Current Events > How do you identify politically? (No judgement zone)

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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=93.9&d=87.8&g=93.1&s=91.4
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Proud Conservative
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Gafemage posted...

lol
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well I did that test and got this https://files.catbox.moe/w066pl.png

I can't help but feel like some questions were worded in an ambiguous way considering the options available to choose from. Like for example the very first one:

Oppression by corporations is more of a concern than oppression by governments.

Let's say you think the two are equal? Do you pick strongly disagree? Or does picking strongly disagree mean you think oppression by governments is more of a concern than by corporations?
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Tbh. I never really cared enough to try and find out what I actually am. I just call myself a moderate (in the middle but right leaning).

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Does anybody have more of these political tests? The Economic Axis has me WAY more Socialist than I was expecting to be but everything else seemed about right.
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AlephZero posted...

fiscally liberal and socially conservative

literally the opposite

every compass test I take puts me very, very slightly up and to the left from the centre. To the point where I'm "centrist" but moving towards the liberal democracy zone
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I did that test and got Classical Liberalism. I'm unsure about that tbh

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=38.4&d=50.5&g=65.0&s=70.1

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Lean left. I believe in damn near all the ideals presented to the public, don't think most of it is realistic at the unreasonable rate people are pushing for it. Only time I usually agree with conservatives is on gun rights and abortions past 3 months in.
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For: Limited or fixed monetary supply, polycentric governance, competitive markets, private property or voluntary collectivization, equal opportunity.

Against: war, government tyranny, corporate tyranny, social violence.

Everything else is up for debate.
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Anyone who claims to be "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" is a fucking liar who just wants to appear that they have the right opinions on social issues

Anyways, communist.

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radical centrist

Libertarian Socialist.

I was a huge Noam Chomsky reader in high school.

QueenCarly posted...

Anyone who claims to be "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" is a fucking liar who just wants to appear that they have the right opinions on social issues

Elaborate, please.

Moderate, very pro free speech
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QueenCarly posted...

Anyone who claims to be "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" is a fucking liar who just wants to appear that they have the right opinions on social issues

Anyways, communist.

Had to have a stupid post sneak in here somewhere. Surprised it took this long.
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let's not devolve into a CE argument now. we made it past 100 posts without one
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Social liberalism according to that site or center left. So it was as I said.
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@QueenCarly posted...

Anyone who claims to be "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" is a fucking liar who just wants to appear that they have the right opinions on social issues

Anyways, communist.

By fiscally conservative I mean operating a budget that remains in surplus, however I am:

- Pro abortion
- Pro gay marriage
- Pro greener options
- Pro universal health care

etc etc, all those "social issues", generally I am on the liberal side.

You might ask how that's possible, and I am personally for higher taxes to pay for the above. I'm Australian, and all of the above is currently operating. Currently I earn $85,000AUD before tax per year and pay $24,892AUD in taxes per year.
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I'm a liberal for sure, but I can usually reach some level of mutual understanding with moderate Republicans. However, I have zero tolerance whatsoever for using religion to justify legislation or to define morality in other people. I will immediately think you're an idiot and an asshole.

Leftist of some sort, last test I took said libertarian socialist

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TreyFlowers posted...

- Pro abortion
- Pro gay marriage
- Pro greener options
- Pro universal health care

Of those, only last necessitates moving towards fiscally liberal, and even then only if there's a mass failure of altruism for some reason.

Re: defining center left, I get -2.5 left/right these days when I used to be closer to +1. I've always been around -8 through -10 on the authoritarian part of the political compass.
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I've always been placed at Center Right.

But usually I'll side with what benefits me personally the most.
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Realistically? An anarchist. However, I know it's not logically possible in a large society. I tend to lean center left in terms of actual 2019 politics though.
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pres_madagascar posted...

Realistically? An anarchist. However, I know it's not logically possible in a large society.

That's why you start with "radical" concepts such as property rights and body autonomy, and throw anarchy on top of that.

Questionmarktarius posted...

TreyFlowers posted...

- Pro abortion
- Pro gay marriage
- Pro greener options
- Pro universal health care

Of those, only last necessitates moving towards fiscally liberal, and even then only if there's a mass failure of altruism for some reason.

Altruism doesn't exist
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TreyFlowers posted...

Altruism doesn't exist

Then altruism-by-proxy is a greater lie.

I think we're starting to wander into "judgement" here. TC?

__aCEr__ posted...

Does anybody have more of these political tests? The Economic Axis has me WAY more Socialist than I was expecting to be but everything else seemed about right.

This is another more in-depth test
https://www.politiscales.net/
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this is just a topic to say what kinda politics you believe in and not to argue about why someone else's politics are wrong. if you wanna do that then just make your own topic
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ThyCorndog posted...

this is just a topic to say what kinda politics you believe in and not to argue about why someone else's politics are wrong. if you wanna do that then just make your own topic

It's CE, so there's half of dozen been made already between the quoted post and this one.

left
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Classical/European liberal, American Libertarian. Much more concerned with authoritarianism and very disillusioned with many self-described capitalists who actually just want corporatism. I only want government intervention to help those worst off (something like a negative income tax). I certainly don't want things like regulatory capture, IP laws, or anything else designed to create artificial scarcity and distort markets in favor of corporations.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Elaborate, please.
In my experience, "fiscally conservative and socially liberal" is just an anarcho-capitalist in denial.

Outside of the person above who mentioned paying higher taxes and having a budget surplus

What that tends to mean is "x marginalized group should get help, but we should cut all funding to programs that help them because NIMBY/Fuck them I got mine/whatever myopic reason they have"

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Left
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QueenCarly posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Elaborate, please.
In my experience, "fiscally conservative and socially liberal" is just an anarcho-capitalist in denial.

Outside of the person above who mentioned paying higher taxes and having a budget surplus

What that tends to mean is "x marginalized group should get help, but we should cut all funding to programs that help them because NIMBY/Fuck them I got mine/whatever myopic reason they have"

Huh figured it was x groups deserves rights but fuck helping them financially just give them the same rights and opportunities. But ive never looked onto it.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

Realistically? An anarchist. However, I know it's not logically possible in a large society.

That's why you start with "radical" concepts such as property rights and body autonomy, and throw anarchy on top of that.

Personal liberty is a huge deal to me, but I don't identify with libertarians in any real way except that point.

I pretty much hate government as a concept, however also acknowledge that it's a necessary thing in a major society.

I subscribe to the anthropological belief that humans are best in smaller communities the way Amazon tribes still are today. Everyone comes together to help everyone.
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Left-leaning centrist on the traditional left-right paradigm, and with mild libertarian leanings on the compass.



I tend to fall in the middle on most things because my views balance each out out.


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center-left, my values probably match up the most with someone like Biden

although I'm pretty disillusioned with the current democratic party, it's gone too far left for me on social issues
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Liberal, but definitely not in the SJW camp.
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Socially liberal, fiscally liberal but less so?
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Democratic Left.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

QueenCarly posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Elaborate, please.
In my experience, "fiscally conservative and socially liberal" is just an anarcho-capitalist in denial.

Outside of the person above who mentioned paying higher taxes and having a budget surplus

What that tends to mean is "x marginalized group should get help, but we should cut all funding to programs that help them because NIMBY/Fuck them I got mine/whatever myopic reason they have"

Huh figured it was x groups deserves rights but fuck helping them financially just give them the same rights and opportunities. But ive never looked onto it.

This is me. Discrimination based on race is still an issue, but its just pissing funds away to try and throw money at issues like that when there are veterans and homeless people that immediately, directly, and exponentially benefit from funding.
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I find that if we're going into the weeds of my philosophy towards life and politics then "social libertarian" would be an apt description, I suppose.

A political doctrine that promotes decentralized collectivism as a means of maximizing individual freedom and minimizing the power of the state and of concentrated private wealth.


While I abhor the privatization of resources and utilities and concentration of wealth I tend to regard large government entities with suspicion.

However if we look at the politicians I've voted for and the sort of folks I support in reality, I typically feel that "social democrat" or the more vague and catch-all term "leftist" apply to me rather well.
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