumstances to serve as a deterrent against reckless or dangerous behavior. Also, just spanks on the behind. Anything further is overboard.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

Stop changing my words (to fit your narrative). I said I fear the law and respect authority.

Because your parents (your authority) terrified you. If you're going to argue that children are sentient enough for nuanced thought, then that kind of throws a wrench in the "kids don't know better and you need to have a last resort" argument. It's not like most people who got spanked stopped getting spanked at the age of 5. I was getting hit when I was 16 for not doing my fucking homework.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

Well said.

Hit a co-worker for being late again and let us know the results

Very few things kids do are high stakes.

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weekoldhotdog posted...

Screw that, without laws I'd be a Raider Mad-Max or Fallout style. Don't speak for everyone when you tell me how I should be. This isn't some perfect world were everyone is the same and we're all hive minded.

True. But that's why law enforcement is in place, for people like you. You're essentially saying that you would commit crimes if you weren't turned into a whipped pup by your parents. And that's pretty concerning? What would happen if something overrode your fear? You'd become a threat. To live under the law, one must understand the reasoning for said law. After all, some laws can become unjust. If the law told you to kill an innocent, would you do it? Sounds like you're just a mindless drone.

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

Because your parents (your authority) terrified you. If you're going to argue that children are sentient enough for nuanced thought, then that kind of throws a wrench in the "kids don't know better and you need to have a last resort" argument. It's not like most people who got spanked stopped getting spanked at the age of 5. I was getting hit when I was 16 for not doing my fucking homework.

Your parents were not my parents and I am not your mom and dad. I see you are *really* passionate about this and understand that I too came from a *tough love* family. I am not my parents and the way that I applied spanking was over when my kids were 6 7 and 8. They're now 10, 12, and 13 and I haven't spanked them in about a good 6 years. I just understand why a parent would use it and should use it if they have no other option. It's not the best choice, but sometimes the best choice isn't available.

Please, I'm not your enemy.

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

Hit a co-worker for being late again and let us know the results

Very few things kids do are high stakes.

Also: bad analogy, spanking a child will not net you a felony assault in any of the 50 states.

also to BloodMoon7's statement: I plead the 5th

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If you tell kids nicely, they will ignore or mock you.
If you yell at them, you are being mean to them.
If you spank them, it's child abuse.

Wtf are we supposed to do then?

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KeeperOfShadows posted...

And D. You can be a perfectly good person and spank your children.

Deny

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