Current Events > If China invades Taiwan with military force, would Biden actually help?

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pikachupwnage
04/14/21 11:36:41 AM
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DarthWendy posted...
First, China would absolutely not, in the current state of affairs, engage in direct military action against Taiwan.
But IF it were to occur, Im fairly certain the US would not risk an open war with China over Taiwan. The stakes are too low compared to the catastrophic outcome of such a war. The ever inescapable benefits/losses equation.

If Russia actually does invade Ukraine and the US helps Ukraine I could see China taking advantage of that to invade Taiwan.

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MajesticFerret
04/14/21 11:56:02 AM
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I love Taipei, but as long as they use the same "one country, two systems" policy like they use in Hong Kong, it should be fine.

It's really just a big power grab. Taiwan has become quite prosperous over the decades and China wants that sweet, sweet tax revenue. However, one of the reasons Taiwan is so prosperous is because it ISN'T China and has become a popular intermittent travel hub between the entire east Asia region.

I don't think China will take Taiwan by force if it thinks Taiwan will earnestly fight back. It would literally defeat the purpose of taking Taiwan. Taipei is one of the wealthiest cities in Asia and is integral to trade and travel relations all throughout Asia. If you turn it into a war zone, it all goes to shit and the nation massively loses value.

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shironinja
04/14/21 12:00:42 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
If Russia actually does invade Ukraine and the US helps Ukraine I could see China taking advantage of that to invade Taiwan.

Russia maintains that it has always been their territory and that they are simply annexing it. Not an invasion and any who resist are terrorists who must be dealt with swiftly to prevent them interfering with good honest Russians who wish to work and live in the region peacefully.

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pikachupwnage
04/14/21 12:09:43 PM
#54:


shironinja posted...
Russia maintains that it has always been their territory and that they are simply annexing it. Not an invasion and any who resist are terrorists who must be dealt with swiftly to prevent them interfering with good honest Russians who wish to work and live in the region peacefully.

I was going to say you can make more then whatever Putin is paying you at an actual job, but I doubt being a McDonalds Janitor pays more. That is the most prestigious job you are capable of acquiring and performing.

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darkmaian23
04/14/21 12:37:29 PM
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twitterfriends posted...
I like how war mongers are like what if China attacks an ally, have you stopped and considered China is one of our strongest allies.
I like how you are completely full of shit.
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shironinja
04/14/21 12:46:35 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
I was going to say you can make more then whatever Putin is paying you at an actual job, but I doubt being a McDonalds Janitor pays more. That is the most prestigious job you are capable of acquiring and performing.

A communist system is not incentivized by acquisition of capital or material wealth in performance of one's duties to the state; which is a reward in itself.

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Broseph_Stalin
04/14/21 1:01:14 PM
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The US can't intervene overseas to protect other countries, that's imperialism.
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indica
04/14/21 1:21:19 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
The US can't intervene overseas to protect other countries, that's imperialism.
In this case, it would be fulfilling a contractual obligation made after WW2 but yeah, normally that's what it usually is..

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Broseph_Stalin
04/14/21 1:31:46 PM
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indica posted...
normally that's what it usually is..

Thread: ending genocide in Yugoslavia was actually US imperialism (1/??)

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CommonGrackle
04/14/21 1:46:12 PM
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if mainland China wanted Taiwan they could simply try emulating its more human friendly policies.
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ZeroX91
04/15/21 11:29:56 AM
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CommonGrackle posted...
if mainland China wanted Taiwan they could simply try emulating its more human friendly policies.
Thats like expecting North Korea to just suddenly be South Korea

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Questionmarktarius
04/15/21 11:32:16 AM
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Rearm Japan, and China's threat is diminished significantly.
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hockeybub89
04/15/21 11:32:46 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
The US can't intervene overseas to protect other countries, that's imperialism.
The US specifically should not intervene, no. The entire world should intervene, including the US.

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Letron_James
04/15/21 11:33:18 AM
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The only way China does that is if Russia simultaneously takes Ukraine by force. That's such a nuclear option to obtaining Taiwan. They are playing the long game, and have been chipping away slowly over decades to get Taiwan. Every now and again they do something more outlandish, but it's never going to be an open arms conflict where they kill civilians

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Questionmarktarius
04/15/21 11:33:48 AM
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Letron_James posted...
The only way China does that is if Russia simultaneously takes Ukraine by force.
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Geiki Ganger
04/15/21 1:32:49 PM
#66:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Until it inconveniences white european or american men, expect nothing to ever be done to China.

Even then, would corporations or countries really risk do anything to risk piss off China?

So far, the answer appears to be no. The international community has not demonstrated they would do anything to retaliate against China.

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Fade2black001
04/15/21 1:35:13 PM
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He wont do a damn thing cause he doesn't give a shit

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OmegaShinkai
04/15/21 1:44:43 PM
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I find their claims over the South China Sea especially hilarious, like what the fuck are these borders?

The other countries wouldn't even be able to operate blue water ships with these claims.
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Duncanwii
04/15/21 2:02:27 PM
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America going to war with China (or Russia) is the end of mankind so I hope we do nothing in that situation outside of maybe sanctions.
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Geiki Ganger
04/16/21 12:09:00 PM
#70:


Duncanwii posted...
America going to war with China (or Russia) is the end of mankind so I hope we do nothing in that situation outside of maybe sanctions.

By that logic, America would be okay with China taking over all of Asia?

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Questionmarktarius
04/16/21 12:17:39 PM
#71:


Geiki Ganger posted...
By that logic, America would be okay with China taking over all of Asia?
Again, I'll suggest rearming Japan.
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Lorenzo_2003
04/16/21 8:57:09 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Again, I'll suggest rearming Japan.

Nobody wants that, not even the Japan.

Plus the US has to make a stand eventually because it does massive trade and transportation through that area of the Pacific. Standing by and watching the CCP build armed sites and patrol waters they are not supposed to be in is going to come back and bite everyone in the ass eventually

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