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Geiki Ganger
04/13/21 12:07:35 PM
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Or would he just turn a blind eye and pretend China and Taiwan were one country the whole time.

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Doom_Art
04/13/21 12:08:08 PM
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Lemme ask you, what are you trying to accomplish with this topic?

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Geiki Ganger
04/13/21 12:10:31 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Lemme ask you, what are you trying to accomplish with this topic?

Pick the brains of the best and finest posters on CE.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/13/21 12:11:35 PM
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I think we all know the NBA would congratulate China on a successful invasion

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Doom_Art
04/13/21 12:12:08 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Pick the brains of the best and finest posters on CE.
Is there a particular answer you're looking for?

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Squall28
04/13/21 12:12:23 PM
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Nobody's gonna do shit. China has been dicking around with borders for a while now.

This area "always belonged to China."

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DarthWendy
04/13/21 12:13:10 PM
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First, China would absolutely not, in the current state of affairs, engage in direct military action against Taiwan.
But IF it were to occur, Im fairly certain the US would not risk an open war with China over Taiwan. The stakes are too low compared to the catastrophic outcome of such a war. The ever inescapable benefits/losses equation.

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Geiki Ganger
04/13/21 12:15:46 PM
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DarthWendy posted...
First, China would absolutely not, in the current state of affairs, engage in direct military action against Taiwan.

I don't think you've been following the news in that region. China is literally flying fighter jets through Taiwan's airspace every day and has dropped all mention of the word "peaceful" in their talks about reunification. Taiwanese hospitals are doing drills every day in preparation for war.

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kingdrake2
04/13/21 12:18:07 PM
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china's going to pull something :(.
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AmericaTheBrave
04/13/21 12:20:34 PM
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I'll never understand China's "everything belongs to China" mindset. You lost territory, China. Get over it.

Imagine if Mexico was always going on about taking Texas back.

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s0nicfan
04/13/21 12:21:45 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
I'll never understand China's "everything belongs to China" mindset. You lost territory, China. Get over it.

Imagine if Mexico was always going on about taking Texas back.

Germany did the same thing in world war 2. If you couch your aggressive expansionist actions as "reclaiming territory that was unfairly taken" from you, you can usually get a little less resistance from the international community.

They need to claim everything used to be theirs so that when they take it by force they can claim that they are just reunifying and not actually taking somebody else's land.

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Aressar
04/13/21 12:22:09 PM
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DarthWendy posted...
First, China would absolutely not, in the current state of affairs, engage in direct military action against Taiwan.
But IF it were to occur, Im fairly certain the US would not risk an open war with China over Taiwan. The stakes are too low compared to the catastrophic outcome of such a war. The ever inescapable benefits/losses equation.

This. Same reason the US (or any other country for that matter) doesn't take directly intervening action to liberate places like North Korea or Tibet.
No one wants to risk war with China, especially when there's not much to gain (aside from a few more potentially democratic countries) and everything to lose.

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Geiki Ganger
04/13/21 12:24:27 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Germany did the same thing in world war 2. If you couch your aggressive expansionist actions as "reclaiming territory that was unfairly taken" from you, you can usually get a little less resistance from the international community.

They need to claim everything used to be theirs so that when they take it by force they can claim that they are just reunifying and not actually taking somebody else's land.

This is a good post.

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Veggeta X
04/13/21 12:26:11 PM
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Lemme ask y'all this; what is China declares war on an allied country? What then?

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ZeroX91
04/13/21 12:28:45 PM
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"This is a terible bad dirty rotten nogood thing to do" then immediatly back down like every other spineless politician out there...and we end up in another World War in 5 years when China starts knocking on Frances back door.

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Gainerama
04/13/21 12:29:03 PM
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Nope, US will not intervene other than some meaningless sanctions and pretend criticism. US is terrified of any armed conflict with China. It's the equivalent of going head on armed conflict with Russia, there's no positive outcome.
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MKScorpion
04/13/21 12:29:45 PM
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...I mean America doesn't have to try and be the world police all the time


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Veggeta X
04/13/21 12:30:11 PM
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Well the US was secretly involved in the Vietnam war when they publically said they wasn't.

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ZeroX91
04/13/21 12:30:24 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Lemme ask y'all this; what is China declares war on an allied country? What then?
Is that country in Europe or is it Japan? If yes, maybe. If no fuck no.

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Gainerama
04/13/21 12:31:26 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Well the US was secretly involved in the Vietnam war when they publically said they wasn't.
And they learned a lesson not to stick their nose in other people's business. It didn't work in Vietnam and it didn't work in Afghanistan.
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Materus
04/13/21 12:32:01 PM
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Probably not, I dont see Biden or really any politician having any issues with a country that makes Nazi Germany look like amateurs as long as it makes them money.

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UnfairRepresent
04/13/21 12:32:08 PM
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No

Overwhelmingly the US wouldn't care

I hate to Godwins law but most Americans were totally fine with Hitler and Japan committing mass genocide

Opinion only shifted after Pearl Harbour

If China attacked Samoa the US would care

but not Taiwan

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Doom_Art
04/13/21 12:33:06 PM
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Materus posted...
as long as it makes them money.
Which politician is making money off of an invasion of Taiwan and how?

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AtelierRyza3462
04/13/21 12:33:45 PM
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He fucking better help

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ZeroX91
04/13/21 12:36:26 PM
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Squall28 posted...
Nobody's gonna do shit. China has been dicking around with borders for a while now.

This area "always belonged to China."
West Taiwan sure is crazy

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ZeroX91
04/13/21 12:37:18 PM
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Revnir posted...
And Russia is doing it today.
They need to give Japan back that island damn it

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ZeroX91
04/13/21 12:37:56 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I think we all know the NBA would congratulate China on a successful invasion
Blizzard too

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Ilishe
04/13/21 12:42:43 PM
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There's nothing the USA could even do short of starting an apocalyptic nuclear war that would destroy the world as we know it.

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uwnim
04/13/21 12:50:14 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
I'll never understand China's "everything belongs to China" mindset. You lost territory, China. Get over it.

Imagine if Mexico was always going on about taking Texas back.
They didn't even lose Taiwan. They literally never even controlled it.

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Geiki Ganger
04/14/21 12:34:43 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
No

Overwhelmingly the US wouldn't care

I hate to Godwins law but most Americans were totally fine with Hitler and Japan committing mass genocide

Opinion only shifted after Pearl Harbour

If China attacked Samoa the US would care

but not Taiwan

I don't think this is the same though.

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twitterfriends
04/14/21 12:38:00 AM
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Why would it be our problem, we can't afford anymore wars

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04/14/21 12:42:25 AM
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ThePrinceFish
04/14/21 12:43:57 AM
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American blood should not be spilled in defense of Taiwan or any country that isn't the homeland.

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HadoukenZ
04/14/21 12:47:01 AM
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We should give Alaska and Texas back.

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Twohappygoats
04/14/21 12:59:32 AM
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Between Iran ramping up shit with Israel and their nuclear facilities, China sending record-setting flights over Taiwan, and Russia building up forces at the Ukrainian border, this could be an interesting year.

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TomNook20
04/14/21 1:00:51 AM
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He'd say come on man, then condemn white supremacy.

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hockeybub89
04/14/21 1:03:14 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I think we all know the NBA would congratulate China on a successful invasion
Nothing dumber than trying to pass around China like a football. None of the rich elite are above making mutually beneficial deals with China.

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project_night
04/14/21 1:17:33 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
No

Overwhelmingly the US wouldn't care

I hate to Godwins law but most Americans were totally fine with Hitler and Japan committing mass genocide

Opinion only shifted after Pearl Harbour

If China attacked Samoa the US would care

but not Taiwan


Americans would care once they realize Taiwan produces stuff like semiconductors necessary for game consoles, pc cpu and gpus, cars, smartphones, tv, servers, etc. There is already a major shortage of semiconductors that is fucking up the supply of a bunch of things. If there is an actual war between Taiwan and China, the world economy could get fucked. It is a big reason why the US government is encouraging Taiwan Semiconductor, Intel, and Samsung to start building factories in the US.
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Zaltera
04/14/21 1:25:09 AM
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If China were serious about invading Taiwan, the battle would be over before the US could move to assist.

People would toss around phrases like "we strongly condemn" but in the end nothing substantial would be done about it.

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shironinja
04/14/21 1:30:52 AM
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"Maybe some sanctions will curb China's progress." - Biden

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fhqwhgads
04/14/21 1:32:41 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Which politician is making money off of an invasion of Taiwan and how?
Are you for real

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Tyranthraxus
04/14/21 1:34:33 AM
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China would rather kill everyone on the island than have it be acknowledged as a foreign country so chances are USA will do nothing.

Until it inconveniences white european or american men, expect nothing to ever be done to China.

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Lorenzo_2003
04/14/21 2:00:08 AM
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DarthWendy posted...
First, China would absolutely not, in the current state of affairs, engage in direct military action against Taiwan.
But IF it were to occur, Im fairly certain the US would not risk an open war with China over Taiwan. The stakes are too low compared to the catastrophic outcome of such a war. The ever inescapable benefits/losses equation.

Yeah, its better to lay low. Im sure the CCP dont have any intentions on expanding further.

This is the Poland argument.

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BigB0ss13
04/14/21 2:00:46 AM
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China shouldn't cuck Taiwan even more than they did. They won the war decades ago and sent their enemies with their tails between their legs and them escaping to Taiwan. Just let them be.
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shironinja
04/14/21 11:27:14 AM
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China keeps trying to establish tourist destinations but the international community frowns upon it.



https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/commentary/2020/04/17/chinas-island-fortifications-are-a-challenge-to-international-norms/

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Trelve
04/14/21 11:33:44 AM
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Appeasement never works out well. World War II proved that point well. If China takes Taiwan, they then know that no-one's going to do jack shit about any other country they want to invade.
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twitterfriends
04/14/21 11:35:07 AM
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I like how war mongers are like what if China attacks an ally, have you stopped and considered China is one of our strongest allies.

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