Current Events > So Far 198 republican reps voted NO on impeachment

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shills gonna shill

pathetic

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Censure them

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looking like it will be a totally partisan split. I'm a little surprised I thought at least one R would think clearly

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Doe posted...

looking like it will be a totally partisan split. I'm a little surprised I thought at least one R would think clearly

Then you dont really understand politics. It will always be party > policy.

Didn't mean this to be insulting by the way. Its just how this country will always operate.

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This isn't the actual vote
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only 8 repubs left to save some sort of moral accountability


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Imagine being attacked by a mob of terrorists and then defending their leader when you're the only one with authority to remove them.

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Doe posted...

looking like it will be a totally partisan split. I'm a little surprised I thought at least one R would think clearly

At least five have
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1349311449664004098?s=19

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five signals =/= five votes

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

This isn't the actual vote

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

This isn't the actual vote

what is it for?

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They are all cowards

E32005 posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

This isn't the actual vote

what is it for?

It's a procedural vote regarding debate.

Specifically, I believe it was a vote to skip an investigative process and go straight to debate
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E32005 posted...

what is it for?

It's for the articles of impeachment.

The actual vote to convict won't start until January 19.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

It's for the articles of impeachment.

The actual vote to convict won't start until January 19.

well thats a cock tease

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Undoubtedly theyre scared of their own constituents and their potential for violence.

Which is profoundly fucked up and a sure sign of fascisms grip tightening on the throat of America.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

It's for the articles of impeachment.

The actual vote to convict won't start until January 19.

And Senate republicans are absolutely not going to do it because like their house counterparts they also believe the election was stolen, that the terrorists were antifa and nah, just kidding, they don't believe any of that, they're doing it because "Fuck liberals" and "We republicans cannot have an impeached and removed president on our record" but of course when questioned they will say that bullshit or make themselves out to be hostage victims afraid of the MAGAmob doing stuff to their families if they voted for conviction.

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KronoCloud posted...

Undoubtedly theyre scared of their own constituents and their potential for violence.

Which is profoundly fucked up and a sure sign of fascisms grip tightening on the throat of America.

This, there was a reddit post earlier that there were talk among Republican's being scared to vote for impeachment because they are worried that they will get killed by Trump Supporters... SMH

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it's a no from me too dawg.

Jiggy101011 posted...

Then you dont really understand politics. It will always be party > policy.

Didn't mean this to be insulting by the way. Its just how this country will always operate.

But in this case its not putting the party first. Distancing yourself from Trump would be putting the party first.

This is hurting the party.

Of course I guess I shouldn't be surprised these dumbfuck shit for brains Republicans couldn't figure that out.

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Fuckin A, I really thought things would change. Fuck biden for trying to placate these assholes. Bidens a piece of shit too for saying we need them. If they can't vote out a obviously fuckim dangerous president, even to just make a moral fuckin stand. We dont need the Republican party. It needs to dye. Democrats should be our right leaning group if we need two and progressives should be our left leaning group. But of course america is just straight fucked.

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question for you guys. whats the point?

i think i know what the point is, it's for the principle. he did something wrong so he should be impeached for it. and he needs the title for being impeached twice. but effectively it seems pointless since he's gone in a week.

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It's a waste of time, as usual

pojr posted...

question for you guys. whats the point?

i think i know what the point is, it's for the principle. he did something wrong so he should be impeached for it. and he needs the title for being impeached twice. but effectively it seems pointless since he's gone in a week.

Because consequences on the table include:

No Secret Service detail, therefore no further tax payer money going into his properties as they have for the last 5 years.

No pension, so less tax payer money again.

No future bids for office, thereby reducing political capital.

However, even with that in mind, the principle of holding him accountable for this madness and stupidity is worthwhile on its own.

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pojr posted...

question for you guys. whats the point?

i think i know what the point is, it's for the principle. he did something wrong so he should be impeached for it. and he needs the title for being impeached twice. but effectively it seems pointless since he's gone in a week.

And so he isn't getting over a million a year in tax payer money till he dies and so history says someone actually held the fat orange fuck accountable. And to land a blow to his ego.

There's a lot of reasons for it if you take a second to think about it.

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pojr posted...

question for you guys. whats the point?

i think i know what the point is, it's for the principle. he did something wrong so he should be impeached for it. and he needs the title for being impeached twice. but effectively it seems pointless since he's gone in a week.

A line needs to be drawn somewhere on how far the President's powers can extend. If the impeachment doesn't happen then it tells future presidents that actions like what happened last Wednesday can go unpunished. Plus a successful impeachment will prevent Trump from ever running for office again which everyone should strongly desire.

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holy fudge the guy speaking right now for the impeachment hearing has the same hair style as Trump, hair combed forward from the back to cover the front XD

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E32005 posted...

shills gonna shill

pathetic

their guy could be captured in video having sex with their wives and mothers at the same time and they would still kiss his feet

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yutterh posted...

We dont need the Republican party. It needs to dye.

what color are you thinking?

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Did people forget the Supreme Court vote already. If it benefits Republicans they will vote for it. If it doesn't they wont. The other side does the same. It just the way politics is in US. Bipartisan support is rare.

I think last thing they agreed on was that 700 billion military spending.

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TheHoldSteady posted...

what color are you thinking?

uhhh, red?

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only have a week to go with this shit. trump smashing shit on his way out too.
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BlueTigerLion posted...

Did people forget the Supreme Court vote already. If it benefits Republicans they will vote for it. If it doesn't they wont. The other side does the same. It just the way politics is in US. Bipartisan support is rare.

I think last thing they agreed on was that 700 billion military spending.

the Great American Outdoors Act was a pretty recent example

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pojr posted...

question for you guys. whats the point?

i think i know what the point is, it's for the principle. he did something wrong so he should be impeached for it. and he needs the title for being impeached twice. but effectively it seems pointless since he's gone in a week.

From USA Today Article:

Trump will be the beneficiary of a number of taxpayer-financed benefits that could be wiped out if he were impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate.
Gone would be the $200,000 a year stipend.
Gone would be the possibility of a $1 million a year travel budget.
Gone would be taxpayer subsidies to finance his office and staff.
Gone would be the pension for the spouse of the president.

There are probably some other perks too that are not listed (like lifetime Secret Service protection) so basically it would be a little over $1.2 million a year in just cash alone.
You know he is the type to write stuff off as travel expense and will max out the $1 million budget every year.

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Should be more.

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So how do we deal with all these Republicans that are still ok with Trump? Put up with it indefinitely?

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Should be more.

Why?

Ruvan22 posted...

Why?

He is the dumbest person on the board, so I'll give ya three guesses.

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"We can't vote against fascism or those that support fascism will get upset"

Fucking disgraceful and I think it really says a lot about where America is right now. I feel for you guys, as even if Trump is impeached (and hopefully jailed) then you still have millions of people and numerous politicians who support terrorists staging a coup to overthrow democracy in your own country.

I legit don't know how you can come back from it without full condemnation of what happened.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

But in this case its not putting the party first. Distancing yourself from Trump would be putting the party first.

This is hurting the party.

Of course I guess I shouldn't be surprised these dumbfuck shit for brains Republicans couldn't figure that out.

they didnt do what I want, theyre dumb!

ThePieReborn posted...

Because consequences on the table include:

No Secret Service detail, therefore no further tax payer money going into his properties as they have for the last 5 years.

No pension, so less tax payer money again.

No future bids for office, thereby reducing political capital.

However, even with that in mind, the principle of holding him accountable for this madness and stupidity is worthwhile on its own.

This isn't completely accurate. It only applies of the president is removed. If they convict him AFTER he's gone we don't know exactly what will happen. He will most likely keep the security detail though the pension and vacation money can be revoked.

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Bleuets posted...

they didnt do what I want, theyre dumb!

0/11

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Wow...David Scott talks like he's about to croak

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All Republicans: "C'mon guys, there's only 7 days left!"

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Literally every intelligent political analyst has said it won't pass in the Senate. This is a waste of time and won't accomplish anything.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Literally every intelligent political analyst has said it won't pass in the Senate. This is a waste of time and won't accomplish anything.

Ur right there should be no consequences for inciting a coup I never thought of it that way

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DEKMStephens posted...

Ur right there should be no consequences for inciting a coup I never thought of it that way

Reality really is much easier when you just support terrorists!

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Tyranthraxus posted...

This isn't completely accurate. It only applies of the president is removed. If they convict him AFTER he's gone we don't know exactly what will happen. He will most likely keep the security detail though the pension and vacation money can be revoked.

There's related (obviously not perfectly on point) historical precedent in the impeachments and subsequent trials of William Belknap and federal judge West Hughes Humphries.

Congress historically has defined its own jurisdiction here.

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DEKMStephens posted...

Ur right there should be no consequences for inciting a coup I never thought of it that way

There will be no consequences because the Impeachment won't make it past the senate, so what is your point exactly? The Government should just waste time and money on a political stunt which won't actually punish anyone because...?

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

DEKMStephens posted...

Ur right there should be no consequences for inciting a coup I never thought of it that way

There will be no consequences because the Impeachment won't make it past the senate, so what is your point exactly? The Government should just waste time and money...

Do you think Congress is paid by the hour?
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