Current Events > Sweden: over 100 bombings this year.

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/kraftig-okning-av-antalet-sprangdad
"the number of bombings has increased to 120 from january to july, compared to 83 the same period last year, a third of which took place in the Skne region (Southern tip of the country)
"one can only really speculate as to why. We have an increased problem with crime and exclusion"
says the regional police chief Investigator

https://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/kriminolog-sverige-j%C3%A4mf%C3%B6rbart-med-krigszoner-1.19931841

"The wave of explosions in Sweden is unparalleled in Europe and can almost be compared to war zones and countries with a long history of terrorism."
says one criminologist
Researchers are uncertain why this development is only happening in Sweden and not in countries that are otherwise comparable.

it's almost a miracle that almost no one has gotten badly injured

hell, at last of october/ 1 november, malm alone, got at least 3 explosions in less than 24 hours
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Dayum

Good thing nobody's hurt
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What's the cause?

Is this exclusive to Sweden or other Scandinavian countries too?

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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

What's the cause?

refugees/immigrants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-right-swedens-crime-immigration-problems/

Whoops right again.

Autocraticus posted...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-right-swedens-crime-immigration-problems/

Whoops right again.

You didn't even read the article. It doesn't link immigration to the rise in crime.

It lists an instances of foreign terrorism:

In 2010 it became the first Nordic country to be hit hit by an attack linked to Islamic terror. The two bombs which detonated in the capital killed only the bomber, Iraqi born Taimour Abdulwahab.

Since then one Isil inspired plot to make pressure bombs was disrupted by police and in 2016 a teaching assistant and a male student in a school in an immigrant area were killed in a racially motivated sword attack.

Then it gives us the figures, and the conclusion by its own officials.

But officials say that one of the biggest problems is not rising levels of crime but the perception of crime - with residents believing it is on the rise and immigrants bearing the brunt of the blame.

Studies by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention has found that the majority of those suspected of crimes were born in Sweden to two Swedish-born parents but people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes.

In addition, it doesn't make sense for these bombings to come from the immigrants: Most of them are attributed to hand grenades leftover from the Yugoslav Wars, being illegally imported from the Balkans.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/annu-en-handgranat-sprangs-i-malmo

So, thanks for helping to disprove your own bullshit.
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Guide posted...

Autocraticus posted...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-right-swedens-crime-immigration-problems/

Whoops right again.

You didn't even read the article. It doesn't link immigration to the rise in crime.

It lists an instances of foreign terrorism:

In 2010 it became the first Nordic country to be hit hit by an attack linked to Islamic terror. The two bombs which detonated in the capital killed only the bomber, Iraqi born Taimour Abdulwahab.

Since then one Isil inspired plot to make pressure bombs was disrupted by police and in 2016 a teaching assistant and a male student in a school in an immigrant area were killed in a racially motivated sword attack.

Then it gives us the figures, and the conclusion by its own officials.

But officials say that one of the biggest problems is not rising levels of crime but the perception of crime - with residents believing it is on the rise and immigrants bearing the brunt of the blame.

Studies by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention has found that the majority of those suspected of crimes were born in Sweden to two Swedish-born parents but people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes.

In addition, it doesn't make sense for these bombings to come from the immigrants: Most of them are attributed to hand grenades leftover from the Yugoslav Wars, being illegally imported from the Balkans.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/annu-en-handgranat-sprangs-i-malmo

So, thanks for helping to disprove your own bullshit.

I never said immigrants caused the bombings. All I said was that Trump was correct about the terrorism when everyone was so quick to dismiss his claims. Like Sweden is some paradise.

Edit: fixed some spelling. Trump is a blowhard and blames immigrants for everything but I am stating that terrorism, foreign or domestic, is an issue.

ROBANN_88 posted...

one can only really speculate as to why.

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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

What's the cause?

Motives unknown.
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i have to research why this is happening, nobody has figured it out but i will.
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Are the Swedish violent people?

I thought Scandinavia was a European utopia!?

What if they tried, idk, banning bombs?

Criminal gangs buys imported weapons from Balkan, and they are getting grenades for free.
Why not use them if you got access to them
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the good news is that there's only so many leftover grenades from the yugoslav wars
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Yeah I'm sure refugees fled from explosives in their countries to go and play with explosives in Sweden, that makes sense.
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Stay safe, dude
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It's all those angry white male incels angered by society and rallied by the release of films like "The Joker."
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

What's the cause?

Well on one hand we have a massive increase in criminal gang activity.
And on the other hand we have several hundreds of "ex" ISIS fighters who now returned and are left unchallenged able to put their experience to use.
With high probability that those two mix together.

But that's just a guess,.
As the expert said: " we can only speculate", right.
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This is factually not due to immigrants or refugees, and yet tc and his ilk are gonna pretend it is because they can do nothing but shitpost in bad faith
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Borders are bad m'kay
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The only way to stop a bad guy with a bomb is a good guy with a bomb. This is actually positive news for Sweden. A wall of explosions along their border is the greatest deterrent to ISIS expansion.
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Autocraticus posted...

I never said immigrants caused the bombings. All I said was that Trump was correct about the terrorism when everyone was so quick to dismiss his claims. Like Sweden is some paradise.

Edit: fixed some spelling. Trump is a blowhard and blames immigrants for everything but I am stating that terrorism, foreign or domestic, is an issue.

Trump literally blamed it on immigration, and still doesn't address the fact he literally made up an incident that never occurred when he was spewing his usual bullshit.

So no, you don't get to claim that Trump was "correct".
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ASithLord7 posted...

This is factually not due to immigrants or refugees, and yet tc and his ilk are gonna pretend it is because they can do nothing but shitpost in bad faith

i never once mentioned any of those, but if that's the first thing you want to jump to, that's on you.

(unless you interpret the part where i mentioned ISIS to mean "refugees", but again, that's then on you)
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I see a lot of posters saying what the problem isnt, but not a lot of posters saying what the problem is.

gamer167 posted...

I see a lot of posters saying what the problem isnt, but not a lot of posters saying what the problem is.

well many of us dont want to get penalized.
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gamer167 posted...

I see a lot of posters saying what the problem isnt, but not a lot of posters saying what the problem is.

I see a lot of posters saying it's terrorism from refugees without any piece of evidence

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So why haven't they figured this out yet? The fuck do police do in Sweden?
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

What's the cause?

Economic anxiety
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ASithLord7 posted...

This is factually not due to immigrants or refugees, and yet tc and his ilk are gonna pretend it is because they can do nothing but shitpost in bad faith

Oh? Please, enlighten the rest of us, then. What's the cause?
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I wonder how those statistics correlate with each demographic living in that country.

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Azardea posted...

Oh? Please, enlighten the rest of us, then. What's the cause?

drug violence

It is criminal gangs that contains a majority of immigrants and kids to immigrants, which fight other criminal gangs and doing revenge attacks against the police.

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Azardea posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

This is factually not due to immigrants or refugees, and yet tc and his ilk are gonna pretend it is because they can do nothing but shitpost in bad faith

Oh? Please, enlighten the rest of us, then. What's the cause?

Guide posted...

Autocraticus posted...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-right-swedens-crime-immigration-problems/

Whoops right again.

You didn't even read the article. It doesn't link immigration to the rise in crime.

It lists an instances of foreign terrorism:

In 2010 it became the first Nordic country to be hit hit by an attack linked to Islamic terror. The two bombs which detonated in the capital killed only the bomber, Iraqi born Taimour Abdulwahab.

Since then one Isil inspired plot to make pressure bombs was disrupted by police and in 2016 a teaching assistant and a male student in a school in an immigrant area were killed in a racially motivated sword attack.

Then it gives us the figures, and the conclusion by its own officials.

But officials say that one of the biggest problems is not rising levels of crime but the perception of crime - with residents believing it is on the rise and immigrants bearing the brunt of the blame.

Studies by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention has found that the majority of those suspected of crimes were born in Sweden to two Swedish-born parents but people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes.

In addition, it doesn't make sense for these bombings to come from the immigrants: Most of them are attributed to hand grenades leftover from the Yugoslav Wars, being illegally imported from the Balkans.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/annu-en-handgranat-sprangs-i-malmo

So, thanks for helping to disprove your own bullshit.

also that one guy who wasn't hating on immigrants but I called out: my bad
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FreedomEtrtment posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

This is factually not due to immigrants or refugees, and yet tc and his ilk are gonna pretend it is because they can do nothing but shitpost in bad faith

iirc TC is Swedish himself although of course Sweden also has people who think that way.

Hes definitely posted racist far-right sentiments in the past
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Clearly native Sweds were waiting for the refugee's to arrive before using those grenades.

Luckily the internet detectives have figured out their scheme.

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Bloodychess posted...

Clearly native Sweds were waiting for the refugee's to arrive before using those grenades.

Luckily the internet detectives have figured out their scheme.

Its been a thing since quite a while before the refugee crisis, so. Try again?
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ASithLord7 posted...

FreedomEtrtment posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

This is factually not due to immigrants or refugees, and yet tc and his ilk are gonna pretend it is because they can do nothing but shitpost in bad faith

iirc TC is Swedish himself although of course Sweden also has people who think that way.

Hes definitely posted racist far-right sentiments in the past

i've posted stuff you don't agree with.
but "person that you disagree with" is not the same as "Auschwitz supporter"

i have a feeling that you're the kind of person that needs to be reminded about that now and then
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ROBANN_88 posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

FreedomEtrtment posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

This is factually not due to immigrants or refugees, and yet tc and his ilk are gonna pretend it is because they can do nothing but shitpost in bad faith

iirc TC is Swedish himself although of course Sweden also has people who think that way.

Hes definitely posted racist far-right sentiments in the past

i've posted stuff you don't agree with.
but "person that you disagree with" is not the same as "Auschwitz supporter"

i have a feeling that you're the kind of person that needs to be reminded about that now and then

You can be racist and far right without being a Nazi lmao. Weird deflection
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Foppe posted...

It is criminal gangs that contains a majority of immigrants and kids to immigrants, which fight other criminal gangs and doing revenge attacks against the police.

That is contrary to what several members here have been saying.

Is there anyone here who can clear this up?
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and again, i repeat my response to your earlier accusation:
i''ve never once mentioned anything about refugees or immigration, you jumped to that conclusion yourself. but if that's the first thing you want to jump to, that's on you.
if any of us is a racist here, it's you
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Foppe posted...

It is criminal gangs that contains a majority of immigrants and kids to immigrants, which fight other criminal gangs and doing revenge attacks against the police.

That is contrary to what several members here have been saying.

Is there anyone here who can clear this up?

It really is amazing how many of the right-wing posters on here think they know Sweden better than the people that actually live there or from around there.

Of course it doesn't help that you get situations like this Guardian article:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/04/sweden-bomb-attacks-reach-unprecedented-level-as-gangs-feud

Which only references "immigrants" with the sentence:

Almost a third have taken place in Malm, scene of a string of increasingly violent gun and bomb attacks that rightwing politicians have linked to the large flows of immigrants who arrived in in Sweden during the 2015 migration crisis.

And somehow that translates into this WQAD 8 article's title?
https://wqad.com/2019/11/05/bombings-reach-new-high-in-sweden-as-country-struggles-to-deal-with-immigrant-gang-violence/

Bombings reach new high in Sweden as country struggles to deal with immigrant gang violence

Like, what?
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ASithLord7 posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

FreedomEtrtment posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

This is factually not due to immigrants or refugees, and yet tc and his ilk are gonna pretend it is because they can do nothing but shitpost in bad faith

iirc TC is Swedish himself although of course Sweden also has people who think that way.

Hes definitely posted racist far-right sentiments in the past

i've posted stuff you don't agree with.
but "person that you disagree with" is not the same as "Auschwitz supporter"

i have a feeling that you're the kind of person that needs to be reminded about that now and then

You can be racist and far right without being a Nazi lmao. Weird deflection

here's why people aren't taking you and your ilk seriously these days.

so, i make a topic "a bunch of bombs, article doesn't say why"
and your first response is "how dare you racist blame this on immigrants and refugees?" when none of those were ever mentioned in the OP

am i the only one seeing this, or have i gone insane?
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You literally made Post 19 where you outright made it obvious what you believe is happening (with absolutely no proof to back it up) before he even made a single post in this topic lmao.

It has nothing to do with your original post, you made your beliefs known later in the topic.
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Bio1590 posted...

You literally made Post 19 where you outright made it obvious what you believe is happening (with absolutely no proof to back it up) before he even made a single post in this topic lmao.

It has nothing to do with your original post, you made your beliefs known later in the topic.

you mean the one where i said "criminal gangs and ISIS returnees"?

if you think that is analogous to "refugees and immigrants" that's your problem
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Yes because there's so many white ethnic Swedish people running off to join ISIS that you meant something other than refugees, immigrants, and their children when referring to "returning 'ex' ISIS fighters".
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Bio1590 posted...

Yes because there's so many white ethnic Swedish people running off to join ISIS that you meant something other than refugees, immigrants, and their children when referring to "returning 'ex' ISIS fighters".

Perhaps you should look up Michael Skrmo?

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Bio1590 posted...

Yes because there's so many white ethnic Swedish people running off to join ISIS that you meant something other than refugees, immigrants, and their children when referring to "returning 'ex' ISIS fighters".

Mikael Skrmo for one.
(though technically i think he was a Norwegian who lived in Sweden, i might be wrong on that)

are you really defending ISIS?
ISIS is just ISIS.
we're talking about bombings, and ISIS has a lot of experience with bombings the last few years, and we already know many of them have returned to Sweden (and other european nations)

you and that other guy are the ones conflating "Refugee" and ISIS to be one and the same here, which, to me, sounds like a very racist idea on your part
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