Current Events > Restaurant closes after facing backlash for not allowing server to wear BLM mask

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I would love to hear anyones argument for how Black Lives Matter is political. Its a statement that simply claims we need to all be treated equally.

How is that political?

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There was a manager at Target that would wear BLM masks. Everyone went to HR and said they were going to wear MAGA masks if this was allowed. She suddenly stopped wearing BLM masks.

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LivingLegend posted...

EffectAndCause posted...

So a BLM mask must be allowed but a MAGA mask is fireable?

Just making sure I have the situation right.

100%.

MAGA is about white supremacy.

BLM is about equality.

This can't be serious. People can support both ideas, and this doesn't explain the minorities who back Trump.
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EffectAndCause posted...

I think MAGA is a poisonous cancer too, but I think someone wearing a MAGA mask and someone wearing a BLM mask should be treated the same by their employer because im not a hypocrite.

Disagreed on both counts.

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HaVeNII7 posted...

I would love to hear anyones argument for how Black Lives Matter is political. Its a statement that simply claims we need to all be treated equally.

How is that political?

The idea communicated by the literal meaning of the phrase "black lives matter" is not political, no.

However - and you know this damn well, I suspect - there's also a major political movement using that phrase as its name, which is also almost certianly what the employee in question was showing support for, not just for the literal idea that black lives do matter.

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EricDraven59 posted...

Well its their business. When you work in any place you have to follow the rules of that business. Maybe the owners didn't want people wearing political things at the job. Not everyone is a BLM supporter, and if customers come in and don't want that pushed in their faces then its a fair thing

And if you disagree with them or find their rules fundamentally problematic, you have every right to do everything in your power within the law to fuck the business over in any way you legally can
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Yeah: people just want America to be made great again. It has nothing to do with trump or white supremacy.

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EffectAndCause posted...

I wonder if it was a MAGA mask if people would feel the same.

Most businesses don't want their employees to express political views for obvious reasons.

Hopefully they close permenantly

Machete posted...

And if you disagree with them or find their rules fundamentally problematic, you have every right to do everything in your power within the law to fuck the business over in any way you legally can

And you also have a right to quit the job if you dont like following the rules. And not turn it into some big drama online to rally people to hurt that company. Thats not what actual adults in the world do, thats what someone petty does. Actually instead of the company bowing to BLM they should say they are gonna sue her for causing them a bunch of damage

ShibaToken posted...

What if it was a company slogan? Apparently that's better than one that supports human rights?

A work slogan would be fine, because it's related to the company who is paying you money to be a representative for them.

This isn't about whether one slogan is "better" than another or not. This is about "are political slogans ok in the workplace?" Stop trying to muddy the waters.

And as I said before, when you are at work you are on the company's dime. And a vast majority of companies don't want complaints about political slogans regardless of what they are. So they blanket ban them all, as they should.

Check your work handbook. I guarantee you they have a rule about political or controversial slogans at work.

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Good time to lose your job

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E32005 posted...

Katharina Baskin

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Hey: Target will not let you wear a BLM mask.

Cancel em! Go geet em!

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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

A better comparison would be someone wearing an "All Lives Matter" or "Blue Lives Matter" mask, not a MAGA mask.

If BLM isn't a political movement and is just about stopping people from being unnecessarily killed, then "All Lives Matter" or "Blue Lives Matter" has to fall under the same definition.

All lives matter is nothing but a protest of black lives matter. They don't say shit when someone is killed by the police that isn't a person of color beyond "well where's blm at now". They can get fucked.

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Restaurants are allowed to have dress codes. Not sure what the big deal is

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Makeveli_lives posted...

All lives matter is nothing but a protest of black lives matter

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LivingLegend posted...

BLM is not political.

Yes it is. It shouldn't be, but it is since it's necessity was brought about due to systemic racism.

BLM is very political, but more importantly, super correct and everyone should agree with it. The people who do not should not be given respect and should be shunned.

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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

BLM is very political, but more importantly, super correct and everyone should agree with it. The people who do not should not be given respect and should be shunned.

Blm is a civil rights movement and if youre against it youre pretty ignorant

That's the first time I've been accused of baiting, but I'm still right.

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Dathrowed1 posted...

Attitudes like this make BLM come across like religion

Not giving my business to someone who doesnt support civil rights makes the movement sound like a religion?

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HaVeNII7 posted...

I would love to hear anyones argument for how Black Lives Matter is political. Its a statement that simply claims we need to all be treated equally.

How is that political?

ALL of us treated equally as long as we're black right?

EricDraven59 posted...

Yes, all of your posts in this topic are low quality bait.

And anyone who says BLM is a political statement is automatically a joke poster and not worthy of anyones time or actual effort.
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BeantownHero posted...

Not giving my business to someone who doesnt support civil rights makes the movement sound like a religion?

If it was just that no. But as we've seen here and for many other business if you dont bend the knee for BLM and what they believe in you end up on national news, ridiculed, and with protestors out your door demanding you do.

And based on last year shenanigans I hope it ends there.

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I'm not sure how I feel about this.

On one hand, I support the server's right to show support to a noble cause and her willingness to leave when told it conflicted with the company's dress code. On the other hand, I support a restaurant's right to remain strictly neutral.

And while it shouldn't be a political issue, wearing a Black Lives Matter mask is absolutely tantamount to wearing a Biden 2020 mask. If I were a manager, I wouldn't want the inevitability of a totally-not-bigoted patron getting mad at the server and making a scene.

Considering this restaurant got canceled, I don't think restaurants collectively are going to be allowed to remain neutral zones any longer. If they don't want any social or political messages, maybe they should have it in the dress code that the masks must be "without text."

It is reasonable for a business to not get into the political shitshow.

HaVeNII7 posted...

I would love to hear anyones argument for how Black Lives Matter is political. Its a statement that simply claims we need to all be treated equally.

How is that political?

Black Lives Matter is not an inherently political statement, but the phrase has become synonymous with the activist group of the same name. And that's part of the problem.

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Good. They should all go burn in hell. Next.

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Target does not allow team members to wear BLM masks. Cancel them.

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FortuneCookie posted...

And while it shouldn't be a political issue, wearing a Black Lives Matter mask is absolutely tantamount to wearing a Biden 2020 mask.

Yeah people like to act like they don't get this, but it is absolutely the case

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HaVeNII7 posted...

I would love to hear anyones argument for how Black Lives Matter is political. Its a statement that simply claims we need to all be treated equally.

How is that political?

I'd like to hear anyone's argument for how Make America Great Again is political. It's a statement that simply claims we want to make our wonderful country great.

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HHH is the game posted...

I'd like to hear anyone's argument for how Make America Great Again is political. It's a statement that simply claims we want to make our wonderful country great.

Considering it was a political slogan specifically created for a presidential campaign....I'm not sure your argument is going the way you want it.

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what a little toad. hope she never finds employment again.

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Man, look at all the racist garbage in this topic

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No political messaging is pretty standard dress code for most businesses. Restaurant didnt do anything wrong

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HHH is the game posted...

I'd like to hear anyone's argument for how Make America Great Again is political. It's a statement that simply claims we want to make our wonderful country great.

Bruh

It was created to be used as a slogan for the Republican Party during the 2016 election.

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Wow the whole place had to close? Sucks for the other employees.

I was told this is just the free market at work. We shouldn't have discrimination laws because the invisible hand of capitalism will shut down businesses that the public deem no longer worth supporting.

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hockeybub89 posted...

I was told this is just the free market at work. We shouldn't have discrimination laws because the invisible hand of capitalism will shut down businesses that the public deem no longer worth supporting.

Don't you get it, to racist pieces of shit this is unfair reaction by woke cancel culture!

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Honestly if I ran a business with the current political climate in the US, I would give any employee wearing anything political a warning, and if it wasn't abided suspend them. Fire after. Even the most benign statements can turn in to a huge visible-from-space tire fire with how things are here right now.

Job time is for job. You can legitimately spend the rest of the day for your political views if you want to, don't fuck up everyone else's livelihood to make a statement.

Granted if it was the only mask they had available I'd abide that nowadays, would rather deal with that than covid.

Im going to take a stab at explaining how its political. BLM is an activist group that wishes to enact change in police. Police work for the government. Thus political.

Now with that said I don't have a problem with BLM. A cop should face harsh punishment if proven to have wrongfully killed someone due to racism. Should be punished period for wrongful deaths but i feel race motivated ones are worse for numerous reasons. Its just being a shit person and furthermore can cause major problems like riots.

Shit makes me mad. Ive been chewed out for not using force at work when I just felt it was a petty enough issue it wasnt worth risking anyone getting hurt over. Me co workers and hell the inmates themselves. My main goal is everyone that is alive and well when I walk in of a day is alive and well when I leave.

But point is a company wants to have a dress code blanket banning certian things thats their call. If they allowed a all live matter or back the blue mask then id see the issue. Use those examples cause i feel MAGA comparisons where apples and oranges kinda argument

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This is essentially why most larger companies have strictly defined dress codes: no images, no graphics, no writing of any kind.

It avoids messy issues of 'employee wants to broadcast statement', 'business doesn't want to turn away potential customers which might not agree with or want to see statement', 'Twitter howls at business until it closes its doors'.

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