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Fossil
11/27/19 5:51:38 PM
#53:


LightningAce11 posted...
Funny considering the american military is the largest terrorist organization in the world.

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Pogo_Marimo
11/27/19 5:53:42 PM
#54:


Esrac posted...


I say annex Mexico, using the military to hit the cartels within Mexico as hard as we can, then carve Mexico up into several states and give all the Mexicans American citizenship. Don't have to worry about Mexicans crossing the border illegally if you extend the border to take Mexico as our own and the narrower border at the southern end of Mexico would probably be easier to manage, so you don't have to debate building a useless wall from California to Texas.
Okay, guys, don't associate my post with this warmongerer. I do not condone annexing countries because their existence is inconvenient to you.

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YugiNoob
11/27/19 5:54:35 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
YugiNoob posted...
Because that's what you're saying; you just won't let those words out of your mouth

Its not what Im saying at all. Im saying its not as easy as legalize drugs and the cartels go away. Quit trolling.

Point out where I said either I want drugs legalized or that legalizing drugs makes cartels go away. Because I haven't said either of those things. Ever. Learn to read instead of resorting to unfounded personal attacks.
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vigorm0rtis
11/27/19 5:55:40 PM
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YugiNoob posted...
"So let's just let them keep selling drugs instead of getting rid of the problem"


The point they're making is that this isn't going to get rid of the problem. There's really nothing we can do as a foreign power about cartels. I mean... we could prop up the Mexican economy and bribe corrupt officials (see: what we did in Afghanistan) but Mexico's too big for us to take on that economic load.

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vigorm0rtis
11/27/19 5:56:32 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Legalize what? Weed, sure. But I just can't see an argument to legalizing heroine and meth.


Meth, no, but heroin? Methadone clinics would probably do some good, at least in the short-term.

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Makeveli_lives
11/27/19 5:57:02 PM
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I'm currently finally finishing up Narcos on Netflix so I'm not against this. Cartel should always be considered Narcoterrorist imo.

Bring in the Search Bloc and hook em up with that good shit.

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YugiNoob
11/27/19 5:57:41 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I jumped to conclusions and made half-assed assumptions but won't admit that I'm wrong

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Esrac
11/27/19 5:57:50 PM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
so what. its easier to smuggle drugs than people. not legalizing is stupid.


Not everyone wants to enable drug use by legalizing it.
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Elmer_Glue
11/27/19 5:58:45 PM
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The Cartels control the Mexican gov't, war there makes more sense than the ME.
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Esrac
11/27/19 6:01:16 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Okay, guys, don't associate my post with this warmongerer. I do not condone annexing countries because their existence is inconvenient to you.


I'm entirely in favor of a United North American Empire.

Let's take Canada too. Maybe the influx of left-leaning citizens into our empire will finally get some sensible healthcare laws passed.
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monkeysRfunny
11/27/19 6:01:58 PM
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Wow shock is still going at it full force with his liberal butthurt
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YugiNoob
11/27/19 6:04:16 PM
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Nice deflection, but that post is still what you're saying. Unless you can tell me what you really meant that post to mean? And I'm still waiting on you to answer my question.

YugiNoob posted...
Point out where I said either I want drugs legalized or that legalizing drugs makes cartels go away. Because I haven't said either of those things. Ever. Learn to read instead of resorting to unfounded personal attacks.

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YugiNoob
11/27/19 6:10:16 PM
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Fine, I'll just stop responding since you would prefer to respond childishly than to have a real debate.
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Kazi1212
11/27/19 6:13:18 PM
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The one thing I dont agree with Trump on, I fear this will escalate military action in the southern border
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Keith_Valentine
11/27/19 6:16:49 PM
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Time to kick some cartel ass.
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Esrac
11/27/19 6:17:59 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
The one thing I dont agree with Trump on, I fear this will escalate military action in the southern border


The one thing?


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Unsugarized_Foo
11/27/19 6:27:23 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
At least the cartels are more logic driven... Just starve them of what they need. I smell legalization of more drugs. Use the taxes to bomb them


If we knew where they were, we'd already take care of them. I'm getting the sense you haven't thought this through.


We ain't even playing in the same ball park with them right now. Think if Uncle Sam had El Chapo's boy, that we'd let him go? Mexico needs a traveling D1 team to walk in on their D3 affair
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SixStringHero
11/27/19 7:10:16 PM
#74:


Bio1590 posted...
Cartels: "Terrorists"
White Nationalists: "Some very fine people on both sides"


Im not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.
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fohstick
11/27/19 7:18:16 PM
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did trump build the wall yet?
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Webmaster4531
11/27/19 7:19:38 PM
#76:


s0nicfan posted...
When a group is designated as a terrorist organisation in the US, it becomes illegal for people in the US to knowingly offer support.

Well then this is pointless it's just like how child labor is still being used for American products.
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IShall_Run_Amok
11/27/19 7:20:02 PM
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America is ill equipped to deal with terrorism, so this is pretty much in line with the way we've handled the war on drugs.

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Umbreon
11/27/19 7:21:53 PM
#78:


There's a saying about broken clocks.
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AlecSkorpio
11/27/19 7:42:46 PM
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I had this idea for a story involving us backed mercenaries going after cartels like 3 years ago and this was the fucking background for it.

God damn I should have got on that story
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Skye Reynolds
11/27/19 7:44:38 PM
#80:


Drug dealers are good guys now 'cause Trump doesn't like them.
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creativerealms
11/27/19 7:48:56 PM
#81:


Fair. They are.

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SSMajinVegeta2
11/27/19 7:53:01 PM
#82:


LightningAce11 posted...
Funny considering the american military is the largest terrorist organization in the world.


stay mad

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SSMajinVegeta2
11/27/19 7:54:04 PM
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Theres a movie about this. It came out last summer

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Umbreon
11/27/19 7:56:10 PM
#84:


Skye Reynolds posted...
Drug dealers are good guys now 'cause Trump doesn't like them.


You know no one who says anything like that is sincere....
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Skye Reynolds
11/27/19 8:02:46 PM
#85:


Umbreon posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Drug dealers are good guys now 'cause Trump doesn't like them.


You know no one who says anything like that is sincere....


I don't know. If the oompa loompa gets reelected, I can imagine there being a film in 2021 which has a cartel member who is "just trying to feed his family" while fending off the evils of capitalism, bigotry, and American hegemony. That, or go the V for Vendetta route and have the powers that be label all rebels against them as "cartels."

Hell, maybe the term cartel will appear in a future Star Wars movie.
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Umbreon
11/27/19 8:06:23 PM
#86:


You're an actual human being trying to suggest to another human being that a group of people as monstrous as the fucking drug cartels will be made sympathetic because of Trump.

You're insisting this isn't a parody?
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Skye Reynolds
11/27/19 8:11:49 PM
#87:


Umbreon posted...
You're an actual human being trying to suggest to another human being that a group of people as monstrous as the fucking drug cartels will be made sympathetic because of Trump.

You're insisting this isn't a parody?


Look at V for Vendetta. The good guy's a "terrorist" because the bad guys are an exaggerated fascist stand-in for the Bush administration.

However V was depicted in the graphic novel, the film treats him as wholly justified. And whether or not his actions make him a terrorist, it is the term used by the bad guys to describe him because it's how Bush labeled America's enemies at the time.
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mustachedmystic
11/27/19 8:22:10 PM
#88:


monkeysRfunny posted...
Why are people questioning this again? Besides having an "Everything Trump does is bad" mindset, of course.


Just because you're a bad guy, it doesn't mean you are a terrorist. Unless I'm wrong(correct me if I am) the cartels don't give a damn about politics, they just wanna sell us drugs.
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Webmaster4531
11/27/19 8:22:30 PM
#89:


Skye Reynolds posted...
Umbreon posted...
You're an actual human being trying to suggest to another human being that a group of people as monstrous as the fucking drug cartels will be made sympathetic because of Trump.

You're insisting this isn't a parody?


Look at V for Vendetta. The good guy's a "terrorist" because the bad guys are an exaggerated fascist stand-in for the Bush administration.

However V was depicted in the graphic novel, the film treats him as wholly justified. And whether or not his actions make him a terrorist, it is the term used by the bad guys to describe him because it's how Bush labeled America's enemies at the time.

It's called V for Vendetta not H for Hero.
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BobanMarjanovic
11/27/19 8:23:55 PM
#90:


LightningAce11 posted...
Funny considering the american military is the largest terrorist organization in the world.
Lol

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Gamerguymass
11/27/19 8:25:50 PM
#91:


Esrac posted...
I'm entirely in favor of a United North American Empire.

Let's take Canada too. Maybe the influx of left-leaning citizens into our empire will finally get some sensible healthcare laws passed.


There are less people in the entirety of Canada then there is in the state of California alone, so this won't work out for you as well as you think it will. As for Mexico there are over a 100 million of them, but Mexicans are overwhelmingly Catholic and they tend to be conservative. If anything this will have the opposite effect you are hoping for.

That said I'm not opposed to the idea, not necessarily by force, the problem is Mexico speaks Spanish. Things never work out when a country has multiple languages spoken in it. There already issues with that in America. Then theres Quebec which speaks French and the rest of Canada fucking hates them. So we would have to mandate English as the official language, which is just going to cause a shitstorm when you tell a 100 million+ Mexicans they now have to learn and speak English instead of Spanish

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kayoticdreamz
11/27/19 8:26:54 PM
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I'm sure someone is spinning this to make Trump look bad, I can only imagine how bad the liberal spin here is lol
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deanshow
11/27/19 8:28:07 PM
#93:


YugiNoob posted...
"So let's just let them keep selling drugs instead of getting rid of the problem"
Your argument is dumb and you're not looking at what others are telling you. The cartels also deal in sex trafficking, guns, and other avenues of business, drugs is the tip of the iceberg. If anything, it should be on Americans to stop using cocaine, fucking underaged girls across other countries, and buying illegal assault rifles.

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1NfamousACE_2
11/27/19 8:44:42 PM
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So will the US government stop selling them drugs?

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Skye Reynolds
11/27/19 8:48:17 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Umbreon posted...
You're an actual human being trying to suggest to another human being that a group of people as monstrous as the fucking drug cartels will be made sympathetic because of Trump.

You're insisting this isn't a parody?


Look at V for Vendetta. The good guy's a "terrorist" because the bad guys are an exaggerated fascist stand-in for the Bush administration.

However V was depicted in the graphic novel, the film treats him as wholly justified. And whether or not his actions make him a terrorist, it is the term used by the bad guys to describe him because it's how Bush labeled America's enemies at the time.

It's called V for Vendetta not H for Hero.


Something Alan Moore called the movie out on.
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Webmaster4531
11/27/19 9:08:50 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Umbreon posted...
You're an actual human being trying to suggest to another human being that a group of people as monstrous as the fucking drug cartels will be made sympathetic because of Trump.

You're insisting this isn't a parody?


Look at V for Vendetta. The good guy's a "terrorist" because the bad guys are an exaggerated fascist stand-in for the Bush administration.

However V was depicted in the graphic novel, the film treats him as wholly justified. And whether or not his actions make him a terrorist, it is the term used by the bad guys to describe him because it's how Bush labeled America's enemies at the time.

It's called V for Vendetta not H for Hero.


Something Alan Moore called the movie out on.

Been a while since I seen it but I don't remember them depicting him as a hero. He tortures a woman and it's implied V went through the same torture or worse.
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Skye Reynolds
11/27/19 9:13:38 PM
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He does awful things. They sweep it under the rug more or less. The point is that the bad guys call him a terrorist and the film frames him in such a manner that we're supposed to want to see him win.
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nativengine
11/27/19 9:15:56 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
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Webmaster4531
11/27/19 9:23:09 PM
#100:


Skye Reynolds posted...
He does awful things. They sweep it under the rug more or less. The point is that the bad guys call him a terrorist and the film frames him in such a manner that we're supposed to want to see him win.

Is it more or less? I don't see you having much of a point. Why wouldn't we want V to win?
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Roxborough4Ever
11/27/19 9:27:10 PM
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If Mexico really cared, they would stop the cartels....but leave it to those with blind Trump hate that wanting to stop the flow of drugs is somehow "racist"
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Unsugarized_Foo
11/27/19 9:30:01 PM
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metallica846 posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
We ain't even playing in the same ball park with them right now. Think if Uncle Sam had El Chapo's boy, that we'd let him go? Mexico needs a traveling D1 team to walk in on their D3 affair


Ask Duke how that worked out.


Bruh. They deserved that win though. Duke's even my team
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