Poll of the Day > US City to create Reparations Fund for Blacks...

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https://news.yahoo.com/us-city-pay-reparations-african-144159498.html

With a 3% Tax on Cannabis Sativa to pay into a fund for Blacks to have access to.

So will they/we get a 'Reparations' Black Card or some shhh...?

I think they can see if you're black
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

I think they can see if you're black

That's racist.
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I get the idea behind it but dividing up government assistance programs based on skin color doesnt seem like the best direction for the country to head down

Id rather see them use the money to help low income areas, which often have many black residents so it would still help the black community without being discriminatory

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Lokarin posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

I think they can see if you're black

That's racist.

Reparations definitely are.
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So what about poor white people? Do they not get any help just because they're white? That seems a little racist to me.

This is dumb.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Lokarin posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

I think they can see if you're black

That's racist.

Reparations definitely are.

No, it's not.
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Yay free stuff for nothing!

Mead posted...

I get the idea behind it but dividing up government assistance programs based on skin color doesnt seem like the best direction for the country to head down

Id rather see them use the money to help low income areas, which often have many black residents so it would still help the black community without being discriminatory

While that would probably be more effective, the nature of reparations is that they're specific to the population that has been wronged, in an effort to compensate for that wrong. In the case of slavery and subsequent systemic racism in America, that line does get drawn on the basis of skin colour.

Now, the fact that it's applying to all black people and not just those with ancestral ties to slaves? That's pretty silly.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Reparations definitely are.

Not inherently. Reparations are (in theory) doled out based on association to some historical wrongdoing. It just so happens that a lot of historical wrongdoing has had a racial element to it because people have always been racist dickbags. There's no reason reparations couldn't be given out to, say, the residents of a mining town that lost a sizable number of residents in a mining disaster, paid out by all parties that can be associated with creating or profiting from the unsafe working conditions that triggered it.

CaptainStrong posted...

So what about poor white people? Do they not get any help just because they're white? That seems a little racist to me.

Poor white people would not receive reparations for the slavery of black people, no. Other varieties of income assistance? Sure. But not reparations for slavery.
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I have a black middle name, possibly have some black or native ancestry and/or identify as black on a particular day. Can I get in on this action?

So if the Black community of Evanston buys marijuana in Evanston, they are paying their own reparations? Or are they exempt from the 3% marijuana tax?
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Oh my god, can we can black cards?
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EvilMegas posted...

No, it's not.

It is though. It's not giving from slave-backed organisations to identifiably effected by slavery people (which is unbelievably difficult to actually establish, and still a little racist as it targets people who haven't associated with slavery personally). It's giving to a race that may or may not have been effected by taking from the general population who's mostly unassociated with slavery.

It assumes you need compensation for wrongdoing because you're black, but Europeans oppressed by historic slavery weren't so helpless. It implies racial inferiority and penalises people for the colour of their skin, not the actions they did.
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So are they going to create a database determining if citizens are black or have black anscenstry? This does not sound like a good idea.
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EvilMegas posted...

Oh my god, can we can black cards?

lol

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wolfy42 posted...

So are they going to create a database determining if citizens are black or have black anscenstry? This does not sound like a good idea.

There is one for Native Americans. My great-grandmother is in it, same as me, my brother and my father.
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I like the idea of weed helping the unfortunate. Maybe instead of fund make it a charity.

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adjl posted...

Poor white people would not receive reparations for the slavery of black people, no. Other varieties of income assistance? Sure. But not reparations for slavery.

Reparations for slavery should have happened 150 years ago. No one should get money just because their great great great great grandparents went through some horrible shit. What they really should do is help all poor people, regardless of race.

pionear posted...

https://news.yahoo.com/us-city-pay-reparations-african-144159498.html

With a 3% Tax on Cannabis Sativa to pay into a fund for Blacks to have access to.

So will they/we get a 'Reparations' Black Card or some shhh...?

We already had reparations for Blacks. 875,000 men lost their lives over 150 years ago, just to free them from slavery.

Is that not payment enough, especially for something that absolutely NONE of them went through?

Kyuubi4269 posted...

I think they can see if you're black

not when someone can identify as black
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Dear white people,


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TheWorstPoster posted...

Is that not payment enough, especially for something that absolutely NONE of them went through?

https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/american-civil-war/black-civil-war-soldiers

"Sixteen black soldiers won the Congressional Medal of Honor for their brave service in the Civil War."
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Who even said anything about slavery

just look at all the black folks in prison for something as dumb as having a little weed

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SunWuKung420 posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

Is that not payment enough, especially for something that absolutely NONE of them went through?

https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/american-civil-war/black-civil-war-soldiers

"Sixteen black soldiers won the Congressional Medal of Honor for their brave service in the Civil War."

That is not even remotely what I meant to begin with.

What I meant to say is that why should we give Black Americans reparations when absolutely no slaves are alive today?

Mead posted...

Who even said anything about slavery

just look at all the black folks in prison for something as dumb as having a little weed

Which is the reason the M.O.R.E Act sets a 5% federal cannabis tax, all those people jailed for scary marijuana. But Ico is just showing his blatant racism by saying black people didn't fight in the civil war.
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CaptainStrong posted...

adjl posted...

Poor white people would not receive reparations for the slavery of black people, no. Other varieties of income assistance? Sure. But not reparations for slavery.

Reparations for slavery should have happened 150 years ago. No one should get money just because their great great great great grandparents went through some horrible shit. What they really should do is help all poor people, regardless of race.

Realistically, yeah. While the impacts of slavery are still felt by black Americans, the fact of the matter is that that disadvantage is not unique to blacks and this money would be better spent on all low-income groups than on a token gesture that will be completely wasted on the black people that have managed to overcome their disadvantages.

TheWorstPoster posted...

pionear posted...

https://news.yahoo.com/us-city-pay-reparations-african-144159498.html

With a 3% Tax on Cannabis Sativa to pay into a fund for Blacks to have access to.

So will they/we get a 'Reparations' Black Card or some shhh...?

We already had reparations for Blacks. 875,000 men lost their lives over 150 years ago, just to free them from slavery.

Is that not payment enough, especially for something that absolutely NONE of them went through?

Are you really suggesting that the Civil War was only about slavery?
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adjl posted...

Are you really suggesting that the Civil War was only about slavery?

No. It was one of the biggest factors for the cause of the war however.

TheWorstPoster posted...

adjl posted...

Are you really suggesting that the Civil War was only about slavery?

No. It was one of the biggest factors for the cause of the war however.

TheWorstPoster posted...

just to free them from slavery.

Pick one.
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adjl posted...

Pick one.

States rights. Southern States were concerned about the expansion of Federalism, rather than having a strong state government.

So the people who died in the Civil War didn't do so to free the slaves. Good to know you were so attached to your initial point.
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TheWorstPoster posted...

pionear posted...

https://news.yahoo.com/us-city-pay-reparations-african-144159498.html

With a 3% Tax on Cannabis Sativa to pay into a fund for Blacks to have access to.

So will they/we get a 'Reparations' Black Card or some shhh...?

We already had reparations for Blacks. 875,000 men lost their lives over 150 years ago, just to free them from slavery.

Is that not payment enough, especially for something that absolutely NONE of them went through?

You cant be serious.

ESMWjot posted...

You cant be serious.

This is Gfaqs PotD...what else do you expect?

*Shrug* A lot of people seem to not understand the point of reparations, largely due to ignorance about history, law, and society at large, particularly post-Civil War stuff.

I'll put it as simply as possible. You know how when someone is treated like garbage by someone else, the victim or the family members of the victims can sue for damages? Reparations are kind of like that, just on a broader scale due to the pervasive systemic effects of slavery, Jim Crow (red-lining, etc), and use of the exceptions written in the Constitution allowing for the continued enslavement of black people by abusing the justice system (aka, mass incarceration in for profit prisons). It's not about "handouts" anymore than the parents of Sandy Hook victims suing Alex Jones is a matter of "handouts." It's a matter of justice.

As for my personal thoughts on it, I don't object to reparations, though I have mixed feelings about its implementation (personally I think the subject does need to be studied more first. Cory Booker is not a politician I like but he's right in that it ought to be studied thoroughly before we attempt to implement it on a broad scale). In particular I think that reparations need to be implemented in such a way that predatory organizations can't get their hands on the money. That is something that happens a lot with systems like this- probably the most obvious example is predatory groups preying on people of color from red-lined areas that have lead poisoning, with Freddie Grey being the standout instance:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f2a6/66d0c425cdb7e8f19bae3878f56df2e36c94.pdf
If reparations are to be done, then they ought to be done properly so that the money/resources in question actually get into the hands of the people they're meant to.

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ESMWjot posted...

You cant be serious.

Hes serious. Ya gotta remember he asks women about poop or pee.

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Mead posted...

I get the idea behind it but dividing up government assistance programs based on skin color doesnt seem like the best direction for the country to head down

I don't see why not. Think of the wonderful society we could live in if only we offered services to people based upon color. Hell, maybe we could have black only schools or drinking fountains.

Truly a utopia.


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