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Shablagoo 07/05/21 12:18:44 AM #51:	sabrestorm posted... communism makes everyone a slave to a dictator oh ok pure --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955754616] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>sabrestorm posted... </cite> <quote>communism makes everyone a slave to a dictator</quote> oh ok pure </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 07/05/21 12:29:06 AM #52:	State capitalist dictatorships aren't socialist or communist despite what they may call themselves. Just like many places say they are democracies but don't have actual elections. If you want to debate a socialist economic system you can't use examples of capitalist countries that call themselves socialist for vestigial political reasons for why it would be bad. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:955754841] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>State capitalist dictatorships aren't socialist or communist despite what they may call themselves. Just like many places say they are democracies but don't have actual elections. If you want to debate a socialist economic system you can't use examples of capitalist countries that call themselves socialist for vestigial political reasons for why it would be bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 07/05/21 12:30:43 AM #53:	sabrestorm posted... by way do you have any idea how many American troops have lost their lives fighting communism, thousands in Vietnam alone American troops dont fight communism, the CIA does that --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:955754873] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>sabrestorm posted... </cite> <quote>by way do you have any idea how many American troops have lost their lives fighting communism, thousands in Vietnam alone</quote>American troops dont fight communism, the CIA does that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MajesticFerret 07/05/21 12:52:05 AM #54:	Notti posted... No to communism. Yes to guaranteeing every citizen: food, water, health, shelter, and education. Literally every US citizen has access to all of the things listed, including healthcare, though it would be nice if healthcare didn't bankrupt you without insurance. Healthcare needs to be fixed and I think capitalism has wholistically failed it as a business. Everything else you said though, people have. It's on the homeless if they'd rather live on the streets and ask for drug money than go to the dozens of shelters that are nowhere near capacity where they provide food, water, and shelter and help these people get back on their feet. A lot of these people would rather just live free and not stay clean. --- Sanity is a one trick pony, all you get with it is rational thought, but with crazy the sky's the limit. <cite>MajesticFerret posted [p:955755321] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Notti posted... </cite> <quote>No to communism. Yes to guaranteeing every citizen: food, water, health, shelter, and education.</quote> Literally every US citizen has access to all of the things listed, including healthcare, though it would be nice if healthcare didn't bankrupt you without insurance. Healthcare needs to be fixed and I think capitalism has wholistically failed it as a business. Everything else you said though, people have. It's on the homeless if they'd rather live on the streets and ask for drug money than go to the dozens of shelters that are nowhere near capacity where they provide food, water, and shelter and help these people get back on their feet. A lot of these people would rather just live free and not stay clean. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 07/05/21 1:03:55 AM #55:	Man it must feel so carefree thinking so little about the world around you that you come to the conclusion that people stay homeless because they enjoy it --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:955755542] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Man it must feel so carefree thinking so little about the world around you that you come to the conclusion that people stay homeless because they enjoy it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 07/05/21 1:07:51 AM #56:	MajesticFerret posted... the dozens of shelters that are nowhere near capacity Wow, dozens! Most people would have said hundreds, I like that you're open about being full of shit. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:955755606] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>MajesticFerret posted...</cite><quote>the dozens of shelters that are nowhere near capacity</quote>Wow, dozens! Most people would have said hundreds, I like that you're open about being full of shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 07/05/21 1:13:42 AM #58:	sabrestorm posted... communism makes everyone a slave to a dictator What about capitalism? At this point, if youre not born into elitism then youre expected to be a serf. How is being forced to work for less than your monthly expense any better? <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:955755716] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>sabrestorm posted... </cite> <quote>communism makes everyone a slave to a dictator</quote>What about capitalism? At this point, if youre not born into elitism then youre expected to be a serf. How is being forced to work for less than your monthly expense any better? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/05/21 3:32:42 AM #59:	ssjevot posted... State capitalist dictatorships aren't socialist or communist despite what they may call themselves. Just like many places say they are democracies but don't have actual elections. If you want to debate a socialist economic system you can't use examples of capitalist countries that call themselves socialist for vestigial political reasons for why it would be bad. nice mealy-mouthed mumbo-jumbo, liberal. Too bad you didnt have the guts to address me directly, or I might respond. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955757972] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>State capitalist dictatorships aren't socialist or communist despite what they may call themselves. Just like many places say they are democracies but don't have actual elections. If you want to debate a socialist economic system you can't use examples of capitalist countries that call themselves socialist for vestigial political reasons for why it would be bad.</quote> nice mealy-mouthed mumbo-jumbo, liberal. Too bad you didnt have the guts to address me directly, or I might respond. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 07/05/21 3:40:20 AM #60:	You literally responded and I wasn't talking to you. You support state capitalist dictatorships. Everyone knows that. I am talking to the people in here who think that is socialism and are using it as a strawman. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:955758083] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>You literally responded and I wasn't talking to you. You support state capitalist dictatorships. Everyone knows that. I am talking to the people in here who think that is socialism and are using it as a strawman. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/05/21 3:42:47 AM #61:	I can shit distracting and unhelpful words out of my mouth as well I choose not to. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955758108] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>I can shit distracting and unhelpful words out of my mouth as well I choose not to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 07/05/21 3:43:50 AM #62:	Believe me, most people here agree shit is the primary thing coming out of your mouth. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:955758120] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Believe me, most people here agree shit is the primary thing coming out of your mouth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/05/21 3:49:47 AM #63:	Our current system is fine we just need some heavy handed regulations and harsh anti trust. We also need to simply ban corporate lobbying & make donations to politicians by entities worth over 10 million dollars to be illegal. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:955758199] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Our current system is fine we just need some heavy handed regulations and harsh anti trust. We also need to simply ban corporate lobbying & make donations to politicians by entities worth over 10 million dollars to be illegal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/05/21 3:50:36 AM #64:	glad we could have this productive conversation --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955758211] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>glad we could have this productive conversation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer2111 07/05/21 3:50:40 AM #65:	Prismsblade posted... As fucked up as it is you'd be surprised at the number of people who wouldnt mind a life of no real choices or responsibilitys so long as their basic necessities are met. I wouldnt, we call these people stupid people by comparison, theyre the proles in 1984...give them 1000 years and they still wont rebel because theyre dumb. Im not saying that hatefully, some people are just super gullible and incapable of realizing that the theyre being lied to, even with a wealth of proof in front of them. They just have to deny what theyre seeing so they feel comfy. Its easy when youre dumb, I assume. I wouldnt be surprised, its always been that way. Ask any society, by and large, who wasnt the target when their government was launching a genocidal Campaign. Ask the Germans, the Turks, China right now..and under mao...etc. Theyre brainwashed and afraid, and frankly those people were probably made of stronger stuff than the average idiot we are talking about right now..and thats terrible, --- JR looks like an Obese Potato <cite>Slayer2111 posted [p:955758214] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>As fucked up as it is you'd be surprised at the number of people who wouldnt mind a life of no real choices or responsibilitys so long as their basic necessities are met.</quote> I wouldnt, we call these people stupid people by comparison, theyre the proles in 1984...give them 1000 years and they still wont rebel because theyre dumb. Im not saying that hatefully, some people are just super gullible and incapable of realizing that the theyre being lied to, even with a wealth of proof in front of them. They just have to deny what theyre seeing so they feel comfy. Its easy when youre dumb, I assume. I wouldnt be surprised, its always been that way. Ask any society, by and large, who wasnt the target when their government was launching a genocidal Campaign. Ask the Germans, the Turks, China right now..and under mao...etc. Theyre brainwashed and afraid, and frankly those people were probably made of stronger stuff than the average idiot we are talking about right now..and thats terrible, </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BarbaricAvatar 07/05/21 4:30:55 AM #66:	Yes. So the rest of the world can enjoy watching it. --- Habitual Judge <cite>BarbaricAvatar posted [p:955758640] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Yes. So the rest of the world can enjoy watching it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 07/05/21 12:59:59 PM #67:	Slayer2111 posted... Productive would be that understanding that the almost universal testimony from everyone who has ever escaped a communist country ( its never leaving freely, btw, its always escaping, but Im sure thats just propaganda, the Cubans just dont realize how good they had it in Cuba, they floated here leisurely on car hoods due to their extreme right wing philosophies like freedom from communists) been pretty much dont ever allow that to happen here, its such a nightmare that Id risk the life of everyone I hold dear to take them from it im sure the oh so oppressed fat White kids of gamefaqs are so much more enlightened than everyone whos been on the receiving end of a communist government, obviously theyre just looking at it the wrong way. You guys sure arent in denial. This is a philosophy that when enacted on a country wide scale..historically, including right now...doesnt have the best record with not having gulags and concentration camps for those deemed to be anything but orthorix to communism. Where do the tens and tens of millions who say fuck communism go exactly, in this scenario of America becoming a communist nation? I know what happened every other time, soooo what happens here? tankies want gulags, they think theyll be the ones leading the glorious revolution lol --- It's obvious all religions are fundamentally true. <cite>pure_temper posted [p:955767254] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Slayer2111 posted... </cite> <quote>Productive would be that understanding that the almost universal testimony from everyone who has ever escaped a communist country ( its never leaving freely, btw, its always escaping, but Im sure thats just propaganda, the Cubans just dont realize how good they had it in Cuba, they floated here leisurely on car hoods due to their extreme right wing philosophies like freedom from communists) been pretty much dont ever allow that to happen here, its such a nightmare that Id risk the life of everyone I hold dear to take them from it im sure the oh so oppressed fat White kids of gamefaqs are so much more enlightened than everyone whos been on the receiving end of a communist government, obviously theyre just looking at it the wrong way. You guys sure arent in denial. This is a philosophy that when enacted on a country wide scale..historically, including right now...doesnt have the best record with not having gulags and concentration camps for those deemed to be anything but orthorix to communism. Where do the tens and tens of millions who say fuck communism go exactly, in this scenario of America becoming a communist nation? I know what happened every other time, soooo what happens here?</quote> tankies want gulags, they think theyll be the ones leading the glorious revolution lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/05/21 3:14:53 PM #68:	Slayer2111 posted... sure the oh so oppressed fat White kids of gamefaqs are so much more enlightened than everyone whos been on the receiving end of a communist government https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/03/24/75-of-russians-say-soviet-era-was-greatest-time-in-countrys-history-poll-a69735 https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/ --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955771165] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Slayer2111 posted... </cite> <quote>sure the oh so oppressed fat White kids of gamefaqs are so much more enlightened than everyone whos been on the receiving end of a communist government</quote> https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/03/24/75-of-russians-say-soviet-era-was-greatest-time-in-countrys-history-poll-a69735 https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 07/05/21 8:48:21 PM #69:	I see no one has problems with planned economies --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:955781014] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>I see no one has problems with planned economies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 07/05/21 11:29:21 PM #70:	Great, people are actually advocating for full blown Communism, so now the right can say democratic socialism is straight up socialism, which is Communism, which is Stalinism. Gee thanks <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:955785511] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Great, people are actually advocating for full blown Communism, so now the right can say democratic socialism is straight up socialism, which is Communism, which is Stalinism. Gee thanks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 07/05/21 11:33:10 PM #71:	Frizzurd posted... Great, people are actually advocating for full blown Communism, so now the right can say democratic socialism is straight up socialism, which is Communism, which is Stalinism. Gee thanks It's not like AverageJoel is a senator, just an anonymous nobody. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:955785613] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Frizzurd posted...</cite><quote>Great, people are actually advocating for full blown Communism, so now the right can say democratic socialism is straight up socialism, which is Communism, which is Stalinism. Gee thanks</quote>It's not like AverageJoel is a senator, just an anonymous nobody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/05/21 11:33:55 PM #72:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... You do realize that fascism isn't inherent to any one economic system and that capitalism can easily turn into fascism, right? fascism is basically capitalism cranked up to 11. of course capitalism can easily turn into fascism --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:955785633] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>You do realize that fascism isn't inherent to any one economic system and that capitalism can easily turn into fascism, right?</quote>fascism is basically capitalism cranked up to 11. of course capitalism can easily turn into fascism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/05/21 11:34:04 PM #73:	Well it would solve our obesity problem at least. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:955785637] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Well it would solve our obesity problem at least. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/05/21 11:36:00 PM #74:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... You do realize that fascism isn't inherent to any one economic system and that capitalism can easily turn into fascism, right? Fascism is just capitalism in decline. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955785689] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>You do realize that fascism isn't inherent to any one economic system and that capitalism can easily turn into fascism, right?</quote> Fascism is just capitalism in decline. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big_Nabendu 07/05/21 11:36:33 PM #75:	never Freedom baby --- The embrace of the Dark is gentle. Let it absorb your sorrows, forever. \[T]/ Owner of the 500 board and Leader of sunbro board GT Nabendu <cite>Big_Nabendu posted [p:955785699] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>never Freedom baby </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/05/21 11:40:29 PM #76:	Frizzurd posted... Great, people are actually advocating for full blown Communism, so now the right can say democratic socialism is straight up socialism, which is Communism, which is Stalinism. Gee thanks for those who want to follow along: "democratic socialism" isn't an actual distinct economic system. it's an ideology in which people somehow get it in their heads that socialism can be enacted through electoral politics within the capitalist system. (it cannot) "social democracy" is capitalism with a welfare state. this is what, for example, norway has. in theory there are some distinctions between "Democratic Socialism" and "Social Democracy", but in practice the people who self-identify as "democratic socialist" and people who self-identify and "social democrat" both generally just want social democracy. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:955785780] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Frizzurd posted... </cite> <quote>Great, people are actually advocating for full blown Communism, so now the right can say democratic socialism is straight up socialism, which is Communism, which is Stalinism. Gee thanks</quote>for those who want to follow along: "democratic socialism" isn't an actual distinct economic system. it's an ideology in which people somehow get it in their heads that socialism can be enacted through electoral politics within the capitalist system. (it cannot) "social democracy" is capitalism with a welfare state. this is what, for example, norway has. in theory there are some distinctions between "Democratic Socialism" and "Social Democracy", but in practice the people who self-identify as "democratic socialist" and people who self-identify and "social democrat" both generally just want social democracy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/05/21 11:43:48 PM #77:	basically just liberals who havent given up all pretense of humanity --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955785861] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>basically just liberals who havent given up all pretense of humanity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 07/05/21 11:49:33 PM #78:	averagejoel posted... "democratic socialism" isn't an actual distinct economic system. it's an ideology in which people somehow get it in their heads that socialism can be enacted through electoral politics within the capitalist system. (it cannot) Christian Socialism was the very first form of socialism. It's Jesus' teachings of modesty and charity into economic form which is completely compatible with capitalism and democracy. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:955785990] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite><quote>"democratic socialism" isn't an actual distinct economic system. it's an ideology in which people somehow get it in their heads that socialism can be enacted through electoral politics within the capitalist system. (it cannot)</quote>Christian Socialism was the very first form of socialism. It's Jesus' teachings of modesty and charity into economic form which is completely compatible with capitalism and democracy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/06/21 12:52:33 AM #79:	ButteryMales posted... Christian Socialism was the very first form of socialism. It's Jesus' teachings of modesty and charity into economic form which is completely compatible with capitalism and democracy. I mean if you want to go back that far you could say that jewish socialism is older. regardless, socialism is a fundamentally different economic system from capitalism. they are mutually exclusive. "democracy" as it's commonly understood is not an economic system, so there are elements of it that are compatible with pretty much any economic system. I do think the idea of democracy is inherently more compatible with socialism than with capitalism though --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:955787388] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>Christian Socialism was the very first form of socialism. It's Jesus' teachings of modesty and charity into economic form which is completely compatible with capitalism and democracy.</quote>I mean if you want to go back that far you could say that jewish socialism is older. regardless, socialism is a fundamentally different economic system from capitalism. they are mutually exclusive. "democracy" as it's commonly understood is not an economic system, so there are elements of it that are compatible with pretty much any economic system. I do think the idea of democracy is inherently more compatible with socialism than with capitalism though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 07/06/21 1:03:24 AM #80:	averagejoel posted... regardless, socialism is a fundamentally different economic system from capitalism. How is Jewish Socialism different from Capitalism? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:955787629] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite><quote>regardless, socialism is a fundamentally different economic system from capitalism.</quote>How is Jewish Socialism different from Capitalism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/06/21 1:04:19 AM #81:	China for example has people in territories they go into vote directly on what theyd like to happen. I believe it was Che but correct me if Im wrong that similarly basically just drove around asking communities what they needed, materially. Direct democracy is far better than the electoral bullshit they push in the so-called democracies that operate around the world, where you can vote for someone who promises you change but never delivers. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955787646] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>China for example has people in territories they go into vote directly on what theyd like to happen. I believe it was Che but correct me if Im wrong that similarly basically just drove around asking communities what they needed, materially. Direct democracy is far better than the electoral bullshit they push in the so-called democracies that operate around the world, where you can vote for someone who promises you change but never delivers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/06/21 1:33:20 AM #82:	Shablagoo posted... I believe it was Che but correct me if Im wrong that similarly basically just drove around asking communities what they needed, materially. something about this sounding like a good system in your head is so funny <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:955788181] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>I believe it was Che but correct me if Im wrong that similarly basically just drove around asking communities what they needed, materially.</quote> something about this sounding like a good system in your head is so funny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/06/21 2:33:51 AM #84:	It isnt a system, its solutions to problems. You are not interested in those. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955789209] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>It isnt a system, its solutions to problems. You are not interested in those. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/06/21 7:23:43 AM #85:	ButteryMales posted... How is Jewish Socialism different from Capitalism? if you want to call jesus' teachings "socialism" then it also makes sense to refer to the many jewish philosophers he drew his teachings from as such. but regardless, it's purely an ideology. it isn't an actual existing economic system like capitalism. capitalism didn't start to take shape until the early renaissance, ~1400 years after Jesus' death (if indeed he existed) --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:955792499] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>How is Jewish Socialism different from Capitalism?</quote>if you want to call jesus' teachings "socialism" then it also makes sense to refer to the many jewish philosophers he drew his teachings from as such. but regardless, it's purely an ideology. it isn't an actual existing economic system like capitalism. capitalism didn't start to take shape until the early renaissance, ~1400 years after Jesus' death (if indeed he existed) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 07/06/21 7:34:26 AM #86:	averagejoel posted... if you want to call jesus' teachings "socialism" then it also makes sense to refer to the many jewish philosophers he drew his teachings from as such. Socialism existed first as Christian Socialism. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Christian-Socialism averagejoel posted... but regardless, it's purely an ideology. it isn't an actual existing economic system like capitalism. capitalism didn't start to take shape until the early renaissance, ~1400 years after Jesus' death (if indeed he existed) Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's. -Jesus Christ on taxes and coins. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:955792632] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite><quote>if you want to call jesus' teachings "socialism" then it also makes sense to refer to the many jewish philosophers he drew his teachings from as such.</quote>Socialism existed first as Christian Socialism. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Christian-Socialism averagejoel posted...</cite><quote>but regardless, it's purely an ideology. it isn't an actual existing economic system like capitalism. capitalism didn't start to take shape until the early renaissance, ~1400 years after Jesus' death (if indeed he existed)</quote>Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's. -Jesus Christ on taxes and coins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 07/06/21 7:46:21 AM #87:	This topic is exactly the shitshow i expected "We should be socialist like <capitalist nordic country>" "We already have socialism, its called <social welfare program that has nothing to do with socialism>" "Capitalism is fundamentally <something that is not fundamental to capitalism>" "Socialism cant work because its contrary to 'human instinct'" what Capitalism with strong social safety nets has worked so outrageously well it is not worth discussing anything else. We'll advance by incrementally evolving regulations and expanding social safety nets as our collective efficiency improves. A communist revolution is one of the very few things i would consider joining the military to fight against (not that my aging fat ass would help much) --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:955792762] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>This topic is exactly the shitshow i expected "We should be socialist like <capitalist nordic country>" "We already have socialism, its called <social welfare program that has nothing to do with socialism>" "Capitalism is fundamentally <something that is not fundamental to capitalism>" "Socialism cant work because its contrary to 'human instinct'" what Capitalism with strong social safety nets has worked so outrageously well it is not worth discussing anything else. We'll advance by incrementally evolving regulations and expanding social safety nets as our collective efficiency improves. A communist revolution is one of the very few things i would consider joining the military to fight against (not that my aging fat ass would help much)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 07/06/21 7:47:21 AM #88:	Once we get a "socialism works well on paper..." quote i think itll be a bingo for tired economic tropes --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:955792773] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Once we get a "socialism works well on paper..." quote i think itll be a bingo for tired economic tropes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 07/06/21 7:57:24 AM #89:	Christian Socialism, movement of the mid-19th century that attempted to apply the social principles of Christianity to modern industrial life. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:955792900] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Christian Socialism, movement of the mid-19th century that attempted to apply the social principles of Christianity to modern industrial life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/06/21 8:34:49 AM #90:	g980 posted... Capitalism with strong social safety nets has worked so outrageously well it is not worth discussing anything else. it has worked well because the countries that enacted it were already wealthy. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:955793503] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>Capitalism with strong social safety nets has worked so outrageously well it is not worth discussing anything else.</quote>it has worked well because the countries that enacted it were already wealthy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 07/06/21 6:13:51 PM #91:	g980 posted... A communist revolution is one of the very few things i would consider joining the military to fight against (not that my aging fat ass would help much) This is one of the most cringeworthy things I've read in quite some time Being so indoctrinated that you'd die to keep capitalism in place based off of some misconception about what communism is is so sad it's not even funny anymore Though you certainly wouldn't be the first to give up their life because of the propaganda machine --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:955812027] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>A communist revolution is one of the very few things i would consider joining the military to fight against (not that my aging fat ass would help much)</quote>This is one of the most cringeworthy things I've read in quite some time Being so indoctrinated that you'd die to keep capitalism in place based off of some misconception about what communism is is so sad it's not even funny anymore Though you certainly wouldn't be the first to give up their life because of the propaganda machine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/06/21 6:38:45 PM #92:	Gwynevere posted... This is one of the most cringeworthy things I've read in quite some time Being so indoctrinated that you'd die to keep capitalism in place based off of some misconception about what communism is is so sad it's not even funny anymore this is the hardest I've ever seen anyone project <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:955812805] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite> <quote>This is one of the most cringeworthy things I've read in quite some time Being so indoctrinated that you'd die to keep capitalism in place based off of some misconception about what communism is is so sad it's not even funny anymore</quote> this is the hardest I've ever seen anyone project </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/06/21 6:54:53 PM #93:	Most of the world thinks we should. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955813314] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Most of the world thinks we should. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/06/21 6:56:58 PM #94:	most of the world is not in your deranged DSA meetings shab <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:955813382] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>most of the world is not in your deranged DSA meetings shab </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/06/21 7:06:05 PM #95:	Most of the world is not your oh so glorious imperial core, seph. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955813677] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Most of the world is not your oh so glorious imperial core, seph. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/06/21 7:16:24 PM #96:	"everyone's a communist like me" is the most online thing ever lmao go outside I beg you <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:955813971] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>"everyone's a communist like me" is the most online thing ever lmao go outside I beg you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/06/21 7:27:17 PM #97:	capitalism necessitates the existence of an exploited underclass. that underclass is often outsourced to another country --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:955814362] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>capitalism necessitates the existence of an exploited underclass. that underclass is often outsourced to another country </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/06/21 7:30:54 PM #98:	Its undeniable that the U.S. adopting a communist strategy would be a huge boon to the world. Its a crying shame we let the corrupt gaggle of war hawk imperialists at the top of our countrys oligarchy run the show. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955814491] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Its undeniable that the U.S. adopting a communist strategy would be a huge boon to the world. Its a crying shame we let the corrupt gaggle of war hawk imperialists at the top of our countrys oligarchy run the show. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 07/06/21 7:32:05 PM #99:	Why is it okay to be pro socialist/communist when they are responsible for the most deaths out of any other ideology? --- The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild is the worst Zelda Game by far. <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:955814537] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Why is it okay to be pro socialist/communist when they are responsible for the most deaths out of any other ideology? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/06/21 7:36:59 PM #100:	Shablagoo posted... Its undeniable that the U.S. adopting a communist strategy would be a huge boon to the world. Its a crying shame we let the corrupt gaggle of war hawk imperialists at the top of our countrys oligarchy run the show. it's so funny how living on the internet all day leads you to conclusions that are the polar opposite of reality <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:955814695] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Its undeniable that the U.S. adopting a communist strategy would be a huge boon to the world. Its a crying shame we let the corrupt gaggle of war hawk imperialists at the top of our countrys oligarchy run the show.</quote> it's so funny how living on the internet all day leads you to conclusions that are the polar opposite of reality </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 07/09/21 2:15:55 AM #101:	Notti posted... No to communism. Yes to guaranteeing every citizen: food, water, health, shelter, and education. Yes to necessities. Luxuries you earn through merit. Godnorgosh posted... This will never happen under capitalism, though. We will destroy our habitat before we do this. You might be right on capitalism. As people say about communism, greed ruins it. If too many capitalists werent scrooges they could SOLVE societal problems, AND enjoy luxuries. But too many greedy rich people dont know when to stop killing taxes and burning down society's structure. Too short sighted. Too greedy. Too selfish. Me me me is their mantra. (similar to cutting costs on a southern condo or electrical grid... then oopsie doopsie. Blood on Capitalism's hand (they will never admit it)) https://imgur.com/C78RK9P @Questionmarktarius Tax generosity is the line between right and left. --- https://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump https://RightWingWatch.org https://reddit.com/r/BreadTube https://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats <cite>Notti posted [p:955896323] in Do you thi... [t:79548403]...</cite> <quote>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>No to communism. Yes to guaranteeing every citizen: food, water, health, shelter, and education. Yes to necessities. Luxuries you earn through merit.</quote> <cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote> This will never happen under capitalism, though. We will destroy our habitat before we do this. </quote> You might be right on capitalism. As people say about communism, greed ruins it. If too many capitalists werent scrooges they could SOLVE societal problems, AND enjoy luxuries. But too many greedy rich people dont know when to stop killing taxes and burning down society's structure. Too short sighted. Too greedy. Too selfish. Me me me is their mantra. (similar to cutting costs on a southern condo or electrical grid... then oopsie doopsie. Blood on Capitalism's hand (they will never admit it)) https://imgur.com/C78RK9P @Questionmarktarius Tax generosity is the line between right and left.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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