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Crescente
10/01/21 7:21:04 PM
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They always blow up/get modded/people getting really heated. What is up with this kind of topic that just generates so much heat?
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Heartomaton
10/01/21 7:23:45 PM
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Very touchy subject for people who like to discriminate against others for things they can't help.

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Smackems
10/01/21 7:23:51 PM
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Iunno. I don't understand the point in arguing about it here

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Ryangrad
10/01/21 7:24:34 PM
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nfearurspecimn
10/01/21 7:25:24 PM
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Because trans people are discrimated against, and people that discriminate against them feel attacked by being called out.

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TommyG663513
10/01/21 7:29:09 PM
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Because Trans issues are actually really complicated and society has not entirely sorted out how to make it all work

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SierraDawn
10/01/21 7:30:59 PM
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Because about half of the population hate us?

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nfearurspecimn
10/01/21 7:31:48 PM
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SierraDawn posted...
Please don't be creepy...


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10/01/21 7:31:59 PM
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AirFresh
10/02/21 5:19:26 PM
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Trans acceptance has taken a very aggressive stance usually with mocking so people against it also get heated. I understand both sides but am 100% with the transgendered people because it is frustrating that in 2021 people are still being bigoted. That being said the aggressive tone is going to foster hate, it's just how it is in society. Gay acceptance for example is still being questioned despite it being common place for people to just go "Yeah it's a normal human thing".

Give it about 5-10 years and it won't be as heated anymore and just mellow out.

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SIayer_22
10/02/21 5:20:22 PM
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Because gunplagirl flies in and immediately tries to pick a fight with everyone who disagrees with her.
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SoggyBottomBoy
10/02/21 5:21:04 PM
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Cant say what I want to.

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AldousIsDead
10/02/21 5:21:50 PM
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Ryangrad posted...
Lots of hateful bigots?
Hyup.

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Graycap
10/02/21 5:23:00 PM
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Because like any debated subject a fraction of people take really dumb stances on it.
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BloodMoon7
10/02/21 5:23:31 PM
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I preemptively strike gunplaygirl in her opinions. I disagree and pull out my CEgun.
It shoots incel blasts. You can't escape the cringe.

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Starks
10/02/21 5:23:51 PM
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Because people are assholes
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fohstick
10/02/21 5:24:26 PM
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Tappor
10/02/21 5:24:44 PM
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cause people love having opinions about shit that doesn't affect them in the long run

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Flauros
10/02/21 5:24:47 PM
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Depends on the topic.

A lot of the puff piece ones get positive responses

The mixed bag ones are usually sports/bathroom debates

The real spicy ones are crime report topics.

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AirFresh
10/02/21 5:26:36 PM
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SIayer_22 posted...
Because gunplagirl flies in and immediately tries to pick a fight with everyone who disagrees with her.
Because she is trans and it's a very touchy subject for her and she has a cause worth fighting for. This is like getting mad at people who are upset about getting screwed over financially and then the companies going "Oh well I'm PAYING you, be happy with what you get!". Think about her perspective for once, being called a freak, name called, etc all necause she wants to feel normal. It's like why you jump in on Pitbull topics and get offended because you jave a pitbull buddy yet they are made out to be these savages that need to be exterminated. I don't always agree with her but she has a right to be on the offense but like my previous point in thos topic that's also going to get her into shit because it's just not accepted.

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Xavier_On_High
10/02/21 5:26:44 PM
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It's a weird debate, because one side is simply asking to be treated with dignity, while the other side thinks that that means they, personally, are being genocided for their views

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yutterh
10/02/21 5:28:32 PM
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Flauros posted...
Depends on the topic.

A lot of the puff piece ones get positive responses

The mixed bag ones are usually sports/bathroom debates

The real spicy ones are crime report topics.

I had a topic a few days about about me basically being a afab cis male (cool term I learned that I'm basically am lol) got taken down for trolling apparently. I don't think it was offensive, but maybe I'm wrong.

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Flauros
10/02/21 5:29:49 PM
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yutterh posted...


I had a topic a few days about about me basically being a afab cis male (cool term I learned that I'm basically am lol) got taken down for trolling apparently. I don't think it was offensive, but maybe I'm wrong.
the driver license topic? How the fuck was that trolling in any way shape or form?

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SIayer_22
10/02/21 5:32:19 PM
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AirFresh posted...

Because she is trans and it's a very touchy subject for her and she has a cause worth fighting for. This is like getting mad at people who are upset about getting screwed over financially and then the companies going "Oh well I'm PAYING you, be happy with what you get!". Think about her perspective for once, being called a freak, name called, etc all necause she wants to feel normal. It's like why you jump in on Pitbull topics and get offended because you jave a pitbull buddy yet they are made out to be these savages that need to be exterminated. I don't always agree with her but she has a right to be on the offense but like my previous point in thos topic that's also going to get her into shit because it's just not accepted.

Going into a topic and immediately being aggressive with me because I want to have children is not okay, sorry.

I said I wanted to be with a woman that could have children, and she spent the entire topic calling me a bigot and a transphobe.

She has the right to immediately do that, I guess, by your logic.

She is unreasonably aggressive in every trans topic, and unless you immediately pledge your opinion to her, she will attack you and call your bigot and transphobe because saying those is apparently not moddable.
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nothanks1
10/02/21 5:34:03 PM
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Depends
There are definitely radicals on both sides
the ones that think anyone who isn't trans need to go die for not 100% accepting the fact they want to identify as whatever
While the opposite park has people thinking trans people should all die

then somewhere in the middle you have people who go something like 'I don't really disagree with transpeople but i don't think I could date one' are being bombarded by the radicals on the pro-trans
Meanwhile you have people who go 'I could probably date someone who's trans if I liked them' being bombarded with death threats by the radicals against transpeople

so if you cut out the radicals, you can have a nice discussion.
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specialkid8
10/02/21 5:36:35 PM
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Because CEmen are incapable of understanding or participating in nuance.

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iPhone_7
10/02/21 5:57:04 PM
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Women are women
Transwomen are women
Therefor women are women

Theres no nuance to it. Either you view transwomen as women or you view them as lesser.

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Questionmarktarius
10/02/21 6:00:07 PM
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Because, automatic vs manual is an argument that will never end.

...hold on, I think I misunderstood what this was about.
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EngineerGamer
10/02/21 6:04:45 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
then somewhere in the middle you have people who go something like 'I don't really disagree with transpeople but i don't think I could date one' are being bombarded by the radicals on the pro-trans
yeah i hope this weird growing "you should be pansexual or else you're a bigot" stance is gonna fizzle out super fast because normies will reject it without batting an eye
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cuttin_in_farm
10/02/21 6:06:09 PM
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Honestly?

At least on CE, its because people who are in support of transgender folk are extremely belligerent, self-righteous, and naive to the mindset of others. Like mentioned, that gunplaya person is a prime example.

You obviously have trolls. But they are pretty transparent to spot.

But 9 times out of 10, someone who isnt completely caught up on the transgender movement gets their character attacked relentlessly, and any defending is met with gaslighting.

Transgender topics here also have the most percentage for the Research that on your own rebuttals.

I honestly dont see blatant bigotry go unmoderated. Its possible I dont see the right topics. But no topic besides Calyspo based topics get nearly as heated. And I think the defensive nature of things cultivate it.

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Graycap
10/02/21 6:07:24 PM
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EngineerGamer posted...

yeah i hope this weird growing "you should be pansexual or else you're a bigot" stance is gonna fizzle out super fast because normies will reject it without batting an eye

Dating trans isn't pansexuality tho.
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EngineerGamer
10/02/21 6:09:43 PM
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Graycap posted...
Dating trans isn't pansexuality tho.
for dating/sex purposes i don't consider mtf trans people to be the same as afab women (although i see the argument, it's entirely a semantic one that i genuinely hope no one ever attempts irl) so as a cishet male i'm not willing to date one
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yutterh
10/02/21 6:23:05 PM
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Flauros posted...
the driver license topic? How the fuck was that trolling in any way shape or form?

Well it was a little more then just a drivers license, but yeah. I guess because I asked if it made me trans. Of course I meant anecdotally but I guess people took it literally.

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AldousIsDead
10/02/21 6:24:02 PM
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yutterh posted...
Well it was a little more then just a drivers license, but yeah. I guess because I asked if it made me trans. Of course I meant anecdotally but I guess people took it literally.
It was in really poor taste at best.

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ElatedVenusaur
10/02/21 6:28:41 PM
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I generally dont take kindly to people telling me they understand me better than I do.

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Gobstoppers12
10/02/21 6:31:41 PM
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The one with the dating poll was really getting spicy when the mods nuked it from orbit.

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ThePhantomMedic
10/02/21 6:33:07 PM
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People are too aggresive from both sides tbh. Youre not gonna get anyone to support you being an ass
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DocileOrangeCup
10/02/21 6:33:43 PM
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ElatedVenusaur
10/02/21 6:35:10 PM
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ThePhantomMedic posted...
People are too aggresive from both sides tbh. Youre not gonna get anyone to support you being an ass
And this both sides nonsense isnt a great look either.

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AldousIsDead
10/02/21 6:36:28 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
And this both sides nonsense isnt a great look either.
Never is.

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yutterh
10/02/21 6:43:19 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
It was in really poor taste at best.

Well quick explanation. Is that my birth certificate says I'm male but I was put into the system as female. So according to the government I was female tell 21/22 when one of my jobs HR found the error. Had to go through soem bullshit to get it changed to male. Turns out while yeah I'm obviously not trans, I could be considered a afab cis male.

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AldousIsDead
10/02/21 6:44:38 PM
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yutterh posted...
Well quick explanation. Is that my birth certificate says I'm male but I was put into the system as female. So according to the government I was female tell 21/22 when one of my jobs HR found the error. Had to go through soem bullshit to get it changed to male. Turns out while yeah I'm obviously not trans, I could be considered a afab cis male.
I recall, yes. It was in really poor taste.

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trappedunderice
10/02/21 6:46:44 PM
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Because facts don't care about feelings
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Tenlaar
10/02/21 6:47:16 PM
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yutterh posted...
I could be considered a afab cis male.
No, you couldnt, because
yutterh posted...
my birth certificate says I'm male

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inloveanddeath0
10/02/21 6:48:00 PM
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Because there there's so many people waiting in the waiting list

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AirFresh
10/02/21 7:19:03 PM
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SIayer_22 posted...
I said I wanted to be with a woman that could have children, and she spent the entire topic calling me a bigot and a transphobe.
I did not see that one. That's just ridiculous and no adoption is not the same thing, I've noticed that being an argument lately.

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SIayer_22
10/02/21 7:20:44 PM
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AirFresh posted...

I did not see that one. That's just ridiculous and no adoption is not the same thing, I've noticed that being an argument lately.

Was a good amount of time ago, and it frustrated the hell out of me. Tons of other stuff soured me on her, but that was my very first impression of her.
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yutterh
10/02/21 8:14:55 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
I recall, yes. It was in really poor taste.

Yeah, see. I didn't mean for it to be offensive. Thought it was a interesting thing to consider. I understand why it was deleted now. Sorry for any offense

Tenlaar posted...
No, you couldnt, because

Gotchas, it was something someone brought up in the topic.

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Trumble
10/02/21 8:19:02 PM
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Both sides of the debate feel extremely strongly that their position is the only correct one. In any situatoin where that's the case - no matter which side is right, or whether one is at all - it will always become heated; and heated debates somewhere like CE always quickly devolve into moddable territory. Though there's certianly a common thread among those who veer into that territory the quickest...

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ThePhantomMedic
10/02/21 8:25:07 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
And this both sides nonsense isnt a great look either.

I dont care that you dont wanna hear how it is...
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