Poll of the Day > How is Reddit, for all its size and market share, still allowed to be this crap?

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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/05/21 1:05:24 PM
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It's a broken website. Constantly going down, constantly malfunctioning, but it's more or less the go-to website for long form discussion.

I think this is reflective of a larger issue with today's Internet. Malfunctions & downtime are way more par for the course now than they used to be. GameFAQs went down when Sonic was announced for Brawl, and that was exceptional. Reddit goes down once a month and we're like "Well, that's just Reddit, one of the biggest websites on the Internet, that's just acceptable functionality for Reddit."

What site in 2008 was as big as Reddit is today? We wouldn't have put up with that site being that bad back then. But we put up with it today because tech is now so big, there's nowhere to go. What're you gonna do? Go to Ruqqus? That's what they said about Voat. And now look at what's become of Voat.

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Reigning_King
07/05/21 1:06:24 PM
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Your real problem is that you're on reddit at all.
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Mead
07/05/21 1:09:59 PM
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If its bothering you this much then youre spending too much time there


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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/05/21 1:20:12 PM
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Reigning_King posted...
Your real problem is that you're on reddit at all.


Mead posted...
If its bothering you this much then youre spending too much time there

I don't want to be on Reddit, but there's nowhere else to go.

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Mead
07/05/21 1:21:27 PM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
I don't want to be on Reddit, but there's nowhere else to go.

There is an entire internet of other places to go

Plus you could always go out and explore the actual meatspace if you wanted to

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adjl
07/05/21 1:23:15 PM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
What site in 2008 was as big as Reddit is today?

Pretty much nothing. The Internet was starting to condense into larger, more monopolistic social media sites around that point (Facebook, Youtube, Reddit), but traffic to those sites has grown massively since then, such that virtually all of the modern monoliths see far more use now than they did at that point.

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Muscles
07/05/21 1:24:48 PM
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I don't go there much but I wish they would fix that awful layout, can't they just make the posts in the order they were written and in a straight line instead of that pyramid looking shit. Also it seems like sometimes people don't want to have any actual discussions, they just want to post their opinion and disregard every other post, which seems extremely pointless

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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/05/21 1:26:08 PM
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Mead posted...
There is an entire internet of other places to go

Plus you could always go out and explore the actual meatspace if you wanted to

Not if I actually want to reach the community at large.

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MeteoricBurst
07/05/21 1:26:49 PM
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I never got the appeal of Reddit. I only ever go there from somewhere else if someone links to it for something.

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Mead
07/05/21 1:26:49 PM
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Muscles posted...
I don't go there much but I wish they would fix that awful layout, can't they just make the posts in the order they were written and in a straight line instead of that pyramid looking shit. Also it seems like sometimes people don't want to have any actual discussions, they just want to post their opinion and disregard every other post, which seems extremely pointless

The layout is customizable, and there are several subs and communities where all people do is have discussions with each other

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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/05/21 1:30:23 PM
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Mead posted...
The layout is customizable, and there are several subs and communities where all people do is have discussions with each other

The majority of these subreddits have devolved into just posting memes. Because Reddit, while the best place we have for long form discussion, isn't exactly good for long form discussion. It's content-driven, so it's not discussion that rises to the top, it's whatever content people like best. Funny pictures & videos. Any place where discussion is happening, the population is so scarce that discussion is pretty much impossible.

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Mead
07/05/21 1:32:40 PM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
The majority of these subreddits have devolved into just posting memes.

Nope. Theyre still just people discussing things, youre just on the wrong subs.

ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
Because Reddit, while the best place we have for long form discussion, isn't exactly good for long form discussion. It's content-driven, so it's not discussion that rises to the top, it's whatever content people like best. Funny pictures & videos. Any place where discussion is happening, the population is so scarce that discussion is pretty much impossible.

yes its an aggregate based site, theres plenty of other sites on the internet if that isnt what you are looking for

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Muscles
07/05/21 1:32:50 PM
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Mead posted...
The layout is customizable, and there are several subs and communities where all people do is have discussions with each other
I didn't know that, I'll have to try and figure that out. As far as the sub reddits go, that's what I go on to talk sports, but it seems there is much more engagement on the sports boards here or in YouTube despite much less comments overall.

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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/05/21 1:34:54 PM
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Mead posted...
Nope. Theyre still just people discussing things, youre just on the wrong subs.

yes its an aggregate based site, theres plenty of other sites on the internet if that isnt what you are looking for

You're not understanding. I want to talk to a lot of people. Not a handful of people. I used to be able to do that. Like @Muscles said, you find more engagement on GameFAQs of all places than on Reddit. And there ain't dick worth of engagement on GameFAQs.

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Mead
07/05/21 1:42:16 PM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
You're not understanding. I want to talk to a lot of people. Not a handful of people. I used to be able to do that.

Well, what did you say?

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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/05/21 1:44:13 PM
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Mead posted...
Well, what did you say?

You mean when I try to talk to a lot of people?

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Mead
07/05/21 1:50:05 PM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
You mean when I try to talk to a lot of people?

yep

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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/05/21 2:36:44 PM
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Mead posted...
yep

I say lots of things. But the issue is it's not just me, no one is having long form discussion like we used to be able to. It's all memes now.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/06/21 2:36:04 AM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
It's a broken website. Constantly going down, constantly malfunctioning

Gonna be honest, I spend more time there than I do here these days, and I barely notice any problems.
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Mead
07/06/21 3:21:53 AM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
I say lots of things. But the issue is it's not just me, no one is having long form discussion like we used to be able to. It's all memes now.

Youre on the wrong subreddits

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Zeus
07/06/21 3:30:27 AM
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Reddit is a burning trash heap whose problem was growing far larger than it had any right to grow. The site's format is awful. Offhand I can't think of something more of a pain to try to follow a conversation.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/06/21 3:36:23 AM
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Zeus posted...
Reddit is a burning trash heap whose problem was growing far larger than it had any right to grow. The site's format is awful.

So Twitter, then.



Zeus posted...
Offhand I can't think of something more of a pain to try to follow a conversation.

Again, Twitter - at least you can still sort of have conversations on Reddit. Twitter is essentially a room full of people shouting at each other and it's a fucking nightmare to parse in any realistic way. Even aside from the fact that character limits means that almost nothing of substance or meaning will ever really be discussed in anything other than the most superficial way.

Hell, I'll even toss GameFAQs in the mix, when people hijack a topic and turn it into a shitshow isn't much better - and that happens often enough to be a significant problem.

Bad subreddits are bad. But I'd happily take most of the better subreddits over anything that's ever been posted on Twitter, and most of what's posted here.

Because there's at least a CHANCE you can have an intelligent conversation on Reddit.
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Judgmenl
07/06/21 5:33:54 AM
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Reddit is "old man yells at clouds" personified.
Also /r/watamote is the best subreddit.

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DANTE20XX
07/06/21 6:53:44 AM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
the go-to website for long form discussion.
Nobody uses it for that. I don't think the comment reply system allows for this honestly. Its horrible if that's your goal.

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KodyKeir
07/06/21 7:09:02 AM
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old.reddit.com

your welcome.

DANTE20XX posted...
I don't think the comment reply system allows for this honestly.

especially on comment chains with more then a hundred replies and you are using anything other then desktop

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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/07/21 5:51:26 AM
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Mead posted...
Youre on the wrong subreddits

I'm not though. GameFAQs as a whole has about <2000 registered members on at any given moment.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards

I'm up with the worms right now and there are two separate Smash subreddits I could talk about Smash on, whose activity now dwarfs GameFAQs at present.

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashBrosUltimate/

Neither one has been good for discussion, especially for me. But the fact that this is where all the people go now would suggest that it is good for discussion. Somehow I get more done on a site as dead as GameFAQs. How? Because GameFAQs is simply built better for this kind of thing.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/07/21 6:45:17 AM
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I only go there if it's a search result for a question
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KodyKeir
07/07/21 7:04:49 AM
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Also, you will want the browser extension RES

And if you end up becoming a mod, the extension Toolbox

if you're stuck on mobile, Apollo (apple) or Reddit is Nice (android) or a really old phone and an old build of the official app (like v2 or something, good luck finding it if it is not already installed)

They (Reddit) wanted to offer certain features as premium to users but third parties were already doing those things for free; then they introduced new.reddit and forked their own product making it a nightmare to manage.

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Mead
07/07/21 10:49:16 AM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
How? Because GameFAQs is simply built better for this kind of thing.

yeah cause nobody wants to read entire essays about what randoms think about smash bros

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ItsKaljinyuTime
07/07/21 7:35:51 PM
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Mead posted...
yeah cause nobody wants to read entire essays about what randoms think about smash bros

But why am I having more success on GameFAQs?

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KodyKeir
07/08/21 8:29:45 PM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
But why am I having more success on GameFAQs?
People here have a genuine desire to want to help (or at least prove through spite that they are better than) others.

Also, probably a level of maturity difference where you are more likely to be talking to an adult here.

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