Poll of the Day > I don't understand why your ID can't be expired to buy alcohol

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Sahuagin 06/05/21 9:23:24 PM #101:	LinkPizza posted... Rev was talking about how his doesnt expire until 2049. yea but it still expires. the suggested rule would mean that his wouldn't expire, even in 2049. or even in 2149 for that matter. the expiry duration is just a slider; an answer to the question "how often should IDs be updated", which could be argued all kinds of ways. but not having an expiry at all is a fair bit different. really I guess, the reason that an ID that is expired is rejected has less to do with the single instance concrete example of one guy buying something and the probability that he isn't of the correct age. it's more about: IDs need to expire, and ID expiries need to be enforced or they may as well never expire. saying that IDs should _never_ expire is pretty close to saying that we shouldn't have IDs in the first place, or that there shouldn't be an age limit for purchasing certain things in the first place. (and you guys understand the difference between looking at this from the large VS small scale, right? the law is not about what happens in a single instance. it's about implementing a large-scale system, and the implications of what will tend to happen at large-scales.) (yeah, actually, this kind of thing can come up in other places as well. laws are written to adjust the whole system, but the enforcement of a single violation of a law occurs at the smallest possible scale of one person doing one thing. comparing the law itself to that single violation can seem silly sometimes, but that's not necessarily why the law is there; it's about the broader system.) --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:954688938] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Rev was talking about how his doesnt expire until 2049.</quote>yea but it still expires. the suggested rule would mean that his wouldn't expire, even in 2049. or even in 2149 for that matter. the expiry duration is just a slider; an answer to the question "how often should IDs be updated", which could be argued all kinds of ways. but not having an expiry at all is a fair bit different. really I guess, the reason that an ID that is expired is rejected has less to do with the single instance concrete example of one guy buying something and the probability that he isn't of the correct age. it's more about: IDs need to expire, and ID expiries need to be enforced or they may as well never expire. saying that IDs should _never_ expire is pretty close to saying that we shouldn't have IDs in the first place, or that there shouldn't be an age limit for purchasing certain things in the first place. (and you guys understand the difference between looking at this from the large VS small scale, right? the law is not about what happens in a single instance. it's about implementing a large-scale system, and the implications of what will tend to happen at large-scales.) (yeah, actually, this kind of thing can come up in other places as well. laws are written to adjust the whole system, but the enforcement of a single violation of a law occurs at the smallest possible scale of one person doing one thing. comparing the law itself to that single violation can seem silly sometimes, but that's not necessarily why the law is there; it's about the broader system.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 06/05/21 9:28:49 PM #102:	Sahuagin posted... yea but it still expires. the suggested rule would mean that his wouldn't expire, even in 2049. or even in 2149 for that matter. the expiry duration is just a slider; an answer to the question "how often should IDs be updated", which could be argued all kinds of ways. but not having an expiry at all is a fair bit different. really I guess, the reason that an ID that is expired is rejected has less to do with the single instance concrete example of one guy buying something and the probability that he isn't of the correct age. it's more about: IDs need to expire, and ID expiries need to be enforced or they may as well never expire. saying that IDs should _never_ expire is pretty close to saying that we shouldn't have IDs in the first place, or that there shouldn't be an age limit for purchasing certain things in the first place. (and you guys understand the difference between looking at this from the large VS small scale, right? the law is not about what happens in a single instance. it's about implementing a large-scale system, and the implications of what will tend to happen at large-scales.) Its true that they do expire. But theres no reason they should have to... And thats very different from having Nemo IDs at all... And tbh, Im not even really sure the age limit matters. A lot of underage people can find many ways to get stuff they shouldnt have, anyway... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:954689061] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote>yea but it still expires. the suggested rule would mean that his wouldn't expire, even in 2049. or even in 2149 for that matter. the expiry duration is just a slider; an answer to the question "how often should IDs be updated", which could be argued all kinds of ways. but not having an expiry at all is a fair bit different. really I guess, the reason that an ID that is expired is rejected has less to do with the single instance concrete example of one guy buying something and the probability that he isn't of the correct age. it's more about: IDs need to expire, and ID expiries need to be enforced or they may as well never expire. saying that IDs should _never_ expire is pretty close to saying that we shouldn't have IDs in the first place, or that there shouldn't be an age limit for purchasing certain things in the first place. (and you guys understand the difference between looking at this from the large VS small scale, right? the law is not about what happens in a single instance. it's about implementing a large-scale system, and the implications of what will tend to happen at large-scales.)</quote> Its true that they do expire. But theres no reason they should have to... And thats very different from having Nemo IDs at all... And tbh, Im not even really sure the age limit matters. A lot of underage people can find many ways to get stuff they shouldnt have, anyway...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/05/21 10:18:22 PM #103:	OhhhJa posted... It's funny how condescending you are about alcohol all the time lol. There's nothing wrong with drinking a couple beers every now and then. Not everyone has a drinking problem While not everybody who drinks necessarily has what's widely considering a "drinking problem," the act of drinking itself constitutes a problem. It's something that people are much better without. And I would rather see people move from booze because the widespread consumption of alcohol helps to fuel alcohol abuse through the normalization and glorification of alcohol consumption. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954690404] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>It's funny how condescending you are about alcohol all the time lol. There's nothing wrong with drinking a couple beers every now and then. Not everyone has a drinking problem</quote> While not everybody who drinks necessarily has what's widely considering a "drinking problem," the act of drinking itself constitutes a problem. It's something that people are much better without. And I would rather see people move from booze because the widespread consumption of alcohol helps to fuel alcohol abuse through the normalization and glorification of alcohol consumption. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/05/21 10:23:51 PM #104:	Sahuagin posted... so ids never expire under any circumstances, and most people will have id with pictures of them when they were 18 if not younger, even into their 40s and 50s and beyond, and regardless of weight gain, medical conditions, etc? basically, the vast majority of photo ids will be decades out of date all of the time. under some circumstances they should, but otherwise, no its just an ID after all --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954690553] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Sahuagin posted... </cite> <quote>so ids never expire under any circumstances, and most people will have id with pictures of them when they were 18 if not younger, even into their 40s and 50s and beyond, and regardless of weight gain, medical conditions, etc? basically, the vast majority of photo ids will be decades out of date all of the time.</quote> under some circumstances they should, but otherwise, no its just an ID after all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/05/21 11:02:32 PM #105:	Apparently, an expired license means you have lost all ability to drive. Also, your supposed to update your address information when you move, not when it expires. It must also make your DOB null until you pay more money. --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954691539] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Apparently, an expired license means you have lost all ability to drive. Also, your supposed to update your address information when you move, not when it expires. It must also make your DOB null until you pay more money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 06/05/21 11:20:41 PM #106:	DirtBasedSoap posted... bitch ass busybody LOSERS its seriously so annoying. I had some lady give me shit at a concert one time over it after I already bought a drink and I laughed in her face. my id says Im 21, who the fuck looks at that other shit? Maybe cause they often have covert buyers and its the law and the cashier can be fined fired and jailed for breaking it. The responsibility is on the buyer to have a valid id not the cashier to take the risk. <cite>hungrymike posted [p:954692143] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>bitch ass busybody LOSERS its seriously so annoying. I had some lady give me shit at a concert one time over it after I already bought a drink and I laughed in her face. my id says Im 21, who the fuck looks at that other shit?</quote>Maybe cause they often have covert buyers and its the law and the cashier can be fined fired and jailed for breaking it. The responsibility is on the buyer to have a valid id not the cashier to take the risk. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/05/21 11:39:31 PM #107:	Zeus posted... While not everybody who drinks necessarily has what's widely considering a "drinking problem," the act of drinking itself constitutes a problem. It's something that people are much better without. And I would rather see people move from booze because the widespread consumption of alcohol helps to fuel alcohol abuse through the normalization and glorification of alcohol consumption. That probably could be said about a bunch of shit you do every day of your life. Loosen up. Enjoy life a little bit. And before you say you don't need to drink to have fun. Neither do I. But it's still fun to do sometimes <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954692637] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>While not everybody who drinks necessarily has what's widely considering a "drinking problem," the act of drinking itself constitutes a problem. It's something that people are much better without. And I would rather see people move from booze because the widespread consumption of alcohol helps to fuel alcohol abuse through the normalization and glorification of alcohol consumption.</quote>That probably could be said about a bunch of shit you do every day of your life. Loosen up. Enjoy life a little bit. And before you say you don't need to drink to have fun. Neither do I. But it's still fun to do sometimes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/05/21 11:42:20 PM #108:	Bottom line for this topic. No person involved in the sale of alcohol enforces these kind of stupid laws because they want to. It's because they don't want to lose their job or worse. It's not fun to tell someone you can't serve them knowing that they're about to go full blown karen over it. Keeping a valid ID isn't much to ask of someone. Mine doesn't expire for another 8 years. Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954692712] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Bottom line for this topic. No person involved in the sale of alcohol enforces these kind of stupid laws because they want to. It's because they don't want to lose their job or worse. It's not fun to tell someone you can't serve them knowing that they're about to go full blown karen over it. Keeping a valid ID isn't much to ask of someone. Mine doesn't expire for another 8 years. Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/05/21 11:44:20 PM #109:	OhhhJa posted... Keeping a valid ID isn't much to ask of someone. It's also not asking too much for a government run office to not mess up and delay someone who tried to keep their ID valid. --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954692764] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Keeping a valid ID isn't much to ask of someone.</quote>It's also not asking too much for a government run office to not mess up and delay someone who tried to keep their ID valid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/05/21 11:46:49 PM #110:	OhhhJa posted... Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID no make us --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954692835] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID</quote> no make us </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 06/05/21 11:57:02 PM #111:	OhhhJa posted... Bottom line for this topic. No person involved in the sale of alcohol enforces these kind of stupid laws because they want to. It's because they don't want to lose their job or worse. It's not fun to tell someone you can't serve them knowing that they're about to go full blown karen over it. Keeping a valid ID isn't much to ask of someone. Mine doesn't expire for another 8 years. Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID Bottom line of this topic was I was saying that its stupid that expired ids cant be used to buy alcohol because its an age thing. and you guys took that and ran with it <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:954693073] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Bottom line for this topic. No person involved in the sale of alcohol enforces these kind of stupid laws because they want to. It's because they don't want to lose their job or worse. It's not fun to tell someone you can't serve them knowing that they're about to go full blown karen over it. Keeping a valid ID isn't much to ask of someone. Mine doesn't expire for another 8 years. Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID</quote>Bottom line of this topic was I was saying that its stupid that expired ids cant be used to buy alcohol because its an age thing. and you guys took that and ran with it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 12:02:41 AM #112:	It wasn't necessarily directed at you. There's been multiple people complain about it in the topic <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954693215] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>It wasn't necessarily directed at you. There's been multiple people complain about it in the topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monopoman 06/06/21 12:11:44 AM #113:	SunWuKung420 posted... Apparently, an expired license means you have lost all ability to drive. Also, your supposed to update your address information when you move, not when it expires. It must also make your DOB null until you pay more money. No cop on the planet would let someone off if driving with an expired license. No matter what the reason you are doing so acting, like the cop will just shrug and say no big deal is a fucking joke. When I was a 16 year old kid I got caught driving without a license only had my permit at the time, and they impounded the car. Their hands were completely tied and by state law they had to impound the car. Now this might not be the case with a expired license, but you can bet your ass a big ticket is the least of the things you will be facing. <cite>Monopoman posted [p:954693430] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>Apparently, an expired license means you have lost all ability to drive. Also, your supposed to update your address information when you move, not when it expires. It must also make your DOB null until you pay more money.</quote> No cop on the planet would let someone off if driving with an expired license. No matter what the reason you are doing so acting, like the cop will just shrug and say no big deal is a fucking joke. When I was a 16 year old kid I got caught driving without a license only had my permit at the time, and they impounded the car. Their hands were completely tied and by state law they had to impound the car. Now this might not be the case with a expired license, but you can bet your ass a big ticket is the least of the things you will be facing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/06/21 12:14:11 AM #114:	Monopoman posted... No cop on the planet would let someone off if driving with an expired license. Wrong. --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954693481] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Monopoman posted... </cite> <quote>No cop on the planet would let someone off if driving with an expired license.</quote>Wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monopoman 06/06/21 12:21:42 AM #115:	SunWuKung420 posted... Wrong. https://www.knellerins.com/what-happens-if-you-get-caught-driving-with-an-expired-license/ Looks like you were lucky as shit because that officer must have been sympathetic. Any one of the four things can happen according to the website depending on the officer and the situation. I was one time let off for a speeding ticket that would have been well over $200-300 easily, I wouldn't tell everyone "Bro, you can speed all you want the officer won't do shit!" Taking your personal experience as what happens every time you get caught driving with an expired license is not right. <cite>Monopoman posted [p:954693668] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>Wrong.</quote> https://www.knellerins.com/what-happens-if-you-get-caught-driving-with-an-expired-license/ Looks like you were lucky as shit because that officer must have been sympathetic. Any one of the four things can happen according to the website depending on the officer and the situation. I was one time let off for a speeding ticket that would have been well over $200-300 easily, I wouldn't tell everyone "Bro, you can speed all you want the officer won't do shit!" Taking your personal experience as what happens every time you get caught driving with an expired license is not right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/06/21 12:22:12 AM #116:	OhhhJa posted... That probably could be said about a bunch of shit you do every day of your life. Loosen up. Enjoy life a little bit. And before you say you don't need to drink to have fun. Neither do I. But it's still fun to do sometimes Alcohol consumption is far worse than most shit people do every day of their lives. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954693683] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>That probably could be said about a bunch of shit you do every day of your life. Loosen up. Enjoy life a little bit. And before you say you don't need to drink to have fun. Neither do I. But it's still fun to do sometimes</quote> Alcohol consumption is far worse than most shit people do every day of their lives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/06/21 12:24:38 AM #117:	Zeus posted... Alcohol consumption is far worse than most shit people do every day of their lives. Fast foods and soda are worse for health than alcohol. Sober people drive worse than drunk drivers daily. Sober people resort to pointless violence daily. --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954693751] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Alcohol consumption is far worse than most shit people do every day of their lives.</quote>Fast foods and soda are worse for health than alcohol. Sober people drive worse than drunk drivers daily. Sober people resort to pointless violence daily. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/06/21 12:25:55 AM #118:	OhhhJa posted... It wasn't necessarily directed at you. There's been multiple people complain about it in the topic oh no --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954693786] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>It wasn't necessarily directed at you. There's been multiple people complain about it in the topic</quote> oh no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 12:36:05 AM #119:	Mead posted... oh no This isn't vietnam. There are rules <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954694017] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>oh no</quote>This isn't vietnam. There are rules </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/06/21 12:49:11 AM #120:	Monopoman posted... Looks like you were lucky as shit because that officer must have been sympathetic. I've never driven with an expired license. Many cops prefer less paperwork. Many cops are doing much less because of the pandemic. What they can do and what they will, aren't always the same thing. --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954694286] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Monopoman posted... </cite> <quote>Looks like you were lucky as shit because that officer must have been sympathetic.</quote>I've never driven with an expired license. Many cops prefer less paperwork. Many cops are doing much less because of the pandemic. What they can do and what they will, aren't always the same thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/06/21 1:04:05 AM #121:	SunWuKung420 posted... Fast foods and soda are worse for health than alcohol. lolno. And don't drunkpost. SunWuKung420 posted... Sober people drive worse than drunk drivers daily. While driving ability varies by person, everybody drives worse drunk. Just like everybody posts worse drunk. SunWuKung420 posted... Sober people resort to pointless violence daily. ...and those odds go up a lot more while drinking. However, even if we could drop violence by 25% by agreeing as a culture to get rid of alcohol, that would be huge. And keep in mind that many of the people who are violent while sober grew up in households harmed by alcoholism so even there it comes back to alcohol. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954694598] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>Fast foods and soda are worse for health than alcohol.</quote> lolno. And don't drunkpost. SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>Sober people drive worse than drunk drivers daily.</quote> While driving ability varies by person, everybody drives worse drunk. Just like everybody posts worse drunk. SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>Sober people resort to pointless violence daily.</quote> ...and those odds go up a lot more while drinking. However, even if we could drop violence by 25% by agreeing as a culture to get rid of alcohol, that would be huge. And keep in mind that many of the people who are violent while sober grew up in households harmed by alcoholism so even there it comes back to alcohol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 06/06/21 1:11:43 AM #122:	Zeus is banned from this topic no high horses allowed <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:954694781] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Zeus is banned from this topic no high horses allowed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/06/21 1:17:05 AM #123:	MICHALECOLE posted... Zeus is banned from this topic no high horses allowed He is wrong anyways. --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954694897] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>MICHALECOLE posted... </cite> <quote>Zeus is banned from this topic no high horses allowed</quote>He is wrong anyways. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 06/06/21 1:17:37 AM #124:	SunWuKung420 posted... He is wrong anyways. Smh hes literally on a high horse facing the wrong direction <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:954694911] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>He is wrong anyways.</quote>Smh hes literally on a high horse facing the wrong direction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/06/21 1:28:33 AM #125:	OhhhJa posted... This isn't vietnam. There are rules and some rules are dumb nazis used to be a rule --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954695172] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>This isn't vietnam. There are rules</quote> and some rules are dumb nazis used to be a rule </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 1:34:39 AM #126:	Mead posted... and some rules are dumb nazis used to be a rule I take it you've never seen the big lebowski <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954695314] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>and some rules are dumb nazis used to be a rule</quote>I take it you've never seen the big lebowski </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 06/06/21 1:36:01 AM #127:	well i take it youre not a golfer <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:954695337] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>well i take it youre not a golfer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 1:59:15 AM #128:	MICHALECOLE posted... well i take it youre not a golfer No I'm not a rich alcoholic <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954695780] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>MICHALECOLE posted... </cite> <quote>well i take it youre not a golfer</quote>No I'm not a rich alcoholic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 06/06/21 2:04:12 AM #130:	OhhhJa posted... No I'm not a rich alcoholic Dont tell Zeus <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:954695859] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>No I'm not a rich alcoholic</quote>Dont tell Zeus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/06/21 3:42:26 AM #131:	OhhhJa posted... I take it you've never seen the big lebowski how dare you --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954697208] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>I take it you've never seen the big lebowski</quote> how dare you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 06/06/21 4:15:10 AM #132:	OhhhJa posted... Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID If you remember the OP, he mentioned renewing his ID well before his other ID expired. The DMV fucked to and sent it to the wrong place. And because of Covid, the license should have still be valid apparently. Because they were extending the expiration date, anyway... Monopoman posted... No cop on the planet would let someone off if driving with an expired license. No matter what the reason you are doing so acting, like the cop will just shrug and say no big deal is a fucking joke. Depends. No col has ever given me a ticket for driver on an expired license... Also, its different for an expired license. Suspended, as well... They normally just let you call someone to pick you up... Of course, it depends on the officer, so... Zeus posted... by agreeing as a culture to get rid of alcohol, that would be huge. Of course, we wouldnt decide it as a culture since theres no real need to get rid of it... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:954697530] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID </quote> If you remember the OP, he mentioned renewing his ID well before his other ID expired. The DMV fucked to and sent it to the wrong place. And because of Covid, the license should have still be valid apparently. Because they were extending the expiration date, anyway... Monopoman posted...</cite> <quote>No cop on the planet would let someone off if driving with an expired license. No matter what the reason you are doing so acting, like the cop will just shrug and say no big deal is a fucking joke.</quote> Depends. No col has ever given me a ticket for driver on an expired license... Also, its different for an expired license. Suspended, as well... They normally just let you call someone to pick you up... Of course, it depends on the officer, so... Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>by agreeing as a culture to get rid of alcohol, that would be huge.</quote> Of course, we wouldnt decide it as a culture since theres no real need to get rid of it...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soup_or_Science 06/06/21 5:54:30 AM #133:	My ID expires in two years. So if your ID expires every two years, you're looking at like... renewing your ID 30+ times in your lifetime, depending on your math+life expectancy That seems like too much lol --- For more information, please press 1. Para Espanol, por favor presione dos <cite>Soup_or_Science posted [p:954698540] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>My ID expires in two years. So if your ID expires every two years, you're looking at like... renewing your ID 30+ times in your lifetime, depending on your math+life expectancy That seems like too much lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 06/06/21 7:51:35 AM #134:	Depends. No col has ever given me a ticket for driver on an expired license... Also, its different for an expired license. Suspended, as well... They normally just let you call someone to pick you up... Of course, it depends on the officer, so... While it may depend on the officer as to what happens no one would bat an eye if the cop arrested someone for driving with an expired license. OhhhJa posted... Bottom line for this topic. No person involved in the sale of alcohol enforces these kind of stupid laws because they want to. It's because they don't want to lose their job or worse. It's not fun to tell someone you can't serve them knowing that they're about to go full blown karen over it. Keeping a valid ID isn't much to ask of someone. Mine doesn't expire for another 8 years. Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID Yea. Pretty much this. TC's going Karen here and is expecting people to side with them because 'it's just an age thing' when, really, they're doing the exact thing that causes cashiers to dread asking for the ID in the first place. Which is to say, complaining, making a scene, and acting like they're in the right because they can't be bothered to do something. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:954699792] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Depends. No col has ever given me a ticket for driver on an expired license... Also, its different for an expired license. Suspended, as well... They normally just let you call someone to pick you up... Of course, it depends on the officer, so... While it may depend on the officer as to what happens no one would bat an eye if the cop arrested someone for driving with an expired license. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Bottom line for this topic. No person involved in the sale of alcohol enforces these kind of stupid laws because they want to. It's because they don't want to lose their job or worse. It's not fun to tell someone you can't serve them knowing that they're about to go full blown karen over it. Keeping a valid ID isn't much to ask of someone. Mine doesn't expire for another 8 years. Surely, you can leave your house every 8 years to renew your ID</quote> Yea. Pretty much this. TC's going Karen here and is expecting people to side with them because 'it's just an age thing' when, really, they're doing the exact thing that causes cashiers to dread asking for the ID in the first place. Which is to say, complaining, making a scene, and acting like they're in the right because they can't be bothered to do something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/06/21 2:24:59 PM #135:	Zeus posted... While not everybody who drinks necessarily has what's widely considering a "drinking problem," the act of drinking itself constitutes a problem. It's something that people are much better without. And I would rather see people move from booze because the widespread consumption of alcohol helps to fuel alcohol abuse through the normalization and glorification of alcohol consumption. LMAO. Monopoman posted... No cop on the planet would let someone off if driving with an expired license. No matter what the reason you are doing so acting, like the cop will just shrug and say no big deal is a fucking joke. When I was a 16 year old kid I got caught driving without a license only had my permit at the time, and they impounded the car. Their hands were completely tied and by state law they had to impound the car. Now this might not be the case with a expired license, but you can bet your ass a big ticket is the least of the things you will be facing. They say no big deal when stepping on black people's necks so something lesser like you described most definitely happens. Zeus posted... lolno. And don't drunkpost. This is utterly false. There is absolutely no health benefits to eating fast food or drinking soda. Red wine is good for blood circulation. Soup_or_Science posted... My ID expires in two years. So if your ID expires every two years, you're looking at like... renewing your ID 30+ times in your lifetime, depending on your math+life expectancy That seems like too much lol It should be a minimum of 7 years. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954709312] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> While not everybody who drinks necessarily has what's widely considering a "drinking problem," the act of drinking itself constitutes a problem. It's something that people are much better without. And I would rather see people move from booze because the widespread consumption of alcohol helps to fuel alcohol abuse through the normalization and glorification of alcohol consumption. </quote> LMAO. Monopoman posted...</cite> <quote> No cop on the planet would let someone off if driving with an expired license. No matter what the reason you are doing so acting, like the cop will just shrug and say no big deal is a fucking joke. When I was a 16 year old kid I got caught driving without a license only had my permit at the time, and they impounded the car. Their hands were completely tied and by state law they had to impound the car. Now this might not be the case with a expired license, but you can bet your ass a big ticket is the least of the things you will be facing. </quote> They say no big deal when stepping on black people's necks so something lesser like you described most definitely happens. Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> lolno. And don't drunkpost. </quote> This is utterly false. There is absolutely no health benefits to eating fast food or drinking soda. Red wine is good for blood circulation. Soup_or_Science posted...</cite> <quote>My ID expires in two years. So if your ID expires every two years, you're looking at like... renewing your ID 30+ times in your lifetime, depending on your math+life expectancy That seems like too much lol </quote> It should be a minimum of 7 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/06/21 2:32:29 PM #136:	Unbridled9 posted... While it may depend on the officer as to what happens no one would bat an eye if the cop arrested someone for driving with an expired license. but they wouldnt arrest someone for having expired identification --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954709548] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Unbridled9 posted... </cite> <quote>While it may depend on the officer as to what happens no one would bat an eye if the cop arrested someone for driving with an expired license.</quote> but they wouldnt arrest someone for having expired identification </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/06/21 3:27:03 PM #137:	MICHALECOLE posted... so then Im at Safeway and buying alcohol and I show him my ID and hes like thats expired. Unless you've dramatically changed appearance wise it is dumb to claim all your details that prove who you are, including a photo has expired so that can no longer prove it's you. I'm lucky I don't get asked for I.D much anymore and when my current I.D runs out(2031) I'll probably need to update my provisional driving licence photo anyway. I don't change much in appearance but I am getting older so change a little. It's every 10 years I need to renew my passport and driving licence(only got for I.D) so that's not bad. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:954711104] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>MICHALECOLE posted... </cite> <quote>so then Im at Safeway and buying alcohol and I show him my ID and hes like thats expired. </quote> Unless you've dramatically changed appearance wise it is dumb to claim all your details that prove who you are, including a photo has expired so that can no longer prove it's you. I'm lucky I don't get asked for I.D much anymore and when my current I.D runs out(2031) I'll probably need to update my provisional driving licence photo anyway. I don't change much in appearance but I am getting older so change a little. It's every 10 years I need to renew my passport and driving licence(only got for I.D) so that's not bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 06/06/21 10:18:05 PM #138:	SunWuKung420 posted... I buy beer at the grocery store I can walk too. They know I'm of legal age to purchase the beer but their policy is to scan my id every time. It's like they are tracking me. Such an invasion of privacy. I was so close to agreeing with the TC until this fucking idiot posted. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:954723522] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>I buy beer at the grocery store I can walk too. They know I'm of legal age to purchase the beer but their policy is to scan my id every time. It's like they are tracking me. Such an invasion of privacy.</quote>I was so close to agreeing with the TC until this fucking idiot posted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/06/21 10:21:27 PM #139:	Cacciato posted... I was so close to agreeing with the TC until this fucking idiot posted. I mean I've never had anyone scan my I.D or scanned it myself when working in retail. Is this a common thing in USA? --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:954723610] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Cacciato posted... </cite> <quote>I was so close to agreeing with the TC until this fucking idiot posted.</quote>I mean I've never had anyone scan my I.D or scanned it myself when working in retail. Is this a common thing in USA? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/06/21 10:42:56 PM #140:	I wouldn't know since I haven't bought alcohol in years. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954724208] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't know since I haven't bought alcohol in years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 06/06/21 11:20:49 PM #141:	wwinterj25 posted... I mean I've never had anyone scan my I.D or scanned it myself when working in retail. Is this a common thing in USA? I live in Ohio and theyve done it every time at specific stores, especially the big corporate ones. Im sure it depends on each states alcohol laws. But its common enough that I have no idea why Sunny thinks its some stupid ass invasion of privacy <cite>Cacciato posted [p:954725308] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>I mean I've never had anyone scan my I.D or scanned it myself when working in retail. Is this a common thing in USA?</quote>I live in Ohio and theyve done it every time at specific stores, especially the big corporate ones. Im sure it depends on each states alcohol laws. But its common enough that I have no idea why Sunny thinks its some stupid ass invasion of privacy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/06/21 11:22:23 PM #142:	Cacciato posted... I live in Ohio and theyve done it every time at specific stores, especially the big corporate ones. Im sure it depends on each states alcohol laws. But its common enough that I have no idea why Sunny thinks its some stupid ass invasion of privacy That's actually good to know if I ever visit the states. Thanks. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:954725355] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Cacciato posted... </cite> <quote>I live in Ohio and theyve done it every time at specific stores, especially the big corporate ones. Im sure it depends on each states alcohol laws. But its common enough that I have no idea why Sunny thinks its some stupid ass invasion of privacy</quote>That's actually good to know if I ever visit the states. Thanks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/07/21 12:01:13 AM #143:	I clearly look old enough to buy beer and its been established that I can buy alcohol legally. They don't need to scan my ID every time. If I forgot my wallet, would they deny my purchase? To follow a law, to avoid making money? They must have a detailed record of the transaction? Sure sounds like tracking information to me. Right, @cacciato? Like collecting warfare info? Everyone is a combatant? --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954726296] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>I clearly look old enough to buy beer and its been established that I can buy alcohol legally. They don't need to scan my ID every time. If I forgot my wallet, would they deny my purchase? To follow a law, to avoid making money? They must have a detailed record of the transaction? Sure sounds like tracking information to me. Right, @cacciato? Like collecting warfare info? Everyone is a combatant? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/07/21 1:28:07 PM #145:	SunWuKung420 posted... I clearly look old enough to buy beer and its been established that I can buy alcohol legally. They don't need to scan my ID every time. If I forgot my wallet, would they deny my purchase? To follow a law, to avoid making money? They must have a detailed record of the transaction? Sure sounds like tracking information to me. Right, @cacciato? Like collecting warfare info? Everyone is a combatant? If you forgot your wallet they would refuse the sale due to your lack of funds. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954741854] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>I clearly look old enough to buy beer and its been established that I can buy alcohol legally. They don't need to scan my ID every time. If I forgot my wallet, would they deny my purchase? To follow a law, to avoid making money? They must have a detailed record of the transaction? Sure sounds like tracking information to me. Right, @cacciato? Like collecting warfare info? Everyone is a combatant? </quote> If you forgot your wallet they would refuse the sale due to your lack of funds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/07/21 1:29:51 PM #146:	Revelation34 posted... If you forgot your wallet they would refuse the sale due to your lack of funds. I keep my cash separate from my wallet smart guy --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954741915] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>If you forgot your wallet they would refuse the sale due to your lack of funds.</quote>I keep my cash separate from my wallet smart guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 06/07/21 1:35:04 PM #147:	SunWuKung420 posted... I keep my cash separate from my wallet smart guy Seems weird since a wallet was made for the money... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:954742128] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>I keep my cash separate from my wallet smart guy</quote> Seems weird since a wallet was made for the money...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 06/07/21 1:36:14 PM #148:	LinkPizza posted... Seems weird since a wallet was made for the money... So...it was made to hold other things also...I prefer to not need to pull out my wallet just to grab a dollar... --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:954742174] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Seems weird since a wallet was made for the money...</quote>So...it was made to hold other things also...I prefer to not need to pull out my wallet just to grab a dollar... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 06/07/21 1:39:00 PM #149:	SunWuKung420 posted... So...it was made to hold other things also...I prefer to not need to pull out my wallet just to grab a dollar... Sure. But I believe the original intention was money. Then they added slots for cards (like debit, credit, ID, license, etc.)... But the reason I mentioned it is because you made it seem like it was weird that Rev would assume you keep your money in your wallet since its a normal thing to do... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:954742271] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>So...it was made to hold other things also...I prefer to not need to pull out my wallet just to grab a dollar...</quote> Sure. But I believe the original intention was money. Then they added slots for cards (like debit, credit, ID, license, etc.)... But the reason I mentioned it is because you made it seem like it was weird that Rev would assume you keep your money in your wallet since its a normal thing to do...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 06/07/21 1:43:25 PM #150:	Voting is the only thing I can think of here where an expired id would be valid (up to a certain amount of years expired) --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:954742441] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>Voting is the only thing I can think of here where an expired id would be valid (up to a certain amount of years expired) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 06/07/21 3:32:17 PM #151:	SunWuKung420 posted... I keep my cash separate from my wallet smart guy goddamn I feel bad for Marie <cite>Cacciato posted [p:954745996] in I don't un... [t:79496350]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>I keep my cash separate from my wallet smart guy</quote>goddamn I feel bad for Marie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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