Poll of the Day > Civilization 6 is free on Epic

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Not a fan myself(of strategy games in general), but I know a people here who talked about the series extensively in the past.

Ends next Thursday it looks like.

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@EvilMegas
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I already have it.

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You would need to pay me to play Civ 6.

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I already have but my laptop can't even run it

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I sure wish it was free on the Switch.

So many free Epic games, how far will the Epic fortnite funds stretch?

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i'd love to play it but epic game store is a hard pass.

argonautweakend posted...

i'd love to play it but epic game store is a hard pass.

Pretty much this. They're having a pretty good sale too, but most of their "exclusives" will be on Steam in a few months (where they'll likely have even better sales around Christmas time).

Gotta give Epic props for trying. Steam was hated when it was launched. Origin was hated when it was launched. Uplay was hated when it was launched. Epic's store is no different. It'll be hated, but eventually, people will soften up to it (namely because people hate to wait for for decent exclusives).

Of course, each of these game storefronts will have haters that persist till the end of time.

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I'd rather have Civilization Revolution on PC than any of the mainstream games.

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aHappySacka posted...

I'd rather have Civilization Revolution on PC than any of the mainstream games.

civ rev sucks dude

its a shallow piece of garbage

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Epic bad tho

FatalAccident posted...

civ rev sucks dude

its a shallow piece of garbage

That's just your opinion man.

And I forgot to note that the only other Civ game I liked is Civ 2.

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I've had it on Steam since launch, so meh. Cool for those that want to get into it, though.

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aHappySacka posted...

I'd rather have Civilization Revolution on PC than any of the mainstream games.

I loved that game. Best Civ in my opinion, it felt like the ultimate Xbox 360 board game.

shipwreckers posted...

Pretty much this. They're having a pretty good sale too, but most of their "exclusives" will be on Steam in a few months (where they'll likely have even better sales around Christmas time).

Gotta give Epic props for trying. Steam was hated when it was launched. Origin was hated when it was launched. Uplay was hated when it was launched. Epic's store is no different. It'll be hated, but eventually, people will soften up to it (namely because people hate to wait for for decent exclusives).

Of course, each of these game storefronts will have haters that persist till the end of time.

I feel that. I still hate Steam myself lol

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FatalAccident posted...

civ rev sucks dude

its a shallow piece of garbage

it's more fun because there isn't micromanagement
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Idk why people care what store it's on. In 2020, the CPU usage of the epic store running in the background is...

0%

The disk space is...

898 MB (<0.5% of my computer)

I guess it's just really important what pictures people have to click on to launch their games.

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The hassle of needing yet another account is a pain, as is having to check multiple storefronts for sales on games I'm interested in. It's also a hassle to remember which storefronts have which exclusive games, which is a particular issue with Epic because their exclusives are so arbitrary and sporadic (as distinct from Origin or Uplay, whose exclusives are the releases from their respective owners). Being able to boot up a single launcher to access my entire library and browse all the sales I'm interested in has been a strength of PC gaming for a long time, but that strength is being eroded with each new distribution platform that comes out. Humble and GOG have been contributing to this, but they at least occupy their own niches and contribute something to the market that Steam does not (DRM-free and older games in the case of GOG, bundles in the case of Humble), which cannot be said for Epic.

Quite simply, Epic is offering a subpar platform that provides nothing new except the exclusives that it obtained purely by bribing publishers, which is not the kind of competition anyone should want. Toss in their very questionable sale practices (their first major sale entailed forcing developers to discount their games whether they wanted to or not), and I'm not exactly in a rush to support them. I'll take the free games, but it's going to take a lot to convince me to spend any money there.

Of course, the whole "single launcher" issue can be solved by GOG Galaxy 2.0, which very kindly unifies all libraries into a single client. Still doesn't streamline the shopping process as much as I might like, and the last time I looked their library organization features were a bit lacking compared to Steam's, but it's definitely something I'll be adding to my desktop if I ever get around to "upgrading" from Windows 7.

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The hassle of having an account in the first place was a pain. Steam's just as bad as Epic.

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Krow_Incarnate posted...

The hassle of having an account in the first place was a pain. Steam's just as bad as Epic.

first world zoomer problems.

Seriously, you're getting a FREE GAME...and you kids are bitching about signing up for another account that takes 2 minutes?

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That wasn't exactly an anti-Epic comment.

Also, the word zoomer's a bit ironic considering that post implies one lamenting the days where you slipped a disc in and installed the game.

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Krow_Incarnate posted...

The hassle of having an account in the first place was a pain. Steam's just as bad as Epic.

Having at least one account is inevitable, as bothersome as it might be. You can't have digital shopping and distribution without tying those purchases to a single person, and having an account is the simplest way to do that. It's a pain, but it's a pain with some kind of purpose, which makes it more tolerable. The Epic Store, however, serves no such purpose except to access exclusives that they chose to throw money at to secure said exclusivity. Nothing about it is necessary, nor are they offering a genuinely competitive service to offset the inconvenience of the additional account.

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Krow_Incarnate posted...

Also, the word zoomer's a bit ironic considering that post implies one lamenting the days where you slipped a disc in and installed the game.

Oh I'd be lamenting beyond that.... try imagining a time before DRMs, and Microtransactions.

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I mean, physical media is itself a sort of DRM. If you don't have it, no game for you. A few publishers released their own no-CD patches, often for the purpose of facilitating LAN play (Starcraft comes immediately to mind), but the standard was usually to not let people play a game unless they possessed a copy of it. In many ways, DRM for digital games seeks to emulate that, since without it, a single purchased copy can potentially be played by any number of people. It very often ends up being needlessly restrictive in its efforts to achieve that, including eliminating second-hand ownership and interfering with people's ability to play games they have purchased, and when that happens it's worse than the limitations inherent in physical media, but it's very much not the case that we've ever had no restrictions on our ability to play games. Those restrictions just used to come from basic physical reality instead of a publisher's rules.

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Krow_Incarnate posted...

The hassle of having an account in the first place was a pain. Steam's just as bad as Epic.

adjl posted...

ding yet an

In 2020 creating a new account is as easy as clicking the "sign in with Google" button. 5 minutes max. In the year 2020 you don't create accounts or memorize passwords.

And the Google 1984 argument doesn't work because they are just video games and you can just resort to piracy.

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Yellow posted...

In 2020 creating a new account is as easy as clicking the "sign in with Google" button.

Unless you don't want everything you own locked behind one password, given that that is generally a very bad idea. It's fine for stuff like forums that don't matter, but when there's actually money on the line? Not so much.

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Secure your Google account, use 2 step verification and have your phone and e-mail connected, use a random password for every account. I don't believe I've ever heard of a properly secured Google account getting hacked.

If you have your passwords in an unencrypted txt file then you might as well only have one (the one that accesses your computer remotely or otherwise, the second you get a virus you're compromised)

If you have your passwords on a piece of paper on your desk you can lose the paper and all your accounts. Or someone can find it and access everything you own.

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shipwreckers posted...

Pretty much this. They're having a pretty good sale too, but most of their "exclusives" will be on Steam in a few months (where they'll likely have even better sales around Christmas time).

Gotta give Epic props for trying. Steam was hated when it was launched. Origin was hated when it was launched. Uplay was hated when it was launched. Epic's store is no different. It'll be hated, but eventually, people will soften up to it (namely because people hate to wait for for decent exclusives).

Of course, each of these game storefronts will have haters that persist till the end of time.

Epic is hated because of the exclusivity deals. The hate will never soften.

Joker_X_II posted...

first world zoomer problems.

Seriously, you're getting a FREE GAME...and you kids are bitching about signing up for another account that takes 2 minutes?

I complain that the store even exists.
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I can understand getting mad at exclusivity deals when they require the purchase of a $300+ system, but this ain't it.

Competition is generally good for the consumer, which is highlighted by the fact that I now own Civ VI, and I didn't have to pay shit.

FourthDimension posted...

I can understand getting mad at exclusivity deals when they require the purchase of a $300+ system, but this ain't it.

Competition is generally good for the consumer, which is highlighted by the fact that I now own Civ VI, and I didn't have to pay shit.

So do I. I'm still going to buy the Steam version one day.
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Yellow posted...

So many free Epic games, how far will the Epic fortnite funds stretch?

It helps that they are targeting games that are either indie titles that won't cost a lot or games that are 4+ years old. It's not like they are giving out free copies of Cyberpunk 2077 or something.

Monopoman posted...

It helps that they are targeting games that are either indie titles that won't cost a lot or games that are 4+ years old. It's not like they are giving out free copies of Cyberpunk 2077 or something.

I hope they don't.
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Krow_Incarnate posted...

Not a fan myself(of strategy games in general), but I know a people here who talked about the series extensively in the past.

Base game? Or platinum?

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jmikla posted...

Base game? Or platinum?

These free deals are always just base game, that way if people want expansion packs and stuff they have to buy it.

Monopoman posted...

These free deals are always just base game, that way if people want expansion packs and stuff they have to buy it.

not surprising. its like 73% off for platinum on steam, so i think I will finally pull the trigger on it

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Yellow posted...

Secure your Google account, use 2 step verification and have your phone and e-mail connected, use a random password for every account. I don't believe I've ever heard of a properly secured Google account getting hacked. The same way there's never been a documented identity compromised on the tor network that wasn't user error.

That you haven't heard of it happening doesn't mean it won't ever happen, especially if "just rely on Google to log into all of your stuff for you" becomes a common mentality and Google ends up falling victim to a major security breach. It really doesn't matter how secure that one point is, having a single point login is significantly more risky than having multiple points.

Yellow posted...

If you have your passwords in an unencrypted txt file then you might as well only have one (the one that accesses your computer remotely or otherwise, the second you get a virus you're compromised)

If you have your passwords on a piece of paper on your desk you can lose the paper and all your accounts. Or someone can find it and access everything you own.

Alternatively, I can limit myself to a small enough number of accounts that I can memorize all of my passwords and not need to store them anywhere. That's the most secure option of all, which is why I so resent efforts to erode its viability by fragmenting services like Epic is trying to.

FourthDimension posted...

Competition is generally good for the consumer, which is highlighted by the fact that I now own Civ VI, and I didn't have to pay s***.

That's less an example of competition being good and more an example of Epic giving you a gift to try and convince you to ignore how noncompetitive they are. Competition is good for the consumer if it drives companies to provide better services, but Epic's chosen to throw money around instead of trying to provide a better service, which is not a healthy way to compete.

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Track new topics on the https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games board for reminders of future free games.

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I know I'm not changing your mind, but these day security breaches don't happen the way they used to. All breaches where data was leaked (Facebook last time) the data was stored improperly.

Facebook/Yahoo didn't encrypt the data that was leaked, there was no excuse as the way they were doing it was outdated even at the time.

Google encrypts everything with your login credentials, so even if a hacker gets into Google's databases, the data is useless to them. They do not store your password anywhere. For you to be hacked you have to be hacked locally, and not have two factor authentication set up properly. It just doesn't happen if you have multiple authenticators.

I'm just going to say it's more secure than you think it is, past actions are not a predictor of what's happening in the future because the way your data is stored in the modern day means it's mathematically impossible to access.

Here is a mathematician who is basically repeating everything I stated word for word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZtInClXe1Q

Also see bitcoin. They say anything that is on a computer can be hacked, this is a myth. There is a $117.81 billion reward for anyone who hacks the blockchain, something that is mathematically impossible because it is encrypted.

adjl posted...

Alternatively, I can limit myself to a small enough number of accounts that I can memorize all of my passwords and not need to store them anywhere. That's the most secure option of all, which is why I so resent efforts to erode its viability by fragmenting services like Epic is trying to.

The world's getting too complicated for you to memorize everything, so we will move on. \_()_/ Just don't get mad when monopolies break up because it's inconvenient for you, because you choose to manually remember your passwords and that severely limits the range of platforms you can use.

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And the Tl; Dr of this all is that using a log in with Google option is objectively more secure than trusting whatever you're logging into's servers to store anything.

You're literally just wrong. There are a lot of myths going around spread by people who either don't know what they're talking about, or people who did know what they were talking about 10 years ago.

And any service that has the capacity to recover your account from a phone call is not taking your security seriously, and would rather risk you getting hacked and losing your bank account over denying your account and losing you as a customer. You can bypass their shit with a login token from Google.

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Yellow posted...

And the Tl; Dr of this all is that using a log in with Google option is objectively more secure than trusting whatever you're logging into's servers to store anything.

You're literally just wrong. There are a lot of myths going around spread by people who either don't know what they're talking about, or people who did know what they were talking about 10 years ago.

And any service that has the capacity to recover your account from a phone call is not taking your security seriously, and would rather risk you getting hacked and losing your bank account over denying your account and losing you as a customer. You can bypass their shit with a login token from Google.

Everybody knows phone calls can be hacked easily.
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Revelation34 posted...

Everybody knows phone calls can be hacked easily.

Imagine I posted that whole thing while at the same time thinking phone calls could be hacked.

That would be pretty sad. And some top tier bullshitting.

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Is it free permanently, or only free to play until the deal ends?

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I have it but I still tried to log in and see what else is there. Turned out I already have an account but as anti bot measure they forced me to click around to flip some images 20 fucking times. So they can fuck right off

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Yellow posted...

Just don't get mad when monopolies break up because it's inconvenient for you

If there's no benefit to me in those monopolies being broken up? I certainly will get mad over that. If I have to do extra work for no benefit, that's always going to be a problem. If Epic wants my business, they're going to have to start competing properly and actually offering a better service. Until then, I'm just going to keep mooching off of the free games for as long as they can continue pretending "throw money at it until everyone else gives up" is a viable competitive strategy.

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the government should just nationalize steam honestly. gaming storefront is a natural monopoly because gamers are two lazy to go to two different stores

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