Board 8 > Anagram Aces Ace Attorney: A Phoenix Wright Playthrough Topic (spoilers)

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Paratroopa1 posted...

It's her face pushing through it

Well I got that, but it looks like an angry ghost face.

LeonhartFour posted...

The anime actually provides this, which is one reason I think it's a good adaptation.

I'm actually shocked by this.

LeonhartFour posted...

Just in case the nurse got belligerent, which would have meant R.I.P. Maya but whatever.

I guess he didn't expect it to be quite so easy to get her to sign the confession or at least he prepared for the worst.

I guess that's good enough, thanks.

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LeonhartFour posted...

You have Apollo Justice, the two Edgeworth games, and then the two most recent AA games

Why did they replace Phoenix as the protagonist, anyway?

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His story is masterfully wrapped up after three games. You'll see.

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Anagram posted...

Why did they replace Phoenix as the protagonist, anyway?

you'll have to play the games to find out

Yeah, if you don't know the answer to that, I won't spoil it for you.

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Fair enough, then.

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hotti is the worst character

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Hotti is low key hilarious

Hmm yes

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Hotti is fairly amusing, yes.

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MrSmartGuy posted...

His story is masterfully wrapped up after three games. You'll see.

Honestly they could have and probably should have just ended it there.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Honestly they could have and probably should have just ended it there.

There's more I can say on this matter, but I'll wait until Anagram actually finishes the OT.

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yeah like, remember he hasn't played the game yet

Hotti isn't quite the worst, but he's close!

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I think the only characters in my bottom 10 that Anagram has gotten to so far are Sal Manella and Richard Wellington. Grossberg and Lotta might be there too but I still need to keep (re)playing the later games to tell for sure.

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Episode 3: Turnabout Big Top
- Let me guess, the magician dies and half the mystery will be unraveling his magic tricks.
- I like how a divide is immediately drawn between spirit channeling and magic.
- Nick, you have to turn on the TV! Thankfully, Phoenix doesnt need to be told a channel or anything, he can just rely on that News-brand news.
- Goddammit, Max is the person I need to defend.
- Theres not even a joke I can make about Maxs appearance, so I wont bother.
- I want a mystery where the guard in the detention center is accused of murder and I have to defend him, and all of his dialogue is about how boring his job is.
- I like how he wont talk to Phoenix, but when Phoenix tells Maya to ask, he immediately talks.
- Max, youre rich, you can find a better lawyer. You can at least find one who already knows what gunpowder is.
- I remember someone telling me earlier in the topic that the third case usually has nothing to do with the rest of the games plot. That definitely seems like the case here.
- Guessing the killer stepped in the victims footprints behind him, or used Maxs flying trick to get close enough to kill him. I absolutely swear to God, you have to trust me on this, that I wrote that sentence after Gumshoe showed me the photo but before Phoenix thought of Max flying.
- The ringmaster must have been really concerned about his skin Very metrosexual. Wow, Maya, okay. Disregarding that, whered you even learn that term in your tiny Japanese village two hours outside of LA?
- Maya, I dont know if you get to laugh at a ventriloquist being named Woodman in a world where everyone has a pun name.
- Moe is quickly in the running for most unbearable character.
- No orange juice is stored in wine bottle form, game.
- Jesus Christ, a late video return joke. Talk about things that didnt age well.
- Dont overdo it, Maya. You dont want to end up a muscle woman. Sometimes this game
- So theres a love triangle between Regina, Max, and Bens puppet. Im going to say Trilo proposed to her, the father got in the way, and either Regina or Ben killed him. But theres also the chance that its Moe. So basically Ive narrowed down no suspects.
- I have to say that this is already my least favorite case so far. Its wacky, and not in the same way the rest of the game is. The characters are also all super irritating.

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2-3 is one of the most universally hated cases. It has a few sympathizers, myself among them, but even we admit it's easily in the bottom half.

I do find it strangely endearing and the second day is a vast improvement over the first.

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Its not quite the worst case, but its the worst youve seen so far

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I actually like 2-3, but I'll readily admit it's a lower tier case. Moe is terrible for most of the case, yes, but I actually like Max and Trilo, who reminds me of Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Trilo, who reminds me of Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

I often forget this was even a thing, and yet just a few days ago I dropped "for me to poop on."

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I like 2-3, don't listen to the haters

2-3 is good!

But then I think almost every AA case is good. There are only a couple I would actually say are bad.

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2-3 is decent. It's botton half but that says more about the series quality.

Moe's jokes are terrible but the character itself is good when he's not trying to make you laugh.

Ben/Trilo is just meh. Some mix of funny/annoying.

Regina is weird af.

The case plot is pretty solid albeit it gets a little surreal. But that's AA for you.

another case that's better when it comes to the anime

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2-3 is...well...like a weird fever dream, mostly.

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Raka_Putra posted...

2-3 is...well...like a weird fever dream, mostly.

This is how I'd describe another case later in the series.

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I'm having problems. The text keeps skipping after like one second per box. I tried the options and set text skip to each of the three options, but it always skips. I can still play the game, I just can't stop at any point, which is annoying. Does anyone know what's happening?

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sounds like a button is stuck

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- The court accept this into evidence. Dammit, translators, hire an editor.
- The only moment in this case so far Ive enjoyed is Trilo exploding when you corner him in a lie.
- Whos pocket was that ring in? Dammit, translators, hire an editor.
- Wow, I did not expect a Fresh Prince and A-Team reference from Moe. Jesus Christ, at least give me a Three Stooges or Simpsons reference.
- Youre the man now, doll! Man, these 2001-era memes are really not doing it for me. Is there going to be an all your base reference next?
- Ah okay, Maxs bust is going to be the murder weapon.
- Im not sure Franziskas motive to avenge Edgeworth makes sense given what we see of 1-5. The judge even talks about how Gant will be the biggest scandal ever.
- The second moment in this case I enjoyed: Phoenixs options when Regina asks for his help. Gladly! But of course! Ill get it for you!

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Anagram posted...

- The only moment in this case so far Ive enjoyed is Trilo exploding when you corner him in a lie.

Top tier damage animation

Anagram posted...

at least give me a Three Stooges...reference

Lawrence "Moe" Curls

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Anagram posted...

Jesus Christ, at least give me a Three Stooges or Simpsons reference.

His full name IS a Three Stooges reference - Lawrence "Moe" Curls.

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And yeah, Trilo exploding is great. There's another utterly fantastic animation in 2-4.

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I'm going to be the guy who thinks Moe doesn't suck at all in this case.

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Moe is honestly fine on Day 1 but I do see why people disagree.

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I meant when he starts blathering in the trial, not just generally! I see no connection between clowns and the A-Team or Fresh Prince.

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_SecretSquirrel posted...

I'm going to be the guy who thinks Moe doesn't suck at all in this case.

I actually agree!

Trilo sucks though

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Anagram posted...

- Youre the man now, doll! Man, these 2001-era memes are really not doing it for me. Is there going to be an all your base reference next?

Do you recall what the Steel Samurai's motto was?
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Do you recall what the Steel Samurai's motto was?

I honestly do not.

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Anagram posted...

I meant when he starts blathering in the trial, not just generally! I see no connection between clowns and the A-Team or Fresh Prince.

Well, he turned them into clown-related shows

After all, it was the C-Team

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It was "For great justice".
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the single most dated reference in the series is in the third game

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

It was "For great justice".

Man, I totally do not remember that at all, but okay.

Leonhart4 posted...

Well, he turned them into clown-related shows

After all, it was the C-Team

They're just random and unrelated shows! Simpsons at least has an actual clown and a guy named Moe.

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- Third moment I enjoyed: Acros bird pecking Phoenix.
- Phoenix is a poopeyhead!
- I object for objections sake Sorry, Franziska, youre no Edgeworth.
- Im unclear on how Acro planned to frame Max. He says it, and Phoenix says, but he first has no motive to frame Max other than not wanting to be caught, everyone admits that using the bust was just a random decision, the cloak caught on the bust by mistake, and it doesnt sound like he planned for Moe to see anything.
- Im also unclear on why the Ringmaster wore Maxs cloak and hat at all. Why disguise himself? And if Ben and Trilo saw it was the Ringmaster and greeted him while he was wearing the cloak and hat, why wouldnt that have been brought up?
- Franziska is definitely coming off as incompetent and whiny, by the way. Edgeworth at least always has an air of professionalism even when hes surprised and defeated.
- This is definitely the weakest case so far. Spoilers, its going to be on the bottom of my rankings, unless 2-4 really craps the bed. I saw Acro killing Russel Berry because he wanted to kill Regina coming from a million miles away once I realized she wasnt the murderer.

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transience posted...

the single most dated reference in the series is in the third game

Yeah, but if it's the one I'm thinking of, it's pretty missable. Just a line for presenting irrelevant evidence to a minor character

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2-3 being better than 2-4 in the anime is the biggest plot twist in PW history

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Anagram posted...

- Im unclear on how Acro planned to frame Max.

I don't think he really planned to. It just worked to his advantage that the bust looked like him and someone happened to see it.

Anagram posted...

- Im also unclear on why the Ringmaster wore Maxs cloak and hat at all. Why disguise himself? And if Ben and Trilo saw it was the Ringmaster and greeted him while he was wearing the cloak and hat, why wouldnt that have been brought up?

I think the Ringmaster didn't want to be recognized and he knew nobody liked Max so maybe they would keep their distance if they saw his three symbols (CLOAK! SILK HAT! WHITE ROSES!), but it ended up backfiring. And it did get brought up! It was the key part of Trilo's testimony!

Anagram posted...

- Franziska is definitely coming off as incompetent and whiny, by the way.

Yeah, Franziska isn't good in 2-3. I think in general once you break her confidence in the opening act of 2-2, she gradually gets worse and worse as an opponent.

Also, Acro is great.

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yeah that's it, but I think most people would find it pretty quickly during a standard playthrough, especially because the trigger pointing on that investigation day can be pretty obtuse

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transience posted...

2-3 being better than 2-4 in the anime is the biggest plot twist in PW history

that was indeed a stunner

at least the anime did a good job with 3-5!

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Anagram posted...

Spoilers, its going to be on the bottom of my rankings, unless 2-4 really craps the bed.

2-4 is my favorite case in the series, bar none. Enjoy.

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I don't like how the ending handled Acro. He doesn't deserve to be so sympathetic. Heck, even the fact that he admits that he doesn't deserve sympathy actually serves to make him seem... I dunno, less "bad" than most of the other killers.

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Actually, I just realized, did Franziska ever give a motive for why Max would kill the Ringmaster? Or how he flew away?

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