Poll of the Day > Healthcare

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Really is just way too expensive. Has been for a long time in the US but just holy shit it keeps getting worse and worse.

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Food and housing too!

hungrymike posted...

Food and housing too!

yes

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Food is ok. Housing is not though and neither is the cost of higher education.

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Should just have free healthcare like everybody else

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I mean that's what you get when a public service is run for profit.

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FatalAccident posted...

Should just have free healthcare like everybody else

should

but just wont because thats how the US is

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They don't want us to live. They want to kill people.

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Mead posted...

should

but just wont because thats how the US is

The population size is too large to make it completely free unfortunately.
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Revelation34 posted...

The population size is too large to make it completely free unfortunately.

That doesnt hold water when larger countries with less wealth have managed it just fine.

Healthcare must be socialized. Full stop.

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Revelation34 posted...

The population size is too large to make it completely free unfortunately.

This isn't how things work. The US has more resources because of its larger population. It's why population growth is considered such a crucial metric for economic growth.

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Elder care is insane, too.

My coworker was looking for a place to care for his elderly mother-in-law. She has dementia and requires a walker to get around. Found a place that offers an affordable, flat rate 4-year plan (because I guess statistically most residents don't make it through the 4 years).

Well she's still kicking and once that plan expired they jacked the rates up to $9,000 a month.

So they start looking for a different place. They discover that Medicaid doesn't kick in unless you're essentially broke. They found a place that will take her, but won't accept Medicaid until she's burned through her life savings.

But hey we have cool missiles and fighter planes and billionaires get tax breaks and go to space so that's cool I guess

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Far-Queue posted...

Well she's still kicking and once that plan expired they jacked the rates up to $9,000 a month.

wtf I dont know anyone that could afford that

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Mead posted...

That doesnt hold water when larger countries with less wealth have managed it just fine.

Healthcare must be socialized. Full stop.

What larger countries?Mead posted...

wtf I dont know anyone that could afford that

Elder care is ridiculously overpriced. It's just a scam. Like the Better Call Saul thing I bet that isn't completely fictional either.
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Revelation34 posted...

Elder care is ridiculously overpriced. It's just a scam.

a scam maybe but there is no alternative for a lot of people and their loved ones

Revelation34 posted...

What larger countries?

any developed ones





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Yeah, it tends to be one of the less talked about things in the US. Even conservatives that talk about cutting the budget, seem to blind to the rising health care cost even though, at this point the US government spends more on medicare & medicaid than even the military by a large margin and that is not even talking State Health care expenditures, which can be pretty high as well. It is ludicrious how much we spend on it, as we are pretty much approaching socialized countries health care expenditures and even exceeding them in certain cases at the governmental level on a supposedly private system that still have to purchase ourselves.

Yeah and insurance sucks. I spending $300 a month for insurance that pretty much covers nothing until I meet a $8,000 out of pocket and the cost of anything is mind boggling. I mean, even the price to do something routine like put a cast on a broken bone can cost up to $14,000. Gosh forbid you have to do any surgical procedure that can run in the $100,000's. I just don't know where all this money is going. It certainly is not going to the doctors, they would be all scrouge mcduck rich at the prices that insurance charges for these things and the insurance still thinks they are cost too much and wants to replace them with Nurse Practitioners all the time. It just seems like a massive scam at this point

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dragon504 posted...

Food is ok. Housing is not though and neither is the cost of higher education.

Food is getting pretty bad as well. If you shop carefully it's not too bad still, and you can certainly survive, but the cost for any kind of meat is getting insane. It costs more to eat at home and buy hamburger meat, then it does to eat out.

It was $10/pound of 80% ground beef for instance. You can literally go to Jack in the Box and get 1/4 pound meat patties for 1.25$ a pop, so a full pound of fully cooked and prepared hamburger is only $5, but buying it at the store is twice that.

That being said, most places that are NOT fast food (and even many fast food places if you don't buy sides of hamburger patties and buy the actual burger) have increased prices drastically. You basically can't get a basic 1/4th burger most places for less than $5, or a simple value meal for less then $10.

Eating out, solo, is generally over $20 a pop. Getting anything delivered by uber eats is always over $30.

Even if you JUST ate out once a day, at this point that would be $600 a month.

So yeah, you can still grocery shop for $50/week if your really careful, but what you will be eating now is not nearly as good as even a year ago, and if prices keep raising your gonna see even the cheapest stuff getting expensive enough that people won't be able to live on less than $100 a week soon.

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Meat (particularly beef) SHOULD be more expensive than it currently is.

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Beef has gone up lately here

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Clench281 posted...

Meat (particularly beef) SHOULD be more expensive than it currently is.

lmfao no it shouldn't

it needs to be cheaper, and should be cheaper given the sheer amount of it being produced.

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helIy posted...

lmfao no it shouldn't

it needs to be cheaper, and should be cheaper given the sheer amount of it being produced.

we are gonna permanently fuck up this planet if we keep producing so much meat

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Mead posted...

we are gonna permanently fuck up this planet if we keep producing so much meat

We can just terraform it in the far future.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

Beef has gone up lately here

My beef has gone up lately, too

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Revelation34 posted...

We can just terraform it in the far future.

I question whether we will develop that kind of capability

especially if we are overwhelmed by extreme weather and crop failures/desertification both of which are increasing exponentially

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Healthcare is only for the priveleged rich white people.
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LeetCheet posted...

Healthcare is only for the priveleged rich white people.

lets not embrace that notion

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Mead posted...

I question whether we will develop that kind of capability

especially if we are overwhelmed by extreme weather and crop failures/desertification both of which are increasing exponentially

I was just making a shitty joke.
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I love recently being charged $300 to have some vials of my blood run through a machine... and that's not even a particularly bad one, but come on. Why even be paying the insurance company so much a year when I would've just paid that without insurance too? Oh but I would've had to pay for the expensive doctor visit that preceded the blood draw, which is like the only thing they pay for, I guess that's how they get you