Current Events > Gacha Game General Topic 13: ''Redeemed in the second arc of the story''

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Wait they've had reruns?

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The arena in Priconne has been extra brutal lately for some reason. Been increasing my party power with a couple new units and yet I'm still getting rekt by players with 1k or so party power below me.

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33.9% on Hiryuu Meta so far after today. Operation Siren is decent filler so far but I'm not interested in clearing the maps, just getting enough points to challenge Hiryuu.

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I am pleased. I got Enterprise, the manifestation of Eagle Union lol. Now I have someone good to toss into the hodgepodge EU experience grabbing fleet. Which is at 65% of the million goal BTW :3

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Galbias posted...

also I've been trying to get Xiangling but the enemies on floor 3 of Spiral Abyss are super tanky to my lv 30-40 party with lv 40 weapons. Guess I need to grind more AR so I can upgrade them further.

I actually got Xiangling first from pulling on the first released banner lol, though i did use her a fair bit before actually getting her drop from Spiral. That being said getting up to where you can comfortably beat that Abyss level shouldn't take too long either.

yep, the mage dudes are pretty bonkers. I E2'd Nightingale since she's one of the few characters that helps against mages and it barely feels like it made a difference.

Don't forget to also use her cage lures if you're going to trigger a few at once, they'll last pretty long under her S3
I think most of the time I ended up picking them off one at a time, including in the mini-annihilation map

I'm slightly uncomfortable with how bad the last group of stages is no doubt going to be now lol

Amusingly this event was supposed to be before Twilight, which was generally regarded as the hardest event released thus far
On the other hand from what I've seen the the events coming after are toned down a fair bit in terms of difficulty so there's that

Galbias posted...

Might have to try ringing out but I'm also trying to rush ar25 regardless. Though it seems like farming lv 50 Ascension materials is gonna be a challenge in its own right...I dunno, too many things to try and do.

Yeah it's kinda grindy for an action RPG lol, which is I guess fine if you want a main game but not being able to just autopilot the dailies has kinda made me ease up on playing aside from peeking in when a new event drops

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I just let Blaze shred the mage dudes lol

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re Genshin, I have mixed feelings on Dragonspire. The cold element is a pretty neat idea and adds an extra element to exploration...but it also has a nasty habit of placing bosses or minibosses away from heat sources, and then making them regenerate their entire health bar and shield when you go away to defrost yourself, this has happened a couple of times now. Some of the puzzles are really obtuse too, I got stuck on one only to realize that there was a wall you had to bomb with Amber. Also apparently I've barely made much progress on the actual event itself, despite spending like probably 4-5 hours in the area.

Still not sure how I'm supposed to get the Princess's Box, idk if I can burst through 3 Abyss Mages in 60 seconds while taking a bunch of cold damage.

Meultima posted...

I actually got Xiangling first from pulling on the first released banner lol, though i did use her a fair bit before actually getting her drop from Spiral. That being said getting up to where you can comfortably beat that Abyss level shouldn't take too long either.

Don't forget to also use her cage lures if you're going to trigger a few at once, they'll last pretty long under her S3
I think most of the time I ended up picking them off one at a time, including in the mini-annihilation map

Amusingly this event was supposed to be before Twilight, which was generally regarded as the hardest event released thus far
On the other hand from what I've seen the the events coming after are toned down a fair bit in terms of difficulty so there's that

Yeah it's kinda grindy for an action RPG lol, which is I guess fine if you want a main game but not being able to just autopilot the dailies has kinda made me ease up on playing aside from peeking in when a new event drops

yeah, I'm getting the uncaps to lv 50 done, just need a couple day-restricted items for weapons now, then I'll give Abyss another shot. Though I've heard she may be on Ganyu's banner so I have a decent chance of rolling her there.

Nightingale's cage lures sort of help, though the super mages hit two targets so at least one character is still getting hit. I've been using s2 since most of the stages are based on luring out the mages one at a time, using a burst skill like her s3 usually doesn't work (it won't save you from 4+ mages at once).

Mostly though I just want my Weedy/W banner already. I haven't pulled a new character worth using in quite literally months, I've just been building up a huge stockpile of most resources without being able to spend them on anything.

Wait, I actually do have a question about that Motoko summon banner now (the one that needs those book currency things). So you'll always get her there? Since each pull can get you 10 book things, that means that when you do 30 and get enough for one banner pull, you can get her?

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Wait they've had reruns?

Yes, Devil May Cry and Bayonetta have had a second run so far.
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Wait, I actually do have a question about that Motoko summon banner now (the one that needs those book currency things). So you'll always get her there? Since each pull can get you 10 book things, that means that when you do 30 and get enough for one banner pull, you can get her?

That's the idea behind the codexes, yeah. It's basically like "sparking" in other gacha. XYZ number of summons guarantees the unit you actually wanted. (Archetypes are another matter when it comes to SMT, but that's easy enough to change later.)

The previous collabs had the same thing (tomes/particles/etc), and I want to say event summon tokens like that carry over as well, but I don't have any on me because I always blew 'em when I had enough. >_>

I do have them for other non-collab banners though (like the Dimensional banner going on right now), so that's why I assume they all work that way. I mean, would be kind of a dick move to get 290 only to have them disappear once the event ends, right? Of course, you could be staring at a pile you can't use for a while because there's no telling when they'll bring the event back so you can get those last few codexes.
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Fuck I missed the rerun for the other two collabs I wanted <_<

I started playing during the DMC but then kinda gave up :(

Also I wish they had used DMC 4 Nero (I know it was a DMC 5 collab, but...) :<

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Galbias posted...

re Genshin, I have mixed feelings on Dragonspire. The cold element is a pretty neat idea and adds an extra element to exploration...but it also has a nasty habit of placing bosses or minibosses away from heat sources, and then making them regenerate their entire health bar and shield when you go away to defrost yourself, this has happened a couple of times now. Some of the puzzles are really obtuse too, I got stuck on one only to realize that there was a wall you had to bomb with Amber. Also apparently I've barely made much progress on the actual event itself, despite spending like probably 4-5 hours in the area.
Still not sure how I'm supposed to get the Princess's Box, idk if I can burst through 3 Abyss Mages in 60 seconds while taking a bunch of cold damage.

Yeah the area itself is pretty much the most hostile general area released in the game thus far so you'll probably have a rough go at it until you at least get a stronger fire DPS; also especially with the Abyss Mages since their shields take forever to whittle down outside of a series of strong elemental burst reactions (Water ones especially are still kinda a pain for me because I can't be bothered to build Kaeya lol). I did kinda just stumble into the trio of Abyss Mages around the Princess Box and took them out quickly enough but not before getting into frosbite status, though the actual periodic damage from frostbite doesn't seem too bad if you have a lot of healing at least, or maybe it's because my main party is already over L70

yeah, I'm getting the uncaps to lv 50 done, just need a couple day-restricted items for weapons now, then I'll give Abyss another shot. Though I've heard she may be on Ganyu's banner so I have a decent chance of rolling her there.

Keep in mind not to ascend too fast either, after a point there's a rather noticeable difficulty jump where enemies start to require better equipment loadouts to keep up; I'd say that point is around World Rank 4.

Nightingale's cage lures sort of help, though the super mages hit two targets so at least one character is still getting hit. I've been using s2 since most of the stages are based on luring out the mages one at a time, using a burst skill like her s3 usually doesn't work (it won't save you from 4+ mages at once).

Well mostly you'd pair the cages with Specter S2 for max stall while you fire off your biggest burst DPS but even then it's definitely a bit tricky to pull off. It's also possible to put down two cages in advance but the first cage will be on low HP by the time the second drops.

Mostly though I just want my Weedy/W banner already. I haven't pulled a new character worth using in quite literally months, I've just been building up a huge stockpile of most resources without being able to spend them on anything.

rip, hopefully your luck gets better this time.
Probably the one really good thing I can say about Genshin's gacha is the banner guarantee for every second 5-star you pull on the seasonal banner lol
On that note I've also pulled Keqing as my second 5-star from the standard banner, but while she seems actually decently fun I really need a good set of artifacts for her to get her up to par with the rest of my main party, and I'm pretty much all out, which means more random Elite mob grinding
Artifact gating is suffering dayo

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Shit, only now I noticed that it says I need Eagle Union VANGUARD experience. Does that mean theres not really any point in putting EU ships like Enterprise in the main fleet if I have properly leveled alternatives?

Also, I got Motoko :3

There may have been some money spent, but hey, Christmas money more than covered it lol. Kinda sad I didnt get the red one though. Funny that its considered the worst archetype for her though, since purple (the one I got) is best for PvE and the other two non-red are best for PvP lol

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Meultima posted...

Yeah the area itself is pretty much the most hostile general area released in the game thus far so you'll probably have a rough go at it until you at least get a stronger fire DPS; also especially with the Abyss Mages since their shields take forever to whittle down outside of a series of strong elemental burst reactions (Water ones especially are still kinda a pain for me because I can't be bothered to build Kaeya lol). I did kinda just stumble into the trio of Abyss Mages around the Princess Box and took them out quickly enough but not before getting into frosbite status, though the actual periodic damage from frostbite doesn't seem too bad if you have a lot of healing at least, or maybe it's because my main party is already over L70

Keep in mind not to ascend too fast either, after a point there's a rather noticeable difficulty jump where enemies start to require better equipment loadouts to keep up; I'd say that point is around World Rank 4.

Well mostly you'd pair the cages with Specter S2 for max stall while you fire off your biggest burst DPS but even then it's definitely a bit tricky to pull off. It's also possible to put down two cages in advance but the first cage will be on low HP by the time the second drops.

rip, hopefully your luck gets better this time.
Probably the one really good thing I can say about Genshin's gacha is the banner guarantee for every second 5-star you pull on the seasonal banner lol
On that note I've also pulled Keqing as my second 5-star from the standard banner, but while she seems actually decently fun I really need a good set of artifacts for her to get her up to par with the rest of my main party, and I'm pretty much all out, which means more random Elite mob grinding
Artifact gating is suffering dayo

getting Xiangling helped in general, it's nice having a non-meme Pyro character though she's kind of terrible at lighting torches because her bear will sometimes just decide to face another direction. For whatever reason it seemed to get better after making this post, I haven't run into many more bosses away from torches and the ones that did had the decency to not magically regenerate all of their health. The area around the peak was pretty neat too.

also I'd kind of forgotten about food buffs when doing the time-limited fight, that made it a lot easier

The game did start giving out ways of helping with the cold, but they only really become accessible after you've been exploring for awhile (especially the one that requires 40 Agate) so it doesn't make much of a difference in practice.

I kinda want to get my AR high quickly since it seems to lock a lot of stuff but idk, I also don't want to play too much before I get Ganyu lol

And yeah, the lack of a consistent pity system is one thing I really dislike about Arknights. I think I ended up rolling 70-some times on Blaze and 100-some times on Bagpipe and failed to get either. At least I'm about as prepared as I can be for Weedy/W, I had about 150 rolls last time I checked.

Future banners are weird, Surtr/Thorns look pretty strong but I don't really want them from a character standpoint, Blemishine is cute but doesn't look that relevant, Eunuctus/Mountain are w/e, and Rosmontis/Mudrock look great and I definitely want them but I guess that's to be expected of limited banners.

YugiNoob posted...

Shit, only now I noticed that it says I need Eagle Union VANGUARD experience. Does that mean theres not really any point in putting EU ships like Enterprise in the main fleet if I have properly leveled alternatives?

Thats right. Only the ones that fit the requirement contribute in anyway.

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also i like how I've coincidentally ended up saving up for banners that are all happening in the next month in the 3 gacha games I'm playing

-Ganyu banner in Genshin
-Weedy/W banner in Arknights
-Granblue's New Years roulette banners (potentially both of them)

Galbias posted...

getting Xiangling helped in general, it's nice having a non-meme Pyro character though she's kind of terrible at lighting torches because her bear will sometimes just decide to face another direction.

You could try using an anemo reaction to create a larger AoE in those instances but yeah her Goba can be finicky

For whatever reason it seemed to get better after making this post, I haven't run into many more bosses away from torches and the ones that did had the decency to not magically regenerate all of their health. The area around the peak was pretty neat too.

also I'd kind of forgotten about food buffs when doing the time-limited fight, that made it a lot easier

The game did start giving out ways of helping with the cold, but they only really become accessible after you've been exploring for awhile (especially the one that requires 40 Agate) so it doesn't make much of a difference in practice.

To be fair it's also a fairly small area despite them hyping it as a new area but I guess it's just the right size for being the relevant location for a couple-week long event. It's also nice that the grinding for the first event currency doesn't need resin compared to the previous event and the general spawn area of the grind locations are fairly near to each other

I kinda want to get my AR high quickly since it seems to lock a lot of stuff but idk, I also don't want to play too much before I get Ganyu lol

And yeah, the lack of a consistent pity system is one thing I really dislike about Arknights. I think I ended up rolling 70-some times on Blaze and 100-some times on Bagpipe and failed to get either. At least I'm about as prepared as I can be for Weedy/W, I had about 150 rolls last time I checked.

Well AR mostly just gates some main story progression and domains so it's actually easy to see where to pace yourself; though to be fair I think aside from WR 4 there's not really anything you need to watch out for. Speaking of I really want to get a good Cryo on my team but I'm not really personally sold on Ganyu overall as opposed to Qiqi even though I played through the parts of the story she appears in, on the other hand a Qiqi rate-up banner seems kinda unlikely since she's not a limited, gacha is pain peko

Future banners are weird, Surtr/Thorns look pretty strong but I don't really want them from a character standpoint, Blemishine is cute but doesn't look that relevant, Eunuctus/Mountain are w/e, and Rosmontis/Mudrock look great and I definitely want them but I guess that's to be expected of limited banners.

I'm interested in Surtr just because she seems to enable a lot of fire-and-forget strategies thanks to being an obscenely overpowered helidrop operator haha, plus I think she looks fairly cool personally. I think the new ones I'm most interested in would be Weedy/Mudrock/Surtr/Rosmontis. Eunectes I'm mostly just amused at her big skill being summoning a tractor mech piloted by Rio lol
Galbias posted...

also i like how I've coincidentally ended up saving up for banners that are all happening in the next month in the 3 gacha games I'm playing

-Ganyu banner in Genshin
-Weedy/W banner in Arknights
-Granblue's New Years roulette banners (potentially both of them)

GBFwise I'm quite on my way to two sparks but I'm not really saving for anything in particular, just that there's not much incentive to pull before the roulettes lol
Honestly I feel like I'm just waiting for the 2021 weapon annitix to get a second FLB Majestas so I can go all in on Hades and just faceroll all the hard content with palmtree cheese because it feels like a lot of the content is super annoying in various ways these days, at least dragon/malice is kinda less dumb now being raised to 18 people raids but tiamal drop rates continue to be suffering nontheless

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Geezum crow, how much grinding do I need to do to get Cyber Aethers to Awaken Motoko? Is there a better way besides just autoing the event stages?

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lol but speaking of the event, I noticed some funny typos. Like "Ms. Kusabnagi" and "dicarding" :3

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YugiNoob posted...

Also, I got Motoko :3

There may have been some money spent, but hey, Christmas money more than covered it lol. Kinda sad I didnt get the red one though. Funny that its considered the worst archetype for her though, since purple (the one I got) is best for PvE and the other two non-red are best for PvP lol

Lucky you, seems I might miss out on her this time around.

I always went for teal types myself because covering your weaknesses is an overall good thing, whereas the skills that purple/yellow/red types can give you vary in usefulness.
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Geezum crow, how much grinding do I need to do to get Cyber Aethers to Awaken Motoko? Is there a better way besides just autoing the event stages?

I think the drops are better the higher the stage and the higher the difficulty you run.
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How do you join a guild in Azur Lane? Literally every single one I tried says that the application is full or whatever :<

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Meultima posted...

You could try using an anemo reaction to create a larger AoE in those instances but yeah her Goba can be finicky
To be fair it's also a fairly small area despite them hyping it as a new area but I guess it's just the right size for being the relevant location for a couple-week long event. It's also nice that the grinding for the first event currency doesn't need resin compared to the previous event and the general spawn area of the grind locations are fairly near to each other
Well AR mostly just gates some main story progression and domains so it's actually easy to see where to pace yourself; though to be fair I think aside from WR 4 there's not really anything you need to watch out for. Speaking of I really want to get a good Cryo on my team but I'm not really personally sold on Ganyu overall as opposed to Qiqi even though I played through the parts of the story she appears in, on the other hand a Qiqi rate-up banner seems kinda unlikely since she's not a limited, gacha is pain peko
I'm interested in Surtr just because she seems to enable a lot of fire-and-forget strategies thanks to being an obscenely overpowered helidrop operator haha, plus I think she looks fairly cool personally. I think the new ones I'm most interested in would be Weedy/Mudrock/Surtr/Rosmontis. Eunectes I'm mostly just amused at her big skill being summoning a tractor mech piloted by Rio lol

GBFwise I'm quite on my way to two sparks but I'm not really saving for anything in particular, just that there's not much incentive to pull before the roulettes lol
Honestly I feel like I'm just waiting for the 2021 weapon annitix to get a second FLB Majestas so I can go all in on Hades and just faceroll all the hard content with palmtree cheese because it feels like a lot of the content is super annoying in various ways these days, at least dragon/malice is kinda less dumb now being raised to 18 people raids but tiamal drop rates continue to be suffering nontheless

oh yeah, I guess that'd work. Ganyu's skillset seems kinda mediocre honestly (but hopefully still workable), I want her 90% cause she's cute and should fit reasonably well into my current team

I think Dragonspine is a neat area overall, I like the large underground areas in particular even if they're kind of impossible to read properly on the world map.

Tiamalice has actually been really generous with the Majestas for me, but I have the small problem of no Hades summon lol (though Demi-Hades is still available). Meanwhile I've been hosting Phronesis daily since Magfes started and not a single Dark Thrasher. I do almost have enough for a Sierotix but that's likely going towards Belial, hopefully I roll one of the two during roulettes though.

Incidentally, I'm not sure Majestas would be amazingly helpful in Beelzebub due to the nature of the fight. It's not going to let you tank Chaos Legion and he can still deal very high single-target damage if he decides to hit one character multiple times. Actually, I'm not sure if Garrison updates defense during the middle of multi-hit attacks, though I guess it should.

YugiNoob posted...

How do you join a guild in Azur Lane? Literally every single one I tried says that the application is full or whatever :<

Also, is there any way to stop your fleet from moving around the map once you select a destination? I hate when I accidentally press a panel and have to see them go across the map <_<

Just have to find one that isn't full unfortunately. If you're on Avrora, the guild I'm in has a space at the moment. Search for Heavenward. Unfortunately there isn't a way to stop them from moving.

I think I'm losing interest in Priconne. I like the anime scenes and some of the characters, but it's been 8 days since I've been able to make any progress at all.

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Stagmar posted...

I think I'm losing interest in Priconne. I like the anime scenes and some of the characters, but it's been 8 days since I've been able to make any progress at all.

Keep in mind that this was a soft launch. Under normal circumstances (AKA when the game fully launches) we'd also have events and other stuff going along with the main story, so there's still stuff to do even if you're stuck. So when I hit the wall myself (I figure it's not an "if" and I know I'll hit it eventually) I'll keep playing and grinding. But if I hit a wall like this after the full launch and the events on the side aren't fun enough, then I'll drop it.
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There are technically sorta-dead periods in JP Priconne where I just sit at 999 stam and wait for the next event. Like right now, because technically the only thing going on is Clan Battle (and free daily gacha rolls that are giving me jack shit).

New Year Peco should be arriving soon though.

Eab1990 posted...

There are technically sorta-dead periods in JP Priconne where I just sit at 999 stam and wait for the next event. Like right now, because technically the only thing going on is Clan Battle (and free daily gacha rolls that are giving me jack shit).

Do you think EN will skip those dead periods and just move right into the next event the very next day? I know EN versions of other games have done that as a way to speed up the tempo and catch up to the JP version without (or alongside) shortening/skipping events on the way.
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Impossible to tell until the first event, really.

I said before that JP has condensed the first yearns events so that theyre always available and also one-and-done (aside from the daily hard mode grind), instead of boss grinding.

Calwings posted...

Keep in mind that this was a soft launch. Under normal circumstances (AKA when the game fully launches) we'd also have events and other stuff going along with the main story, so there's still stuff to do even if you're stuck. So when I hit the wall myself (I figure it's not an "if" and I know I'll hit it eventually) I'll keep playing and grinding. But if I hit a wall like this after the full launch and the events on the side aren't fun enough, then I'll drop it.

Yeah. You can't really judge the game based on the soft launch due to the intentional lack of content. Best bet is just to grind hard stages, gear, arena, levels, grotto, and dungeon until release. Sounds boring but I feel like this will help quite a bit once official launch hits and we finally get an event.

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Galbias posted...

oh yeah, I guess that'd work. Ganyu's skillset seems kinda mediocre honestly (but hopefully still workable), I want her 90% cause she's cute and should fit reasonably well into my current team

I mean for whatever reason she doesn't strike me as especially cute or anything either lol, like I guess she's alright but I dunno (Though I guess she kinda looks like Ferry which we have a similar difference of opinion about lol)

I think Dragonspine is a neat area overall, I like the large underground areas in particular even if they're kind of impossible to read properly on the world map.

It's admittedly a pretty nice area overall, though I feel like I've already explored most of what it has to offer which makes its size a bit more of a shame.

Tiamalice has actually been really generous with the Majestas for me, but I have the small problem of no Hades summon lol (though Demi-Hades is still available). Meanwhile I've been hosting Phronesis daily since Magfes started and not a single Dark Thrasher. I do almost have enough for a Sierotix but that's likely going towards Belial, hopefully I roll one of the two during roulettes though.

I'm ironically on the other opposite end of the spectrum; had two Hades/Belial/Bahamut pulls but only a single Majestas drop ever (Though this is admittedly the better side of the first world problems to be on lol) To be fair Belial doesn't seem conducive for most long content but there are some whacky Lucha burst comps for LuciHard running around these days
I do have enough for a Sierotix but there's not really anything all that great to use it on for me now, I was initially saving it for Agni but unless I get a truckload of Gangsta Knives and Dierdre Claws soon there's not a whole lot of point going Agni over Magna either
Aside from that I am still missing a few key non-Gala Dark characters (Predator/Kolulu) but using S-tix on those would be a waste

Incidentally, I'm not sure Majestas would be amazingly helpful in Beelzebub due to the nature of the fight. It's not going to let you tank Chaos Legion and he can still deal very high single-target damage if he decides to hit one character multiple times. Actually, I'm not sure if Garrison updates defense during the middle of multi-hit attacks, though I guess it should.

Well that's fair, though Bubs is generally seen as a much easier fight to cheese than Luci from what I've seen especially since Tormentor no-sells a lot of his worst phases. That aside Majestas would still typically be a best-in-slot for that sort of difficult fight anyway, I've even seen solo raid runs with frontline Zooey for starting the Garrison cheese early lol

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Meultima posted...

I mean for whatever reason she doesn't strike me as especially cute or anything either lol, like I guess she's alright but I dunno (Though I guess she kinda looks like Ferry which we have a similar difference of opinion about lol)

It's admittedly a pretty nice area overall, though I feel like I've already explored most of what it has to offer which makes its size a bit more of a shame.

I'm ironically on the other opposite end of the spectrum; had two Hades/Belial/Bahamut pulls but only a single Majestas drop ever (Though this is admittedly the better side of the first world problems to be on lol) To be fair Belial doesn't seem conducive for most long content but there are some whacky Lucha burst comps for LuciHard running around these days
I do have enough for a Sierotix but there's not really anything all that great to use it on for me now, I was initially saving it for Agni but unless I get a truckload of Gangsta Knives and Dierdre Claws soon there's not a whole lot of point going Agni over Magna either
Aside from that I am still missing a few key non-Gala Dark characters (Predator/Kolulu) but using S-tix on those would be a waste

Well that's fair, though Bubs is generally seen as a much easier fight to cheese than Luci from what I've seen especially since Tormentor no-sells a lot of his worst phases. That aside Majestas would still typically be a best-in-slot for that sort of difficult fight anyway, I've even seen solo raid runs with frontline Zooey for starting the Garrison cheese early lol

Yeah, Ganyu is basically just Ferry with horns and a somewhat modified outfit design-wise. It also helps that none of the other 5* in the game right now are really that interesting to me, 4/5 of the limited ones so far are dudes and there's no way to aim for the non-limited ones (though the only non-limiteds I really like are Keqing and Mona and I already have Mona. And technically Traveler but she's not a real 5*). I'd strongly consider rolling for Venti if they ever add a dress outfit though lol.

as far as future characters go, Hu Tao looks extremely bizarre gameplay-wise from the leaks but she's cute enough and I do really want Ayaka but who knows when she's coming.

Belial is great since the HP penalty is additive so in grids where you have a lot of HP bonuses, he barely reduces your HP at all. And the Supplemental damage can add a lot if you're working with decent multiattack/echo. I honestly think he's the most busted summon in the game, more valuable overall than Hades since he can be used in every element. Pretty good stat stick too. I'm salty I never got him on the NY banner last year even with a spark.

I'm actually not sure if I'd call Luci (assuming buncle cheese) or Bubs easier, they both require different things to succeed but neither is a cakewalk. Bubs definitely is less "your party must have X role" though which is nice. And yeah, I probably would slot a Majestas or two regardless if I was running Hades.

Agni does still have the very strong racing strat with Alanaan and S Mimlemel assuming you have enough Ixaba, but Colossus is actually pretty solid now with 5* and AES uncap so I don't feel the need to go Agni that much.

ShadowElite86 posted...

Yeah. You can't really judge the game based on the soft launch due to the intentional lack of content. Best bet is just to grind hard stages, gear, arena, levels, grotto, and dungeon until release. Sounds boring but I feel like this will help quite a bit once official launch hits and we finally get an event.

Its not really about lack of content, its that I dont feel my party is getting stronger at all. The stages Im stuck at kick my ass just as fast as a week ago, all the other teams in arena have at least 3k power higher than me, and most disheartening (and potentially odd) of all is that I cant even make it as far into the dungeons as before. A week ago I could get to the fight right before the boss in the second dungeon, the last two days Ive only been able to get to the 4th fight. Tomorrow Im going to have to try the first dungeon again since getting through it will give more coins than the 200 I can get from the second one.

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Ganyu would be better with Ferry-tier proportions.

I feel like she does have similar proportions, maybe a tiny bit taller. Though Genshin only really has 3 female body types. Maybe bigger boobs in fanart thanks to memes.

Oddly, the wiki calls her tall even though she's using the medium-short body.

God dammit you people. Every time I see Ganyu, my mind drifts one letter off and I can only see one person



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Also since W-aifu is coming out in 3 days in Arknights I'm gonna put my base to farm Originium. All those days farming Devices and rocks will pay off lol

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Galbias posted...

Yeah, Ganyu is basically just Ferry with horns and a somewhat modified outfit design-wise. It also helps that none of the other 5* in the game right now are really that interesting to me, 4/5 of the limited ones so far are dudes and there's no way to aim for the non-limited ones (though the only non-limiteds I really like are Keqing and Mona and I already have Mona. And technically Traveler but she's not a real 5*). I'd strongly consider rolling for Venti if they ever add a dress outfit though lol.
as far as future characters go, Hu Tao looks extremely bizarre gameplay-wise from the leaks but she's cute enough and I do really want Ayaka but who knows when she's coming.

Seems Hu Tao is rumoured to have some enmity-style damage gimmick, which I guess makes her Genshin's honorary Gisla-chan, if not as precious lol
Ayaka kinda also strikes me as kinda plain looking though the sort-of samurai theme going on is kinda cool/cute, that being said both of these are characters that haven't actually appeared in the game outside of beta (Which I didn't play) so there's precious little to go off on lol

Belial is great since the HP penalty is additive so in grids where you have a lot of HP bonuses, he barely reduces your HP at all. And the Supplemental damage can add a lot if you're working with decent multiattack/echo. I honestly think he's the most busted summon in the game, more valuable overall than Hades since he can be used in every element. Pretty good stat stick too. I'm salty I never got him on the NY banner last year even with a spark.

Yeah I was more speaking of the really difficult long content where you'd rather have more live summons to use for chaining important summons or if you were gonna use a single-use summon anyway you'd prefer a stack of Qilins as panic buttons but admittedly those are rather niche cases even in endgame
Of course like I mentioned before there's even the 5-Lucha room LuciH strat that bursts him down in 7 turns that does slot Belial lol

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Stagmar posted...

Its not really about lack of content, its that I dont feel my party is getting stronger at all. The stages Im stuck at kick my ass just as fast as a week ago, all the other teams in arena have at least 3k power higher than me, and most disheartening (and potentially odd) of all is that I cant even make it as far into the dungeons as before. A week ago I could get to the fight right before the boss in the second dungeon, the last two days Ive only been able to get to the 4th fight. Tomorrow Im going to have to try the first dungeon again since getting through it will give more coins than the 200 I can get from the second one.

Who's your team? I still feel like it's a bit rough right now without good banners to pull on, unless you're a whale and have been pulling for a full team of 3* units and dupes on the premium banner. I'll agree that progression is a bit slower in this game though, which is why I treat it more as a side game.

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Hey Dx2 people, I need an opinion on my party. Given that I only have 3 spaces left (Motoko waifu is a must), whos most deserving of the remaining spots: Quetzacoatl or however the hell you spell that, Red Rider, Seth, or Samael, AKA Slifer. Im thinking of booting Seth because hes so slow and only has physical attacks/ Force but his magic is booty. At the very least RR can set up bind for Motoko and can deal % damage, Quet covers a lot of elements, and Slifer repels light/dark, heals, and has a counter.

It doesnt necessarily need to be optimal, but just in general.

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YugiNoob posted...

Also since W-aifu is coming out in 3 days in Arknights I'm gonna put my base to farm Originium. All those days farming Devices and rocks will pay off lol

I'm still sitting on my stock, the game is pretty stingy with events that are good for farming Devices/Rocks so I don't want to run out (though I now have 90+ Loxic/Oriron/Sugar), and 166 rolls SHOULD be enough to get both W and Weedy. Though the event will also have a total of 24 free rolls, I think.

Meultima posted...

Seems Hu Tao is rumoured to have some enmity-style damage gimmick, which I guess makes her Genshin's honorary Gisla-chan, if not as precious lol
Ayaka kinda also strikes me as kinda plain looking though the sort-of samurai theme going on is kinda cool/cute, that being said both of these are characters that haven't actually appeared in the game outside of beta (Which I didn't play) so there's precious little to go off on lol

Yeah I was more speaking of the really difficult long content where you'd rather have more live summons to use for chaining important summons or if you were gonna use a single-use summon anyway you'd prefer a stack of Qilins as panic buttons but admittedly those are rather niche cases even in endgame
Of course like I mentioned before there's even the 5-Lucha room LuciH strat that bursts him down in 7 turns that does slot Belial lol

Yeah, the problem is I don't use any healers and Hu Tao apparently damages herself more than she heals. Her base attack is also really low so presumably she hits pretty weakly without her skill. Of course she hasn't even been officially revealed yet so very subject to change. Ayaka's design is nice (I like her little side hair things) and her animations are also really fast and stylish looking, and Saori Hayami is good, she's just a nice package all around.

...though they'll probably nerf her outfit by the time she's actually released. Apparently in beta she was the only character wearing regular underwear, but in-game all characters wear either stockings or hotpants or regular pants or such.

And yeah, you might not slot Belial in high-difficulty endgame raids if you need those slots for something else specifically, but if you have enough HP then he's actually a reasonable pick. Supplemental damage ignores defense so it can end up being a pretty significant damage boost in lategame content too.

Galbias posted...

I'm still sitting on my stock, the game is pretty stingy with events that are good for farming Devices/Rocks so I don't want to run out (though I now have 90+ Loxic/Oriron/Sugar), and 166 rolls SHOULD be enough to get both W and Weedy. Though the event will also have a total of 24 free rolls, I think.

Thou hast cursed thyself and now you wont get either lol. The game will troll you like that one time I got 5 Ambriels in one pull :<

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ShadowElite86 posted...

Who's your team? I still feel like it's a bit rough right now without good banners to pull on, unless you're a whale and have been pulling for a full team of 3* units and dupes on the premium banner. I'll agree that progression is a bit slower in this game though, which is why I treat it more as a side game.

My team is Pecorine, Makoto, Kokkoro, Karyl, and Yukari all at lv 52 rank 4 with full gear. I also have Kurumi, Rei, Aoi and of course Yui. Went back to the first dungeon today and only got to fight 5 to my shock.

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YugiNoob posted...

Thou hast cursed thyself and now you wont get either lol. The game will troll you like that one time I got 5 Ambriels in one pull :<

My luck in Arknights has been super cursed already what with missing both Blaze and Bagpipe despite rolling heavily on their banners as well as not getting any good Top Op until I was like 8-9 months in (at which point they were just dupes). Gacha games without a pity system that actually guarantees you the thing you're rolling for are bad, Genshin is very stingy with rolls but the pity system is actually pretty solid.

Actually, the W banner does have proper pity, but it requires so many rolls to hit that I think it's there specifically for whales lol.

also, what's wrong with 5 Ambriels?

I actually like Ambriel now because of her infinite range lol. Its just that at the time I was going for someone (I think Chen) so getting 5 of the same non-Chens was a kick in the nads :<

But I got this pull to make up for it :3



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Time to perform some occult ritual to steal Yugi's luck for W.

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Sorry, but I trust in the heart of the cards. Its not luck as much as it is cheating to get what I want :3

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Huzzah, only 2 million more EU vanguard experience until I get my first research ship lol

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Well, now that I unlocked skill transfer, I need opinions on what to give Motoko lol. She's that type with Myriad Arrows and Phys Pierce. I'm looking at the beginner's Wiki that has a list of recommended skills, and was leaning towards Phys Amp. I kinda want that one skill that does Almighty damage and heals 40% since I like draining skills and 5 MP isn't too bad, but that's magic damage :<

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Man I hate how long Azur Lanes maintenance is <_<

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*old man voice* I remember when we had a 36 hour maintenance.

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Late Christmas in Guardian Tales but the event is alright so far. I love the skifree guy. I wonder what the challenge stages are the event seems to be light on characters.

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