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Dusk_
05/12/20 4:09:58 AM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
No need to project, I'm not triggered over you still defending random neutral person nobody cares about

I'm not defending. I linked the video because he outlines information. I was asked to give a source why I thought the " murdered for jogging while black" narrative was bs. So I tried to find someone independent and from what I have seen is more neutral.

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teepan95
05/12/20 4:11:17 AM
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teepan95 posted...
Dusk_ posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Youtube isn't a source. Please provide something less bias.

Tim pool is about as neutral as it gets. He provides sources in the video and explains things. I don't even like him, but he does a good job.

Also slated to attend is Tim Pool, an independent journalist who describes himself as a pro-Bernie Sanders social liberal but whose views on issues including social media bias and immigration often align with conservatives'.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/11/white-house-social-media-bias-talks-1576717

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CreepySmile
05/12/20 4:12:03 AM
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Dusk_ posted...
How can you assume it was racially motivated? Not every crime a white person commits on a black person is because of racism.
I'm agreeing with you it's not? I'm asking if you agree they're just scumbag vigilantes?

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UnfairRepresent
05/12/20 4:15:00 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
That's because he acknowledges that like 90% of journalism out there already reflects the poor nature of the republicans. He doesn't need to report on them, because they're already going to be reported on.

That's dumb
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EverDownward
05/12/20 4:16:47 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
People who criticize mass armed gatherings now celebrate mass armed gatherings, people who celebrate mass armed gatherings now criticize mass armed gatherings.
pretty much

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atomofish
05/12/20 4:17:09 AM
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2020 is gonna be the bloodiest year yet.

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Blue_School
05/12/20 4:19:52 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
That's because he acknowledges that like 90% of journalism out there already reflects the poor nature of the republicans. He doesn't need to report on them, because they're already going to be reported on.

Whereas the democrats, he finds that everyone just lets their wrongdoings go unpunished and unnoticed, so he finds more value on reporting it.
So hes a grifter?
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Dusk_
05/12/20 4:22:04 AM
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CreepySmile posted...
I'm agreeing with you it's not? I'm asking if you agree they're just scumbag vigilantes?

Absolutely. They should be charged with atleast manslaughter in my opinion. Idk what the laws are in that state. But regardless of what Arbery may have been doing or not. It should have never got to a point where he had to start wrestling a dude over a shotgun.

I feel people think I'm defending the McMichaels. I am not. I am saying the narrative that dude was killed while black just doesn't match the facts that we know. Again, all the facts haven't come out. Anyone pushing any narrative at this point is wrong. I don't want more blood and violence over a false narrative.

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TheMikh
05/12/20 4:28:44 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
I read from reddit that they are from the New Black Panthers, which are not affiliated with the Black Panthers.

pretty much, the black panthers have been defunct for decades, and former original panthers criticize the nbpp as a hate group masquerading with the old group's iconography

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Blue_School
05/12/20 4:29:52 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
A grifter would be playing everyone for fools. He's someone who sees a market where these grifters are going unpunished and wants to bring light to them. He's not a grifter, he's a capitalist.
Sure, hes fooled you into believing he is a centrist despite his own content proving otherwise.
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UnfairRepresent
05/12/20 4:34:44 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
It's true though. Can you find any reputable source that often criticizes democrats?

Every mainstream newsoutlet?

Are you like just watching Mark Dice videos or something?

Trust me, I look at a lot of news for various sources. Sure bias exists but the Democrats get railed by everyone

If anything the desire to go "both sides" and be neutral means they get hit harder than the republicans for doing less wrong.
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Blue_School
05/12/20 4:42:54 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
Ok, let's use current events. Can you find me a reputable liberal outlet that didn't jump to the conclusion that Ahmoud Arbery's killers were racists since we haven't quite figured out motive yet?
What does that have to do with bias against Democrats? You're just pivoting.
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UnfairRepresent
05/12/20 4:44:30 AM
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totalnerdken posted...

Ok, let's use current events. Can you find me a reputable liberal outlet that didn't jump to the conclusion that Ahmoud Arbery's killers were racists since we haven't quite figured out motive yet?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/09/us/who-is-ahmaud-arbery-mcmichaels/index.html

Erm.

I can't even find any mainstream outlet that claimed "They did this cuz hey racist" that's not how you do journalism
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joe40001
05/12/20 4:47:24 AM
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2Pacavelli
05/15/20 8:20:27 AM
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Neighbors called the police on them, but the police never showed. They must have been intimidated
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Bluebomber182
05/15/20 8:23:33 AM
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Dusk_ posted...


Tim pool is about as neutral as it gets


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mooreandrew58
05/15/20 8:51:29 AM
#73:


MacadamianNut3 posted...
Do you not know what "breaking and entering" means

Breaking and entering can be as simple as reaching a arm through a OPEN window if the property isn't yours. The breaking part impliea you are breaking a invisible plane. Think football and how only thr ball must BREAK thr plane for a touchdown.

That said I dont agree with how the two yahoos dealt with the situation.

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Balrog0
05/15/20 8:55:21 AM
#74:


TheMikh posted...
pretty much, the black panthers have been defunct for decades, and former original panthers criticize the nbpp as a hate group masquerading with the old group's iconography

This is a classic panther move though, no?

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ScazarMeltex
05/15/20 9:06:18 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
People who criticize mass armed gatherings now celebrate mass armed gatherings, people who celebrate mass armed gatherings now criticize mass armed gatherings.
It's almost like their reasons are completely different. Nuance seems to be lost on you.

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ScazarMeltex
05/15/20 9:09:44 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
This is a classic panther move though, no?
OG panthers would patrol in primarily black neighborhoods and listen on police scanners for calls involving black people. They would then show up armed and with lawbooks and shout instructions about what their rights were to the person being arrested.

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treewojima
05/15/20 9:20:48 AM
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I always get sad when I see modern day Black Panthers because I know at their core the organization is unrelated to the old and its basically just the paramilitary wing of the Nation of Islam

I have to stop myself from cheering since they'd consider me the devil
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Secretly
05/15/20 9:23:43 AM
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Dusk_ posted...
Tim pool is about as neutral as it gets
One of the dumbest posts I've seen on this website
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CommonStar
05/15/20 9:27:03 AM
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Wasn't Tim Pool caught hanging out with a bunch of White Supremacists?

People thinking Tim Pool is neutral or on the left are falling for his grift.
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ScazarMeltex
05/15/20 9:30:57 AM
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treewojima posted...
I always get sad when I see modern day Black Panthers because I know at their core the organization is unrelated to the old and its basically just the paramilitary wing of the Nation of Islam

I have to stop myself from cheering since they'd consider me the devil
I wonder what it is that stops the original Panther organization from returning to the old school playbook. They could do the exact same things but also video tape all the arrests. There are plenty of states that are open carry.

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MrMallard
05/15/20 9:32:02 AM
#81:


CommonStar posted...
Wasn't Tim Pool caught hanging out with a bunch of White Supremacists?
Damn, Tim Pool out here acting like the real life Caution

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ThisGuyAreSick
05/15/20 9:34:12 AM
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no ones addressing the elephant in the room

does walking into a construction site justify getting hunted down and murdered by two average citizens?

i say no, but i'm really curious as to why people keep going "BUT HE WASNT JUST JOGGING" as if that even fucking means anything

whats their endgame here
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MrMallard
05/15/20 9:37:16 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
no ones addressing the elephant in the room

does walking into a construction site justify getting hunted down and murdered by two average citizens?

i say no, but i'm really curious as to why people keep going "BUT HE WASNT JUST JOGGING" as if that even fucking means anything

whats their endgame here
Their endgame is to justify this man's murder. He was more bad than good, so it's good that he got shot. That's their endgame.

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2Pacavelli
05/15/20 9:38:15 AM
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treewojima posted...
I always get sad when I see modern day Black Panthers because I know at their core the organization is unrelated to the old and its basically just the paramilitary wing of the Nation of Islam

I have to stop myself from cheering since they'd consider me the devil

The Nation of Islam has White supporters and members. They also actually ban members from carrying guns and storing guns in their homes. The Black Panthers don't have relation with them

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxATfYOFd0u/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

There's a lot of misconception about the Nation. They're basically a non violent movement that advocates for self defense

https://youtu.be/8_upWyM6N7E - The defense group the FOI and MGT don't carry weapons, but they do physical training and martial arts. Disaster relief preparedness, crowd control and guidance things like that
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CommonStar
05/15/20 9:38:24 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
no ones addressing the elephant in the room

does walking into a construction site justify getting hunted down and murdered by two average citizens?

i say no, but i'm really curious as to why people keep going "BUT HE WASNT JUST JOGGING" as if that even fucking means anything

whats their endgame here
No it doesn't justify him getting gunned down.

I think we know exactly what their endgame is when they try to bring that up. It's the same reason why after the news of this shooting broke out, google search for Ahmaud Arbery had "Ahmaud Arbery criminal records" as one of the top searches.
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Secretly
05/15/20 9:38:26 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
whats their endgame here
White men shot a black man. This is already justified in their eyes, but they need to somehow make it look legal as well
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Houston
05/15/20 9:39:33 AM
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So what happened to them? I've been hearing a lot of talk on CE about black people not being able to do things like this like white people did at the open up protests.

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Sackgurl
05/15/20 9:40:08 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
no ones addressing the elephant in the room

does walking into a construction site justify getting hunted down and murdered by two average citizens?

i say no, but i'm really curious as to why people keep going "BUT HE WASNT JUST JOGGING" as if that even fucking means anything

whats their endgame here

in the world we live it's acceptable to assume any black man in any space is a threat

events like this challenge that status quo because it's obviously super fucked up and wrong

but they like that status quo because it ensures there is someone beneath them, and they don't want to change it

same as most of the 'law and order' types--it's all just a dogwhistle for "keep the [racist slur] in his place, beneath you"

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treewojima
05/15/20 9:46:43 AM
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Secretly posted...
Dusk_ posted...
Tim pool is about as neutral as it gets
One of the dumbest posts I've seen on this website

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KyerWiz
05/15/20 9:50:48 AM
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It's about who you identify with.

Is your first instinct to sympathize with the "normal guy" trying to protect his community that only wanted to talk but had to take precautions when confronting a potential criminal who did turn out to be violent and tried to take his gun and likely kill him and his son?

Or do you sympathize with a guy, just jogging and minding his business, being chased by people with guns who refused to just let him go who likely was terrified at this point?

While I can imagine the mindset of the murderers, the fact is they're the one who created this situation. They initiated the confrontation, they refused to let Ahmaud go, they're the ones who brought weapons and they're the ones who did shoot in the end. Even if we assume they had the best intentions in the world, they fucked up.
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mooreandrew58
05/15/20 9:56:00 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
no ones addressing the elephant in the room

does walking into a construction site justify getting hunted down and murdered by two average citizens?

i say no, but i'm really curious as to why people keep going "BUT HE WASNT JUST JOGGING" as if that even fucking means anything

whats their endgame here

I did address I didnt agree with what the two idiots did. Vigilantism isnt legal. Citizens arrest doesnt involve killing.

Then again I also never stated if i felt black dude did anything wrong as I've only watched that 3 second clip of him walking in. I just tried to better explain what qualifies as breaking and entering

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ScazarMeltex
05/15/20 9:59:25 AM
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Also, did no one here ever play in under construction houses when they were kids? We used to love playing in the gravel pits in the basements. I said in a previous topic on this subject that, so long as the house isn't walled up, I'll still walk around and check out the interior layout and the carpentry work. Legally it's probably trespassing, but no one has ever seen me and called the cops. I'm also not black though, so I'm not under immediate suspicion just for existing.

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DarkChozoGhost
05/15/20 10:01:27 AM
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The dudes were obviously racist as fuck, and that absolutely motivated them. Anyone with even a small amount of sense can see that from the context. The state where it took place is evidence enough.

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mooreandrew58
05/15/20 10:10:41 AM
#94:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Also, did no one here ever play in under construction houses when they were kids? We used to love playing in the gravel pits in the basements. I said in a previous topic on this subject that, so long as the house isn't walled up, I'll still walk around and check out the interior layout and the carpentry work. Legally it's probably trespassing, but no one has ever seen me and called the cops. I'm also not black though, so I'm not under immediate suspicion just for existing.

When i worked construction people going in and out of vacant houses being built annoyed me. Not that i thought they where stealing as I felt if you dont want something stolen you dont leave it at the job site but I was actually worried theyd get hurt. House is under construction and trust me mistakes get made that have to be fixed after an inspector says it's not good enough. Plus job sites are full of things in general one could hurt themselves on like stepping on a nail. Nails are everywhere. On the ground sticking out of wood both on the ground and through walls.

Plus one woman was always wondering into them whike day drinking. She came off as the snobby elitist type so I assume she was just wondering around to try and find things to bitch about.

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ScazarMeltex
05/15/20 10:19:15 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
When i worked construction people going in and out of vacant houses being built annoyed me. Not that i thought they where stealing as I felt if you dont want something stolen you dont leave it at the job site but I was actually worried theyd get hurt. House is under construction and trust me mistakes get made that have to be fixed after an inspector says it's not good enough. Plus job sites are full of things in general one could hurt themselves on like stepping on a nail. Nails are everywhere. On the ground sticking out of wood both on the ground and through walls.

Plus one woman was always wondering into them whike day drinking. She came off as the snobby elitist type so I assume she was just wondering around to try and find things to bitch about.
Yeah I always make sure to pay attention to where i'm walking, never touch anything, and I certainly don't do it when workers are on site working (except when it was my house being built and even then I stayed the hell out of the way). I'm not saying it's a good idea to do it, it's not. I'm just saying that people who do it don't necessarily have bad intentions.

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DeadBankerDream
05/15/20 10:22:01 AM
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Posting a Tim Pool video in a topic about someone being murdered should be an automatic ban for trolling.
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mooreandrew58
05/15/20 10:22:10 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Yeah I always make sure to pay attention to where i'm walking, never touch anything, and I certainly don't do it when workers are on site working (except when it was my house being built and even then I stayed the hell out of the way). I'm not saying it's a good idea to do it, it's not. I'm just saying that people who do it don't necessarily have bad intentions.

Other guy isn't lying about people stealing stuff though. Boss literally had a 300 dollar nail gun stolen WHILE we where on the job site. We where just on the other side of the house. Another crew got robbed of all their tools once too.

Usually it was other crews it seemed. Ones that generally used cheap shitty tools and would steal the higher end ones. Construction is sadly full of criminals. Thefts as mentioned and people with DUIs and drug habits

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gamer167
05/15/20 10:35:45 AM
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Fighting stupidity with more stupidity, smart.
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sondast
05/15/20 10:37:33 AM
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gamer167 posted...
Fighting stupidity with more stupidity, smart.
I was gonna say theyre fighting racism with more racism.

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