Poll of the Day > North Carolina Police SLASH and STOMP on MEDICAL SUPPLIES for Protesters!!!

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Horrific images of police in North Carolina who DESTROYED a makeshift medical tent set up for peaceful protesters during George Floyd demonstrations after they were seen SLASHING and STOMPING on food and water bottles and milk jugs!!

It took place downtown shortly after 8pm curfew came into effect with more than a dozen cops in riot gear seen clearing out medical supplies and tossing them on the ground to destroy

Police slashed the water bottles with knives before dumping the supplies and food and stomping them. Around $700 worth of rations and medicines were destroyed

Footage has been viewed more than 3 million times prompting the mayor to chime in and said it was disappointing moment in an otherwise peaceful evening

Mayor Esther Manheimer said the council has now asked for an explanation as to why the destruction occurred as Police Chief hit back and said "The supply station was not permitted by the City of Asheville and was located on private property without permission of the property owner"

He also said protesters breached curfew and the they destroyed the tent so they couldn't use these as "weapons"

On Wednesday, the organizers re opened the makeshift station in the same alleyway to provide support for protesters but insisted they would be packed up before curfew to protect their supplies.

Student Sean Miller said the destruction was "very shocking and jarring" and said they grabbed them by the shoulders and pushed them out of the alleyway when they were providing support

Do you think the police were disgusting for destroying this tent?

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Damaging medical supplies is a war crime

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Lokarin posted...

Damaging medical supplies is a war crime

So is tear gassing enemy troops, but we're not at war so it's okay, right? Right?

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Milk is a very important medical supply.
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mrduckbear posted...

"The supply station was not permitted by the City of Asheville and was located on private property without permission of the property owner"

Would it not have been better to simply seize the supplies and re-purpose them instead of destroying em and letting em go to waste? Is there more paperwork involved if they took them instead of destroying them?

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im not going to take a side here because I dont know enough. But the other side of the story is that these water bottles were being thrown at police officers and they had finally had enough.

This was on Reddit early this morning. Duckbear your topics are stale and worn-out as usual. Is there some sort of a delay on the internet at your moms house where you live?

BeerOnTap posted...

im not going to take a side here because I dont know enough. But the other side of the story is that these water bottles were being thrown at police officers and they had finally had enough.

This was on Reddit early this morning. Duckbear your topics are stale and worn-out as usual. Is there some sort of a delay on the internet at your moms house where you live?

ah yes, because this is reddit

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Just cops showing their true color.

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RCtheWSBC posted...

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lulz

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InfestedAdam posted...

Would it not have been better to simply seize the supplies and re-purpose them instead of destroying em and letting em go to waste?

Yes, but these are US cops, they only know how to attack things.

Lokarin posted...

Damaging medical supplies is a war crime

It was a snack bar.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It was a snack bar.

I don't read, title said medical supplies

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Lokarin posted...

I don't read

Good for you.
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I NEED A MEDlCAL BANANA STAT

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Revelation34 posted...

Milk is a very important medical supply.

You known how people always say to drink milk if you've eaten something too spicy and want to reduce the burning? That's because milk proteins bind to capsaicin and help to carry it away instead of leaving the molecules free to irritate your tissues. As the name suggests, pepper spray consists primarily of concentrated capsaicin.

When you're dealing with large numbers of pepper spray injuries, milk is indeed an important medical supply, since that's generally going to be the most effective form of first aid available short of setting up an actual field hospital (which isn't the most plausible idea right now). Water is also important for washing wounds and treating people that have been exposed to tear gas, to say nothing of treating dehydration (a very real risk in summer temperatures). Arguing that these were medical supplies is very, very easy.

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adjl posted...

You known how people always say to drink milk if you've eaten something too spicy and want to reduce the burning? That's because milk proteins bind to capsaicin and help to carry it away instead of leaving the molecules free to irritate your tissues. As the name suggests, pepper spray consists primarily of concentrated capsaicin.

When you're dealing with large numbers of pepper spray injuries, milk is indeed an important medical supply, since that's generally going to be the most effective form of first aid available short of setting up an actual field hospital (which isn't the most plausible idea right now). Water is also important for washing wounds and treating people that have been exposed to tear gas, to say nothing of treating dehydration (a very real risk in summer temperatures). Arguing that these were medical supplies is very, very easy.

So what were the crackers and hairspray for?
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*Shrug* I'm not overly concerned about those.

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Zareth posted...

So is tear gassing enemy troops, but we're not at war so it's okay, right? Right?

Asking Google because you made me wonder, war for the context of warcrime just seems to be "armed conflict". A requirement I would say as a layman looking in, has been met.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Asking Google because you made me wonder, war for the context of warcrime just seems to be "armed conflict". A requirement I would say as a layman looking in, has been met.

It might not, actually, since the protesters being gassed are generally unarmed.

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adjl posted...

*Shrug* I'm not overly concerned about those.

It's as though it puts the water and milk in to context. Just as the break room doesn't have milk in the fridge for pepper spray victims.
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adjl posted...

It might not, actually, since the protesters being gassed are generally unarmed.

So you are saying both sides have to be armed?

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BeerOnTap posted...

But the other side of the story is that these water bottles were being thrown at police officers and they had finally had enough.

Oh no, not plastic bottles against someone in riot gear! That could do some real damage!
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's as though it puts the water and milk in to context. Just as the break room doesn't have milk in the fridge for pepper spray victims.

You can have crackers for people that want a snack and also have milk and water that will be used to treat injuries, you know. Tents can serve multiple purposes.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

So you are saying both sides have to be armed?

I could see the argument being made that that's a requirement for "armed conflict." I could see it going the other way, too. I don't really know how it's formally defined.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/03/george-floyd-protests-police-destroy-medic-station-asheville/3124847001/

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BeerOnTap posted...

im not going to take a side here because I dont know enough. But the other side of the story is that these water bottles were being thrown at police officers and they had finally had enough.

This is my favourite worst take, holy shit lmao

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Blightzkrieg posted...

This is my favourite worst take, holy shit lmao

"They were throwing water bottles at us while we're in full riot armour so we got annoyed and committed a literal war crime."

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adjl posted...

You can have crackers for people that want a snack and also have milk and water that will be used to treat injuries, you know. Tents can serve multiple purposes.

A shop can sell bandaids, that doesn't make them a hospital.
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adjl posted...

"They were throwing water bottles at us while we're in full riot armour so we got annoyed and committed a literal war crime."

So..
They're being the police in this currently broken police system?

If the system wasn't busted and there weren't rotten apples getting away with BS we wouldn't be at these riots in the first place.

I'm sad, but I'm far from surprised. Wasn't someone saying people were being shot with rubber bullets just for being on their own porch? Isn't this over police overstepping in the first place? The riots are probably a war to them, and they're seeing red and out to win. Do you think they care?

Kyuubi4269 posted...

So what were the crackers and hairspray for?

Crackers (or candy bars) are important for those who have diabetes so that their blood sugar can be replenished if it drops too low. I've worked with diabetic people; blood sugar can get really low in the middle of the day unless they eat something to tide them over until they can take an insulin injection and/or pill. The hairspray part I can't explain because I know of no reason why they'd have it either except to use as torches.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's as though it puts the water and milk in to context. Just as the break room doesn't have milk in the fridge for pepper spray victims.

So understanding @Kyuubi4269

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GastroFan posted...

Crackers (or candy bars) are important for those who have diabetes so that their blood sugar can be replenished if it drops too low. I've worked with diabetic people; blood sugar can get really low in the middle of the day unless they eat something to tide them over until they can take an insulin injection and/or pill. The hairspray part I can't explain because I know of no reason why they'd have it either except to use as torches.

So they're a makeshift GP with flamethrowers or they were setting up shop to illegally occupy.
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adjl posted...

It might not, actually, since the protesters being gassed are generally unarmed.

So according to you, soldiers shooting civilians isn't a war crime because said civilians were unarmed. Okay, that makes total sense.

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https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1266751520055459847
This guy has posted over 240 videos from the protests, mostly consisting of police officers beating the shit out of peaceful protestors, shooting out eyes, groping/sexually assaulting protestors, destroying property, etc.

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adjl posted...

You known how people always say to drink milk if you've eaten something too spicy and want to reduce the burning? That's because milk proteins bind to capsaicin and help to carry it away instead of leaving the molecules free to irritate your tissues. As the name suggests, pepper spray consists primarily of concentrated capsaicin.

When you're dealing with large numbers of pepper spray injuries, milk is indeed an important medical supply, since that's generally going to be the most effective form of first aid available short of setting up an actual field hospital (which isn't the most plausible idea right now). Water is also important for washing wounds and treating people that have been exposed to tear gas, to say nothing of treating dehydration (a very real risk in summer temperatures). Arguing that these were medical supplies is very, very easy.

You'd be automatically wrong. Milk is a food. Just because you can use it as something else doesn't make it a medical supply.

adjl posted...

"They were throwing water bottles at us while we're in full riot armour so we got annoyed and committed a literal war crime."

Yeah destroying milk is a war crime after all.

Gaawa_chan posted...

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1266751520055459847
This guy has posted over 240 videos from the protests, mostly consisting of police officers beating the shit out of peaceful protestors, shooting out eyes, groping/sexually assaulting protestors, destroying property, etc.

Oh Doucette. Post a better source than somebody who just bot blocks people.
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Gaawa_chan posted...

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1266751520055459847

Dudes name is literally douche

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

A shop can sell bandaids, that doesn't make them a hospital.

It does make that the pharmacy aisle, though. Sometimes, corner stores are all the pharmacy you need.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

So..
They're being the police in this currently broken police system?

If the system wasn't busted and there weren't rotten apples getting away with BS we wouldn't be at these riots in the first place.

Pretty much. It kind of baffles me, really. "They're protesting police brutality, so let's unambiguously prove them right by assaulting peaceful protesters." The police don't exactly seem to be trying to prove the complaints wrong, and it's not doing them any favours as far as public opinion goes.

Accrovideogames posted...

So according to you, soldiers shooting civilians isn't a war crime because said civilians were unarmed. Okay, that makes total sense.

If there's no actual armed conflict going on during which they're committing said murders? Potentially. Shooting civilians in the process of fighting a war is a war crime, but shooting civilians during an otherwise peaceful time could be considered plain old murder instead.

Obviously, there are some nuances to consider in defining the term, and I don't know if this would actually qualify as a formal armed conflict. Sometimes, even if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's actually a goose, and you'll need to cook it a bit differently to get comparable results.

Revelation34 posted...

You'd be automatically wrong. Milk is a food. Just because you can use it as something else doesn't make it a medical supply.

If shirts are being torn up to use as bandages, shirts are a medical supply. If water is being used to wash wounds, water is a medical supply. If tampons are being used to staunch the bleeding from gunshot wounds, tampons are a medical supply.

Something having a more mundane use than first aid doesn't preclude it from being a medical supply. Medical supplies are anything that is being used for medical purposes in the context in question. There's no reason to seek out a definition other than that.

Revelation34 posted...

Yeah destroying milk is a war crime after all.

Attacking medics and destroying their supplies is, yes.

Revelation34 posted...

Oh Doucette. Post a better source than somebody who just bot blocks people.

If the best response you have to hours of video footage is flimsy ad hominem like that, you should really take a step back and realize that you have no position to defend.

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Rev has his head in his butt 85% of the time

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Rev has his head in his butt 85% of the time

I'm pretty sure he has a pathological inability to change his mind from the first thought that pops into his head. Every subject I've ever seen him post on, he comes out of the gate with some absurd, poorly thought out statement that he then proceeds to stubbornly refuse to budge on at all. Forget mental gymnastics, dude can't even touch his mental toes.

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adjl posted...

If shirts are being torn up to use as bandages, shirts are a medical supply. If water is being used to wash wounds, water is a medical supply. If tampons are being used to staunch the bleeding from gunshot wounds, tampons are a medical supply.

Something having a more mundane use than first aid doesn't preclude it from being a medical supply. Medical supplies are anything that is being used for medical purposes in the context in question. There's no reason to seek out a definition other than that.

That's not how anything works. Using a product for something it wasn't designed for doesn't mean it suddenly becomes designed for it.

adjl posted...

If the best response you have to hours of video footage is flimsy ad hominem like that, you should really take a step back and realize that you have no position to defend.

I said post a better source. Nothing ad hominem about it. Plus I can't watch his videos anyway.
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Revelation34 posted...

Yeah destroying milk is a war crime after all.

Ya, when I said medical supplies I meant things that are clearly marked and designated with either the Red Cross or Aesculapius logo

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Nah

I can see how the bottled waters can quickly become projectiles

Also it probably wasn't the best of places or the most brilliant idea to begin with

They should've set up in a building

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Revelation34 posted...

That's not how anything works. Using a product for something it wasn't designed for doesn't mean it suddenly becomes designed for it.

Because the only things being damaged were milk and cookies

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I'd also like to add that if they were setting up near an organized and peaceful protest then who exactly instigated the violence that proceeded? It wasn't the law enforcement

So yeah, pretty stupid and careless to be there to begin with

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Revelation34 posted...

That's not how anything works. Using a product for something it wasn't designed for doesn't mean it suddenly becomes designed for it.

It doesn't matter what it's designed for. If it's being used for a purpose, it's a supply for that purpose. The bottom line is that taking away those supplies impairs first aid efforts, and that is a factual statement that you're doing nothing to refute. The semantics of what the products were originally manufactured for doesn't change that.

Revelation34 posted...

I said post a better source. Nothing ad hominem about it.

It is when it's on the basis of his character and not what he's saying.

Revelation34 posted...

Plus I can't watch his videos anyway.

Now there's a legitimate objection. You should have started with that.

JixHedgehog posted...

I can see how the bottled waters can quickly become projectiles

They can (albeit not projectiles that are overly dangerous to a cop in full riot armour), but that could be pretty easily solved by stationing an officer in the tent to act as security and prevent people from taking full bottles out of the area. Instead, war crime, because apparently that's preferable to having an open, cooperative dialogue with peaceful protesters.

JixHedgehog posted...

I'd also like to add that if they were setting up near an organized and peaceful protest then who exactly instigated the violence that proceeded? It wasn't the law enforcement

There have been quite a few stories where law enforcement has in fact instigated the violence, whether by committing some vandalism themselves and blaming protesters for it as an excuse, or by skipping that middleman and just attacking people unprovoked. There have also been countless stories about troublemakers showing up and starting violence that derails an otherwise peaceful protest, some of whom seem to be deliberate agitators (with varying, often unknown motivations), and some of whom are just dickbags that are looking for trouble. By and large, the actual protesters have been mostly peaceful and not behaved in any way that justifies the violent overreaction we've seen from so many cops.

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Police would never do something so terrible.

Also police: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/buffalo-police-video-man-pushed

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adjl posted...

It doesn't matter what it's designed for. If it's being used for a purpose, it's a supply for that purpose. The bottom line is that taking away those supplies impairs first aid efforts, and that is a factual statement that you're doing nothing to refute. The semantics of what the products were originally manufactured for doesn't change that.

It is when it's on the basis of his character and not what he's saying.

Now there's a legitimate objection. You should have started with that.

They can (albeit not projectiles that are overly dangerous to a cop in full riot armour), but that could be pretty easily solved by stationing an officer in the tent to act as security and prevent people from taking full bottles out of the area. Instead, war crime, because apparently that's preferable to having an open, cooperative dialogue with peaceful protesters.

There have been quite a few stories where law enforcement has in fact instigated the violence, whether by committing some vandalism themselves and blaming protesters for it as an excuse, or by skipping that middleman and just attacking people unprovoked. There have also been countless stories about troublemakers showing up and starting violence that derails an otherwise peaceful protest, some of whom seem to be deliberate agitators (with varying, often unknown motivations), and some of whom are just dickbags that are looking for trouble. By and large, the actual protesters have been mostly peaceful and not behaved in any way that justifies the violent overreaction we've seen from so many cops.

It looks like there are actual medical supplies in the picture but we can't tell what they are. That's what should be brought up instead of some milk. Doucette bot blocks people if you follow somebody he doesn't like. Didn't know he became a checkmark.

Also they literally can't be charged for a war crime.

war crime
Translate war crime into Spanish

NOUN
An action carried out during the conduct of a war that violates accepted international rules of war.
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Revelation34 posted...

It looks like there are actual medical supplies in the picture but we can't tell what they are. That's what should be brought up instead of some milk. Doucette bot blocks people if you follow somebody he doesn't like. Didn't know he became a checkmark.

Also they literally can't be charged for a war crime.

war crime
Translate war crime into Spanish

NOUN
An action carried out during the conduct of a war that violates accepted international rules of war.

But what about the War on Drugs or the War on Crime... checkmate

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Revelation34 posted...

It looks like there are actual medical supplies in the picture but we can't tell what they are. That's what should be brought up instead of some milk.

Milk is an actual medical supply when pepper spray injuries are likely. Regardless of that fact, though, you should know better by now than to expect that kind of nuance from Duckbear. That's just not how he do.

Revelation34 posted...

Also they literally can't be charged for a war crime.

They can't, but the legal technicality of "they're not at war" doesn't change that attacking medical supplies and personnel is thoroughly frowned upon by anyone with a shred of decency, and is absolutely not how a conflict should be conducted. The police should be held accountable for those actions, even it that doesn't literally mean shipping them off to The Hague. Calling it a war crime - while not legally accurate - is a concise way of emphasizing how incorrigible their conduct is in this case.

That said, legal interpretations generally rely on more than what dictionary.com says. I wouldn't be leaning on that to dictate what they can and can't be charged with.

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Revelation34 posted...

That's what should be brought up instead of some milk.

YOU were the one who brought up the milk thing dude

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Metalsonic66 posted...

YOU were the one who brought up the milk thing dude

Duckbear did mention it, actually.
mrduckbear posted...

SLASHING and STOMPING on food and water bottles and milk jugs!!

As I said, fixating on Duckbear's specific word choice is more than a little bit silly, but Rev cannot be blamed for bringing up milk unprovoked. I'll give him that.

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