Poll of the Day > Avengers: Endgame must put families in a weird position. *spoilers*

(+) Yeah! (+)

The snap happens. Lots of people lose spouses and children. sad times.

Those who remain go out, and build new relationships. Perhaps they get married, have kids, etc.

5 years pass.

Suddenly, out of nowhere, everyone gets their original spouses/children back. For these people, they may go back to their wives and husbands, only to find they have a new spouse and a new family. Meanwhile, everyone has to think about how to handle the return of their former spouse. It is a messy situation for everyone.
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Hahaha, excellent point.

I was actually very disappointed that they didn't spend even 5 minutes of the movie showing the longterm effects of the Snap somehow. They had that graveyard scene....and that was kinda nice. But it wasn't enough.

I was really hoping for some scene where there were POSITIVE aspects pointed out. Like a TV in the background with a news reporter saying, "Lowest pollution levels ever recorded!" or "People in China able to see the stars for the first time in 100 years." You know? "Rainforests flourishing, and crop harvests bigger than ever before." "Global hunger crisis averted for the first time in recorded history".

I mean, as much as people hated Thanos....it would have been interesting if maybe someone had the balls to point out, "Hey....this is...actually...kinda......nice."
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The whole snapback is just a clusterfuck of questions.

Are they snapped back to their original location? As in, in the middle of the air if they were snapped out of a plane or helicopter?

Everyone is five years younger than they should be, so itll cause some issues with classmates, coworkers, friends, families, all being older.

These people that werent snapped would likely have emotional and psychological trauma from losing their friends and families and just seeing people dust away.

The world is also changed. Houses abandoned, plumbing and power grids deteriorated, food and goods production factories and farms suffering from loss of experienced and knowledgeable workers, etc. and suddenly, massive amounts of population to now care for and feed.

i doubt they will address any of this

More then that did you see the destruction in the cities etc from planes crashing etc, also less food would have been made/prepared available because the population of earth was 50% of what it used to be.

If you just suddenly double the population, there is not going to be resources for everyone, even in industiral/civilized areas (let alone in less developed areas.

What happened if someone was pregnant and was snapped, was the baby snapped with them....or did the baby get left behind, or sometimes, the baby just went poof. If the baby went poof, how was it returned?

Age could also be a HUGE issue for the elderly. Get snapped when your in your 90's and your wife doesn't get snapped. Come back and wife is dead, and your all alone.

But it's a movie, they don't really go into any of that.
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wolfy42 posted...

More then that did you see the destruction in the cities etc from planes crashing etc, also less food would have been made/prepared available because the population of earth was 50% of what it used to be.

If you just suddenly double the population, there is not going to be resources for everyone, even in industiral/civilized areas (let alone in less developed areas.

What happened if someone was pregnant and was snapped, was the baby snapped with them....or did the baby get left behind, or sometimes, the baby just went poof. If the baby went poof, how was it returned?

Age could also be a HUGE issue for the elderly. Get snapped when your in your 90's and your wife doesn't get snapped. Come back and wife is dead, and your all alone.

But it's a movie, they don't really go into any of that.

Quality points.

Saw some similar questions here

https://www.cracked.com/article_26367_4-huge-secret-problems-with-avengers-endgames-ending.html

Definitely gets dark with so many questions left unanswered
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wolfy42 posted...

If you just suddenly double the population, there is not going to be resources for everyone, even in industiral/civilized areas (let alone in less developed areas.

This is why the Terracotta Army is a pretty bad wonder.

I just assume through infinity gauntlet magic the third snap also fixed any of the details that could be wrong.
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DrPrimemaster posted...

I just assume through infinity gauntlet magic the third snap also fixed any of the details that could be wrong.

It could have just returned everything to the point in time immediately before Thanos snapped everyone away. Then none of these questions here would have even been an issue.


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Bugmeat posted...

DrPrimemaster posted...

I just assume through infinity gauntlet magic the third snap also fixed any of the details that could be wrong.

It could have just returned everything to the point in time immediately before Thanos snapped everyone away. Then none of these questions here would have even been an issue.

I was wondering if thats what happened...
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What happens to people on planes or ships or otherwise comprising positions when they got snapped? Do they rematerialize only to die another horrible death immediately?
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GreenKnight127 posted...

I was really hoping for some scene where there were POSITIVE aspects pointed out. Like a TV in the background with a news reporter saying, "Lowest pollution levels ever recorded!" or "People in China able to see the stars for the first time in 100 years." You know? "Rainforests flourishing, and crop harvests bigger than ever before." "Global hunger crisis averted for the first time in recorded history".

They did do that. The scene where cap goes and talks to Widow in the headquarters he's like, 'there are whales in the hudson now less polution n shit' and then she tells him to fuck off
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I'm sure they thought of like, bring everybody back but like make em safe if they're in a plane or osmething.

Now imagine a couple was asleep and now some dude is in bed with another girl and his old gf just flashes back while they're doing the deed
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I would honestly watch this is us type series about families surviving post endgame. Readjusting to their lives.

Older siblings becoming younger siblings (my big brother is in HS, I graduated college!!)

A wife survives and she moves on, 5 years later her wife comes back...
But for her, its been a second.

A trio of best friends. Guy 1 is in love with girl. Girl is engaged to Guy 2. Guy 2 is snapped away, and the others are married when he comes back; and she still loves both!? (Or the other 2 are snapped away and fall into love with each other as Guy 2 is older and cant really hang out anymore?)

People coming back to discover someone died of natural causes (or an accident not involving thanos) while they were gone??
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It would basically have some of the same thing that other show had. Where the plane disappears and reappears years later. And like shot happened. According to the trailers, someone died. Also, one twin was in the plane, but the other wasnt. So, is the twins are different ages...
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LinkPizza posted...

It would basically have some of the same thing that other show had. Where the plane disappears and reappears years later. And like shot happened. According to the trailers, someone died. Also, one twin was in the plane, but the other wasnt. So, is the twins are different ages...

yeh, but that was all scifi about something like they were supposed to do like stop crimes and stuff. idk, I watched the first couple episodes then forgot about it.
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darcandkharg31 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

It would basically have some of the same thing that other show had. Where the plane disappears and reappears years later. And like shot happened. According to the trailers, someone died. Also, one twin was in the plane, but the other wasnt. So, is the twins are different ages...

yeh, but that was all scifi about something like they were supposed to do like stop crimes and stuff. idk, I watched the first couple episodes then forgot about it.

Idk. I havent seen the show yet. I just saw the trailers. But thought that was kind of similar...
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LinkPizza posted...

Idk. I havent seen the show yet. I just saw the trailers. But thought that was kind of similar...

oh yeah it kinda is, like when the main chick comes back her fiance is married to her best friend or something some other stuff like that.

Edit: Manifest, just looked it up
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I mean really the 5 year thing is similar to someone being in a coma, I mean if someone's wife is in a coma for 5 years he might move on since the person might never wake up. If she wakes up 5 years later, who knows what world she will find.

Obviously this is a bigger deal that affects a lot more poeple, but in rare circumstances you can find similar things.

reminds me of flight of the navigator only that happened to one kid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVebPEYiq2o" data-time="
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So Castaway but on a global scale?
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I suspect the snapback did more damage to the universe than the snap did originally.

Thinking about just on Earth, half of the workforce haven't shown up to their jobs in 5 years and have been fired. Half of renters haven't paid their rent in 5 years and new people now occupy their apartment. Homes that were left abandoned were likely seized and resold. Bank accounts closed. Any other property they owned has been looted.

The purpose of the snap was to re-balance the demand for limited resources. The world economy would have shifted to a high availability / low demand state. Suddenly demand has doubled while the infrastructure is no longer there to support that level of demand. Most of the people brought back will starve because of poverty and the low amount of stockpiled food.

Also people were dusted. The elements that made up their body went back into the ecosystem. What is getting destroyed to reclaim them?

Now spread this out on a galactic scale. Think it's a problem if someone was in a plane and returns to the same altitude, what about interstellar travel?
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_AdjI_ posted...

wolfy42 posted...

If you just suddenly double the population, there is not going to be resources for everyone, even in industiral/civilized areas (let alone in less developed areas.

This is why the Terracotta Army is a pretty bad wonder.

Not if you planned on getting it for early city conquests
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My friend and I briefly discussed this and felt five years was simply too long of a gap. A year at most mighta been more appropriate to give the team enough time to figure out what to do, gather allies and material, build what they need to build, etc.

Personally I think several months mighta been more appropriate but of course the producers just had to raise the stakes by introducing there are personal stakes at hand so the team couldn't simply undo everything or return it to how it was prior.

Bugmeat posted...

It could have just returned everything to the point in time immediately before Thanos snapped everyone away. Then none of these questions here would have even been an issue.

To add to my comment above. My friend and I both felt it wouldn't be right either to unmake all the kids born in those five years and undo the lives of people, especially the ones who were able to move on. That being said, it's like what I mentioned above, five years was simply too long of a gap.
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InfestedAdam posted...

Bugmeat posted...

It could have just returned everything to the point in time immediately before Thanos snapped everyone away. Then none of these questions here would have even been an issue.

To add to my comment above. My friend and I both felt it wouldn't be right either to unmake all the kids born in those five years and undo the lives of people, especially the ones who were able to move on. That being said, it's like what I mentioned above, five years was simply too long of a gap.

Why not, though? I mean, they could return it to normal prior to the snap and erase memories... It would probably be the best solution, tbh...

Also, why did he choose randomly? I mean, he could have done whole families and such... And still do random families...
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Interestingly enough, I would propose that the snap back could possible create enough tension/lack of resources etc, to cause world war 3, even with super heroes around etc, tons of nukes being launched could wipe out WAY more people then the original snap.

The world/humanity, used to have a way to deal with over-population. War.

The problem in this case is technology is advanced enough that a war to solve the problem, could do waaay more damage then just reduce the population.

Yeah, the US etc might be able to handle things fairly well, but how about EVERY country with nukes? Not one of them is gonna go off the railes when half their population comes back. Not to mention possible regime changes when a dictator who got snapped suddenly re-appears and a new dictator is already there etc.

Actually a TV series post snap back would be pretty freaking awesome even if it didn't have super heroes in it. Watching the super heroes try and prevent a world wide melt down afterwards though....would be epic.
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LinkPizza posted...

Why not, though? I mean, they could return it to normal prior to the snap and erase memories... It would probably be the best solution, tbh...

I don't have an answer for that but I don't agree just because people won't remember the five years doesn't mean it isn't wrong. Thanos revised plan of instead wiping out the entire universe and remaking can still be seen as wrong even if the new lives that spring up will not remember the blood and bones that which it was built on top of.
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InfestedAdam posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Why not, though? I mean, they could return it to normal prior to the snap and erase memories... It would probably be the best solution, tbh...

I don't have an answer for that but I don't agree just because people won't remember the five years doesn't mean it isn't wrong. Thanos revised plan of instead wiping out the entire universe and remaking can still be seen as wrong even if the new lives that spring up will not remember the blood and bones that which it was built on top of.

If you want to get technical, most of those new people and most of those new relationships weren't even supposed to exist.
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InfestedAdam posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Why not, though? I mean, they could return it to normal prior to the snap and erase memories... It would probably be the best solution, tbh...

I don't have an answer for that but I don't agree just because people won't remember the five years doesn't mean it isn't wrong. Thanos revised plan of instead wiping out the entire universe and remaking can still be seen as wrong even if the new lives that spring up will not remember the blood and bones that which it was built on top of.

I dont see it as wrong because half of the universe should have never been wiped away. As EvilMegas said, lots of those relationships and new people shouldnt have existed. Going back in time & wiping away the memories makes it so it didnt even ever happen. The only people who would know are the people they want to know. Probably just shield and superheroes. Its better than just snapping everyone back and hoping for the best. The next best solution would be to leave everyone snapped and erase the memories of them. Thats comes with its own problems. But I dont see any problem with my first idea. Except for maybe being a little too boring since it just makes the last 5+ years not happen. Which would be best for the world...

Edit: The plan Thanos had just becomes a big what if...

Edit 2: They could also do a person by person basis. But not only would that take forever, that becomes unfair for a lot of people...
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I'm sure Ironman would've loved the idea of wiping his seed from the earth.
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Imagine the people who came back to find their loved one turned into an alcoholic from the depression/trauma of watching some one turn to dust. Or finding out they killed themself.
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MisterPengy posted...

Imagine the people who came back to find their loved one turned into an alcoholic from the depression/trauma of watching some one turn to dust. Or finding out they killed themself.

I was wondering about that. The suicides...
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LinkPizza posted...

MisterPengy posted...

Imagine the people who came back to find their loved one turned into an alcoholic from the depression/trauma of watching some one turn to dust. Or finding out they killed themself.

I was wondering about that. The suicides...

Yeah. I liked the movie, but it really glossed over just how traumatic an event like this would be, even if "reversed"

Maybe the next MCU movies will touch on it...probably not.
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MisterPengy posted...

Maybe the next MCU movies will touch on it...probably not.

I have doubts. Spider-Man: Far From Home seems too cheery/normal.
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