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SerperiorThanU posted...

And same can be done with smartphones in school. Face it, you're out of touch with outdated views.

I disagree with you, so we'll agree to disagree.

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SerperiorThanU posted...

I mean, like I said, statistics show that smartphones aren't as much of a distraction as you claim either so you've only got your own anecdotal speculation that smartphones are a distraction in school (which you don't know since you never grew up with them) and that video games worked out for you (which of course, many older people who didn't have video games would call a distraction too).

Just basic research backs my PoV up.

France bans smartphones from schools
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/europe/france-smartphones-school-ban-intl/index.html

Research continually shows how distracting cell phones areso some schools want to ban them
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/research-shows-that-cell-phones-distract-students--so-france-banned-them-in-school--.html

Cellphone Distraction in the Classroom Can Lead to Lower Grades, Rutgers Study Finds
https://www.rutgers.edu/news/cellphone-distraction-classroom-can-lead-lower-grades-rutgers-study-finds

Cell Phone's In School=Triple D: Distracting, Detracting and Dumb-Down
https://techwellness.com/blogs/expertise/cellphone-distraction-in-school

Study: 97% of college students are distracted by phones during class
https://eab.com/insights/daily-briefing/academic-affairs/study-97-of-college-students-are-distracted-by-phones-during-class/

Cell Phones In Classrooms Are So Distracting, U.S. Teacher Shows In Viral Experiment
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/03/12/cell-phone-school-distracting_a_23690435/

And Video Games worked out for me because I self regulated and wasn't OCD about it when I had School/Education to worry about first.

There's good common sense & logic behind why I want Schools to ban "Smart Devices" from being in school.
You don't need it to learn, it doesn't really help compared to the down sides, and education will be better overall for it.

If you insist on using "Smart Devices", use it on your PERSONAL FREE TIME, at home, away from school.

Not during School Time. It's not that hard. When Tax Payers are footing the bill for education, you want to maximize the Education factor.

That means not wasting precious school time on distractions of any sort. REMOVE ALL DISTRACTIONS, as much as possible, so students can get back to learning and focus on core content.

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SerperiorThanU posted...

You think video games haven't had stuff like that for ages?

And that's why parents need to regulate their children on Video Game time and make sure that they focus on School Work.

If the Student can't self regulate, the parent will have to do their job and manage it.

And don't bring Video Games to Class/School.

It's a Parent/Home issue.

How much follow up did you expect during 2020, the year of COVID-19?

And we're still not done with COVID-19, we're still dealing with it on various levels.

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SerperiorThanU posted...

Smartphones can also be regulated in class. Again, the current generation with smartphones have been statistically more educated than previous generations.
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/05/14/on-the-cusp-of-adulthood-and-facing-an-uncertain-future-what-we-know-about-gen-z-so-far-2/
https://www.aecf.org/blog/generation-z-and-education

Being educated on how to use Smart Devices doesn't change the distraction factor.

And you can still be good at using Smart Devices while using them at home.

I'm asking you to work with me here. Nobody is taking away your Smart Device, just don't bring it to school.

If you want to use it, go home and use it.

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Thank Buddha that Kamen doesn't nor will ever have children.

VigorouslySwish posted...

Youll never stop young boys from being pervs, its as old as time

Im not saying its right, Im just saying nothing is going to stop it

You will never stop parents from encouraging young boys toward being pervs.

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SerperiorThanU posted...

Same can be said for video games at home. There are plenty of benefits for smartphones in school and more and more places are implementing them. We've gotten so far because we've gotten better at using technology. You're acting like the same kind of people who'd be against using monitors and laptops in school. You're just being out of touch.

I am against using monitors and LapTops in school.

A Learning Secret: Don't Take Notes with a Laptop
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-learning-secret-don-t-take-notes-with-a-laptop/

Students who used longhand remembered more and had a deeper understanding of the material

For More Effective Studying, Take Notes With Pen and Paper
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/taking-notes-by-hand-could-improve-memory-wt/

3 Scientific Links Between Handwriting Your Notes and Memory
https://redbooth.com/blog/handwriting-and-memory

Why You Remember Things Better When You Write Them Down
https://www.lifesavvy.com/19204/why-you-remember-things-better-when-you-write-them-down/

Writing By Hand Improves Your Memory, Experts Say
https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/04/21/writing-by-hand-benefits_n_9735384.html

Pen/Pencil & Paper.

That's all you need.

Leave Computers for Programming Class / Technology Class.

Outside of that, you don't need much for a effective education.

Especially given the volume of knowledge that is only getting larger as time progresses.

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SerperiorThanU posted...

Oh ok, you're just extremely out of touch. Almost every school is using laptops and monitors these days.
Laptops are just far more practical and engaging.

You can use those at home, it's a distraction in the class room IMO.

Hell, you right now are using the internet to share your studies. That itself shows the practical use and benefits smartdevices have.

Yes, on my Personal Free Time.

It honestly sounds like you're just spiteful the newer generations have it better than you.

I'm not spiteful, I'm saddened that they didn't get to experience life Pre-Digital Technology being common.

A simpler life, one with less distractions was wonderful. You can easily focus on the task at hand.

You have no idea how simple life was without all the noise, distractions, etc from Smart Devices.

Once you let that modern Smart Devices in, you don't know what you're missing by not having them.

There are alot of people who have tried to go Cold Turky on Dumb phone and have realized all the things they were missing by being constantly distracted and connected to Smart Devices.

There are alot of benefits too.

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what school is this Vegy High?

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It's ironic because I know Christian families that won't allow women to wear shorts or pants. Must be dresses or skirts. There's still companies that ban women from wearing pants in their dress codes.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Some of the girls at my school would wear skirts so short that just sitting down would give you a view of everything. Good times.

Lol nice

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SerperiorThanU posted...

Schools that give laptops have shown to have better grades and scores. Laptops are just much more engaging and able to educate more people.

LapTops are engaging alright, but for the wrong reasons.
Other studies have shown that the old fashion approach is more beneficial.
You can still use the LapTop at home when the teacher isn't around.

Best of both worlds.

SerperiorThanU posted...

Are you being dense on purpose?

No

The point was that the internet is a massive learning resource and is great for study and teaching.

And it's also easy to get distracted and the point is to ingest & memorize the knowledge that the teachers are feeding you in class. If you just want to learn from the internet, there are other times you can do that, times that don't waste the teachers precious time with the student.

Even businesses use the internet for work.

Work is a completely different environment than school.

This is by no means a personal free time thing.

But it is to some degree, since School time is short, precious, and generally funded by the tax payer.

If I just wanted to have a Digital Program, Screen, or Remote learning to educate the child; why even bother with a physical school. Why even bother with going into class every day. There are alot of benefits to the old fashioned way of doing things.

SerperiorThanU posted...

And in those days people were less educated. What you don't seem to realize is that not everyone can work with pen and paper.

Yet the majority of society managed to do just fine with it.


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You've never learned about the different types of learners?

I have, but those are outliers; the vast majority of students manage to learn just fine using the old fashioned methods.

Smartdevices are much more accessible and able to accommodate people who aren't able to learn with traditional old-fashioned teaching methods.

And there are entire classes, schools, and courses for those who can't learn via the traditional methods.
Specialized schools for them.

This is reflected by how more people are more educated and worldly than ever before.

You mean people bother to learn more now then ever.

Your luddite preach rings hollow when you've been logging on this video game site for 20 years.

I don't use GameFAQs for education, it's a place for socialization and entertainment on my free time.

"Rules for thee and not for me".

"Rules for we, me included".
I went through similar things and it's proven effective. Plenty of my peers went through similar things as well. We all turned out fine.

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

Time tested, and proven.

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DravenRainrix posted...

How about teaching the boys not to upskirt in the first place instead of policing the girls clothing.

But then they can't control women

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totalnerdken posted...

Any solution where you target the group that doesn't cause the offense, is a bad solution.

Targeting the girls because some boys are upskirting them, is a bad solution. You punish the boys that are committing the offense, not the girls, who are victims.

that's a dumb take, obviously, those two "solutions" are in no way mutually exclusive

KamenRiderBlade posted...

[evil uniform bullshit]

This is literally the worst post I've ever read in my entire fucking life. Congrats. Your ideas are just that fucking terrible.

Here's an idea, let's do the exact opposite of what you suggested and let kids be kids and wear whatever the fuck they want

Darklit_Minuet posted...

This is literally the worst post I've ever read in my entire fucking life. Congrats. Your ideas are just that fucking terrible.

Here's an idea, let's do the exact opposite of what you suggested and let kids be kids and wear whatever the fuck they want

Ah yes, the current system, where everybody has to dress differently and it becomes a cluster fuck of distraction.

Talk about being close minded and not willing to try ways that have worked well in other countries.

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SerperiorThanU posted...

Once again, you're being dense. I was saying they're engaging for study and learning.
Using pen and paper can be more beneficial to some people but it doesn't work for everyone. This is why having the option for both is the best route. You just choosing what worked best for you is just close-minded and ignorant.

I can say the same for you, you're so ingrained in having a Smart Device at your side 24/7/365 that the thought of not having it on you for significant chunks of your life is becoming OCD. It becomes your safety blanket and you use anything to justify having it. Society managed to work before the mass advent of Smart Devices in school, yet you insist on having it and letting it distract students just because a few students find benefit to it.

SerperiorThanU posted...

And video games at home can get you addicted and fail in education. You already answered this silly speculation yourself. Schools can just regulate what students do on the internet. Also, you're aware that teachers are using the internet and smart devices to teach right? There isn't time wasted because the teachers themselves are using the internet and devices to teach.

Schools can't regulate private CellPhone Internet connections, only their local WiFi setup at school. Short of setting up a CellPhone jamming tower, which is illegal BTW; you can't control what the students do on their phone.

Teachers are fine, they can use Smart Devices to teach and to do whatever they need to do. They're adults, not students, not children who lack self control.

The Teachers will generally be teaching or using their Smart Devices to teach.

This is all about Students, not about the teachers.

SerperiorThanU posted...

That doesn't change anything.

Actually it changes everything.

School is about absorbing knowledge from the teacher to learn, memorize, and understand said knowledge.

Work, you gotta figure out stuff, and the internet is a resource for you to do that.

The goals are very different.

You don't go to school, just to ignore the teacher and to focus on your Smart Device all day in class.

That's fundamentally backwards and defeats the purpose of having class IRL.

SerperiorThanU posted...

Are you really this ignorant? Have you not interacted with children or people in education for the last 15 years? At this point I think you might just be trolling. There is still physical presence. The teachers can still aid students personally and immediately. The teacher can make sure you're not cheating on tests. Plus one of the main factors of school is actually meant for you to socialize with your peers, which ironically, might be something you didn't take in.

The point is that Teachers will have a easier job maintaining students attention if they don't have an entire class room of kids having their Smart Devices distracting them with Social Media, Internet, Text Messages, etc.

The teachers can have a easier time aiding specific students if they don't have to waste more of their precious teaching time monitoring other kids wasting time on Smart Devices.

It's "harder" to cheat if you don't have Smart Devices around for every student, that's an easy vector for kids to transmit answers to each other.

Yes, school is meant to socialize, IRL. You don't need Smart Devices for that. Something I did all the time back in the day when I was in school.

SerperiorThanU posted...

Oh yeah, society also functioned when slavery was legal. You know someone is stuck in their backwards ways when they make this statement.

WTF? How did School Learning link with Slavery? Are you bonkers?
Talk about irrelevant links.

SerperiorThanU posted...

Why waste money on specialized schools when we can just incorporate them into regular schools? Especially since even regular students have been doing better with smart devices. It being distracting for people who don't use them well doesn't change that.

It's been shown that Smart Devices distract more than they help, I linked plenty of evidence to support my position.


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Which has more to do with sharing knowledge amongst adults.
Then we the adults teach children.
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How can a distracted generation learn anything?
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190220-how-can-a-distracted-generation-learn-anything
NOTE: I grabbed the cached version of the page.

If smartphones are harming our ability to focus, how should teachers change their methods to give children the skills they need?
Todays students have a problem, and its not the one written on the board. Theyre so accustomed to constant stimuli from smartphone apps and streaming platforms that they cant concentrate in class.
Generations Z (ages 10-24) and Alpha (ages 0-9) were born into a world where algorithms keep them clicking, scrolling and swiping at a frenetic pace.

Now teachers have a problem too: how do you adapt the traditional curriculum to accommodate students raised by technology and is there a price for compromising on traditional education?

Attention, please
Early brain development is a complex topic, but over the last few years researchers around the world have raised concerns about the impact of smartphones and media multi-tasking on concentration.
There is a growing body of evidence that is, yes, not fully validated and can be argued against but pretty clear evidence that technology, social media, immediate access to the internet and smartphones are hurting kids ability to focus, says Dr Jim Taylor, author of Raising Generation Tech. We are fundamentally changing the way kids think and the way their brains develop.

Attention in the classroom isnt just a value in itself, but works as the gateway to higher forms of learning (Credit: Getty Images)

Teachers have noticed too. Its a problem! The average teen has the attention span of about 28 seconds to begin with, says Laura Schad, who teaches seventh and eighth graders (ages 12-14) in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She says that while smartphones have clearly affected her students developing brains, training on how to tackle the issue is lacking: how education should evolve for digital-native students was not covered when she qualified in 2015.

Techs effects are clearest in the most traditional school task, reading, especially as kids migrate from text-based digital media to image-heavy apps like Instagram and Snapchat.
Students, now, seem to find it particularly exhausting to read complex or long text without regular breaks. In the past, students seemed to be accustomed to attending to a text for a longer period of time, says Erica Swift, sixth-grade teacher at Herman Leimbach Elementary in Sacramento, California, not far from Silicon Valley. You see their lack of stamina in them asking for breaks, talking to others instead of working, and even some just giving up on longer reading tasks.
Transposing the text to a device doesnt help, indicating the problem runs deeper than preferences for screens over print.

Taylor explains that attention isnt just a value in itself, but functions as the gateway to higher forms of learning especially memory which in turn leads to deeper comprehension. Without the ability to pay attention to something, kids are not going to be able to process [information]. Theyre not going to be able to consolidate it into memory, which means theyre not going to be able to interpret, analyse, synthesise, critique and come to some decision about the information, he says.
The classroom of the future

When students cant seem to pay attention to long lectures, many teachers simply hack lessons into smaller chunks. Gail Desler, the tech integration specialist for Elk Grove school district, where Swifts school is located, says: A common thread among teachers is that short is good.
Desler also points to teachers who begin classes with mindfulness exercises or deploy meditation when students need to concentrate. One high school teacher in Salinas, California, uses the Calm app to help students meditate, but a 2013 study indicated any sort of tech breaks could counteract anxious urges to multitask.

Generations Z and Alpha have never experienced a world without internet (Credit: Getty Images)

Some teachers also choose to meet kids where they are on platforms like YouTube and Instagram. Asha Choksi, vice-president of global research and insights at educational publisher Pearson, gives the example of a teacher who films himself performing a science experiment, posts it to YouTube and then uses the video in class to illustrate material in the textbook, which can seem boring to students. Similarly, Schad keeps students on task through Instagram, reminding them about homework and upcoming field trips.

These platforms especially extend attention when they reflect students interests. Desler praises teachers who do things like tie the history of Nazi propaganda to cyberbullying. Its about infusing relevant information into mandated curriculum in ways the students see themselves, she says. If you connect it to things happening here and now, then it enters their world and engages them.
Meanwhile, specialised learning platforms like Flipgrid, which allows students to share videos of themselves giving presentations, help teachers engage students in their native media. A 2018 study from Pearson found that Gen Z students eschewed physical books, preferring video as a source of information second only to teachers. By meeting kids where they already engage and create, teachers can better capture attention.

Some school districts have standardised digital migration to platforms like Google Classroom, which allows students and parents to monitor grades and upcoming assignments, tracking performance to better understand where students are falling behind.

Technology can even help mend the damage it does to reading skills. Schad says at her school in Philadelphia, teachers use computers to target struggling students. The schools preferred reading platform, Lexia, uses gamification to motivate participation. The programme also automatically splits up students based on performance, moving successful students to more advanced tasks offline while keeping struggling students engaged with digital exercises until they fully internalise the lesson. This targeted approach helps bridge the gap between students impacted to varying degrees by technology.

The US is a global leader in education technology, with edtech companies raising $1.45bn (1.1bn) in 2018. But firms like Flipgrid and Lexia will increasingly face competition from abroad. The edtech industry in East Asia is booming, especially as US platforms like Knewton expand overseas, tapping into growing global interest in adapting classrooms to digital native students.

Turning lessons into games can help lift below-average students performance (Credit: Getty Images)

Blended learning
Still, while some educators are embracing technology in the classroom, multiple studies have shown more traditional classrooms can be more successful. A 2015 study by the London School of Economics showed GCSE test scores improved when schools in Birmingham, London, Leicester and Manchester banned phones from class. Neuroscience professor William Klemm, author of The Learning Skills Cycle, points to a 2014 study that found taking notes in longhand helped students retain information better than using a laptop.

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Klemm also points out the dangers of chopping up lessons into small chunks, suggesting switching between small lessons too quickly could rob students of valuable comprehension. He says students need time to engage with a topic once the teacher introduces it before moving on.

Even many tech-forward educators find value in traditional methods and suggest a blended learning approach. I've seen a lot of discussion among academics in recent years about whether the lecture format is a relic and should go the way of the dinosaurs, says Katie Davis, associate professor in the University of Washington Information School. I guess it comes down to whether you believe there are valuable skills involved in following a complex argument that is presented linearly in real-time.

While Davis admits new media could provide valuable skills, she still believes lectures have their place.

Educators across the tech spectrum agree the teachers authority remains sacrosanct. Elizabeth Hoover, chief technology officer of public schools in Alexandria City, Virginia, works to enhance education in her district through technology, but she says she would never replace direct instruction from teachers.

The face-to-face interaction with the teacher is still the most important component in the classroom Elizabeth Hoover

The face-to-face interaction with the teacher is still the most important component in the classroom, she says, favouring technology only when it enhances a lesson in ways impossible offline.

Schad also points out that many teachers rely on technology only because they dont have sufficient resources offline. Programmes like Lexia wouldnt be necessary if schools provided more funding for aides, who could free up teachers to concentrate on struggling students.

Some teachers film their lessons to post on YouTube, engaging students on platforms they already use (Credit: Getty Images)

Some teachers film their lessons to post on YouTube, engaging students on platforms they already use (Credit: Getty Images)

Philadelphia teacher Sophia Date, who teaches 12th grade social studies, also questions the impulse to fund tech over more teachers. There is a huge push for technology in the classroom, but at times I think that it is done in the place of larger, more necessary reforms. Grant organisations are happy to give money for a set of tablets or laptops, but not willing to provide a salary for a teacher for a year, she says.

Date clarifies that equitable access to technology remains crucial to help close the gap for low-income students, but it cannot replace systemic change.

Learn to think

While technology undermines some aspects of education, it has also empowered students in unforeseen ways. There is this view that young people are a bit apathetic, a little bit lazy, distracted by technology, says Choksi of Pearson. We actually really underestimate the role technology is playing in childrens education right now and the power it gives them over the way they learn.

We actually really underestimate the role technology is playing in childrens education right now and the power it gives them over the way they learn Asha Choksi

For instance, students impatient for educators to address questions are increasingly willing to seek answers for themselves. They might be in algebra and go to YouTube to figure out how to solve a problem before going to a teacher or consulting a textbook, Choksi says.

Thats what you ultimately want with kids, Swift adds. You want them asking new questions, seeking new answers.

Taylor points out that as information becomes ubiquitous, success is no longer about knowing the most. Instead, its the ability to think critically and creatively, ironically the very skills that digital media undermines by lowering attention spans.

If you think of the Zuckerbergs and the Gates and the Sandbergs and all these people who became successful in the tech world, he says, it wasnt because they could code; it was because they could think.

Digital natives will continue to voraciously adopt new media. Teachers have no choice but to evolve, not only to ensure students can access and take advantage of new technologies, but to fundamentally educate students to succeed in a world constantly trying to distract them.

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DravenRainrix posted...

How about teaching the boys not to upskirt in the first place instead of policing the girls clothing.

I guarantee you they already know it's wrong. Why is this even a post?
The school should obviously be punishing them but its unlikely to ever stop it fully.
There's nothing wrong with the school telling girls to take precautions, so long as the school is still punishing students that do it.
I didn't read the article so if they are actually victim blaming then that's disgusting

The only problem I have with teaching CRT is that it is a distraction. I believe that sex and race prevent people from working together to get higher wages, better leaders and better laws. CRT is telling us that we can trust our current situation to teach us what we need to know.

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What about girls that wear nothing under and open their legs a little bit when their teacher looks their way

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When i was in school none of us took upskirt pics but it was hard not looking being a young horny male

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It seems like they could have just told these sluts to wear panties.

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SerperiorThanU posted...

Not at all. My argument is that it's a good thing that schools give the option to learn for both. You're the one that wants to ban things you're not familiar with because you're outdated and afraid of change although the more likely answer is that you're just spiteful.

Again, BS personal assumptions about me through your biased mind.

I'm banning things from students for the benefits of the majority of students.

France is wise enough to go that route, now it's time for other countries to follow suit.

Are you aware that even Asian schools you prop up use laptops and monitors nowadays?

Yeah, doesn't mean it's a good idea to copy everything Western schools do by allowing Students to bring in Smart Devices, LapTops, etc.

Or just punish them if they're found going onto other sites. They can also require students to turn off their cell phone data if they want to go one step further. And the whole point of teachers using smart devices is that teachers can give out practices and assignments using laptop programs.

And how much wasted Class time do you think is going to occur by having the teacher constantly monitor every student in every class to make sure that they're paying attention and not goofing off?

Again, you missed the forest from the trees.
The Smart Device ban DOESN'T affect the teacher, ONLY the students.
The teachers can continue distributing practices & assignments via LapTop programs.
Students can go home and do their HW once they pull the practices / assignments from their LapTops @ HOME.

That's literally what you can do for school as well. And again, it's teachers who are using Smart Devices to teach along with students.

If the teacher must absolutely show things on a Smart Device instead of a TV, they can distribute it at the start of the class and take it back by the end of the period.

There's absolutely no need for the Students to bring their personal Smart Devices.
The school can hard lock down whatever device they personally own and distribute for educational purposes.

No students need to bring their own Smart Devices and waste time on the internet, chatting on Social Media, Playing games, etc.

It's not hard at all to do that especially with in-class participation. And of course not every activity will use laptops. For someone who brought up balance with video games you seem unable to comprehend that with anything else.

And you don't seem to comprehend the big picture and ignore all the problems it's causing.
My solution is far more balanced since students can use their smart devices at home, on their personal time. School should be reserved for Teacher Student Interaction.

The "things still worked even with backwards and outdated mindsets back in the day" is a completely moronic point.

The only moronic point was you trying to link my methods of fixing the problems with modern education and slavery. Talk about non-sequitor and no relation in any way/shape/form other than to act like a shock jock with a Gotcha moment.

That's without regulation. Just like video games without regulation can lead to addiction. I linked equal amounts of evidence that classes that use them have higher scores and more students actively reaching out/participating.

And I've linked even more evidence that shows it's causing serious issues and long term problems with students who's minds are developing.


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Um, no, it's more accessible and kids are more willing to learn with technology. This is common sense. How about we just go back to using chalk and blackboard instead of paper and pencil? Or go back to using rocks and sticks? Yeah, that's what I thought.

And I've shown that traditional teaching methods work just as well on the large scale.
That students benefit more from going back to old school methods of learning like taking notes on paper with Pen/Pencil instead of typing it out.

But your hyperbolic comment about BlackBoards & Rocks & Sticks shows how little you understand about the larger issues at hand since you so easily discount the real severe issues.

No, the point is that YOU'VE spent a lot of your time on gamefaqs and electronics since 2000 back when the internet wasn't even commonplace when you've been preaching about going back to a simpler time without noises and distractions.

Yeah, it's called personal experience in a world without digital distractions in school. I've lived it, I saw the benefits it brings to students & society as a whole.

You clearly spend a lot of time on the internet, and on a video game FAQ forum of all things.

It's called discipline and doing things on your free time. You should learn to have some. It could benefit you.

At least you can make connections on social media.

And Social Media is one of the largest distractors for modern students today, during the classroom.

Your words ring hollow when you obviously don't follow them yourself.

I did follow them, I was very dilligent with my studies when I was still in school.
You can't be in Honors Courses & AP with a final Cumulative GPA of 4.3x without working your ass off for it.

Not at all. Pretty much every properly funded school uses laptops these days. Even Asian schools do.

And Students can leave those LapTops at HOME, same with their Smart Devices.
Focus on the teacher in the class room without them.

Pay Attention to the subject matter being taught at hand by your teacher, instead of wasting time on Social Media/Internet while in their class room.

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I did, I read every word of it.
I even highlighted alot of the critical points.

You obviously seem to have blinders on since you only read what you liked and ignored all the other issues that teachers are bringing up.

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This article listed the many benefits of technology in school and also listed many flaws that needs to be addressed but overall considers it a good and necessary thing.

No, you failed to comprehend the article properly.
You obviously skimmed it, otherwise you wouldn't have come to that conclusion.

The article showed ALOT of the issues that are caused by Students bringing LapTops / Smart Devices into the classroom, especially at a young age.

Any benefits are largely niche, or more for the teacher and the logistics that they have to deal with.
Some benefits are for certain groups of students who need special attention, but the vast majority of the article was focused on the problems that Smart Devices are bringing to the students.

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Tell the TC of this topic to stop:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79521386

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This topic went places.

As an educator I would say that like anything, tech is a tool. Problem is that the tech is also used to totally zone out in class and not pay attention.

Finding innovative ways to use tech in the classroom is ideal. To argue that cell phones and laptops should be phased out is impractical as it will never happen. You would rather have a student in class taking things in now and then as opposed to kicking them out of class for being on their phone. Then they learn nothing.

Technology will not replace a teacher. We also need to pivot from traditional teaching methods to focus on critical thinking. Students have SO MUCH access to information at all times and we do a poor job of teaching them how to sus out the BS from the good info.

We need to do it at age 8, not 16.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

As an educator I would say that like anything, tech is a tool.

I concur

Problem is that the tech is also used to totally zone out in class and not pay attention.

Which is a fundamental problem when in the hands of students who lack self control / discipline and will easily find plenty of moments during the teachers class time to distract themselves from paying attention to whatever the teacher is teaching at that moment in time.

Finding innovative ways to use tech in the classroom is ideal.

That's on the teacher and the faculty to do.

To argue that cell phones and laptops should be phased out is impractical as it will never happen.

You can still have "Dumb Phones" for students. Their Smart Phones can be left at home.
LapTops can be owned by the school and hard locked down so that it can't be used for anything other than educational purposes at the discretion of the teacher.

Teachers can distribute it as needed at the start of the class and take it back by the end if need be.

The students don't need to bring their own Smart Devices or LapTop that they have personally configured and can easily distract themselves with by doing other things like (Surfing the Internet, Wasting time on Social Media, Texting with Friends) during class time.

You would rather have a student in class taking things in now and then as opposed to kicking them out of class for being on their phone. Then they learn nothing.

Nobody said anything about kicking students out.

Taking away their Smart Devices would be a nice start and have the Parents/Guardians of the student(s) come back at the end of the school day to retrieve it would be a nice default rule.

Technology will not replace a teacher.

Of course, the teacher is critical.

We also need to pivot from traditional teaching methods to focus on critical thinking.

No, you need to utilitize Traditional Teaching methods along with teaching critical thinking as well.
Both are equally important and need to be taught.

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Students have SO MUCH access to information at all times and we do a poor job of teaching them how to sus out the BS from the good info.

And Students can access said information at home; not on the teachers time, not in the teachers class room when they are teaching.

We need to do it at age 8, not 16.

Agreed, we need to start young and make sure that kids come to school, ready to focus on learning without distractions from modern tech.

You can do that by having a hard policy of leaving Smart Devices, LapTops, etc @ HOME!

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