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averagejoel 09/01/19 9:54:25 PM #151:	marc55 posted... cardoor123 posted... Pathetic people who need to lay their hands on small children just to let them know that they're "right" How about you use some goddamn words to let them actually understand why you're right and why they're wrong? Hitting them really doesn't teach them anything at all. kids dont understand how dangerous running to play in the middle of the street is spanking is something they do understand and keep them safe until they are old enough to understand how dangerous the cars can be yeah, hitting your children is a fantastic way to ensure they stay safe --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926841077] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>cardoor123 posted...</cite> <quote>Pathetic people who need to lay their hands on small children just to let them know that they're "right" How about you use some goddamn words to let them actually understand why you're right and why they're wrong? Hitting them really doesn't teach them anything at all.</quote> kids dont understand how dangerous running to play in the middle of the street is spanking is something they do understand and keep them safe until they are old enough to understand how dangerous the cars can be</quote> yeah, hitting your children is a fantastic way to ensure they stay safe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 09/01/19 9:59:34 PM #152:	Yikes at all of the people here prioritizing their feelings (that hitting their kids is okay) over the facts (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926841239] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Yikes at all of the people here prioritizing their feelings (that hitting their kids is okay) over the facts (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/01/19 10:11:42 PM #153:	It's ineffective. Either the child would have learned through non-physical means, or they won't learn even if they're spanked. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926841661] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>It's ineffective. Either the child would have learned through non-physical means, or they won't learn even if they're spanked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 09/01/19 10:18:59 PM #154:	_Rinku_ posted... (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). Ah denial at it's finest --- Knowledge is having the right answer. Intelligence is asking the right question <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:926841907] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote> (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> Ah denial at it's finest</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 10:26:07 PM #155:	ChrisTaka posted... _Rinku_ posted... (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). Ah denial at it's finest what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926842162] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote> (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> Ah denial at it's finest</quote> what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 09/01/19 10:26:30 PM #156:	Studies on spanking don't take several important factors into account. I think the real issue with spanking is that parents rarely implement it properly into their disciplinary repertoire. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:926842172] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Studies on spanking don't take several important factors into account. I think the real issue with spanking is that parents rarely implement it properly into their disciplinary repertoire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/01/19 10:27:45 PM #157:	Vindris_SNH posted... Studies on spanking don't take several important factors into account. I think the real issue with spanking is that parents rarely implement it properly into their disciplinary repertoire. Ive seen parents in public spank their kids for peeing in their pants >__________> --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926842217] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Vindris_SNH posted... </cite> <quote>Studies on spanking don't take several important factors into account. I think the real issue with spanking is that parents rarely implement it properly into their disciplinary repertoire.</quote>Ive seen parents in public spank their kids for peeing in their pants >__________> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 10:37:50 PM #158:	Vindris_SNH posted... Studies on spanking don't take several important factors into account. I think the real issue with spanking is that parents rarely implement it properly into their disciplinary repertoire. enlighten me. how do you think hitting children should be implemented properly? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926842561] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>Studies on spanking don't take several important factors into account. I think the real issue with spanking is that parents rarely implement it properly into their disciplinary repertoire.</quote> enlighten me. how do you think hitting children should be implemented properly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HasaDiga 09/01/19 10:39:31 PM #159:	If your toddler won't stop acting up, just buckle him in his car seat and let him sit there until he chills out. <cite>HasaDiga posted [p:926842630] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>If your toddler won't stop acting up, just buckle him in his car seat and let him sit there until he chills out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 09/01/19 10:46:53 PM #160:	averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... _Rinku_ posted... (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). Ah denial at it's finest what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes? More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol --- Knowledge is having the right answer. Intelligence is asking the right question <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:926842913] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote> (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> Ah denial at it's finest</quote> what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes?</quote> More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/01/19 10:54:13 PM #161:	ChrisTaka posted... More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926843191] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote>such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 09/01/19 11:06:12 PM #162:	Trickfinger posted... Vindris_SNH posted... Studies on spanking don't take several important factors into account. I think the real issue with spanking is that parents rarely implement it properly into their disciplinary repertoire. Ive seen parents in public spank their kids for peeing in their pants >__________> Basically proving his point --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926843590] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>Vindris_SNH posted... </cite> <quote>Studies on spanking don't take several important factors into account. I think the real issue with spanking is that parents rarely implement it properly into their disciplinary repertoire.</quote>Ive seen parents in public spank their kids for peeing in their pants >__________> </quote> Basically proving his point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 09/01/19 11:06:55 PM #163:	Trickfinger posted... ChrisTaka posted... More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably --- Knowledge is having the right answer. Intelligence is asking the right question <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:926843612] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote>such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" </quote> I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 09/01/19 11:07:18 PM #164:	HasaDiga posted... If your toddler won't stop acting up, just buckle him in his car seat and let him sit there until he chills out. So restraining him while he screams bloody murder is ok but smacking him on the bottom isnt? --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926843626] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>HasaDiga posted...</cite> <quote>If your toddler won't stop acting up, just buckle him in his car seat and let him sit there until he chills out.</quote> So restraining him while he screams bloody murder is ok but smacking him on the bottom isnt?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 09/01/19 11:07:37 PM #165:	Hairistotle posted... StealthRock posted... Why do you refer to children as "it"? stay on topic Answer my question --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926843640] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Why do you refer to children as "it"?</quote> stay on topic</quote> Answer my question</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:08:41 PM #166:	ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... _Rinku_ posted... (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). Ah denial at it's finest what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes? More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926843666] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote> (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> Ah denial at it's finest</quote> what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes?</quote> More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote> I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 09/01/19 11:09:26 PM #167:	ChrisTaka posted... Trickfinger posted... ChrisTaka posted... More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably Exaggerating is the best way to get a point across. Might by where most of his issues stem from rather than mommy and daddy spanking him too much --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926843686] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote>such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" </quote> I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably</quote> Exaggerating is the best way to get a point across. Might by where most of his issues stem from rather than mommy and daddy spanking him too much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:09:27 PM #168:	ChrisTaka posted... Trickfinger posted... ChrisTaka posted... More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably that's because they aren't actually distinct behaviours. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926843687] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote>such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" </quote> I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably</quote> that's because they aren't actually distinct behaviours.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 09/01/19 11:10:27 PM #169:	averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... Trickfinger posted... ChrisTaka posted... More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably that's because they aren't actually distinct behaviours. So when you give your girlfriend a spanking, i guess you are at that point a woman beater Gotcha --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926843715] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote>such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" </quote> I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably</quote> that's because they aren't actually distinct behaviours.</quote> So when you give your girlfriend a spanking, i guess you are at that point a woman beater Gotcha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:11:52 PM #170:	StealthRock posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... Trickfinger posted... ChrisTaka posted... More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably that's because they aren't actually distinct behaviours. So when you give your girlfriend a spanking, i guess you are at that point a woman beater Gotcha spanking a consenting adult for kink purposes is very different from what we're talking about --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926843748] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote>such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" </quote> I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably</quote> that's because they aren't actually distinct behaviours.</quote> So when you give your girlfriend a spanking, i guess you are at that point a woman beater Gotcha</quote> spanking a consenting adult for kink purposes is very different from what we're talking about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/01/19 11:12:01 PM #171:	StealthRock posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... Trickfinger posted... ChrisTaka posted... More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably that's because they aren't actually distinct behaviours. So when you give your girlfriend a spanking, i guess you are at that point a woman beater Gotcha Being intentionally obtuse isn't helpful. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926843753] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote>such as? these child beaters have to do a better job than "well I'm pretty sure it works" </quote> I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably</quote> that's because they aren't actually distinct behaviours.</quote> So when you give your girlfriend a spanking, i guess you are at that point a woman beater Gotcha</quote> Being intentionally obtuse isn't helpful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/01/19 11:14:54 PM #172:	ChrisTaka posted... I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably imagine that. --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926843863] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>I've noticed that you've used "spanking" and "beating" interchangeably</quote>imagine that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:20:12 PM #173:	hey @ChrisTaka got any studies linking spanking to positive outcomes? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926844025] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>hey @ChrisTaka got any studies linking spanking to positive outcomes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 09/01/19 11:21:07 PM #174:	Duncanwii posted... No. If you respond to your child with violence they learn violence is an acceptable resort to events they dont like. This is a dumb argument Kids arent thinking this meta level when they are spanked --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:926844054] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>No. If you respond to your child with violence they learn violence is an acceptable resort to events they dont like.</quote> This is a dumb argument Kids arent thinking this meta level when they are spanked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/01/19 11:22:29 PM #175:	GoodOlJr posted... This is a dumb argument Kids arent thinking this meta level when they are spanked they're thinking "that hurt, I'm scared of feeling that pain again" --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926844108] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote>This is a dumb argument Kids arent thinking this meta level when they are spanked</quote>they're thinking "that hurt, I'm scared of feeling that pain again" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 09/01/19 11:24:10 PM #176:	averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... _Rinku_ posted... (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). Ah denial at it's finest what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes? More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/?amp=true --- Knowledge is having the right answer. Intelligence is asking the right question <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:926844158] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote> (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> Ah denial at it's finest</quote> what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes?</quote> More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote> I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study</quote> https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/?amp=true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/01/19 11:24:53 PM #177:	Trickfinger posted... Unsugarized_Foo posted... It has its place. Not something to abuse, but you just gotta have that hail mary option This is a human life were talking about Do you realize how much trauma beatings give to children.. Theres an obvious difference between a a slap on the bottom and literally bashing them up. Having said that, as a general rule spanking should be avoided. But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926844185] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote> It has its place. Not something to abuse, but you just gotta have that hail mary option</quote> This is a human life were talking about Do you realize how much trauma beatings give to children..</quote> Theres an obvious difference between a a slap on the bottom and literally bashing them up. Having said that, as a general rule spanking should be avoided. But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/01/19 11:27:29 PM #178:	Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926844272] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her.</quote>yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/01/19 11:28:30 PM #179:	ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... _Rinku_ posted... (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). Ah denial at it's finest what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes? More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/?amp=true That's not a study. That's an editorial with no citations or even anything to cite beyond a stray Bible verse. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926844308] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote> (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> Ah denial at it's finest</quote> what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes?</quote> More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote> I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study</quote> https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/?amp=true</quote> That's not a study. That's an editorial with no citations or even anything to cite beyond a stray Bible verse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 09/01/19 11:29:38 PM #180:	Christaka, you posted the wrong link. Joel asked for a scientific study, not a guy quoting bible verses. Easy mistake to make, I know --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:926844347] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Christaka, you posted the wrong link. Joel asked for a scientific study, not a guy quoting bible verses. Easy mistake to make, I know </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 09/01/19 11:31:09 PM #181:	Dragonblade01 posted... ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... _Rinku_ posted... (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). Ah denial at it's finest what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes? More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/?amp=true That's not a study. That's an editorial with no citations or even anything to cite beyond a stray Bible verse. look who wrote the article --- Knowledge is having the right answer. Intelligence is asking the right question <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:926844390] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote> (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> Ah denial at it's finest</quote> what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes?</quote> More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote> I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study</quote> https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/?amp=true</quote> That's not a study. That's an editorial with no citations or even anything to cite beyond a stray Bible verse.</quote> look who wrote the article</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/01/19 11:31:33 PM #182:	Poll tied up. --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926844402] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Poll tied up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:32:16 PM #183:	ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... ChrisTaka posted... _Rinku_ posted... (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes). Ah denial at it's finest what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes? More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/?amp=true that is not a study, and it contains no links to any studies. that is an article in Time Magazine (which is not an academic journal). it is written by a minister who works for Focus On The Family. wikipedia has this to say about Focus on the Family: Focus on the Family (FOTF or FotF) is an American Christian conservative organization founded in 1977 in Southern California by psychologist James Dobson, based in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[3] It is active in promoting socially conservative views on public policy. Focus on the Family is one of a number of evangelical parachurch organizations that rose to prominence in the 1980s. As of the 2017 tax filing year, Focus on the Family declared itself to be a church.[4] try again please. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926844419] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote> (that hitting kids basically has no positive outcomes).</quote> Ah denial at it's finest</quote> what evidence do you have that there are positive outcomes?</quote> More than there is saying it has no postive outcomes lol</quote> I have read several peer-reviewed studies on the subject and skimmed several more. I have come across nothing that associates any positive outcomes with spanking. but I am eager to learn: link me to a study</quote> https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/?amp=true</quote> that is not a study, and it contains no links to any studies. that is an article in Time Magazine (which is not an academic journal). it is written by a minister who works for Focus On The Family. wikipedia has this to say about Focus on the Family: <quote>Focus on the Family (FOTF or FotF) is an American Christian conservative organization founded in 1977 in Southern California by psychologist James Dobson, based in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[3] It is active in promoting socially conservative views on public policy. Focus on the Family is one of a number of evangelical parachurch organizations that rose to prominence in the 1980s. As of the 2017 tax filing year, Focus on the Family declared itself to be a church.[4]</quote> try again please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/01/19 11:33:07 PM #184:	Trickfinger posted... Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926844456] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her.</quote>yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. </quote> Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:34:57 PM #185:	Rika_Furude posted... Trickfinger posted... Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the same outcomes --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926844497] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her.</quote>yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. </quote> Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles</quote> "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the same outcomes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/01/19 11:35:12 PM #186:	ChrisTaka posted... look who wrote the article I'm not interested in arguments from authority unless they come with actual data. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926844508] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>look who wrote the article</quote> I'm not interested in arguments from authority unless they come with actual data.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/01/19 11:36:18 PM #187:	averagejoel posted... Rika_Furude posted... Trickfinger posted... Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt + bruising --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926844541] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. </quote>yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. </quote> Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles </quote> "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes</quote> Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt + bruising</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:37:19 PM #188:	Dragonblade01 posted... ChrisTaka posted... look who wrote the article I'm not interested in arguments from authority unless they come with actual data. it's not even an argument from authority. he's a minister for an "American Christian conservative organization" that recently declared itself to be a church --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926844565] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>look who wrote the article</quote> I'm not interested in arguments from authority unless they come with actual data.</quote> it's not even an argument from authority. he's a minister for an "American Christian conservative organization" that recently declared itself to be a church</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 09/01/19 11:37:39 PM #189:	Wow, are you guys actually still screaming that facts don't matter in the face of your feelings that it's okay to hit your kids? Yikes. Not a very rational train of thought. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926844576] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Wow, are you guys actually still screaming that facts don't matter in the face of your feelings that it's okay to hit your kids? Yikes. Not a very rational train of thought.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/01/19 11:38:11 PM #190:	Rika_Furude posted... averagejoel posted... Rika_Furude posted... Trickfinger posted... Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps with a hand cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt Physical punishment is a gradient in terms of severity. Do you have a metric for determining when the level of severity goes beyond what's supposedly reasonable? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926844596] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. </quote>yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. </quote> Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles </quote> "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes</quote> Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps with a hand cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt</quote> Physical punishment is a gradient in terms of severity. Do you have a metric for determining when the level of severity goes beyond what's supposedly reasonable?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:38:15 PM #191:	Rika_Furude posted... averagejoel posted... Rika_Furude posted... Trickfinger posted... Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt + bruising the adults are talking about data here. keep up. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926844598] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. </quote>yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. </quote> Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles </quote> "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes</quote> Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt + bruising</quote> the adults are talking about data here. keep up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HasaDiga 09/01/19 11:39:21 PM #192:	StealthRock posted... HasaDiga posted... If your toddler won't stop acting up, just buckle him in his car seat and let him sit there until he chills out. So restraining him while he screams bloody murder is ok but smacking him on the bottom isnt? I didn't say it isn't okay. My toddler doesn't shed a tear if you bust his butt. Tell him no about something, though.... The thing is, when he gets pissed....he likes to headbutt everything. If he headbutts something soft like a pillow, he isn't satisfied and will instead headbutt the hardwood floor. This is typically when he's tired and fighting sleep. Put him in the carseat and he can't headbutt stuff and he has to chill out. When he does, he calmly says "Daddy, I want out." and I unbuckle him. <cite>HasaDiga posted [p:926844628] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>HasaDiga posted...</cite> <quote>If your toddler won't stop acting up, just buckle him in his car seat and let him sit there until he chills out.</quote> So restraining him while he screams bloody murder is ok but smacking him on the bottom isnt?</quote> I didn't say it isn't okay. My toddler doesn't shed a tear if you bust his butt. Tell him no about something, though.... The thing is, when he gets pissed....he likes to headbutt everything. If he headbutts something soft like a pillow, he isn't satisfied and will instead headbutt the hardwood floor. This is typically when he's tired and fighting sleep. Put him in the carseat and he can't headbutt stuff and he has to chill out. When he does, he calmly says "Daddy, I want out." and I unbuckle him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/01/19 11:43:07 PM #193:	averagejoel posted... Rika_Furude posted... averagejoel posted... Rika_Furude posted... Trickfinger posted... Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt + bruising the adults are talking about data here. keep up. Why are you upset and anti-discussion? Are you a book burner as well? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926844746] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. </quote>yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. </quote> Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles </quote> "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes </quote> Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt + bruising</quote> the adults are talking about data here. keep up.</quote> Why are you upset and anti-discussion? Are you a book burner as well?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/01/19 11:43:15 PM #194:	Rika_Furude posted... Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926844752] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles</quote> Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/01/19 11:43:53 PM #195:	Trickfinger posted... Rika_Furude posted... Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. What are you trying to say? Use words please --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926844780] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles</quote> Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her.</quote> </quote> What are you trying to say? Use words please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/01/19 11:44:16 PM #196:	more like, what are you trying to say. --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926844794] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>more like, what are you trying to say. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:45:32 PM #197:	Rika_Furude posted... averagejoel posted... Rika_Furude posted... averagejoel posted... Rika_Furude posted... Trickfinger posted... Rika_Furude posted... But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt + bruising the adults are talking about data here. keep up. Why are you upset and anti-discussion? Are you a book burner as well? I'm not upset, and I'm also not anti-discussion. you're talking about individual cases. I'm talking about data. fundamentally different conversations. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926844833] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote> But it can still be used in extreme circumstances. Nothing worse than shitty mothers at the shopping centre dragging their screaming shits around saying "no computer for you tonight" while they ignore her. </quote>yeah if you dont beat your kids, you're a toothless doormat. sorry but a kid crying doesnt exactly warrant a beating in my right mind. </quote> Feelings dont exactly warrant hyperboles </quote> "spanking" and "beating" are not two distinct behaviours, and have been linked to the sme outcomes </quote> Wouldnt that depend on the severity of the spanking? A few quick slaps cant be as harmful as say, 20 with a belt + bruising</quote> the adults are talking about data here. keep up.</quote> Why are you upset and anti-discussion? Are you a book burner as well?</quote> I'm not upset, and I'm also not anti-discussion. you're talking about individual cases. I'm talking about data. fundamentally different conversations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 09/01/19 11:53:02 PM #198:	averagejoel posted... wikipedia has this to say about Focus on the Family: Focus on the Family (FOTF or FotF) is an American Christian conservative organization founded in 1977 in Southern California by psychologist James Dobson, based in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[3] It is active in promoting socially conservative views on public policy. Focus on the Family is one of a number of evangelical parachurch organizations that rose to prominence in the 1980s. As of the 2017 tax filing year, Focus on the Family declared itself to be a church.[4] try again please. How are you gonna call me out for faulty info then reference Wikipedia --- Knowledge is having the right answer. Intelligence is asking the right question <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:926845084] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>wikipedia has this to say about Focus on the Family: <quote>Focus on the Family (FOTF or FotF) is an American Christian conservative organization founded in 1977 in Southern California by psychologist James Dobson, based in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[3] It is active in promoting socially conservative views on public policy. Focus on the Family is one of a number of evangelical parachurch organizations that rose to prominence in the 1980s. As of the 2017 tax filing year, Focus on the Family declared itself to be a church.[4]</quote> try again please.</quote> How are you gonna call me out for faulty info then reference Wikipedia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/01/19 11:56:52 PM #199:	ChrisTaka posted... averagejoel posted... wikipedia has this to say about Focus on the Family: Focus on the Family (FOTF or FotF) is an American Christian conservative organization founded in 1977 in Southern California by psychologist James Dobson, based in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[3] It is active in promoting socially conservative views on public policy. Focus on the Family is one of a number of evangelical parachurch organizations that rose to prominence in the 1980s. As of the 2017 tax filing year, Focus on the Family declared itself to be a church.[4] try again please. How are you gonna call me out for faulty info then reference Wikipedia I was giving (further) reason not to trust your information. still waiting on a study by the way. feel free to link to an article if it contains a study too (I've linked one elsewhere in the topic and will do so again if need be) --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926845191] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>wikipedia has this to say about Focus on the Family: <quote>Focus on the Family (FOTF or FotF) is an American Christian conservative organization founded in 1977 in Southern California by psychologist James Dobson, based in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[3] It is active in promoting socially conservative views on public policy. Focus on the Family is one of a number of evangelical parachurch organizations that rose to prominence in the 1980s. As of the 2017 tax filing year, Focus on the Family declared itself to be a church.[4]</quote> try again please.</quote> How are you gonna call me out for faulty info then reference Wikipedia</quote> I was giving (further) reason not to trust your information. still waiting on a study by the way. feel free to link to an article if it contains a study too (I've linked one elsewhere in the topic and will do so again if need be)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 09/01/19 11:57:57 PM #200:	I didn't enjoy it as a child. My Dad used his belt <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:926845219] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>I didn't enjoy it as a child. My Dad used his belt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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