Poll of the Day > 14-year-old beaten; hospitalized for wearing MAGA hat

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Jen0125
12/17/19 9:47:35 AM
#202:


How about every political party has violent members?

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Noop_Noop
12/17/19 9:50:02 AM
#203:


Far-Queue posted...
Imagine you having reading comprehension.

Saying someone can be instigated into mailing pipe bombs to people is giving them an excuse for an inexcusable action. Prefacing that by saying "doesn't make it right" doesn't take away the fact that they're attempting to excuse the inexcusable

You mean like how people have been excusing this kids assailants for assaulting someone?

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Far-Queue
12/17/19 10:10:50 AM
#204:


Noop_Noop posted...
You mean like how people have been excusing this kids assailants for assaulting someone?
They're two separate incidents with their own set of circumstances surrounding them, so they're not the same and comparing them is a bit moot.

That said, I do not excuse the assailants for resorting to violence in this instance

Also, to the dummies who think the pipebombs are BS, try crawling out from the rock you're under and checking the news once in a while

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pipe-bomb-mailer-cesar-sayoc-sentenced


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Phantom_Nook
12/17/19 10:13:13 AM
#205:


DPsx7 posted...
Yeah, so the pipe bomb stuff is BS.

Nope, it definitely happened.
He influenced nobody.

The Magabomber specifically said he was influenced by Trump when he pled guilty to sending pipe bombs to multiple Dems.
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The_tall_midget
12/17/19 10:43:49 AM
#206:


Jen0125 posted...
How about every political party has violent members?

Yeah, we can see that in this thread. From people who believe themselves to be good people.

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Jen0125
12/17/19 11:09:48 AM
#207:


The_tall_midget posted...
Yeah, we can see that in this thread. From people who believe themselves to be good people.

I don't know why to bother to quote or reply to me. You're an extremist and I am not going to engage with you in a meaningful way because you never argue anything in good faith.

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DPsx7
12/17/19 11:19:55 AM
#208:


Jen0125 posted...
I don't know why to bother to quote or reply to me. You're an extremist and I am not going to engage with you in a meaningful way because you never argue anything in good faith.

You want to hit people you hate filled freak. GTFO. How can you even write that with a straight face or a shred of decency?

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Kyuubi4269
12/17/19 11:23:31 AM
#209:


Far-Queue posted...
Saying someone can be instigated into mailing pipe bombs to people is giving them an excuse for an inexcusable action. Prefacing that by saying "doesn't make it right" doesn't take away the fact that they're attempting to excuse the inexcusable

It's explaining, not excusing.

You have explanations to understand the circumstances and how they came about, you have excuses to morally neutralise the point.

They're very different and conflating the two is a ridiculous and extreme view that only serves to flex your moral standing.

Allow me to put it this way; there's nothing morally wrong with lighting candles, it doesn't cause any problems in a normal circumstance. A gas leak is definitely not a good thing, we can comfortably agree that leaking gas = no good.

If someone lights a candle and sets off the gas leak burning down the building, you can say that they burnt down the building by lighting the candle. The person is not bad for doing what they did but we can explain that the issue was instigated by the candle lighter.

We can also say that someone starting a gas leak is a bad person and that the first person igniting the gas does not excuse the act, but it does explain the situation and outlines what could be done differently.

You don't have to be wrong to be able to change your actions and avoid bad things occuring. Bad people don't have to be excused to try to mitigate their damage.
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Far-Queue
12/17/19 11:35:46 AM
#210:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's explaining, not excusing.

You have explanations to understand the circumstances and how they came about, you have excuses to morally neutralise the point.

They're very different and conflating the two is a ridiculous and extreme view that only serves to flex your moral standing.
Nice try, but trying to explain how someone could do something so reprehensible is offering reason for the unreasonable. Trying to make it relatable. You're diminishing the horrible reality of Sayoc's actions by saying "Eh, it's understandable given how he was pushed to do it because reasons..." That's making excuses, bucko. Try again.

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Kyuubi4269
12/17/19 11:40:34 AM
#211:


Far-Queue posted...
but trying to explain how someone could do something so reprehensible is offering reason for the unreasonable.

It's trying to process the unknown. I'd rather know why somebody wants to hurt me than just get mad at them as I'd like to avoid that more than get on a high horse and cry.

Far-Queue posted...
You're diminishing the horrible reality of Sayoc's actions

Or... Get this. Setting aside moral outrage to get a workable solution to future incidents.
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DPsx7
12/17/19 11:41:47 AM
#212:


Far-Queue posted...
Nice try, but trying to explain how someone could do something so reprehensible is offering reason for the unreasonable. Trying to make it relatable. You're diminishing the horrible reality of Sayoc's actions by saying "Eh, it's understandable given how he was pushed to do it because reasons..." That's making excuses, bucko. Try again.

Just admit you're wrong and stop moving goalposts. If supporters were ever violent it wasn't to the degree the haters are spreading it.


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TyVulpine
12/17/19 11:50:14 AM
#213:


Noop_Noop posted...
the tolerant left lol
Like the right is any more tolerant? I mean:
Snowflake
Liberal + certain other word combined to make a new word that I can't post here
Hitlery
Killary
Obummer
Oblamer
Oblunder
Ovomit
DemoRat
Demonrat
Deomocrap


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Kyuubi4269
12/17/19 11:50:38 AM
#214:


Babe, is this how you approach crime?

https://i.imgur.com/cO3wNh6.png

I mean to do otherwise would suggest that there's means for an innocent person to avoid crime without justifying the criminals actions.
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Kyuubi4269
12/17/19 11:54:21 AM
#215:


TyVulpine posted...

Like the right is any more tolerant? I mean:
Snowflake
Liberal + certain other word combined to make a new word that I can't post here
Hitlery
Killary
Obummer
Oblamer
Oblunder
Ovomit
DemoRat
Demonrat
Deomocrap



Tolerance isn't part of right wing philosophy? One of the major distinctions between left and right is that the left will take risks to progress while the right will chop off the gangrenous limb to save the body.
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Far-Queue
12/17/19 12:18:54 PM
#216:


Dumbasses: "Pipe bombs are less violent than fists."

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Far-Queue
12/17/19 12:19:26 PM
#217:


Also, Kyuubi keeps finding ways to lose the same argument lol

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Phantom_Nook
12/17/19 12:22:38 PM
#218:


Ooh, next defend the Charlottesville murder!
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Mead
12/17/19 12:25:08 PM
#219:


Phantom_Nook posted...
Ooh, next defend the Charlottesville murder!

@Zeus

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Jen0125
12/17/19 12:25:35 PM
#220:


Mead posted...
@ Zeus


Whyyy

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Mead
12/17/19 12:27:41 PM
#221:


Jen0125 posted...
Whyyy

I want to hear the centrist viewpoint

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Kyuubi4269
12/17/19 12:30:28 PM
#222:


Far-Queue posted...
Also, Kyuubi keeps finding ways to lose the same argument lol

You're the one who abandoned his point.
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Far-Queue
12/17/19 12:37:05 PM
#223:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
You're the one who abandoned his point.
No I haven't. You haven't provided a decent enough counterpoint for me to need to reinforce mine. Just go back and read my prior posts until it sinks into that big brain of yours

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Kyuubi4269
12/17/19 12:39:53 PM
#224:


Far-Queue posted...

No I haven't. You haven't provided a decent enough counterpoint for me to need to reinforce mine. Just go back and read my prior posts until it sinks into that big brain of yours

Oh, then I also declare myself winner. Yay, arguments are easy when you don't engage.
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Far-Queue
12/17/19 12:40:12 PM
#225:


OK bub

"I choose to remain ignorant" is a surefire way to win an argument lmao

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Revelation34
12/17/19 6:50:21 PM
#226:


DPsx7 posted...
Wow. This is why... Yet in an earlier post you thought I was laughable. I don't like to wish harm on anyone so maybe I'll just hope your hair falls out so you can look every bit as embarassing as you act.


You are though. You call Steam malware.

Jen0125 posted...
You're an extremist and I am not going to engage with you in a meaningful way because you never argue anything in good faith.


That's pretty hilarious coming from somebody who thinks wearing a hat makes a person a racist.

TyVulpine posted...
Like the right is any more tolerant? I mean:
Snowflake
Liberal + certain other word combined to make a new word that I can't post here
Hitlery
Killary
Obummer
Oblamer
Oblunder
Ovomit
DemoRat
Demonrat
Deomocrap


You can find the same amount for republicans too. I've also seen liberals use snowflake which is funny to me.
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Yellow
12/17/19 8:01:40 PM
#227:


Obummer
Killary

Hey, I say this all the time. Pretty accurate too.

And Republicans cannot copyright special snowflake, one of my favorite quotes from Fight Club, an anti-consumerism movie.

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Jen0125
12/17/19 8:56:06 PM
#228:


Revelation34 posted...


That's pretty hilarious coming from somebody who thinks wearing a hat makes a person a racist.

I didn't say that.

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DPsx7
12/17/19 9:31:01 PM
#229:


Jen0125 posted...
I didn't say that.

*Goalposts*

Careful Rev, you may get called racist for calling her out.

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OhhhJa
12/17/19 9:32:28 PM
#230:


Jen0125 posted...
I didn't say that.
No. You said that the kid is racist because his mom is racist because she simply said black kids attacked her son. Lol. You embody every negative stereotype of the anti trump crowd
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Jen0125
12/17/19 9:34:07 PM
#231:


OhhhJa posted...
No. You said that the kid is racist because his mom is racist because she simply said black kids attacked her son. Lol. You embody every negative stereotype of the anti trump crowd

I just said I don't feel bad when racists get punched.

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OhhhJa
12/17/19 9:35:43 PM
#232:


Only if you're white can you be attacked by multiple people of another race and be accused of being the racist. What an inversion of reality these anti trumpers have lol
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DeathMagnetic80
12/17/19 11:15:04 PM
#233:


OhhhJa posted...
Only if you're white can you be attacked by multiple people of another race and be accused of being the racist. What an inversion of reality these anti trumpers have lol

I don't know what happened, but it's like that video of a kid crying about being bullied went viral, and then it came out that he was "bullied" because he was a little jerk and would do shit like drop N bombs at school and it caught up to him.
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Revelation34
12/17/19 11:17:37 PM
#234:


Jen0125 posted...

I just said I don't feel bad when racists get punched.


"Maybe he was jumped by 8 black kids because he's a little racist like his mom?" No you said you think he's racist because he wore a hat.
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Jen0125
12/18/19 12:16:56 AM
#235:


Revelation34 posted...
"Maybe he was jumped by 8 black kids because he's a little racist like his mom?" No you said you think he's racist because he wore a hat.

No, I sure didn't.

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Revelation34
12/18/19 12:20:14 AM
#236:


Jen0125 posted...
No, I sure didn't.


He wore a hat and then you called him a "little racist"
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DPsx7
12/18/19 12:20:43 AM
#237:


Jen0125 posted...
No, I sure didn't.

It's on the first page. You're a terrible liar.

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Rooster_Sucker
12/18/19 12:26:55 AM
#238:


Revelation34 posted...
He wore a hat and then you called him a "little racist"
Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out she's inferring the mother being racist could mean that the boy is racist.

Racist apples typically don't fall far from the racist tree.

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Revelation34
12/18/19 12:34:51 AM
#239:


Rooster_Sucker posted...
Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out she's inferring the mother being racist could mean that the boy is racist.

Racist apples typically don't fall far from the racist tree.


"because he's a little racist" That's a statement of fact, not inference.
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Rooster_Sucker
12/18/19 12:36:14 AM
#240:


Well, you're clearly no rocket surgeon.

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OhhhJa
12/18/19 12:37:19 AM
#241:


Rooster_Sucker posted...
Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out she's inferring the mother being racist could mean that the boy is racist.

Racist apples typically don't fall far from the racist tree.
Still failing to see how the mother saying her son was attacked by a group of black kids makes her racist but, by all means, go ahead and keep grasping at straws
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Rooster_Sucker
12/18/19 12:38:20 AM
#242:


Rooster_Sucker posted...
Well, you're clearly no rocket surgeon.


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Keebs05
12/18/19 12:39:41 AM
#243:


OhhhJa posted...
Still failing to see how the mother saying her son was attacked by a group of black kids makes her racist but, by all means, go ahead and keep grasping at straws

I think it's the "And who's the violent ones again?" that may push it into racist territory.

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Rooster_Sucker
12/18/19 12:44:40 AM
#244:


Hey look who's paying attention! Great work, Keebs muh boy.

Hopefully the rest of the class catches up to you.

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OhhhJa
12/18/19 12:45:50 AM
#245:


Keebs05 posted...
I think it's the "And who's the violent ones again?" that may push it into racist territory.
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OhhhJa
12/18/19 12:46:54 AM
#246:


Rooster_Sucker posted...
Hey look who's paying attention! Great work, Keebs muh boy.

Hopefully the rest of the class catches up to you.
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TyVulpine
12/18/19 1:22:28 AM
#247:


Yellow posted...
Hey, I say this all the time. Pretty accurate too.

And Republicans cannot copyright special snowflake, one of my favorite quotes from Fight Club, an anti-consumerism movie.
Considering Hillary has never actually been charged with, much less convicted of, killing someone, calling her that doesn't make sense. (Innocent until proven guilty)

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Mead
12/18/19 2:40:23 AM
#248:


TyVulpine posted...
Considering Hillary has never actually been charged with, much less convicted of, killing someone, calling her that doesn't make sense. (Innocent until proven guilty)

but she Benghazid millions of innocents

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
12/18/19 3:10:27 AM
#249:


Mead posted...
but she Benghazid millions of innocents

Gross. Reading that I pictured a sex act with hummus.

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Far-Queue
12/18/19 7:18:28 AM
#250:


FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Gross. Reading that I pictured a sex act with hummus.
Well, that's what it is so...

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Revelation34
12/18/19 9:30:50 AM
#251:


Rooster_Sucker posted...
Well, you're clearly no rocket surgeon.


Ironic coming from somebody who clearly can't read.
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