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Full Throttle 08/10/20 12:48:00 AM #1: |
Did the Dad go overboard with this?
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He was seen sitting on his front lawn with his belongings on the sidewalk reading "Sorry i stole my parent's car and was speeding" His designer sneaekrs, tv and bedroom set were all handed out for free to punish the law breaking youngster Ramon Martinez, the father said "Today, his room is 100% empty,and we're giving all his stuff away" Neighbors flocked to the scene and snatched up his belongings as he helplessly looked on as his stuff was being taken away Ramon said he and his wife were away celebrating a wedding anniversary in Vegas when they got a call from police that their Range Rover was speeding around suburban streets Angel said he was handwashing his parents car when he took the idea to take it for a joy ride and said "I washed the car but didn't have anything to dry it so i thought i'm gonna go for one spin until it dries..i don't have a license, so i just took it" His dad said if anything happened to it he would face serious consequences especially since he could have ran someone over or even worse got killed. He told Fox News that his son will be sleeping on the couch for the forseeable future and said "it's kind of weird but i think it's a fair punishment" Do you think the Dad went overboard on this?. https://i.imgur.com/ALOHCHn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BrZsZ8p.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1VGnS96.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tWZ0wf5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fiE1l1D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/A3h4QcY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/eQ0IZ56.jpg --- The News Will Continue...For Now call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/10/20 12:51:01 AM #2: |
This seems dumb as his parents will need to buy him this stuff back anyway. Also why did his parents leave keys in the car when the son was only washing it? Seems these parents are bad parents tbf.
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BlackScythe0 08/10/20 1:10:24 AM #3: |
Yea I agree I never understood destroying or getting rid of stuff you're going to buy again "to teach a lesson".
Duckbear says the parents were out of town, so they didn't leave the keys in an odd place. Also the kid is 14 not a toddler realistically unless they lock their keys up (which is weird) there isn't anything you can do to stop a kid that age from doing what he did. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/10/20 1:15:08 AM #4: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
Duckbear says the parents were out of town, so they didn't leave the keys in an odd place. Also the kid is 14 not a toddler realistically unless they lock their keys up (which is weird) there isn't anything you can do to stop a kid that age from doing what he did. Take the keys with you perhaps? --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocDelicious 08/10/20 2:45:39 AM #5: |
That is a fantastic punishment. Dumbass kid could have lost everything and cost his parents a lot of money.
wwinterj25 posted... This seems dumb as his parents will need to buy him this stuff back anyway.Uh, no they don't. There is no law saying the kid has to have a TV, PS4, bedroom set, or even a bed. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 08/10/20 2:52:35 AM #6: |
Full Throttle posted... Ramon said he and his wife were away celebrating a wedding anniversary in Vegas when they got a call from police that their Range Rover was speeding around suburban streets They left a 14 y/o by himself while they were away in Vegas? A lot of this is on them. BlackScythe0 posted... Yea I agree I never understood destroying or getting rid of stuff you're going to buy again "to teach a lesson". Probably because it's a shitty YT thing where they want attention. DocDelicious posted... Uh, no they don't. There is no law saying the kid has to have a TV, PS4, bedroom set, or even a bed. Actually I'm 99% sure that there are several laws forcing parents/guardians to provide a bed or similar to their children/wards. Although they'd probably first get a call from CPS about their kid not having shoes. And it mentions neighbors took the stuff, so he might get it back eventually from them. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 08/10/20 2:57:36 AM #7: |
DocDelicious posted...
Uh, no they don't. There is no law saying the kid has to have a TV, PS4, bedroom set, or even a bed.they're absolutely going to re-buy all that stuff they're not going to want him sleeping on the couch for the rest of his life with them lmao there's also child wellness laws, of which not having a bed would bring them into play, fyi. --- 'cause everything's changing and i don't know s*** about s***. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/10/20 3:01:37 AM #8: |
DocDelicious posted...
Uh, no they don't. There is no law saying the kid has to have a TV, PS4, bedroom set, or even a bed. Yeah. Just let the kid live on the street at this point. My bad. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocDelicious 08/10/20 3:13:49 AM #9: |
There is no law governing children's sleeping arrangements in private homes.
The only time it's applicable is in foster care situations, and even then most of the laws are there to prevent overcrowding. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/10/20 3:21:10 AM #10: |
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helIy 08/10/20 6:50:35 AM #11: |
DocDelicious posted...
There is no law governing children's sleeping arrangements in private homes. lolwhat cps very much extremely care about a childs sleeping arrangements in a private home --- 'cause everything's changing and i don't know s*** about s***. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SilentSeph 08/10/20 7:27:20 AM #12: |
The bed is a bit much, but the TV and games is fair, and hopefully it was just his designer shoes and not all of them
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BUMPED2002 08/10/20 7:30:37 AM #13: |
I guess he wanted to get his son's attention.
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LinkPizza 08/10/20 7:36:44 AM #14: |
I'm more of a take it away kind of person. I don't like giving away my money. Since as the parent, I would have most likely bought it.
And if they bought it, I also wouldn't give it away, as that seems like something they'd eventually resent me for. So, just more taking away. I'm glad my parents weren't like this. A spanking and taking away my stuff for a while seemed to work out fine... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadowbird_RH 08/10/20 8:24:47 AM #15: |
So now he has nothing left to lose? Stupid. Those parents better keep their bedroom door locked at night.
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blu 08/10/20 8:39:36 AM #16: |
Sounds like crappy parents. Kids was even washing the car for them while they were away...which really lets you know the parents are crappy.
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PKMNsony 08/10/20 9:07:01 AM #17: |
Nope, we need more parents like this. A talk doesnt do shit.
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Dragooncancer_ 08/10/20 10:17:34 AM #18: |
wwinterj25 posted...
Seems these parents are bad parents tbf. Yep --- I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was, and now what I'm with isn't it. And what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/10/20 10:24:24 AM #19: |
Actions have consequences. Kudos to the parents.
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AElaias 08/10/20 12:38:38 PM #20: |
Grounding and giving away his gaming set could've been satisfying enough than losing everything in my opinion. That's almost like booting someone out to emancipation, except with a shoddy couch in the end.
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ChaosAzeroth 08/10/20 2:15:58 PM #21: |
They could have given away his entertainment, sure. Let's be real though this looks like a lazy power assertion.
Either the kid made one hell of a mistake for his first one or there were signs and the parents just wanted to get away and didn't care. Either way, it's a bit much imo and for the former they're missing a chance to actually sit down with him and really talk about the seriousness of the issue. Like wtf is going to lose it all and actually listen. In fact, every single 14 year old I've known would just learn to be sneakier and never trust their parents if they got into shit. Again, I'm not saying not to do anything. But taking this much + public shaming isn't going to teach anything but don't get caught. I can't get over the fact he was made to give away his bed. Couches suck to sleep on. Teens tend to need more rest than they tend to get as it is. But nah, let's just take where he sleeps. Sure. I'm just wondering what led to this situation at this point honestly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolfy42 08/10/20 2:32:50 PM #22: |
First, why leave your keys behind.....ever......seriously, isn't their house keys on the same chain as the car keys anyway? I would never leave my car keys behind even if I didn't have a kid.
Second, no, you are not required to provide a bed for your child, they can sleep on the ground and like it. Seriously, unless your exposing them to the elements, your pretty much fine (or physically abusing them and making them sleep on glass or something). But having a kid sleep on the floor is not illegal, and if your poor it might be the only option. Third, I think it IS currently (sure wasn't when I was young) illegal or reason to have the child taken away, to leave a 14 year old by themselves for an extended period. I'm not sure if that was made a law or what, but it's certainly frowned apon. 4th, a couch is fine as far as sleeping arrangements, they probably want the kid to not sleep in the living room eventually, but they could buy him a cot or something (or have him sleep on the ground in a sleeping bag I guess). The punishment though is a bit extreme since it sounds like other than getting a ticket, nothing was damaged etc. If this is the first really bad thing the kid did, just take away his ps4 and TV and call it a day. 5th this sounds like a publicity stunt to me, more than anything else. Why is this news, broadcast to the world etc. Even just having the neighbors come get the stuff, I think they wanted attention. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/10/20 3:02:03 PM #23: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Actions have consequences. Kudos to the parents.Yeah. The parents actions now means they will have to buy their kid the stuff they sold again. Not very smart. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 08/10/20 3:11:26 PM #24: |
wolfy42 posted...
Second, no, you are not required to provide a bed for your child, they can sleep on the ground and like it. You can get arrested for that. wolfy42 posted... (or physically abusing them and making them sleep on glass or something). Having them sleep on the floor firmly falls into that category. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/10/20 4:33:57 PM #25: |
wwinterj25 posted...
Yeah. The parents actions now means they will have to buy their kid the stuff they sold again. Not very smart. They are clearly less concerned with money and more concerned with their son learning that actions have consequences. --- GRAPHIC PICTURES. Self healing photos, no hospital, 7 day time span https://imgur.com/UO5QeMn https://imgur.com/8PBwLJc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 08/10/20 4:34:30 PM #26: |
Asking the wrong questions again.
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GGuirao13 08/10/20 4:38:20 PM #27: |
I can understand giving away the TV and console, but not the bed and sneakers.
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wolfy42 08/10/20 4:48:37 PM #28: |
Zeus posted...
wolfy42 posted... I looked it up. Here is a link to the regulations by CPS. There is no requirement for a bed, just a safe place to sleep. I didn't exactly have a great childhood, so yeah, beds were not something I had most of the time, which is why I'm like "you'all are seriously spoiled" lol. If you have a roof over your head and it's not freezing, your better off than many kids, or at least that is what it was like many places where I grew up. So you can have your kid sleep on the floor, in a sleeping bag, on a couch, as long as they won't get mauled by a bear or drown while sleeping, your pretty much good. If you have a bed the whole time your a kid, your freaking lucky and should appreciate that. https://alexandercountync.gov/dss/docs/SafeChildGuide.pdf --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/10/20 5:41:48 PM #29: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
They are clearly less concerned with money and more concerned with their son learning that actions have consequences.They are clearly shit parents and don't think logically been as they are prepared to throw money down the drain for no reason. Even more so when this could have been prevented if they didn't leave the keys at home. All this is doing is showing the parents are dumb. Confiscate things, get the kid to do chores and ground him. That's more logical and effective than this shitshow. wolfy42 posted... I looked it up. Here is a link to the regulations by CPS. There is no requirement for a bed, just a safe place to sleep. Any person who is putting their kids on the floor sleeping or even a sofa willingly by selling their bed is a terrible parent. If you have a bed the whole time your a kid, your freaking lucky and should appreciate that. This is all well and good but that doesn't necessarily mean a great childhood. To cut a long story short me and my full siblings could have been put into the system. Hell my half siblings actually was. Having a unfit mother would do that. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeeVees 08/10/20 5:49:33 PM #30: |
I understand giving away his ps and tv, but why the bed?
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wordscansay 08/10/20 7:18:35 PM #31: |
Kid should be in juvi. Rich entitled kid hopefully learns a lesson. I was left alone at 14 for a weekend. Know what I did? Didn't steal the car and illegally drive without a license.
Also assuming a kid needs a bed furnished instead of a couch or the child is in neglect is hilarious. It's literally not enforceable as it is discriminatory against the poor. Imagine how many social service calls would end in neglect if a child didn't have a bed? The ghettos and trailer parks would be bereft of children... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/10/20 7:27:01 PM #32: |
wordscansay posted...
Also assuming a kid needs a bed furnished instead of a couch or the child is in neglect is hilarious. The key to a good night sleep is a nice bed. Sleep is important for anyone. It's literally not enforceable as it is discriminatory against the poor. Imagine how many social service calls would end in neglect if a child didn't have a bed? The ghettos and trailer parks would be bereft of children... The difference been these parents are doing it willingly as he literally has a bed before they sold it. Still it matters not as again they will be buying him a new one anyway. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolfy42 08/10/20 7:34:27 PM #33: |
wwinterj25 posted...
This is all well and good but that doesn't necessarily mean a great childhood. To cut a long story short me and my full siblings could have been put into the system. Hell my half siblings actually was. Having a unfit mother would do that. Yeah, just cause your parents have money doesn't mean they are good parents, or heck, even that they spend the money on you. Certainly was't saying that. There are good poor parents who have kids they love/care for but don't have a bed, or even a seperate room for the kid/s. It may be a bit different now then when I was a kid (also this is in the US), but I know from teaching that there are still parents that totally ignore their kids and shouldn't be parents at all. CPS is there to help in theory, but there are many ways to get around them, like moving constantly like my mother did for instance. Even in extreme cases kids slip through. My brother was put into the system when he was 9 and I was 11, because he got in trouble at school and my mother was in a mental institution at the time, so was declared unfit. I was 11 and ignored lol. At the time I had been taking care of him and myself for so long, it felt normal for me and I certainly didn't look for help. As an adult now though I find it insane that I was just left alone to take care of myself at 11. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 08/10/20 10:07:38 PM #34: |
wolfy42 posted...
There is no requirement for a bed, just a safe place to sleep. A floor does not count as a safe place to sleep. You will get in trouble for having a kid sleep on the floor. wolfy42 posted... I didn't exactly have a great childhood, so yeah, beds were not something I had most of the time, which is why I'm like "you'all are seriously spoiled" lol. If you have a roof over your head and it's not freezing, your better off than many kids, or at least that is what it was like many places where I grew up. Your childhood has zero bearing on the courts, especially not the courts today. wolfy42 posted... If you have a bed the whole time your a kid, your freaking lucky and should appreciate that. That's not being lucky, that's having a bare minimum. "Lucky" is actual luxuries. A bed, 2-3 meals a day, footwear, and clothes are essentials, not something you're "lucky" to have. Not having those things -- particularly because a guardian is using money that was intended to help you on themselves -- means that you're being deprived. Actual luxuries are electronics, having your own bedroom (or, for that matter, your own bed -- some of my older relatives shared a bed with their siblings when they were young), a bicycle, etc. Hell, even indoor plumbing and electricity are luxuries compared to having a bed. A bed is about as essential as you can get (although I guess a couch is something of a gray area). --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolfy42 08/10/20 10:11:00 PM #35: |
Zeus posted...
Hell, even indoor plumbing and electricity are luxuries compared to having a bed. A bed is about as essential as you can get (although I guess a couch is something of a gray area). Guess this explains why people look at me funny when I just lay down on the ground anywhere and sleep lol. To me a bed is totally optional, but yeah, I get most people consider it important. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultra magnus13 08/11/20 2:13:34 AM #36: |
A bed is not required.
There was probably a spare set of car keys, and they may have even left him a set, so he could pull the car out of the garage, wash it, and put it back. 14 is not to young to be left home alone. --- ?huh?........ it's just a box. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Final Fantasy2389 08/11/20 3:32:23 AM #37: |
If they're gonna take his bed make him sleep on the floor, weak.
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CaptainObvius 08/11/20 3:46:34 AM #38: |
Depends on the sofa, sometimes i would rather sleep on my sofa over the bed. Still, i think giving away his bed set is a bit much.
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LinkPizza 08/11/20 8:52:36 AM #39: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
They are clearly less concerned with money and more concerned with their son learning that actions have consequences. He probably learned nothing, though. Except to maybe not get caught and to not trust his parents, like ChaosAzeroth said. My parents werent insane, so I could talk to them when I got in trouble. Even in big trouble. If I had his parents, Id never tell them anything for fear of being kicked out over something trivial... wwinterj25 posted... he literally has a bed before they sold it. They didnt even sell it. They just have it away... But I agree. Its not about not having a bed. Its because they took the bed away from him. And as a punishment... I hope they expect him to be tired and school. And are ok with his grades dropping since he probably wont be getting a good nights sleep. And hell probably hate them. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/11/20 2:32:18 PM #40: |
LinkPizza posted...
They didnt even sell it. They just have it away... But I agree. Its not about not having a bed. Its because they took the bed away from him. And as a punishment... I hope they expect him to be tired and school. And are ok with his grades dropping since he probably wont be getting a good nights sleep. And hell probably hate them. It's also not very healthy physically to be sleeping on a sofa or even the floor. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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