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ToPoPO 05/05/21 12:13:24 PM #1: |
New details have been revealed about the next Superman movie. The film is being written by Ta-Nehisi Coates and will be produced by JJ Abrams. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/next-superman-movie-will-be-an-origin-story-with-a-black-kal-el-report/1100-6491043/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 05/05/21 12:14:05 PM #2: |
Cool.
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Total_Lost2 05/05/21 12:15:13 PM #3: |
So Calvin Ellis?
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Doom_Art 05/05/21 12:15:36 PM #4: |
Nothing against the character being black at all.
I just dunno if I care for their choice in writer, but I'll withhold judgement til I see it. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ilishe 05/05/21 12:18:31 PM #5: |
Sure
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EmbraceOfDeath 05/05/21 12:20:19 PM #6: |
I'm sure the people who get mad about characters being whitewashed will be up in arms here since there's no way they could be hypocrites.
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Prismsblade 05/05/21 12:21:19 PM #7: |
So If the story is true and is just another origin telling then literally the only reason for this movies existence is for a black superman. Nothing new in regards to character, lore, story, nothing.
I'm struggling to see the point of this. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 05/05/21 12:21:22 PM #8: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
I'm sure the people who get mad about characters being whitewashed will be up in arms here since there's no way they could be hypocrites.What do you mean? They arent making Clark Kent black. Theyre making Superman black. Just like Spider-Man is black now since hes not Peter Parker anymore. Why should anyone have an issue with that? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 05/05/21 12:22:10 PM #9: |
We already had one.
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R1masher 05/05/21 12:22:13 PM #10: |
Will being melanated effect his powers?
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Chozo_Gunner 05/05/21 12:22:27 PM #11: |
Sure, why not?
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hockeybub89 05/05/21 12:23:05 PM #12: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
I'm sure the people who get mad about characters being whitewashed will be up in arms here since there's no way they could be hypocrites.But that's not hypocritical and Superman has bene black --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 05/05/21 12:23:05 PM #13: |
ToPoPO posted...
THR's sources state it would be "tone-deaf" for Abrams himself to direct. lol suck it JK! ToPoPO posted... As for the movie's plot, Coates is reportedly writing an origin story that will see Kal-El arrive on Earth from Krypton. One idea being considered is that the movie is a "20th century period piece." In addition, the current plan is that the movie will stand alone from other DC films and won't be part of an existing universe. Ugh ANOTHER fucking origin story! JFC can't we just literally start a Superman movie anytime after he's Superman? --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 05/05/21 12:23:10 PM #14: |
I wonder of Lex will be black
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lolife67 05/05/21 12:24:46 PM #15: |
I'd rather they just do an Icon movie. Hell, a Milestone Cinematic Universe is just waiting to print money but....
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TommyG663513 05/05/21 12:26:04 PM #16: |
Justice League Gods and Monsters is one of the many alternate stories that has explored this possibility. Basically, if he isn't white and from Kansas then he isn't the traditional Superman. That isn't necessarily a bad thing though.
Hugely disappointed that Michael B. Jordan isn't interested as he's really the only person I'd want to see take on such a role. I'm pretty skeptical of most DCEU type projects though. This movie has to be pretty great for this character. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 05/05/21 12:29:47 PM #17: |
Is the intention to tell a "look how different things would be if the all powerful alien that showed up was Black" kind of story that explores the racial divisions of our world? Does he still land and grow up in small town Kansas? I don't know enough about what they're trying to do here to know how I feel about it.
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Solar_Crimson 05/05/21 12:35:53 PM #18: |
Total_Lost2 posted...
So Calvin Ellis? --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD 05/05/21 12:40:27 PM #20: |
Jack Black is not Superman material.
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TommyG663513 05/05/21 12:41:45 PM #21: |
hockeybub89 posted...
But that's not hypocritical and Superman has bene black But he isn't traditionally black and non white Superman's are more of an else world stories thing --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 05/05/21 12:42:50 PM #22: |
I hope they actually tie it into the multiverse with like Kryptons orbit being shifted closer to the sun and becoming more like an African plain. Space Wakanda.
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lolife67 05/05/21 12:43:08 PM #23: |
TommyG663513 posted...
But he isn't traditionally black and non white Superman's are more of an else world stories thingTo be fair, this would also be an Elseworlds story. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 05/05/21 12:43:18 PM #24: |
2/3 of the movie will be about the Metroplis Police Department having an existential crisis.
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TommyG663513 05/05/21 12:45:38 PM #25: |
lolife67 posted...
To be fair, this would also be an Elseworlds story. I guess they're calling it stand alone, but they could always walk back that statement if the movie is well received. I thought Gods and Monsters had a very interesting take on Superman and I'd be interested in seeing something like that on film. It just needs to be pointed out that you don't just change Superman's akin color and have the same character. A white guy from Kansas will have a very different perspective from a black Superman which is what makes the character interesting. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReignFury 05/05/21 12:52:15 PM #26: |
This is shortsighted, theres a short term window where Warner Bros gets to celebrate their decision, but they'll move on and in the long term it'll be hijacked and used against black people for years.
Just give us a John Stewart movie with Martian Manhunter in support. Also apologize to Ray Fisher and let him do his Cyborg movie. --- Occasionally posting in a dead gaming forum ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/05/21 12:53:14 PM #27: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
I'm sure the people who get mad about characters being whitewashed will be up in arms here since there's no way they could be hypocrites. There's an actual black Superman in the comics you clown --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJ2GrimReaper 05/05/21 12:54:28 PM #28: |
They announced this on Henry Cavill's birthday too lol
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lolife67 05/05/21 12:55:41 PM #29: |
TommyG663513 posted...
A white guy from Kansas will have a very different perspective from a black Superman which is what makes the character interesting.Well I'm sure that's part of the point to doing this. Giving a different perspective. Which is why I say making an Icon film would make more sense as it accomplishes the same thing without being a re-hash or lazy race change. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Shadow_19 05/05/21 2:44:14 PM #30: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
I'm sure the people who get mad about characters being whitewashed will be up in arms here since there's no way they could be hypocrites. As long as they don't name him Clark Kent, and don't make his entire character revolve around him being black, I don't care. --- Playing: The Outer Worlds, Monster Hunter Rise PM me for an invite to CryptoFAQs, my crypto discord. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AmericaTheBrave 05/05/21 2:47:46 PM #31: |
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mcpwnia 05/05/21 2:49:40 PM #32: |
TommyG663513 posted...
But he isn't traditionally black and non white Superman's are more of an else world stories thingwhat do you think the movies are? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 05/05/21 2:52:21 PM #33: |
mcpwnia posted...
what do you think the movies are?Wait...you mean theyre not biographical accounts of real people that lived?! --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 05/05/21 2:53:21 PM #34: |
All characters in the film should be black. Superman, Lois, Luther, etc.
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Rhylos 05/05/21 2:54:52 PM #35: |
iPhone_7 posted...
All characters in the film should be black. Superman, Lois, Luther, etc. Of course. Skin color is really important. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarDestroyer 05/05/21 2:56:03 PM #36: |
Another Superman origin story?
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archedsoul 05/05/21 2:56:36 PM #37: |
I could see where this is going. He's gonna be grow up in the hood and we'll see a much different perspective on what environment does to someone like that. They hit it big with standalone Joker, and standalone Batman seems to be shaping up pretty good, so I'll definitely give this a chance.
Though I'm confused why Supergirl is Hispanic but in the DCEU. Are they gonna pass her off as a white girl, being Cavill's cousin? Or maybe from the multiverse, which could also open this up, but I'm thinking WB's plan now is to do the DCEU, multiverse and standalones all simultaneously. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonGrackle 05/05/21 2:57:57 PM #38: |
why does anyone think this Coates person knows how to write superhero movies?
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Slayerblade11 05/05/21 2:59:05 PM #39: |
Will it be clark kent superman or a new character like miles morales?
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archedsoul 05/05/21 2:59:42 PM #40: |
Slayerblade11 posted...
Will it be clark kent superman or a new character like miles morales?Same Kal-El. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 05/05/21 3:07:52 PM #41: |
I have a hard time believing this is real, unless it's a Producers-style scam on investors.
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lolife67 05/05/21 3:11:32 PM #42: |
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Same Kal-El.Kal-El doesn't mean Clark Kent, as an fyi. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 05/05/21 3:23:44 PM #43: |
lolife67 posted...
Well I'm sure that's part of the point to doing this. Giving a different perspective. Which is why I say making an Icon film would make more sense as it accomplishes the same thing without being a re-hash or lazy race change. I would hope that is the point, but it is also a very different Superman. I mean, if you're going to race swap then you need to change quite a bit about the character and he becomes quite a different character. We don't know what they actually plan to change about the character beyond skin tone and everything else is just an assumption --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joel95 05/05/21 3:26:42 PM #44: |
Lord_Shadow_19 posted...
As long as they don't name him Clark Kent, and don't make his entire character revolve around him being black, I don't care.Yeah because a black Superman definitely wouldnt suffer from racism lol. And what the fuck does it matter if Clark Kent is black? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JusticeNotPeace 05/05/21 3:27:19 PM #45: |
He's alien that literally needs to bask in the sun to maintain his power
His ass shoulda ALWAYS been a black dude. --- I'm a Black man first, American second End White Supremacy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CRON 05/05/21 3:29:27 PM #46: |
Considering he's a humanoid alien, they can make him look however they want.
That being said, this is 110% Warner/DC realizing that "the next Superman is black" will get people talking, for better or worse. --- [obligatory signature] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Proto_Spark 05/05/21 3:30:43 PM #47: |
As long as hes a better Superman than Snyders I dont have any issues.
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TommyG663513 05/05/21 3:31:03 PM #48: |
mcpwnia posted...
what do you think the movies are? TheVipaGTS posted... Wait...you mean theyre not biographical accounts of real people that lived?! @TheVipaGTS I'm not sure you are understanding at all what I was saying. @mcpwnia Do you understand what the term "else world" means in terms of comic book story continuity? It's meant to deviate significantly from the norm like a "what if?" type scenario. The MCU is releasing a show entitled "what if?" to be released this summer which would be the first instance of an else world story being presented as part of an expanded cinematic universe. Closest thing we've gotten was the animated Justice League Gods and Monsters which came out like maybe 7ish (estimate) years ago. I don't know if they're attempting to present this Superman as an else world type story or not, but it seems fair to speculate. I guess you could call the Joker film somewhat of an else world style story too and perhaps the upcoming Batman could be seen that way. Though you could also argue that WB is just trying out random stuff and not going for any or much of any sort of real continuity. It kind of seems like they sort of are sort of aren't and have no desire to really commit to anything after early attempts at the DCEU were not nearly as successful as they'd have liked. Edit:Into the Spider verse could also be argued as being an else world story to a varying degrees though the multiverse stuff kind of implies that these things are more connected than separate. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 05/05/21 3:43:50 PM #49: |
...when you look at the article, it's 100% speculation based on a tweet that cites nameless sources. Wtf? Is this what passes for journalism nowadays?
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Bass_X0 05/05/21 3:52:21 PM #50: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
What do you mean? They arent making Clark Kent black. Theyre making Superman black. Just like Spider-Man is black now since hes not Peter Parker anymore. Why should anyone have an issue with that? Clark Kent is the disguise of Kal-El whose superhero identity is Superman. Its all explained in Kill Bill. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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