Poll of the Day > WandaVision Discussion Topic.

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Mead posted...

there are two more episodes upcoming

I know.

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

I know.

oh cool, I just misunderstood your post then

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oh fuck dude

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That was such a good episode. I went to look at ign's review and they gave it a 6. Lol

GunslingerGunsl posted...

That was such a good episode. I went to look at ign's review and they gave it a 6. Lol

wtf?

it had too much water

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So Hayward really has not been honest with anyone until now?

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It really makes you feel like Scarlet Witch.

Does the vision Android have a dick?

or is he basically a giant Ken doll with red skin and a gem in his forehead?

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Conner4REAL posted...

Does the vision Android have a dick?

or is he basically a giant Ken doll with red skin and a gem in his forehead?

I remember reading something that Whedon really wanted Vision to have a penis in Age of Ultron. When the concept artists drew up different visuals for him, he realized that it was a bad idea and left vision penisless.

Edit: Age of Ultram. Lol

Nichtcrawler X posted...

So Hayward really has not been honest with anyone until now?

I've been assuming for a while now that they're basically adapting at least part of this storyline:

http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/west_coast_avengers_42-45.shtml

The show as a whole actually feels like they took 3-4 of the major Scarlet Witch storylines from the comics and sort of mashed them together. Bits from the original Vision and the Scarlet Witch miniseries, the VisionQuest and Wanda going crazy storylines, the original retcon of her origins (which tied her to chaos magic, Cthon, and the Darkhold), and with the MCU version of Monica Rambeau/Captain Marvel/Photon/Pulsar/Spectrum/etc (girl's had a lot of code names)'s origin story thrown in for good measure.

As mind-blowing as the show may seem to people who've never read the comics, there doesn't actually seem to be all that many new ideas in it.
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Not not if vision has a penis but i bet Wanda recreation of him gave him one. I bet his tongue game is insane

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

As mind-blowing as the show may seem to people who've never read the comics, there doesn't actually seem to be all that many new ideas in it.

As someone who has read the comics, I have been very excited to see how this has tied all the different classic comic elements together in a new package while keeping up a sense of mystery.

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Conner4REAL posted...

Does the vision Android have a dick?

or is he basically a giant Ken doll with red skin and a gem in his forehead?

He also has limited shapeshifting or matter-rearranging abilities (he grew a cape when he was like 3 minutes old). So... ^_^

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Great episode. There were just a few minor changes that I'm gonna nitpick about.

First, I think I'm just not a fan of spoken spells in a world built around just kind of hand waving things around.

Secondly, I thought Wanda and Pietro were buried in the rubble, unable to dig free because it'd shift the bomb and rescue crews couldn't safely reach them for days. Instead, they were simply to afraid to leave because it was beeping.

Last, I guess I just assumed the Hydra mindstone experiments were more extensive and tortuous. She literally just poked it and that was it. Like, the whole thing took 10 seconds. I kind of thought she had been tested on for months to the point of breaking. Though, this was all just an assumption on my part.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

Last, I guess I just assumed the Hydra mindstone experiments were more extensive and tortuous. She literally just poked it and that was it. Like, the whole thing took 10 seconds. I kind of thought she had been tested on for months to the point of breaking. Though, this was all just an assumption on my part.

they still could have been, we only saw the first thing. undoubtedly hydra is going to want to do more experiments on her since she was the only person to come into contact with it and not die.

and I guess her brother, they didn't explain that.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

As someone who has read the comics, I have been very excited to see how this has tied all the different classic comic elements together in a new package while keeping up a sense of mystery.

Oh, I'm not saying it can't be good, or that they can't handle things in interesting or unexpected ways. More just the fact that it feels like all the various puzzle pieces are things they took right out of the comics rather than anything they specifically came up with originally for the show.

It's why people have been predicting the whole Agnes = Agatha thing almost from the beginning, and why people are still wondering whether or not Mephisto might wind up being involved in some way at some point. Because those are elements of her story that were written 30+ years ago.

If anything, trying to predict/decipher which of the original stories they're drawing ideas from can be kind of interesting in its own right, especially when it allows you to predict what might happen next (or fools you into thinking you know what comes next, only to have them zig when you expected them to zag).

Because the underlying theme of the show seems to involve the concept of grief and working through it, I tend to suspect the show ends with the Vision permanently dead and never coming back rather than having him come back as a lesser thing or completely restored, and Wanda finally having to come to term with that and saying "goodbye" to him... which then segues into Wanda's appearance in Doctor Strange. But I could be wrong.
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I think a lot of people expected Shuri to have backed up part of Vision's brain during Infinity War but that seems to be unlikely now lol

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Visions brain is the Mind Stone, I don't think you can just plug a USB into it and move it onto your phone.

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he's a computer, you can back up data just fine.

also she was literally removing the mind stone from him, in a way that would keep him the same. so yes, it's possible.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Visions brain is the Mind Stone, I don't think you can just plug a USB into it and move it onto your phone.

Wrong.

Bruce: "Your mind is made up of a complex construct of overlays. J.A.R.V.I.S., Ultron, Tony, me, the Stone. All of them mixed together. All of them learning from one another."

Wanda: "You're saying Vision isn't just the stone?"

Bruce: "I'm saying that if we take out the stone, there's still a whole lot of Vision left. Perhaps the best parts."

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Okay yeah I'm sure Shuri will show up next episode and set up Black Panther 4

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Because the underlying theme of the show seems to involve the concept of grief and working through it, I tend to suspect the show ends with the Vision permanently dead and never coming back rather than having him come back as a lesser thing or completely restored, and Wanda finally having to come to term with that and saying "goodbye" to him... which then segues into Wanda's appearance in Doctor Strange. But I could be wrong.

I am reminded of this anime I watched once back in college, as I see comments like this regarding this show. What was it...? *Goes digging*

Magical Shopping Arcade: Abenobashi. Basically the main kids are dimension hopping, but really it's the boy trying to escape the reality and grief about his grandfather, and so hijinks ensue every episode with any number of new themes until the main protagonist is left to face reality at last.

I totally had to re-acquire my Anime List details, after so very long, to find that since none of my search engines were helping me. Now to forget about that site again...

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I really didn't like the ending of this episode, though I can't seem to articulate why. I can understand giving it a six

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DrPrimemaster posted...

I really didn't like the ending of this episode, though I can't seem to articulate why. I can understand giving it a six

Though the episode was really well done, the bulk of it was telling us what we already knew or could easily guess, retconning Wanda's backstory, or giving really simple answers to the various mysteries brought up by the show. And seems to set up the last episode to be a big punch up.

I think people who were expecting something a lot "meatier" were always going to be disappointed.

Idk if those were the reasons behind the review cause lol I'm not gonna read that shit, but those are my guesses.

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The nothing new angle makes sense. I had a huge "that's it" feeling at the end.

Also I thought the second vision was incredibly stupid.

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White Vision is a cool nod to the fans

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"the fans" would literally watch a two hour clip of Wanda eating her own excrement, if it was a reference to some alternate universe time travel story published in 1866 on the back of a cereal box

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Well yeah that's my fetish

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Oh the new episode was really good and very sad. I don't know what the witchy neighbor is trying to do though? Like is she here to shut her power down? Take it for herself? Kill her? Or does she just enjoy poking the hornet's nest for her own amusement?

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

Oh the new episode was really good and very sad. I don't know what the witchy neighbor is trying to do though? Like is she here to shut her power down? Take it for herself? Kill her? Or does she just enjoy poking the hornet's nest for her own amusement?

The impression I get is that she was attracted to the magic and is trying to steal it somehow. But the mechanics of that are not super clear.

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

Oh the new episode was really good and very sad. I don't know what the witchy neighbor is trying to do though? Like is she here to shut her power down? Take it for herself? Kill her? Or does she just enjoy poking the hornet's nest for her own amusement?

Seems like she wants to somehow get power on the same level as Wanda's but Wanda doesn't even seem to understand her powers fully.

It seems Wanda's powers are that powerful because the mind stone literally amplified her innate abilities, which as we saw, were already powers Wanda never fully grasped when she was young. She stopped that bomb from blowing up for 2 days and never even realised it. When she was grieving it may have subconsciously unleashed that power to protect herself. That's just how it seems from Episode 8.

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We're still not sure if Wanda's "baby" powers stopped the bomb or if it was really a dud. The former is what Agatha thinks, but Wanda clearly still believes the latter.

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

We're still not sure if Wanda's "baby" powers stopped the bomb or if it was really a dud. The former is what Agatha thinks, but Wanda clearly still believes the latter.

I don't think they would imply it if it wasn't the case. It doesn't make sense narratively to do that.

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It's also a Stark Industry bomb. I doubt it was a dud but we definitely don't know.

I'm inclinee to believe Wanda stopped it but that may not be the case.

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I liked the episode! Seeing some of the things they talked about in Age of Ultron is kinda weird because it seemed much more bleak when it was told. Seeing it unfold was kinda... eh? The new scenes that wouldn't fit in the movies of Wanda and Vision bonding were great!

And the episode answered questions I had about the kids somehow forming out of thin air. LAW OF EQUIVALENT EXCHANGE, WANDA!

I don't read comics though, so my only experience with Wanda before the MCU was when she was a goth chick in X-Men Evolution. And I had no clue what she did in that show except give people bad luck.

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DrPrimemaster posted...

Also I thought the second vision was incredibly stupid.

Metalsonic66 posted...

White Vision is a cool nod to the fans

http://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/4/44/West_Coast_Avengers_Vol_2_45.jpg

Like I said, a lot of this show is straight out of the old comics. Even more so (much more so) than the movies have been.



Blightzkrieg posted...

"the fans" would literally watch a two hour clip of Wanda eating her own excrement, if it was a reference to some alternate universe time travel story published in 1866 on the back of a cereal box

You're confused. "The fans" are the ones who hate literally everything, ever, because it isn't enough like the comics. And then if they make a film that is exactly like the comics in every possible way, they'll complain because it didn't do anything new.

"The fans" thrive on hate. Whether you're talking comic books or adaptations of novels, cartoons, video games, or pretty much any property, the most hardcore fans of the original thing are going to be the loudest voices screaming how much the new thing sucks.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

You're confused. "The fans" are the ones who hate literally everything, ever, because it isn't enough like the comics. And then if they make a film that is exactly like the comics in every possible way, they'll complain because it didn't do anything new.

"The fans" thrive on hate. Whether you're talking comic books or adaptations of novels, cartoons, video games, or pretty much any property, the most hardcore fans of the original thing are going to be the loudest voices screaming how much the new thing sucks.

But they'll still fucking watch it, which is my point

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i feel like the next episode, the last episode, is going to have too much going on to properly end the series for a half hour episode

which falls perfectly in line for when i said that the show is a lead-in to several movies and wont have a proper conclusion.

i was already right about the show being designed to be binged, bet i'm completely right about this, too

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqiCupy8eI

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helIy posted...

i feel like the next episode, the last episode, is going to have too much going on to properly end the series for a half hour episode

which falls perfectly in line for when i said that the show is a lead-in to several movies and wont have a proper conclusion.

i was already right about the show being designed to be binged, bet i'm completely right about this, too

If you're the one that gets to decide when you're right, is there ever a time when you've been wrong?

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helIy posted...

i feel like the next episode, the last episode, is going to have too much going on to properly end the series for a half hour episode

which falls perfectly in line for when i said that the show is a lead-in to several movies and wont have a proper conclusion.

i was already right about the show being designed to be binged, bet i'm completely right about this, too

We pretty much know it's suppose to lead into Doctor Strange 2 so you're basically taking the safe bet and going to claim you called it?

Okay. We've known this since before it released and while technically I don't think it's confirmed, no one's gonna be surprised if this happens.

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Final Fantasy2389 posted...

We pretty much know it's suppose to lead into Doctor Strange 2 so you're basically taking the safe bet and going to claim you called it?

Okay. We've known this since before it released and while technically I don't think it's confirmed, no one's gonna be surprised if this happens.

given the several people here who vehemently argued against what i said, yes, i am going to claim that i called it

i am that petty.

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helIy posted...

yeah, it's a good number when you consider that its main purpose is to set up the stories for a few movies

Yeah, and you're still wrong lol

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i'm not though

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I would argue that any content that doesn't spend time recapping previous episodes or doesn't have cuts to commercials, and episodes can be watched in succession is a show made to be binged.

In a way, WandaVision does not meet any of those criteria if you factor in it has it's own commercial breaks. The whole premise of the show alludes to a time before binge watching was a thing, and generally follows that traditional format.

and yet everything it has parodied has been made more notable by the fact they've all been added to streaming services to be binge watched.

they even did the office.

one of the most binge watched tv shows in existence at this point.

not to mention that netflix series that are also specifically designed to be binged, also do episode recaps.

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helIy posted...

i'm not though

Put on your thinking cap

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Okay yeah I'm sure Shuri will show up next episode and set up Black Panther 4

Nah fam she got cancelled

Metalsonic66 posted...

White Vision is a cool nod to the fans

Don't be fuckin racist dude

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